OT - video compression HEVC woo cool!

2017-02-14 Thread James Hale via use-livecode
Recently in a discussion on the data grid someone mentioned Trevor's DG 
presentations at runrev09. Grabbing my revLive09 disks I loaded up the relevant 
DVD.
However I am not a great fan of DVDs these days and thought I would copy onto 
my hard disk. I also am not that keen on the Mac DVD player so I thought I 
would rip and compress. The DVD was single sided so took about 4.3GB.
I decided to use Handbrake which I had recently modified to use the 10 bit x265 
(HEVC) libraries. I processed the three presentations on the disk and ended up 
with three files totaling 480MB. The settings I used were not very aggressive 
as I used my std settings for bd's. I know x265 is good. I also know x264 would 
have done a passable job but not of the same order.
In short, if you have a need to compress/convert video to h264 I would consider 
trying h265. Of course it depends on your use but it really is impressive.
Btw I use the 10bit versions of the binaries as they seem to offer a better 
looking image at the same settings as 8bit compressions even when the source is 
8bit.
For those on the Mac, "iffMpeg" is a really nice interface for FFMPEG. One of 
the sites providing precompiled Mac binaries of FFMPEG consented to compiling a 
10 bit x264/265 binary as well. So either handbrake (free) or iffmpeg (not 
free) are really great choices to get great compression with little loss of 
quality.

James

BTW re the quality. The files I rip to place as back ups on my server I view on 
a 55" HD screen. Trust me, I would know if the x265s were not as good as an 
x264 version. The size reduction x264->x265 is one quarter to one third. E.g 
x264 at 3.7GB -> x265 910bit) at 800MB I have yet to pick a difference 
visually. You can of course compress more aggressively but then you would 
notice.

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Re: automating enabling of plugin settings on new versions

2017-02-14 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Instructions are in the bug report, but basically you make a copy of the 
plugin, do whatever you want with it, and put it in your user extensions 
folder. It will override the LC copy.


If you've installed for "this user" then that's who it will apply to. If 
you installed for everyone I assume the change will apply to all users. I 
always install for just me so that's what I'm familiar with.


If LC updates their plugin then you'd have to replace your copy, but as 
they promised me in the report, they'll tell us if that happens.


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On February 14, 2017 6:57:10 PM "Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode" 
 wrote:



On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 4:12 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:



I did that and it works fine. The user plugins folder is shared with all
copies of LC you have installed. I put my own copy in there some months ago
after submitting the bug report.



But as I understand, that is "incorrect" behavior--preferences should be by
user, not shared.

And I'm not sure about doing it from the finder, but in general on unix,if
you move (mv) or copy (cp) folder b to a and there si already a folder a/b,
young  up with a/b/b rather than replacing b.


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Re: automating enabling of plugin settings on new versions

2017-02-14 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 4:12 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

>
> I did that and it works fine. The user plugins folder is shared with all
> copies of LC you have installed. I put my own copy in there some months ago
> after submitting the bug report.
>

But as I understand, that is "incorrect" behavior--preferences should be by
user, not shared.

And I'm not sure about doing it from the finder, but in general on unix,if
you move (mv) or copy (cp) folder b to a and there si already a folder a/b,
young  up with a/b/b rather than replacing b.


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Re: automating enabling of plugin settings on new versions

2017-02-14 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

On 2/14/17 4:46 PM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote:

Copying plugins on each release opens its own can of worms.


I did that and it works fine. The user plugins folder is shared with all 
copies of LC you have installed. I put my own copy in there some months 
ago after submitting the bug report.


If you don't have a user plugins folder, create one in the My Livecode 
folder. (Whoever named that, I'll find them some day.)


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Re: Deleting stacks on the fly

2017-02-14 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

On 2/14/17 3:38 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

J. Landman Gay wrote:


My other project is crashing on Android the same way. It also has heavy
server/internet use. I'm starting to think that's where the problem lies.


I wonder if that may be related to some of the leaks closed recently.



Would be nice, but it happens in 9.0dp4 too. :( My stack is in the QCC, 
maybe they can figure it out. We have a repeatable recipe.


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Re: automating enabling of plugin settings on new versions

2017-02-14 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

Dr. Hawkins wrote:

> The issue is that as shipped, there is an option in the plugin
> settings to save changes/choices--and it just plain doesn't work,
> failing silently due to the permissions.
>
> Rather than saving inside of the application bundle, it seems that the
> "correct" way for this to happen is to be writing to ~/Library
> /Application\Support

Even better, the plugin should ideally stay where it is but write its 
prefs out to a separate file in some user-writable folder.


You may want to contact the author to see about modernizing the prefs 
handling. I've found the team very receptive to handling updates of 
bundled plugins, but v9 DP is approaching, so the sooner the better.


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Re: automating enabling of plugin settings on new versions

2017-02-14 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 7:51 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I think that changing the permissions of the app bundle may cause issues
> with OSX's Gatekeeper. If you want to customize or change the settings (and
> make sure the changes do stick) of the Application Browser, I suggest you
> put a copy of it in your Plugins folder.
>

The issue is that as shipped, there is an option in the plugin settings to
save changes/choices--and it just plain doesn't work, failing silently due
to the permissions.

Rather than saving inside of the application bundle, it seems that the
"correct" way for this to happen is to be writing to ~/Library/Application\
Support

In fact, my understanding is that *not* writing there is, by apple's
definition, a bug/wrong/heresy/etc.

Copying plugins on each release opens its own can of worms.

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Re: Nabble fools one of us

2017-02-14 Thread Martin Koob via use-livecode
I cc'd my earlier message to Heather at LiveCode so maybe she can figure it
out.

Martin




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Re: Deleting stacks on the fly

2017-02-14 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

J. Landman Gay wrote:


My other project is crashing on Android the same way. It also has heavy
server/internet use. I'm starting to think that's where the problem lies.


I wonder if that may be related to some of the leaks closed recently.

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Re: Deleting stacks on the fly

2017-02-14 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
BTW, we're not talking about creating and deleting new stacks on the fly, 
we mean the "delete stack" command that removes an open stack from RAM.

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On February 14, 2017 10:51:06 AM "J. Landman Gay via use-livecode" 
 wrote:



I frequently delete stacks when memory is an issue, which is the problem
with Swami's stack suite. I also create almost all new stacks with
destroystack set to true for the same reason.

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On February 14, 2017 9:44:36 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
 wrote:


Is there any reason to delete the stack? If not, don't. Clearly any CtoD
should be investigated, but I have never seen why an app would be designed
to create and delete stacks when all you have to do is show and hide
existing ones.

Bob S



On Feb 13, 2017, at 22:00 , Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
 wrote:

   This works if we just use "close stack oStackName"

   but if I change this to "delete stack oStackName"



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Re: Deleting stacks on the fly

2017-02-14 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I frequently delete stacks when memory is an issue, which is the problem 
with Swami's stack suite. I also create almost all new stacks with 
destroystack set to true for the same reason.


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On February 14, 2017 9:44:36 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Is there any reason to delete the stack? If not, don't. Clearly any CtoD 
should be investigated, but I have never seen why an app would be designed 
to create and delete stacks when all you have to do is show and hide 
existing ones.


Bob S


On Feb 13, 2017, at 22:00 , Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
 wrote:


   This works if we just use "close stack oStackName"

   but if I change this to "delete stack oStackName"



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Re: Deleting stacks on the fly

2017-02-14 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Is there any reason to delete the stack? If not, don't. Clearly any CtoD should 
be investigated, but I have never seen why an app would be designed to create 
and delete stacks when all you have to do is show and hide existing ones. 

Bob S


> On Feb 13, 2017, at 22:00 , Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>This works if we just use "close stack oStackName"
> 
>but if I change this to "delete stack oStackName"


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[ANN] A quick note about the conference

2017-02-14 Thread Mark Schonewille via use-livecode

Hi,

The eHUG International Mini Conference on LiveCode will take place on 
25th February between 13:00 and 18:00 at the Ibis hotel in the city 
centre of Antwerp. Address: Meistraat 39, Antwerp, Belgium.


Reasonably prices rooms are still available. Book those on the Ibis website.

More information is available at http://economy-x-talk.com/conf
Keep an eye on the website as we're updating.

After the conference, we'll go somewhere for dinner and socialising. We 
might also arrange something for the next day.


More info will follow soon.

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Re: Windows and OSX 64-bit builds?

2017-02-14 Thread Richmond via use-livecode

Most probably :)

On 13/02/17 23:37, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode wrote:

The blind leading the blind?

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


Over here, in Bulgaria, they expect kids to have got to grips with
Calculus to start studying programming!




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