Is there a technical difference between a RC and stable release?

2017-04-05 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
Hello, I know about the life cycle dp - rc - stable release. What I actually don't know, is there any "technical" difference behind the scenes between a RC and a stable release? Is a RC just an approval state for any feedback from us and could go 1:1 into a stable release, if there are no

Re: Is there a technical difference between a RC and stable release?

2017-04-05 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Hi Tiemo, On 2017-04-05 08:25, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode wrote: What I actually don't know, is there any "technical" difference behind the scenes between a RC and a stable release? Is a RC just an approval state for any feedback from us and could go 1:1 into a stable release, if there

Re: HyperCard on your current Macintosh computer

2017-04-05 Thread JB via use-livecode
Thanks Richmond. A lot of the programs at Macintosh Garden will run on Mini vMac. You will find a lot of Hypercard stacks there too. http://macintoshgarden.org JB > On Apr 4, 2017, at 11:48 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode >

AW: Is there a technical difference between a RC and stable release?

2017-04-05 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
Hi Mark, thank you for your helpful and clarifying explanation! Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Mark Waddingham via use-livecode Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. April 2017 09:20 An: How to use LiveCode

standalone build: "checking directory exists" takes up to 2 min

2017-04-05 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
Hello, LC 8.1 – 8.1.4 and 9.0. I am on Win 10. The stack file source as well as the standalone build directory is located on a windows server. When building a standalone für my (complex) main application on the server dir the standalone builder progress stopps at the stage „checking directory

Re: HyperCard on your current Macintosh computer

2017-04-05 Thread Keith Martin via use-livecode
On 5 Apr 2017, at 7:48, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: https://github.com/jedahan/hypermac I couldn't get that version of Mini vMac to run; it couldn't find the vMac.ROM file. But there's a slightly newer version of the app () that works well if you put it in there instead. It's

Re: revBrowser

2017-04-05 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-04-05 16:30, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: The dictionary says There is a sample stack for revBrowser at the following location in the LiveCode folder: Resources/Examples/Browser Samper.rev. This stack demonstrates, with many examples, how to use browser objects in an

revBrowser

2017-04-05 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
The dictionary says There is a sample stack for revBrowser at the following location in the LiveCode folder: Resources/Examples/Browser Samper.rev. This stack demonstrates, with many examples, how to use browser objects in an application. Anyone know where it can be found ? -- Alex.

Re: MDM and App deployment

2017-04-05 Thread Terry Judd via use-livecode
I missed the start of this thread so I might be off target but the app needs to be server from a secure (https) server. If it isn’t and/or if your manifest file isn’t perfect then you will get that sort of message as well. Terry... On 6/04/2017 12:18 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of J. Landman

Stack focus

2017-04-05 Thread Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode
I’m seeing this issue where going from stack “A” to stack “B” doesn’t focus on stack “B”: script: go card 1 of stack "A" go card 1 of stack “B" goes to stack “B” but its titlebar is greyed out until you physically click on stack “B.” This: go card 1 of stack "A" go card 1 of stack “B" click

Re: Could not open module file

2017-04-05 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi Bill, Just a shot in the dark: Does the stack contain a spinner widget from LiveCode 9.0 DP x? If yes, this will not compile in LiveCode 8.x. Best, Panos On 6 Apr 2017 02:35, "William Prothero via use-livecode" < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: Building a stand-alone in LC 8.1.4 (RC1)

Re: Could not open module file

2017-04-05 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
I don't think so, but I'll try it tomorrow with lc9. Thanks, Good call! Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org > On Apr 5, 2017, at 10:11 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi Bill, > Just a shot in the dark: Does the stack contain a

Could not open module file

2017-04-05 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Building a stand-alone in LC 8.1.4 (RC1) on Mac OS 10.11.6. I get “Could not open module file”. This is a very un-helpful error message. What could it mean? I get it if I let LC find all inclusions. It would seem that the error message would be able to include the name of the module file??

Re: MDM and App deployment

2017-04-05 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 4/5/17 5:17 PM, JOHN PATTEN via use-livecode wrote: A student iPad can see the app in their Self Service app, but when they go to install it reports it can’t download at this time. I don't know if things are different with an Enterprise account, but in my experience an app that partially

Re: Negative Numbers and NumberFormat

2017-04-05 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 4/5/2017 7:42 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: > On 4/5/17 5:48 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >> Jacque wrote: >> >>> HyperCard distinguished between "#" and "0" and produced different >>> results. It sounds like LC doesn't? >> >> Confirmed - running this script in v9dp6

Error when create iOS standalone, any workaround ?

2017-04-05 Thread Ludovic THEBAULT via use-livecode
Hello, Since several months now, i’ve randomly error when i compile standalone for iOS(and rarely a crash of livecode). I’am the only one ? I’ve a lot of files included (> 4000 for ± 90 Mo). If you know a workaround… Thanks ! LC 8.13, on macOS 10.11

APNS Debugging

2017-04-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Does anyone have a tool/technique to help figure out what's going on with APNS? I have it working for some apps, but for my latest one, nothing. The feedback from the server looks ok, but cert fiddling hasn't fixed it, device id double-checks hasn't fixed it, blah, blah, blah. -- On the first

Re: for you language experts

2017-04-05 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I Spent an hour memorizing the syntax and now it seems it's a joke?? Bob S > On Apr 4, 2017, at 13:59 , Colin Holgate via use-livecode > wrote: > > This may amuse you: > > http://lolcode.org > > ___ > use-livecode

Re: revBrowser

2017-04-05 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-04-05 17:53, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: Well, I looked in the dictionary for "browser" and that's what I found :-) The widgets come under different sections in the left hand drop-down at the moment unfortunately... OK - so now I see there's a choice which should I use

Re: Negative Numbers and NumberFormat

2017-04-05 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Never mind. Bob S > On Apr 4, 2017, at 13:12 , hh via use-livecode > wrote: > Bob S. wrote: You should rather say the number format determines the num of DIGITS. >>> hh wrote: >>> That's what you wish to have (good idea). But it's not like that,

Re: Negative Numbers and NumberFormat

2017-04-05 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-04-03 19:11, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Was anyone aware that the sign takes up one of the digital in number format? For instance, set the numberformat to "00";put -1 +0 & ":" & 0 +0 & ":" & 0 +0 returns: -1:00:00 but set the numberformat to "00";put -12 +0 & ":" & 0 +0 & ":"

Re: revBrowser

2017-04-05 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
On 05/04/2017 15:34, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: It is inside the app bundle on Mac - Contents/Tools/Resources/... - on windows it will be in Program Files in the LiveCode folder. There probably is somewhere in the IDE that links to it, but I can't remember where off the top of

Re: HyperCard on your current Macintosh computer

2017-04-05 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Same here. I wish I still had all those old 800k floppy disks. I had some great apps on them. I wrote a Monopoly game once when Hypercard was only black and white! That was a trick. It was buggy, but it worked right up until you tried to collect money for someone landing on your property. The

Re: this stack gets every closeStack message

2017-04-05 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
the executionContexts Bob S On Apr 4, 2017, at 19:22 , Matt Maier via use-livecode > wrote: I'm not aware of a way to "trace" where a message has been and the keywords I can think of aren't turning up anything promising in the

Re: revBrowser

2017-04-05 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-04-05 18:18, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: That is a good question - I shall check... Panos dug this out: Hope this helps! Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~

Re: Error when create iOS standalone, any workaround ?

2017-04-05 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi Ludovic, What is the error message you are getting? Best, Panos -- On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Ludovic THEBAULT via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hello, > > Since several months now, i’ve randomly error when i compile standalone > for iOS(and rarely a crash of

Re: standalone build: "checking directory exists" takes up to 2 min

2017-04-05 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Tiemo Hollmann wrote: LC 8.1 – 8.1.4 and 9.0. I am on Win 10. The stack file source as well as the standalone build directory is located on a windows server. When building a standalone für my (complex) main application on the server dir the standalone builder progress stopps at the stage

Re: Error when create iOS standalone, any workaround ?

2017-04-05 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Ah yes, I see that occasionally (usually when I install a new version of Xcode or LiveCode), but it seems to disappear on subsequent build attempts. I have not managed to find a reproducible recipe though. On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 8:00 PM, Ludovic THEBAULT via use-livecode <

Re: Mysterious customer

2017-04-05 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Thankyou very much indeed, that is exactly the answer I was looking for: very glad indeed to know it was "not me" :) Richmond. On 4/5/17 2:59 pm, Kay C Lan via use-livecode wrote: I have a Retina display, I downloaded your app and it's as Roger deduced: If, via System Preferences -> Displays

Re: Negative Numbers and NumberFormat

2017-04-05 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
And here is an oddity again. In the dictionary, there is no mention of spaces or any other character besides "0.#" being valid in a numberformat string, but: set the numberformat to " 00";put -09+0 & ":" & 00+0 & ":" & 00+0 produces -09:000:000 In fact, you can put ANYTHING in place of a 0,

Re: Negative Numbers and NumberFormat

2017-04-05 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-04-05 20:28, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: And here is an oddity again. In the dictionary, there is no mention of spaces or any other character besides "0.#" being valid in a numberformat string, but: set the numberformat to " 00";put -09+0 & ":" & 00+0 & ":" & 00+0 produces

Re: Negative Numbers and NumberFormat

2017-04-05 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
I should say the bit of engine code which does parsing and application of the numberformat has been left untouched in terms of what it does for as long as I can remember... It is one of those places where a subtle change could break apps quite easily as it is somewhat hard to see precisely what

Re: Negative Numbers and NumberFormat

2017-04-05 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-04-05 19:21, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: The latter bit about 'not being able to do arithmetic' might sound odd but it is a reflection of the finiteness of computers. Just correcting myself: 'finiteness of computers' was the wrong thing to say here - if you can represent

Re: Error when create iOS standalone, any workaround ?

2017-04-05 Thread Ludovic THEBAULT via use-livecode
> Le 5 avr. 2017 à 19:14, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode > a écrit : > > Hi Ludovic, > > What is the error message you are getting? > > Best, > Panos Now i’ve this error : linkin for arm (arm64) failed with id: warning: id: warning: object file

Re: Negative Numbers and NumberFormat

2017-04-05 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
That was my point, that the sign should not take up one of the digits in numberformat 00. And thank you for your explanation about strings being strings until math was done on them. In my timeCalc() function however, I already convery everything to seconds and just before conatenating HH, MM

Re: Error when create iOS standalone, any workaround ?

2017-04-05 Thread Ludovic via use-livecode
I have the error morte frequently. It seems to be more common when Livecode is in the background and during long compilations. Ludovic > Le 5 avr. 2017 à 21:07, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode > a écrit : > > Ah yes, I see that occasionally (usually when I

RE: Error when create iOS standalone, any workaround ?

2017-04-05 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Panos, I see this maybe 30% of this after first launching LC, then not again until a re-launch(maybe). I can build and build... with no error after the first error. If I don't get the error on the first build then I never see the error in that session. Can't seem to find a recipe. Ralph

Re: Negative Numbers and NumberFormat

2017-04-05 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Yup. I have thought for a long time that there should be a formatNumber() function that did almost exactly what Excel does in terms of formatting a number. I will have to look into that. I'll post it if I throw one together. Should be easy given the string operations LC is capable of. Bob S

Re: Error when create iOS standalone, any workaround ?

2017-04-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I've been running into this frequently. This happens in a variety of combinations. Sometimes just running it again fixes it. Sometimes it does not. The thing that most frequently resolves it is if I go into standalone builder settings and change the target ios version, even just reselecting

AW: standalone build: "checking directory exists" takes up to 2 min

2017-04-05 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
No, the delay is almost constant with this stack and after the delay of (most times) 1:40 min the, message „checking directory exists“ pops up again, as if there was a "time out" at the first try and then it takes only the standard 2-3 seconds, before the process continous. Tiemo

Re: iOS app rejected five times because of background audio setting

2017-04-05 Thread Richard Miller via use-livecode
Apple just rejected my app again, for the same reason, complaining that my code regarding background audio Is incorrect, even though it is identical to yours. This time, I have challenged them to discuss this issue on the phone. On 4/3/17 5:51 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: I just looked at the

Import or export snapshot at current scaleFactor

2017-04-05 Thread Terry Judd via use-livecode
I’m automating the creation of a series of images (mostly graphs or similar) to include in some non LC generated reports and I need to be able to produce them at a higher than screen resolution so that they will look ok. I was thinking that I could just increase the scaleFactor of the stack and

Re: Negative Numbers and NumberFormat

2017-04-05 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 4/5/17 2:07 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: I should say the bit of engine code which does parsing and application of the numberformat has been left untouched in terms of what it does for as long as I can remember... It is one of those places where a subtle change could break apps

MDM and App deployment

2017-04-05 Thread JOHN PATTEN via use-livecode
Hi All, History - We use JAMF (Casper) as our MDM. Our math teachers have been using an app called Casper Focus which locks students into a particular web site for when they are giving the students an assessment. JAMF no longer supports Casper Focus now that Apple has created the Classroom

Re: APNS Debugging

2017-04-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
wow, that took long enough to diagnose. It turns out that there was an invalid provisioning profile for the app, BUT I could still compile/link/distribute using the profile, and the app still ran. Once I got down to the bottom of the page to check the profiles (after trying everything else), I

HyperCard on your current Macintosh computer

2017-04-05 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
https://github.com/jedahan/hypermac On the upper right-hand side of the page there is a green "Clone or download" button. Clicking this reveals an menu which has an option "Download Zip". Extract this zip, then run the app "Mini vMac". Not me, just something I found on a Yahoo Group.

Re: Mysterious customer

2017-04-05 Thread Kay C Lan via use-livecode
I have a Retina display, I downloaded your app and it's as Roger deduced: If, via System Preferences -> Displays I change my usual setting of 'More Space' to 'Larger Text' the Retina Display is effectively turned into a 1024 x 640 display; you App is magnified and doesn't fit and it can't be made

Re: standalone build: "checking directory exists" takes up to 2 min

2017-04-05 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
If you build a standalone for your app, and immediately build again, is the second build faster? If so, it would make me think that the server spins some of its drives down and it takes a second or two to spin them back up. Even if the drive you are accessing doesn't spin down, if others on the

Re: Suspend LiveCode UI

2017-04-05 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Development/Suspend Development Tools Richmond. On 4/5/17 1:13 pm, Mats Åström via use-livecode wrote: Hi, the dictionary reads: "The LiveCode development environment traps the copyKey message, unless "Suspend LiveCode UI" is turned on in the Development menu. This means that thecopyKey

Re: Negative Numbers and NumberFormat

2017-04-05 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Jacque wrote: > HyperCard distinguished between "#" and "0" and produced different > results. It sounds like LC doesn't? Confirmed - running this script in v9dp6 and again all the way back in v6.0: on mouseUp set the numberformat to "###.###" put 2.5 + 2.5 into x set the

Re: Import or export snapshot at current scaleFactor

2017-04-05 Thread Jim Lambert via use-livecode
Terry, Try this import snapshot from ObjRef at size (the width of ObjRef * scaleBy),(the height of ObjRef * scaleBy) Where ObjRef is the object whose snapshot you want to import and scaleBy is the scaling factor. So something like: import snapshot from grp 1 at size (the

Standalone Magnify Problem

2017-04-05 Thread Peter Reid via use-livecode
I'm following an approach published sometime ago (http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=7=8288 ) to provide a floating magnifier over the top of quite a large image. I have it working fine when I'm in the development environment but it's

Suspend LiveCode UI

2017-04-05 Thread Mats Åström via use-livecode
Hi, the dictionary reads: "The LiveCode development environment traps the copyKey message, unless "Suspend LiveCode UI" is turned on in the Development menu. This means that thecopyKey message is not received by a stack if it's running in the development environment." There is no "Suspend

Re: Import or export snapshot at current scaleFactor

2017-04-05 Thread Terry Judd via use-livecode
Thanks Jim, that’s perfect! I don’t know how many times I’ve looked at the import/export command in the dictionary and not seen the size modifier. Much appreciated. Terry... On 6/04/2017 9:14 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Jim Lambert via use-livecode"

Re: Negative Numbers and NumberFormat

2017-04-05 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 4/5/17 5:48 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Jacque wrote: HyperCard distinguished between "#" and "0" and produced different results. It sounds like LC doesn't? Confirmed - running this script in v9dp6 and again all the way back in v6.0: on mouseUp set the numberformat to