AW: 64 bit desktop apps

[Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode]

I would love to build 64-bit for Mac, but up to now, the Valentina extension
is still 32-bit, I hope they'll get it fixed by time.
Tiemo


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Betreff: Re: 64 bit desktop apps

On 2017-06-07 21:59, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:
> I disagree as there are plenty of Macs "out there" in the worldthat 
> run 32-bit systems.

Not that LiveCode supports.

> Far better to have BOTH possibilities checked as default.

Only if there existed a Mac which can run LiveCode but cannot run 64-bit
apps - which is the case for LiveCode 9.x as it supports 10.9+.

Indeed it would be far better to have no possibility at all (simpler) - just
build for 64-bit since...

64-bit support has been around since 10.6, at that time there were machines
which could run 10.6 which were 32-bit only.

However, all macs which will run 10.7 will run 64-bit apps.

Therefore, if LiveCode only supports 10.7 and above, then LiveCode and any
apps you build with it need only be 64-bit.

Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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Re: 64 bit desktop apps

[Mark Waddingham via use-livecode]

On 2017-06-07 21:59, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:

I disagree as there are plenty of Macs "out there" in the worldthat
run 32-bit systems.


Not that LiveCode supports.


Far better to have BOTH possibilities checked as default.


Only if there existed a Mac which can run LiveCode but cannot run 64-bit 
apps - which is the case for LiveCode 9.x as it supports 10.9+.


Indeed it would be far better to have no possibility at all (simpler) - 
just build for 64-bit since...


64-bit support has been around since 10.6, at that time there were 
machines which could run 10.6 which were 32-bit only.


However, all macs which will run 10.7 will run 64-bit apps.

Therefore, if LiveCode only supports 10.7 and above, then LiveCode and 
any apps you build with it need only be 64-bit.


Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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LC 8.1.4 and Xcode 8.3.3

[hlowe via use-livecode]

The release docs for LC 8.1.4 state:

 "Last but not least, LiveCode 8.1.4 includes support for building iOS apps
using the latest iOS SDKs, included in Xcode 8.3.x."

Installed LC Indy 8.1.4 on a Mac under MacOS 10.12.5, installed the new
version of Xcode (8.3.3) and I get this error message when attempting to run
an LC iOS app in the simulator:

"Unable to start simulator: 634,0,0,iPhone Simulator version not found
573,220,1,reviPhoneSetSimulatorSDK"

Going to Preferences>Mobile Support and pointing at the newly installed
Xcode did not help. Reinstalled xCode 8.3.2 and everything back to normal.

Henry



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Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

I've done it both ways but usually only create controls on the fly when 
there are only a few objects (two or three usually.) Anything more complex, 
I use a template group and copy that instead. It's nearly instantaneous. I 
did a mobile app that copied a group dozens of times in a preOpenCard 
handler and there was no discernable delay.


I'd like to hear from the team about what's involved, but my theory is that 
it takes more time to create, place, and setup multiple controls than to 
just duplicate an existing group. The scripts are easier to read and much 
shorter too.


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On June 7, 2017 11:44:55 PM Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
 wrote:


We are in need of an "info-text" control which we can use "everywhere" 
instead of reinventing this in each stack/ module in our app.  for Help | 
About |Instructions |Privacy Policy etc…  all to be dynamically loaded and 
shown on demand.


Different contexts require a different size.

Thanks to Richard's gentle prodding and logic I dove enthusiastically into 
the learning curve on responsive UI code for LC.. using the Sheep Herder lesson


Our use case is also very simple.  A control for displaying info/text

4 objects:

1) background image (wont' suffer visually from distortion)
2) bkgnd "mask" graphic (goes underneath a field)
3) info-text field
4) widget with SVG close "X out"path, top right..

I put this script in the group "info-display"… it works just fine. Yay! 
mission accomplished for a) responsive control


on resizeControl
lock screen
set the rect of img "info-bkgnd-img" to the rect of me
set the width of grc "info-field-bkgnd" to the width of me * .87
set the height of grc "info-field-bkgnd" to the height of me * .87
set the width of fld "info-text" to the width of me * .80
set the height of fld "info-text" to the height of me * .80
set the loc of img "info-bkgnd-img" to the loc of me
set the loc of grc "info-field-bkgnd" to the loc of me
set the loc of fld "info-text" to the loc of me
set the right of widget "close-info" to the right of fld "info-text"
set the bottom of widget "close-info" to the top of grc "info-field-bkgnd" - 5
set the loc of me to the loc of this card
unlock screen
end resizeControl

So far, I'm sure this is baby talk for most of you.

But the next question is

b)  about best strategy for instantiation.

1) does it make sense to build this dynamically as needed from script using 
"create" and then you put this "create control" script into a library? It 
has the advantage of no binary object, so you can keep it in your text only 
"stacks" .livecodescript, but could be slow?


OR

2) is it faster (on Android or iOS especially)  to create it as a template 
group  then use


copy grp "info-display"  of card 1 of stack "dialog-templates" to this card

??

What has your experience led you to choose as your best practice and why 
and how do you do it?


Similarly we have small "lists" Indices… that are typically rows of grouped 
controls. Using data grid would be overkill in most contexts… so the 
default is to create a "row" as a group, duplicate this and then group all 
those rows as a single scrolling group.
so this is a similar pattern: use a template and copy the group? or 
instantiate them dynamically from script? Which is better/faster? IYHO


BR

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Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

[Terry Judd via use-livecode]

Hi BR - for me it depends on how many instances of the control I’m likely to 
need on the screen. If I only ever display one at a time then I usually include 
it as a shared group and place it on any card that might require it and 
show/hide, populate and layer it dynamically as required. If I need multiple 
instances of it then then I do the copy thing and discard and instances when I 
leave the screen. I don’t usually create these sorts of multi-part controls 
from scratch and I haven’t used text only stacks so I don’t really have any 
advice there. I also love the flexibility of datagrids so I tend to use them 
(on both mobile and desktop) wherever I need a list-style control, no matter 
how simple it is.

HTH,

Terry...

On 8/06/2017 2:42 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via 
use-livecode"  wrote:

We are in need of an "info-text" control which we can use "everywhere" 
instead of reinventing this in each stack/ module in our app.  for Help | About 
|Instructions |Privacy Policy etc…  all to be dynamically loaded and shown on 
demand.

Different contexts require a different size.

Thanks to Richard's gentle prodding and logic I dove enthusiastically into 
the learning curve on responsive UI code for LC.. using the Sheep Herder lesson

Our use case is also very simple.  A control for displaying info/text

4 objects:

1) background image (wont' suffer visually from distortion)
2) bkgnd "mask" graphic (goes underneath a field)
3) info-text field
4) widget with SVG close "X out"path, top right..

I put this script in the group "info-display"… it works just fine. Yay! 
mission accomplished for a) responsive control

on resizeControl
lock screen
set the rect of img "info-bkgnd-img" to the rect of me
set the width of grc "info-field-bkgnd" to the width of me * .87
set the height of grc "info-field-bkgnd" to the height of me * .87
set the width of fld "info-text" to the width of me * .80
set the height of fld "info-text" to the height of me * .80
set the loc of img "info-bkgnd-img" to the loc of me
set the loc of grc "info-field-bkgnd" to the loc of me
set the loc of fld "info-text" to the loc of me
set the right of widget "close-info" to the right of fld "info-text"
set the bottom of widget "close-info" to the top of grc "info-field-bkgnd" 
- 5
set the loc of me to the loc of this card
unlock screen
end resizeControl

So far, I'm sure this is baby talk for most of you.

But the next question is

b)  about best strategy for instantiation.

1) does it make sense to build this dynamically as needed from script using 
"create" and then you put this "create control" script into a library? It has 
the advantage of no binary object, so you can keep it in your text only 
"stacks" .livecodescript, but could be slow?

OR

2) is it faster (on Android or iOS especially)  to create it as a template 
group  then use

copy grp "info-display"  of card 1 of stack "dialog-templates" to this card

??

What has your experience led you to choose as your best practice and why 
and how do you do it?

Similarly we have small "lists" Indices… that are typically rows of grouped 
controls. Using data grid would be overkill in most contexts… so the default is 
to create a "row" as a group, duplicate this and then group all those rows as a 
single scrolling group.
so this is a similar pattern: use a template and copy the group? or 
instantiate them dynamically from script? Which is better/faster? IYHO

BR

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Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode]

We are in need of an "info-text" control which we can use "everywhere" instead 
of reinventing this in each stack/ module in our app.  for Help | About 
|Instructions |Privacy Policy etc…  all to be dynamically loaded and shown on 
demand.

Different contexts require a different size.

Thanks to Richard's gentle prodding and logic I dove enthusiastically into the 
learning curve on responsive UI code for LC.. using the Sheep Herder lesson

Our use case is also very simple.  A control for displaying info/text

4 objects:

1) background image (wont' suffer visually from distortion)
2) bkgnd "mask" graphic (goes underneath a field)
3) info-text field
4) widget with SVG close "X out"path, top right..

I put this script in the group "info-display"… it works just fine. Yay! mission 
accomplished for a) responsive control

on resizeControl
lock screen
set the rect of img "info-bkgnd-img" to the rect of me
set the width of grc "info-field-bkgnd" to the width of me * .87
set the height of grc "info-field-bkgnd" to the height of me * .87
set the width of fld "info-text" to the width of me * .80
set the height of fld "info-text" to the height of me * .80
set the loc of img "info-bkgnd-img" to the loc of me
set the loc of grc "info-field-bkgnd" to the loc of me
set the loc of fld "info-text" to the loc of me
set the right of widget "close-info" to the right of fld "info-text"
set the bottom of widget "close-info" to the top of grc "info-field-bkgnd" - 5
set the loc of me to the loc of this card
unlock screen
end resizeControl

So far, I'm sure this is baby talk for most of you.

But the next question is

b)  about best strategy for instantiation.

1) does it make sense to build this dynamically as needed from script using 
"create" and then you put this "create control" script into a library? It has 
the advantage of no binary object, so you can keep it in your text only 
"stacks" .livecodescript, but could be slow?

OR

2) is it faster (on Android or iOS especially)  to create it as a template 
group  then use

copy grp "info-display"  of card 1 of stack "dialog-templates" to this card

??

What has your experience led you to choose as your best practice and why and 
how do you do it?

Similarly we have small "lists" Indices… that are typically rows of grouped 
controls. Using data grid would be overkill in most contexts… so the default is 
to create a "row" as a group, duplicate this and then group all those rows as a 
single scrolling group.
so this is a similar pattern: use a template and copy the group? or instantiate 
them dynamically from script? Which is better/faster? IYHO

BR

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Re: [ANN] Introducing Remote DB Lib

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

Andre:
I just uploaded the php script and tested out your remoteDbLib. I love it. It 
will make db access much more robust and easier for me to manage. Great job!
Best,
Bill P

> On Jun 6, 2017, at 1:16 PM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> DB Lib (andregarzia/projects/dblib) is a minimalistic database library for
> LiveCode that works on Desktop and Mobile and allows you to build
> database-savvy apps without writing SQL directly.
> 
> This post is to introduce a great new feature called Remote DB Lib. As you
> may know from posts on the mailing list and forums, many developers would
> like to use DB Lib in their apps over the internet. Like all other database
> libraries that work on top of RevDB, DB Lib (until today) needed to connect
> directly to the database server to work and this is not a good solution for
> apps that work over the internet since exposing MySQL to the internet at
> large is a huge security risk.
> 
> Today I am releasing the first version of a drop-in replacement library
> called **Remote DB Lib**. This new library has the same API as the current
> DB Lib but instead of working on top of RevDB, it works alongside a
> matching PHP file on your server, it is this PHP file that actually talks
> to the database server. The Remote DB Lib picks all your DB Lib calls and
> packs it on an encrypted message that is sent to the PHP file where it is
> decrypted and executed. This library is using state of the art AES 256
> encryption.
> 
> More info at: andregarzia.com/en/blog/introducing-remote-dblib
> 
> This new library is a part of the DB Lib product so all current customers
> should be receiving an update notice shortly. For those that don't have a
> license yet, this is a good time to get it and enhance the security of your
> apps.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> andre
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: 64 bit desktop apps

[Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode]

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I’m running High Sierra, the one before the 32 bit ban I guess, and it
> can still run LiveCode 5 ok.
>

I'm *supposed* to be offered beta apple software on this machine, but it
denies that any is available . . .

Hmm, seems that my membership is expired, and it wants annual payments
again???

Huh?


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Re: Regex help...

[Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode]

On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 1:45 PM, hh via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Your "ie" is not true. So what do you want?


Regexp is red,
my face turneth blue.
My heart is now shattered,
For my "ie" ie is untrue.


:)


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Re: [ANN] Introducing Remote DB Lib

[Andre Garzia via use-livecode]

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 7:43 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Is your library for the LC Server CGI, or does it require a custom LC
> standalone daemon?


The server part is PHP for maximum compatibility with cheap VPS everywhere
but I am thinking about doing a LC based one as well.


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Re: 64 bit desktop apps

[Jerry Jensen via use-livecode]

Is this for sure and official? I am working on an LC front end for a legacy 
system that sits upon an old XCode port of a database system called DB Vista 
(written in old testament C as for unix). It is definitely NOT 64 bit. I 
mentioned this to my colleague, who did the port and the first layer on top of 
it. His response was “I am hiding under the blakets with my fingers in my ears”.
.Jerry

> On Jun 7, 2017, at 8:05 AM, Charles Szasz via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Apple announced that the next MacOS operation system after High Sierra will 
> only support 64 bit desktop apps. What version of LC supports creating 64 bit 
> apps?



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Re: [ANN] Introducing Remote DB Lib

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Andre Garzia wrote:

> My advise is for you to get a small VPS...
...
> Also, on-rev should be an easy sell here for RunRev helps sets things
> up right? Am I wrong? I haven't been up to date with on-rev stuff...

Is your library for the LC Server CGI, or does it require a custom LC 
standalone daemon?


If CGI then on-rev would seem a good fit, or HostM which also has LC 
pre-installed, or just about any other shared hosting service if you 
don't mind setting up the CGI yourself.


VPSes are great when you need custom configuration, but they can be a 
challenge to set up when you're learning, and a bigger challenge to 
harden sufficiently, things a shared hosting service takes care of.


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Re: [ANN] Introducing Remote DB Lib

[Andre Garzia via use-livecode]

Bill,

I think AWS is over complicated. It is its own ecosystem and has a steep
learning curve. I don't advise starting with it. It is a wonderful
collection of products but they are not that easy.

Cheers

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 7:01 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Andre:
> I actually don’t have anything in mind. But, I keep getting ads for AWS
> and am curious whether it would be useful. Anyway, it’s low priority and I
> really like the way your dB library simply takes an array and puts it into
> the dB without a lot of fussing around.
> Best,
> Bill
>
> > On Jun 7, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > William,
> >
> > I have considered updating my own FB library to use the new GraphQL
> > standard (it will be a major refactor, as in, from scratch). What other
> > services would you like?
> >
> > om om
> > andre
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 2:41 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Andre, I’ll check this out.
> >>
> >> What would be really useful, tho, are libraries to access various web
> >> services that are becoming so popular these days.
> >>
> >> Bill P
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 1:16 PM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode <
> >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> DB Lib (andregarzia/projects/dblib) is a minimalistic database library
> >> for
> >>> LiveCode that works on Desktop and Mobile and allows you to build
> >>> database-savvy apps without writing SQL directly.
> >>>
> >>> This post is to introduce a great new feature called Remote DB Lib. As
> >> you
> >>> may know from posts on the mailing list and forums, many developers
> would
> >>> like to use DB Lib in their apps over the internet. Like all other
> >> database
> >>> libraries that work on top of RevDB, DB Lib (until today) needed to
> >> connect
> >>> directly to the database server to work and this is not a good solution
> >> for
> >>> apps that work over the internet since exposing MySQL to the internet
> at
> >>> large is a huge security risk.
> >>>
> >>> Today I am releasing the first version of a drop-in replacement library
> >>> called **Remote DB Lib**. This new library has the same API as the
> >> current
> >>> DB Lib but instead of working on top of RevDB, it works alongside a
> >>> matching PHP file on your server, it is this PHP file that actually
> talks
> >>> to the database server. The Remote DB Lib picks all your DB Lib calls
> and
> >>> packs it on an encrypted message that is sent to the PHP file where it
> is
> >>> decrypted and executed. This library is using state of the art AES 256
> >>> encryption.
> >>>
> >>> More info at: andregarzia.com/en/blog/introducing-remote-dblib
> >>>
> >>> This new library is a part of the DB Lib product so all current
> customers
> >>> should be receiving an update notice shortly. For those that don't
> have a
> >>> license yet, this is a good time to get it and enhance the security of
> >> your
> >>> apps.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>> andre
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [ANN] Introducing Remote DB Lib

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

Andre:
I actually don’t have anything in mind. But, I keep getting ads for AWS and am 
curious whether it would be useful. Anyway, it’s low priority and I really like 
the way your dB library simply takes an array and puts it into the dB without a 
lot of fussing around.
Best,
Bill

> On Jun 7, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> William,
> 
> I have considered updating my own FB library to use the new GraphQL
> standard (it will be a major refactor, as in, from scratch). What other
> services would you like?
> 
> om om
> andre
> 
> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 2:41 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Andre, I’ll check this out.
>> 
>> What would be really useful, tho, are libraries to access various web
>> services that are becoming so popular these days.
>> 
>> Bill P
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 1:16 PM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> DB Lib (andregarzia/projects/dblib) is a minimalistic database library
>> for
>>> LiveCode that works on Desktop and Mobile and allows you to build
>>> database-savvy apps without writing SQL directly.
>>> 
>>> This post is to introduce a great new feature called Remote DB Lib. As
>> you
>>> may know from posts on the mailing list and forums, many developers would
>>> like to use DB Lib in their apps over the internet. Like all other
>> database
>>> libraries that work on top of RevDB, DB Lib (until today) needed to
>> connect
>>> directly to the database server to work and this is not a good solution
>> for
>>> apps that work over the internet since exposing MySQL to the internet at
>>> large is a huge security risk.
>>> 
>>> Today I am releasing the first version of a drop-in replacement library
>>> called **Remote DB Lib**. This new library has the same API as the
>> current
>>> DB Lib but instead of working on top of RevDB, it works alongside a
>>> matching PHP file on your server, it is this PHP file that actually talks
>>> to the database server. The Remote DB Lib picks all your DB Lib calls and
>>> packs it on an encrypted message that is sent to the PHP file where it is
>>> decrypted and executed. This library is using state of the art AES 256
>>> encryption.
>>> 
>>> More info at: andregarzia.com/en/blog/introducing-remote-dblib
>>> 
>>> This new library is a part of the DB Lib product so all current customers
>>> should be receiving an update notice shortly. For those that don't have a
>>> license yet, this is a good time to get it and enhance the security of
>> your
>>> apps.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> andre
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: 64 bit desktop apps

[hh via use-livecode]

64bit mode usually makes apps slower. So what's Apple's intention?
To make their own apps "relatively faster" by making all others slower?

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Re: 64 bit desktop apps

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

I disagree as there are plenty of Macs "out there" in the worldthat run 
32-bit systems.


Far better to have BOTH possibilities checked as default.

Richmond.

On 6/7/17 10:14 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

On 6/7/17 10:41 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:
The SB by default builds for 32-bit mode, but you can choose 64-bit 
by checking the appropriate box.


When Apple begins requiring 64-bit, it would be a good idea to make 
this the default in the SB.




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Re: 64 bit desktop apps

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

And BTW I can verify it works. It is no longer experimental. :-)

Bob S


> On Jun 7, 2017, at 11:41 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> 8.1.3 does.
> 
> Richmond.
> 
> On 6/7/17 6:05 pm, Charles Szasz via use-livecode wrote:
>> Apple announced that the next MacOS operation system after High Sierra will 
>> only support 64 bit desktop apps. What version of LC supports creating 64 
>> bit apps?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [ANN] Introducing Remote DB Lib

[Andre Garzia via use-livecode]

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Dan Brown via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I purchased to support and tinker. What would be really stellar is a
> livecode standalone that can be run on a webserver and act as a restful API
> endpoint for a database, all without the need for php. There are some
> websocket / httpd vodoo stacks floating around from years ago that were
> exploring that kind of functionality.  Revspark 2017 perhaps...
>

That sounds doable... DB Lib works on the server and can work with
RevSpark. Probably next week ;-)

A minimal RevSpark based server just for this. Should work

Thanks for this feedback, will build on it.

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Re: 64 bit desktop apps

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On 6/7/17 10:41 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:
The SB by default builds for 32-bit mode, but you can choose 64-bit by 
checking the appropriate box.


When Apple begins requiring 64-bit, it would be a good idea to make this 
the default in the SB.


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Re: [ANN] Introducing Remote DB Lib

[Dan Brown via use-livecode]

I purchased to support and tinker. What would be really stellar is a
livecode standalone that can be run on a webserver and act as a restful API
endpoint for a database, all without the need for php. There are some
websocket / httpd vodoo stacks floating around from years ago that were
exploring that kind of functionality.  Revspark 2017 perhaps...

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> I watched the video, and discovered Andre uses some of the same function
> names as I use in my sqlYoga wrappers! DOH!
>
> Bob S
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Re: [ANN] Introducing Remote DB Lib

[Andre Garzia via use-livecode]

Bob,

uhauhahuaahuahu I use basically the same names as Ralfs RevIgniter ORM so
you can credit him for coming up with them.

om om

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> I watched the video, and discovered Andre uses some of the same function
> names as I use in my sqlYoga wrappers! DOH!
>
> Bob S
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Re: [ANN] Introducing Remote DB Lib

[Andre Garzia via use-livecode]

William,

I have considered updating my own FB library to use the new GraphQL
standard (it will be a major refactor, as in, from scratch). What other
services would you like?

om om
andre

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 2:41 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Andre, I’ll check this out.
>
> What would be really useful, tho, are libraries to access various web
> services that are becoming so popular these days.
>
> Bill P
>
>
> > On Jun 6, 2017, at 1:16 PM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > DB Lib (andregarzia/projects/dblib) is a minimalistic database library
> for
> > LiveCode that works on Desktop and Mobile and allows you to build
> > database-savvy apps without writing SQL directly.
> >
> > This post is to introduce a great new feature called Remote DB Lib. As
> you
> > may know from posts on the mailing list and forums, many developers would
> > like to use DB Lib in their apps over the internet. Like all other
> database
> > libraries that work on top of RevDB, DB Lib (until today) needed to
> connect
> > directly to the database server to work and this is not a good solution
> for
> > apps that work over the internet since exposing MySQL to the internet at
> > large is a huge security risk.
> >
> > Today I am releasing the first version of a drop-in replacement library
> > called **Remote DB Lib**. This new library has the same API as the
> current
> > DB Lib but instead of working on top of RevDB, it works alongside a
> > matching PHP file on your server, it is this PHP file that actually talks
> > to the database server. The Remote DB Lib picks all your DB Lib calls and
> > packs it on an encrypted message that is sent to the PHP file where it is
> > decrypted and executed. This library is using state of the art AES 256
> > encryption.
> >
> > More info at: andregarzia.com/en/blog/introducing-remote-dblib
> >
> > This new library is a part of the DB Lib product so all current customers
> > should be receiving an update notice shortly. For those that don't have a
> > license yet, this is a good time to get it and enhance the security of
> your
> > apps.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > andre
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
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Re: [ANN] Introducing Remote DB Lib

[Andre Garzia via use-livecode]

Hey Bob,

Setting up web servers is beyond what I can do in that documentation. It is
not that hard but it is really outside of the scope of database libraries.
My advise is for you to get a small VPS on Digital Ocean, they cost 5 USD
per month and their setup guides are amazing, for example, check this one
out:


https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-16-04

:D :D :D

Also, on-rev should be an easy sell here for RunRev helps sets things up
right? Am I wrong? I haven't been up to date with on-rev stuff...

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> This will take some refactoring for me but I think I must go this route.
> Unfortunately, I have never set up a web server to do this, which I assume
> I will need to do. Does this add-on/plugin have basic instructions for
> getting that side up and running?
>
> Bob S
>
>
> > On Jun 6, 2017, at 13:16 , Andre Garzia via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > DB Lib (andregarzia/projects/dblib) is a minimalistic database library
> for
> > LiveCode that works on Desktop and Mobile and allows you to build
> > database-savvy apps without writing SQL directly.
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Re: [ANN] Introducing Remote DB Lib

[Andre Garzia via use-livecode]

Richard,

Solving database sync is a very custom job. It is quite tricky, I don't
know if I can build a generic enough lib for this but I might try. If I do,
then it will be added to DB Lib just like this one.

om om
andre

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> Andre Garzia wrote:
>
> > With this library you can have a local SQLite database on a mobile
> > app, then, use the new remote library to connect to a remote MySQL
> > server and sync data. Of course you would still need to write the sync
> > and conflict resolution code...
>
> I see another library opportunity there.
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contectRect and scaleFactor

[Dan Friedman via use-livecode]

So, I have a stack that I set the scaleFactor to 1.5 if it’s on a iPhone (I 
leave it at 1 if it’s an iPad).  All is fine, looks great!   However, when I 
add a native scroller to a locked group, the contectRect doesn’t take the 
scaleFactor into account.  So, the scroller scrolls too far to the right and 
the bottom.  I would have thought this would have fixed it, but it’s not right:

if the scaleFactor of this stack <> 1 then
put the scaleFactor of this stack into tFactor
put mobileControlGet(scrollerName,"contentRect") into fRect

put round(item 3 of fRect/ tFactor) into item 3 of fRect
subtract round(item 1 of fRect/ tFactor) from item 3 of fRect

put round(item 4 of fRect/ tFactor) into item 4 of fRect
subtract round(item 2 of fRect/ tFactor) from item 4 of fRect

mobileControlSet scrollerName,"contentRect",fRect
end if

Anyone have any ideas how to correct the scroller so it correctly stays in the 
bounds like it does when  the scaleFactor = 1?

Thanks in advance!
-Dan
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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

No, turnover is not worrisome; in fact the odd spot of fresh blood
is often a good thing.

I just felt "funny" discovering things like this through other channels.

My plans are modest, but focused on LiveCode 100% . . .

and am amzed that LiveCode has both survived and got stronger
when one compares it with all the also-rans which have gone to the wall.

Richmond.

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livecode is not going anywhere. not on my watch anyways... my plans for
it are huge, and there is no way I am not following through with them.   I
am immensly grateful for the people devoted to it over at livecode
incand if that ever changes and it needs stewardship ...I'll be the
first in line.  Like Craig said  there is something miraculous about
itI see it.  It was a miracle to my life for sure.

Sometimes people want new adventures.. turnover isn't that worrysome.
All the best everyone

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 1:39 PM, dunbarx via use-livecode <
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All.

This just goes to show two things:

1- How connected the community is to LC and to each other.

2- The extent that community worries about its health. After all, LC is a
small company, and that engenders a sense that it is fragile. Many remember
HC, which was lost in the shuffle of corporate (and general) indifference.
That fear lingers through the inexplicable incapability of the population
of
the planet to see what a miracle LC is.

This exacerbates that sense of fragility.

Into the breach! Forward!

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Re: 64 bit desktop apps

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

8.1.3 does.

Richmond.

On 6/7/17 6:05 pm, Charles Szasz via use-livecode wrote:

Apple announced that the next MacOS operation system after High Sierra will 
only support 64 bit desktop apps. What version of LC supports creating 64 bit 
apps?


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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

[AndyP via use-livecode]

Thanks Panos for the link.

I'll look a bit harder before putting both feet in!



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Re: [ANN] Introducing Remote DB Lib

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I watched the video, and discovered Andre uses some of the same function names 
as I use in my sqlYoga wrappers! DOH! 

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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

livecode is not going anywhere. not on my watch anyways... my plans for
it are huge, and there is no way I am not following through with them.   I
am immensly grateful for the people devoted to it over at livecode
incand if that ever changes and it needs stewardship ...I'll be the
first in line.  Like Craig said  there is something miraculous about
itI see it.  It was a miracle to my life for sure.

Sometimes people want new adventures.. turnover isn't that worrysome.
All the best everyone

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use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> All.
>
> This just goes to show two things:
>
> 1- How connected the community is to LC and to each other.
>
> 2- The extent that community worries about its health. After all, LC is a
> small company, and that engenders a sense that it is fragile. Many remember
> HC, which was lost in the shuffle of corporate (and general) indifference.
> That fear lingers through the inexplicable incapability of the population
> of
> the planet to see what a miracle LC is.
>
> This exacerbates that sense of fragility.
>
> Into the breach! Forward!
>
> Craig
>
>
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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

I'm going to guess that is a Scottish colloquialism which involves imbibing 
strong drink. 

Bob S


> On Jun 7, 2017, at 11:16 , Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think there was a slight case of Richmond indirectly tilting at windmills 
> (not that I ever do that, oh no, never ;)).
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> 
> Mark.
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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

[Mark Waddingham via use-livecode]

On 2017-06-07 19:56, AndyP via use-livecode wrote:

Where is this blog post?.just gone to the blog page and cannot see any
references to staff changes.


It was in TWiL - Alex (one of our new employees) wrote his first blog 
post last week.


I did not mean to be alarmist or provocative but when two highly 
regarded

team members move on in the same month it does raise concerns.


They didn't move on in the same month. As Heather said, Ben went part 
time around 2 years ago, and continues to be.


I think there was a slight case of Richmond indirectly tilting at 
windmills (not that I ever do that, oh no, never ;)).


Warmest Regards,

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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Hi Andy,

See
https://livecode.github.io/this-week-in-livecode/issue/2017/05/24/this-week-in-livecode-83.html

Best,
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> Re
> "All the staff changes were discussed in the last blog post. It isn't a
> secret. Staff move on and are replaced. "
>
> Where is this blog post?.just gone to the blog page and cannot see any
> references to staff changes.
>
> I did not mean to be alarmist or provocative but when two highly regarded
> team members move on in the same month it does raise concerns.
>
> Anyway looking forward to news on the new team members.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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>
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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

[AndyP via use-livecode]

Re
"All the staff changes were discussed in the last blog post. It isn't a 
secret. Staff move on and are replaced. "

Where is this blog post?.just gone to the blog page and cannot see any
references to staff changes.

I did not mean to be alarmist or provocative but when two highly regarded
team members move on in the same month it does raise concerns.

Anyway looking forward to news on the new team members.






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Re: [ANN] Introducing Remote DB Lib

[Dan Brown via use-livecode]

I went ahead and purchased to show support and tinker but what would be
really stellar is a livecode restful api standalone that  runs on a
webserver  without the need for php. Revspark 2017 perhaps

On 7 Jun 2017 6:41 pm, "William Prothero via use-livecode" <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Andre, I’ll check this out.
>
> What would be really useful, tho, are libraries to access various web
> services that are becoming so popular these days.
>
> Bill P
>
>
> > On Jun 6, 2017, at 1:16 PM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > DB Lib (andregarzia/projects/dblib) is a minimalistic database library
> for
> > LiveCode that works on Desktop and Mobile and allows you to build
> > database-savvy apps without writing SQL directly.
> >
> > This post is to introduce a great new feature called Remote DB Lib. As
> you
> > may know from posts on the mailing list and forums, many developers would
> > like to use DB Lib in their apps over the internet. Like all other
> database
> > libraries that work on top of RevDB, DB Lib (until today) needed to
> connect
> > directly to the database server to work and this is not a good solution
> for
> > apps that work over the internet since exposing MySQL to the internet at
> > large is a huge security risk.
> >
> > Today I am releasing the first version of a drop-in replacement library
> > called **Remote DB Lib**. This new library has the same API as the
> current
> > DB Lib but instead of working on top of RevDB, it works alongside a
> > matching PHP file on your server, it is this PHP file that actually talks
> > to the database server. The Remote DB Lib picks all your DB Lib calls and
> > packs it on an encrypted message that is sent to the PHP file where it is
> > decrypted and executed. This library is using state of the art AES 256
> > encryption.
> >
> > More info at: andregarzia.com/en/blog/introducing-remote-dblib
> >
> > This new library is a part of the DB Lib product so all current customers
> > should be receiving an update notice shortly. For those that don't have a
> > license yet, this is a good time to get it and enhance the security of
> your
> > apps.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > andre
> >
> >
> > 
> >
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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

[dunbarx via use-livecode]

All.

This just goes to show two things:

1- How connected the community is to LC and to each other.

2- The extent that community worries about its health. After all, LC is a
small company, and that engenders a sense that it is fragile. Many remember
HC, which was lost in the shuffle of corporate (and general) indifference.
That fear lingers through the inexplicable incapability of the population of
the planet to see what a miracle LC is.

This exacerbates that sense of fragility.

Into the breach! Forward!

Craig



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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

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On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> OH NO!  WHAT DOES "SURVIVING" MEAN???!?!?!?!?!


Haven't you ever heard of a "toxic bug"?

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Re: [ANN] Introducing Remote DB Lib

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

Andre, I’ll check this out.

What would be really useful, tho, are libraries to access various web services 
that are becoming so popular these days. 

Bill P


> On Jun 6, 2017, at 1:16 PM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> DB Lib (andregarzia/projects/dblib) is a minimalistic database library for
> LiveCode that works on Desktop and Mobile and allows you to build
> database-savvy apps without writing SQL directly.
> 
> This post is to introduce a great new feature called Remote DB Lib. As you
> may know from posts on the mailing list and forums, many developers would
> like to use DB Lib in their apps over the internet. Like all other database
> libraries that work on top of RevDB, DB Lib (until today) needed to connect
> directly to the database server to work and this is not a good solution for
> apps that work over the internet since exposing MySQL to the internet at
> large is a huge security risk.
> 
> Today I am releasing the first version of a drop-in replacement library
> called **Remote DB Lib**. This new library has the same API as the current
> DB Lib but instead of working on top of RevDB, it works alongside a
> matching PHP file on your server, it is this PHP file that actually talks
> to the database server. The Remote DB Lib picks all your DB Lib calls and
> packs it on an encrypted message that is sent to the PHP file where it is
> decrypted and executed. This library is using state of the art AES 256
> encryption.
> 
> More info at: andregarzia.com/en/blog/introducing-remote-dblib
> 
> This new library is a part of the DB Lib product so all current customers
> should be receiving an update notice shortly. For those that don't have a
> license yet, this is a good time to get it and enhance the security of your
> apps.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> andre
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

OH NO!  WHAT DOES "SURVIVING" MEAN???!?!?!?!?!

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Heather Laine via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hm... lol. Well Ben stayed with us for a good 8 years, and moved on to
> spread his wings a couple of years ago. As Mark said, he still works for us
> part time. You might even have met him at LiveCode events since he moved on.
>
> Staff changes happen! Not perhaps all that often at LiveCode, people by
> and large seem to like it here and stay, but there is a (moderately)
> regular turnover. It's not exactly news.
>
> Warm Regards,
>
> Heather
> (who is now the longest surviving staff member other than Kevin)
>
> Heather Laine
> Customer Services Manager
> LiveCode Ltd
> www.livecode.com
>
>
>
> > On 7 Jun 2017, at 17:00, AndyP via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Worrying in view that Dr Peter Brett recently left as well.
> >
> > His twitter post here>
> > https://twitter.com/PeterTBBrett/status/849958594745438208
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > Andy Piddock
> >
> >
> > My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
> >
> > TinyIDE a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode
> > TinyIDE
> >
> >
> > Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk
> >
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> picker / finder.
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Re: [ANN] Introducing Remote DB Lib

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

This will take some refactoring for me but I think I must go this route. 
Unfortunately, I have never set up a web server to do this, which I assume I 
will need to do. Does this add-on/plugin have basic instructions for getting 
that side up and running?

Bob S


> On Jun 6, 2017, at 13:16 , Andre Garzia via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> DB Lib (andregarzia/projects/dblib) is a minimalistic database library for
> LiveCode that works on Desktop and Mobile and allows you to build
> database-savvy apps without writing SQL directly.


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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

[Heather Laine via use-livecode]

Hm... lol. Well Ben stayed with us for a good 8 years, and moved on to spread 
his wings a couple of years ago. As Mark said, he still works for us part time. 
You might even have met him at LiveCode events since he moved on.

Staff changes happen! Not perhaps all that often at LiveCode, people by and 
large seem to like it here and stay, but there is a (moderately) regular 
turnover. It's not exactly news. 

Warm Regards,

Heather
(who is now the longest surviving staff member other than Kevin)

Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
LiveCode Ltd
www.livecode.com



> On 7 Jun 2017, at 17:00, AndyP via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Worrying in view that Dr Peter Brett recently left as well.
> 
> His twitter post here>
> https://twitter.com/PeterTBBrett/status/849958594745438208
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Andy Piddock 
> 
> 
> My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. 
> 
> TinyIDE a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode
> TinyIDE 
> 
> 
> Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk  
> 
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> finder.
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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Agreed Jacque. And I found myself asking... myself... what business is it of 
mine the internal workings of Livecode? 

Bob S


> On Jun 7, 2017, at 09:39 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> All the staff changes were discussed in the last blog post. It isn't a 
> secret. Staff move on and are replaced.
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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

All the staff changes were discussed in the last blog post. It isn't a 
secret. Staff move on and are replaced.


--
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On June 7, 2017 11:31:42 AM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
 wrote:



On 2017-06-07 18:00, AndyP via use-livecode wrote:

Worrying in view that Dr Peter Brett recently left as well.


As I said above:

"Ben still works for us part-time - so I'd describe that as a
non-'event'."

In any case, I'm not sure why it is 'worrying' (especially as we have
had two staff join us recently).

What would be worrying is if companies started locking their employees
up in chains and never let them leave! ( It would also be illegal, in
the UK at least ;) ).

Warmest Regards,

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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

[Mark Waddingham via use-livecode]

On 2017-06-07 18:00, AndyP via use-livecode wrote:

Worrying in view that Dr Peter Brett recently left as well.


As I said above:

"Ben still works for us part-time - so I'd describe that as a 
non-'event'."


In any case, I'm not sure why it is 'worrying' (especially as we have 
had two staff join us recently).


What would be worrying is if companies started locking their employees 
up in chains and never let them leave! ( It would also be illegal, in 
the UK at least ;) ).


Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

[AndyP via use-livecode]

Worrying in view that Dr Peter Brett recently left as well.

His twitter post here>
https://twitter.com/PeterTBBrett/status/849958594745438208
  








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Re: Regex help...

[Robert Brenstein via use-livecode]

If the number of comma-delimited and tab-delimited elements is always 
the same, I would replace all commas with tabs and then filter to have 
item x having value of y.


Robert

On 5 Jun 2017, at 15:23, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:


Thank you Thierry and everyone else.

I should have realized that I couldn't do this entirely with regex due
to the need to compare the number values. It was a long day yesterday
and my brain just wasn't in full gear.

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Re: 64 bit desktop apps

[Colin Holgate via use-livecode]

I’m running High Sierra, the one before the 32 bit ban I guess, and it can 
still run LiveCode 5 ok.



> On Jun 7, 2017, at 4:41 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 2017-06-07 17:05, Charles Szasz via use-livecode wrote:
>> Apple announced that the next MacOS operation system after High Sierra
>> will only support 64 bit desktop apps. What version of LC supports
>> creating 64 bit apps?
> 
> LiveCode 8.x onwards.
> 
> Currently the IDE runs in 32-bit mode by default (you can change this by 
> using 'Get Info' on the LiveCode app bundle, and unchecking the box).
> 
> The SB by default builds for 32-bit mode, but you can choose 64-bit by 
> checking the appropriate box.
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> 
> Mark.
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Re: 64 bit desktop apps

[Mark Waddingham via use-livecode]

On 2017-06-07 17:05, Charles Szasz via use-livecode wrote:

Apple announced that the next MacOS operation system after High Sierra
will only support 64 bit desktop apps. What version of LC supports
creating 64 bit apps?


LiveCode 8.x onwards.

Currently the IDE runs in 32-bit mode by default (you can change this by 
using 'Get Info' on the LiveCode app bundle, and unchecking the box).


The SB by default builds for 32-bit mode, but you can choose 64-bit by 
checking the appropriate box.


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[ANN] Release 8.1.4

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Dear List Members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.4 Stable. By
"Stable", we mean that no reported regressions have been introduced in
8.1.4, compared to the previous Stable release.

LiveCode 8.1.4 contains 87 extra bug fixes and new features, compared to
LiveCode 8.1.3.

In LiveCode 8.1.4 we believe we have finally managed to close a can of
worms, related to crashes when deleting objects under specific
circumstances. Moreover, several regression bugs that were introduced in
previous releases of LiveCode 8.x have now been fixed, so that makes
LiveCode 8.1.4 very stable. Last but not least, LiveCode 8.1.4 includes
support for building iOS apps using the latest iOS SDKs, included in Xcode
8.3.x.

You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via
the automatic updater.

Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at
http://quality.livecode.com/

Warmest regards,
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64 bit desktop apps

[Charles Szasz via use-livecode]

Apple announced that the next MacOS operation system after High Sierra will 
only support 64 bit desktop apps. What version of LC supports creating 64 bit 
apps?


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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

[Mark Waddingham via use-livecode]

On 2017-06-07 15:21, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:

Interestingly enough this event, and
others, do not seem to be reflected
currently on the LiveCode website.


Ben still works for us part-time - so I'd describe that as a 
non-'event'.


In regards to the other 'events' you refer to - I'll make sure updating 
the team page is on our website todo list.


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Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

Interestingly enough this event, and
others, do not seem to be reflected
currently on the LiveCode website.

Richmond.
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LC 8.1.4 rc3 getting the rect of the videoPlayer returns different coords as in rc2

[Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode]

Hello,

 

I am resizing the videoPlayer object by script and export snapshots of the
videoPlayer.

In 8.1.2 or 8.1.3 I had to  adapt my scipt for placing and resizing the
videoplayer for Mac only by the hight of the menubar (before LC 8 the code
was on Win and Mac the same)

Now with LC 8.1.4 rc3 I again have to adapt the script for getting the rect
for the snapshot of the videoPlayer on Mac only by the hight of the manubar.

Has anybody encountered similar differences in getting rects depending on
the menubar? Is this wanted? Has anything changed in calculating the hight
of the menubar on Mac?

Tiemo

 

 

 

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