Re: annoying property editor

2017-06-14 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 06/14/2017 10:42 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: It should stay where it’s put. Please open a report if you have a recipe. Will do. The recipe's pretty simple, though. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing

Re: annoying property editor

2017-06-14 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 15 Jun 2017, at 3:39 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > Is anyone else annoyed by the fact that the LC9 property editor keeps > relocating to the center of the screen? > > I open the property editor, make an edit, leave the property editor open

annoying property editor

2017-06-14 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
Is anyone else annoyed by the fact that the LC9 property editor keeps relocating to the center of the screen? I open the property editor, make an edit, leave the property editor open and move it out of the way so that I can move a different object or select it to edit, and the property editor

Re: can't edit...while it is executing

2017-06-14 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 15 Jun 2017, at 10:28 am, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > on mouseUp > repeat >answer "Hi" > end repeat > end mouseUp Lol… that I would abort in my head before it enters the script editor ;-) Cheers Monte

Re: Cliptorect property

2017-06-14 Thread Bruce Humphrey via use-livecode
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Re: can't edit...while it is executing

2017-06-14 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Richard: > Any way to abort this?: > on mouseUp >repeat > answer "Hi" >end repeat > end mouseUp There is a good chance of succeeding if you hold down Enter continually to actuate the dialog OK while clicking rapidly on the toolbar Property Inspector icon. If the Inspector

Re: OT: Spelling "windows" with a P (Was: [ANN] Release 8.1.5 RC-1)

2017-06-14 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
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Re: can't edit...while it is executing

2017-06-14 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mark Wieder wrote: On 06/14/2017 04:48 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: >> Aborting the script usually works for me when this happens. > > Yeah. I'd love it if that worked for me too. > Or do you have some special way of aborting the script? Any way to abort this?: on mouseUp repeat

OT: Spelling "windows" with a P (Was: [ANN] Release 8.1.5 RC-1)

2017-06-14 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 6/14/17 6:24 PM, Phil Davis via use-livecode wrote: On 6/14/17 4:06 PM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote: But on that subject, which I never imagined seeing here, I would advise males to pee in the most manly way possible TMI... for me it's triggering that scene in "About Schmidt".

Re: can't edit...while it is executing

2017-06-14 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 06/14/2017 04:48 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: Aborting the script usually works for me when this happens. Yeah. I'd love it if that worked for me too. Or do you have some special way of aborting the script? Mine is "kill -9". -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com

Re: can't edit...while it is executing

2017-06-14 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 06/14/2017 04:43 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: The traditional xTalk solution for this is Cmd-./Ctrl-,. which safely exits to top with a notification the the script was aborted. I of course tried all the usual escape routes: ctl-., ctl-break, escape, setting the traceabort to

Re: "clipsToRect" property

2017-06-14 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 15 Jun 2017, at 4:19 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > I like that, but for the "English" description. It's too late to change > clipsToRect since it's already in the engine, but I'd go for "Visible > rectangle" or "Set visible rectangle".

Re: can't edit...while it is executing

2017-06-14 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
Aborting the script usually works for me when this happens. > On 15 Jun 2017, at 7:31 am, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > Did we ever figure out how to deal with the "can't with this > script while it is executing" problem? > > I've had to force-quit

Re: can't edit...while it is executing

2017-06-14 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mark Wieder wrote: Did we ever figure out how to deal with the "can't with this script while it is executing" problem? I've had to force-quit the IDE several times over the last few days due to a script error. My own errors, but this halt-and-catch-fire mode prevents me from correcting them

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

2017-06-14 Thread Devin Asay via use-livecode
On Jun 14, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Devin Asay via use-livecode > wrote: As one who teaches newbies LiveCode, I am a proponent of property labels that are both succinct and descriptive, while not straying too far from the actual

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5 RC-1

2017-06-14 Thread Phil Davis via use-livecode
On 6/14/17 4:06 PM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote: But on that subject, which I never imagined seeing here, I would advise males to pee in the most manly way possible TMI... for me it's triggering that scene in "About Schmidt". Moving on now. Phil -- Phil Davis

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5 RC-1

2017-06-14 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Richmond: > The whole discussion is becoming a "pane" and I for one am "board". > "a real Windows machine" is almost as meaningful as phrases such as > "real men stand up to pee". It was clear; you confirmed your own understanding in that very first post, so I saw the objection as more of an

Can't Sign App

2017-06-14 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Using LC 8.1.3 (or 8.1.5 or 9.0.0) if I attempt to sign my standalone application using the instructions found here: http://revolution.screenstepslive.com/s/revolution/m/10695/l/112706-signing-an-application, I get this error: /Users/me/Desktop/MyGreatApp.app: code object is not signed at all

can't edit...while it is executing

2017-06-14 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
Did we ever figure out how to deal with the "can't with this script while it is executing" problem? I've had to force-quit the IDE several times over the last few days due to a script error. My own errors, but this halt-and-catch-fire mode prevents me from correcting them without killing and

Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship

2017-06-14 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
I think that Oracle Media Objects was based on the Plus code, which also had its own life as a Windows only tool. I programmed a 12 CD-ROM series in OMO, though we didn’t get around doing the last two. You can still buy those CD-ROMs, but I think thy wouldn’t work on a modern OS:

Re: "clipsToRect" property

2017-06-14 Thread Jim Lambert via use-livecode
‘Visible rectangle’ I can see that. ;) Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: Mac PPC

2017-06-14 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
If i didn't have things that I don't want to do without on windows, I would go solely linux. Alas i have to admit that even at my age.. I still play games that are only available on windows. (some could be shoehorned into linux in various ways but games can be very problematic) On Wed, Jun 14,

Re: Mac PPC

2017-06-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
It never ceases to amaze me how I manage to run the latest LC release via Xubuntu on a Pentium IV that is significantly older than my MacMini PPC and that is significantly older than my Polycarbonate Intel iMac: I am running LC 9 dp 6 on the Pentium IV . . . . admittedly this says buckets

Re: Mac PPC

2017-06-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Thanks! that's exactly the info I needed. Richmond. On 6/14/17 8:31 pm, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote: I have a little macbook g4 running 10.4.11 and after going through the release notes, chose livecode 6.5.2 (the last version of lc that specifically says it will work with a macos that

Re: "For Young Coders"

2017-06-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
On 6/14/17 8:27 pm, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: Now imagine an LC toy in the app store. Oh, I'm not going to bother waiting for that; the kids have all been issued with a CD-ROM containing (among other stuff) a BBC emulator for the 3 dominant OSes and likewise LiveCode 8.1.4. On

Re: "clipsToRect" property

2017-06-14 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 6/14/17 1:51 AM, Quentin Long via use-livecode wrote: My 2 cents' worth: Rather than "clipsToRect", call the property "visibleRect". Because that's what it is—it's the rectangular area of the screen, within which the specified portion of the group is visible. I like that, but for the

Re: Mac PPC

2017-06-14 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
I have a little macbook g4 running 10.4.11 and after going through the release notes, chose livecode 6.5.2 (the last version of lc that specifically says it will work with a macos that old) the machine has 1.25g of mem, and runs like a champ. On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Richmond Mathewson

Re: "For Young Coders"

2017-06-14 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Now imagine an LC toy in the app store. On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I don't know. > > BUT . . . > > Today I had a classroom of 9-10 year olds doing simple Mathematics with > BBC BASIC in BBC Micro emulators > > [

Re: Mac PPC

2017-06-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Thanks Kay C Lan, but I am after some slightly more obscure info: the last version working on Mac OS 10.4.11 as my MacMini PPC does not have suffiecient RAM to cope with 10.5.8 (and I am NOT going to pay for more RAM for a machine that spends most of its time running a variety of emulators: BBC

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5 RC-1

2017-06-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
The whole discussion is becoming a "pane" and I for one am "board". "a real Windows machine" is almost as meaningful as phrases such as "real men stand up to pee". Richmond. On 6/14/17 7:33 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 06/14/2017 08:38 AM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote:

Re: "For Young Coders"

2017-06-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I don't know. BUT . . . Today I had a classroom of 9-10 year olds doing simple Mathematics with BBC BASIC in BBC Micro emulators [ http://b-em.bbcmicro.com/ ] and one kid really "made my day" when he said, "Wow, this is serious programming, not like that baby Scratch thing." Research

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5 RC-1

2017-06-14 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 06/14/2017 08:38 AM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: What does "a real Windows machine" mean? I'm not sure whether that would be using X, or POKEing addresses 32 to 35 on and

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5 RC-1

2017-06-14 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > What does "a real Windows machine" mean? > I'm not sure whether that would be using X, or POKEing addresses 32 to 35 on and Apple ][ to define the scrolling window . . . -- Dr.

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

2017-06-14 Thread Devin Asay via use-livecode
Great discussion! > On Jun 14, 2017, at 1:20 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 2017-06-14 02:18, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: >> I think this is one of those cases where the default behaviour was a >> bad idea. Or perhaps was

Re: ANN: Widget Wizard

2017-06-14 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
Thanks for sharing Mark. I still want to build one from scratch.. but after thatI'm going to use your wizard. well done, all the best. On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:37 AM, AndyP via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Fantastic, nice idea, thanks for sharing.

Re: "For Young Coders"

2017-06-14 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 06/13/2017 10:26 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: Death By Scratch: https://community.tes.com/threads/death-by-scratch.670594/ !!! Is that *the* Rick Rubin? -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: LCGlobal

2017-06-14 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
This was such a cool idea. On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > https://livecode.com/global/#sessions > > (much more than 1 hour for tomorrow :-) > > > On 14/06/2017 14:16, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > >> Do we have a

Re: LCGlobal

2017-06-14 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
https://livecode.com/global/#sessions (much more than 1 hour for tomorrow :-) On 14/06/2017 14:16, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: Do we have a schedule? I don't seem to have one. I know we have a session, tomorrow, but I don't know if that's just 1 hour or what.

LCGlobal

2017-06-14 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Do we have a schedule? I don't seem to have one. I know we have a session, tomorrow, but I don't know if that's just 1 hour or what. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few

Re: I need help with building standalones ! :-)

2017-06-14 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
Thanks Panos. (Now I need to review how I do my search for pre-existing bugs - clearly not well enough :-) -- Alex. On 14/06/2017 14:06, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: Hi Alex, this is bug in LiveCode 9.0 DP-6, and it will be fixed in LiveCode 9.0 DP-7:

Re: I need help with building standalones ! :-)

2017-06-14 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi Alex, this is bug in LiveCode 9.0 DP-6, and it will be fixed in LiveCode 9.0 DP-7: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19429 Best, Panos -- On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I went back to an earlier version

Re: I need help with building standalones ! :-)

2017-06-14 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
I went back to an earlier version (8.1.2 community) and everything works as expected. Bug 19865 submitted. -- Alex. On 13/06/2017 23:57, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: Normally I don't build standalones - I simply either run the stack in the IDE, or via stackrunner, so I'm in

Re: ANN: Widget Wizard

2017-06-14 Thread AndyP via use-livecode
Hi Mark, Fantastic, nice idea, thanks for sharing. - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. TinyIDE a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode TinyIDE Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk PointandSee is a FREE simple but

Re: Mac PPC

2017-06-14 Thread Kay C Lan via use-livecode
Can confirm that LC 6.6.5 will run on a PPC running Leopard 10.5.8. On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: > 6.6.x I think was the last version to support PPC - 10.4+. > > Mark > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 13 Jun 2017, at 08:32,

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

2017-06-14 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-06-14 02:18, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: I think this is one of those cases where the default behaviour was a bad idea. Or perhaps was implemented before groups were used for much other than backgrounds. Other objects we need to set to the formatted width/height so why are

Re: "clipsToRect" property

2017-06-14 Thread Quentin Long via use-livecode
My 2 cents' worth: Rather than "clipsToRect", call the property "visibleRect". Because that's what it is—it's the rectangular area of the screen, within which the specified portion of the group is visible. "Bewitched" + "Charlie's Angels" - Charlie = "At Arm's Length" Read the webcomic

Re: HTML5 deployment: progress comes into sight

2017-06-14 Thread hh via use-livecode
Yet another creative contribution to this thread: SVGtoPNG_HTML5 This is a HTML5 standalone that is based on stacks that Jonathan and I made, see livecodeshare.runrev.com or 'Sample stacks' (the stacks use a clever conversion idea of Jonathan). Launch SVGtoPNG_HTML5 from here: (EU)

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

2017-06-14 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 14 Jun 2017, at 3:21 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > I wonder why we have both lockUpdates and boundingRect. They seem very > similar. Lock updates is intended to avoid recalculation of group properties when child object properties are