Re: annoying property editor
I don't see that on OS X, for what it's worth. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On June 15, 2017 12:42:05 AM Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: Is anyone else annoyed by the fact that the LC9 property editor keeps relocating to the center of the screen? I open the property editor, make an edit, leave the property editor open and move it out of the way so that I can move a different object or select it to edit, and the property editor pops back to center screen, usually right on top of the object I'm trying to move. Is this a bug or did someone actually think this was a good idea? -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: annoying property editor
On 06/14/2017 10:42 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: It should stay where it’s put. Please open a report if you have a recipe. Will do. The recipe's pretty simple, though. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: annoying property editor
> On 15 Jun 2017, at 3:39 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > Is anyone else annoyed by the fact that the LC9 property editor keeps > relocating to the center of the screen? > > I open the property editor, make an edit, leave the property editor open and > move it out of the way so that I can move a different object or select it to > edit, and the property editor pops back to center screen, usually right on > top of the object I'm trying to move. > > Is this a bug or did someone actually think this was a good idea? It should stay where it’s put. Please open a report if you have a recipe. Cheers Monte ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
annoying property editor
Is anyone else annoyed by the fact that the LC9 property editor keeps relocating to the center of the screen? I open the property editor, make an edit, leave the property editor open and move it out of the way so that I can move a different object or select it to edit, and the property editor pops back to center screen, usually right on top of the object I'm trying to move. Is this a bug or did someone actually think this was a good idea? -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: can't edit...while it is executing
> On 15 Jun 2017, at 10:28 am, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > on mouseUp > repeat >answer "Hi" > end repeat > end mouseUp Lol… that I would abort in my head before it enters the script editor ;-) Cheers Monte ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Cliptorect property
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Re: can't edit...while it is executing
Richard: > Any way to abort this?: > on mouseUp >repeat > answer "Hi" >end repeat > end mouseUp There is a good chance of succeeding if you hold down Enter continually to actuate the dialog OK while clicking rapidly on the toolbar Property Inspector icon. If the Inspector appears, you can use it to select your button, edit the script, add a breakpoint, "OK" and then stop the script. It's also possible to open the Message Box this way or (for slightly different code) turn off messages. Depending on the exact code and situation it may take a while to get back control but it's nice when it works! BTW I'm on Windows, real Windows that is. :) I think I've used this technique on Mac too but let me know if it works. Best wishes, Curry Kenworthy Custom Software Development http://curryk.com/consulting/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: Spelling "windows" with a P (Was: [ANN] Release 8.1.5 RC-1)
TIL... -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: can't edit...while it is executing
Mark Wieder wrote: On 06/14/2017 04:48 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: >> Aborting the script usually works for me when this happens. > > Yeah. I'd love it if that worked for me too. > Or do you have some special way of aborting the script? Any way to abort this?: on mouseUp repeat answer "Hi" end repeat end mouseUp -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
OT: Spelling "windows" with a P (Was: [ANN] Release 8.1.5 RC-1)
On 6/14/17 6:24 PM, Phil Davis via use-livecode wrote: On 6/14/17 4:06 PM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote: But on that subject, which I never imagined seeing here, I would advise males to pee in the most manly way possible TMI... for me it's triggering that scene in "About Schmidt". Moving on now. In a moment. I would just like to point out that women too can pee cleanly standing up, and back when most women still wore skirts there were public toilets shaped to allow it. In case that info distresses the he-men out there, take solace in the fact that we can't write our names. NOW moving on... -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: can't edit...while it is executing
On 06/14/2017 04:48 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: Aborting the script usually works for me when this happens. Yeah. I'd love it if that worked for me too. Or do you have some special way of aborting the script? Mine is "kill -9". -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: can't edit...while it is executing
On 06/14/2017 04:43 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: The traditional xTalk solution for this is Cmd-./Ctrl-,. which safely exits to top with a notification the the script was aborted. I of course tried all the usual escape routes: ctl-., ctl-break, escape, setting the traceabort to true... I think the latest hangup was a result of jsonToArray choking on a badly-formed json object, so maybe I can blame mergJson for this, but even so it seems that there's some flag that gets set in the engine and I haven't figured out how to turn it loose. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: "clipsToRect" property
> On 15 Jun 2017, at 4:19 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > I like that, but for the "English" description. It's too late to change > clipsToRect since it's already in the engine, but I'd go for "Visible > rectangle" or "Set visible rectangle". There’s a lot of different color bike sheds here ;-) I would find it confusing if `Visible rectangle` is the label for a boolean property. Cheers Monte ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: can't edit...while it is executing
Aborting the script usually works for me when this happens. > On 15 Jun 2017, at 7:31 am, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > Did we ever figure out how to deal with the "can't with this > script while it is executing" problem? > > I've had to force-quit the IDE several times over the last few days due to a > script error. My own errors, but this halt-and-catch-fire mode prevents me > from correcting them without killing and resurrecting LC. Fortunately I've > gotten into the habit of saving every time I edit anything, so I haven't lost > any code, but I'm annoyed that the system is so unstable that I have to do > that. > > -- > Mark Wieder > ahsoftw...@gmail.com > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: can't edit...while it is executing
Mark Wieder wrote: Did we ever figure out how to deal with the "can't with this script while it is executing" problem? I've had to force-quit the IDE several times over the last few days due to a script error. My own errors, but this halt-and-catch-fire mode prevents me from correcting them without killing and resurrecting LC. Fortunately I've gotten into the habit of saving every time I edit anything, so I haven't lost any code, but I'm annoyed that the system is so unstable that I have to do that. The traditional xTalk solution for this is Cmd-./Ctrl-,. which safely exits to top with a notification the the script was aborted. It worked that way in HC, SC, and IIRC every other xTalk I've used, even in the middle of a loop calling "answer". This escape is partially implemented in LiveCode, but there are cases (like calling "answer" in a loop) where it isn't yet. It would be a VERY useful addition to this xTalk dialect to have feature completion on this. I'm guessing there's something about the LC engine that makes this harder to do than in any other xTalk. I don't know what that challenge is. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)
On Jun 14, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Devin Asay via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: As one who teaches newbies LiveCode, I am a proponent of property labels that are both succinct and descriptive, while not straying too far from the actual property name. There are obvious exceptions (destroyStack, anyone?). But in this case, maybe something like: Clip child controls to rect Strikes a good balance between similarity to the property name and giving a better idea of what the property does. I went with Clip child controls to rect. Join the discussion on the Pull Request on Github if you think it needs massaging. https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/pull/1632 Devin Devin Asay Director Office of Digital Humanities Brigham Young University ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5 RC-1
On 6/14/17 4:06 PM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote: But on that subject, which I never imagined seeing here, I would advise males to pee in the most manly way possible TMI... for me it's triggering that scene in "About Schmidt". Moving on now. Phil -- Phil Davis ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5 RC-1
Richmond: > The whole discussion is becoming a "pane" and I for one am "board". > "a real Windows machine" is almost as meaningful as phrases such as > "real men stand up to pee". It was clear; you confirmed your own understanding in that very first post, so I saw the objection as more of an attempt to signal virtue. If that helps anyone feel some self esteem, I'm glad. This machine was designed specifically for Windows, so the description is appropriate. And maybe more relevant to testing LiveCode 815 than standing to pee. But on that subject, which I never imagined seeing here, I would advise males to pee in the most manly way possible during coding breaks. Stand proudly, preferably sporting a Molon Labe T-shirt and oversized belt buckle with a rebel design. Extra points for carrying around a bowie knife or a LiveCode powered mobile web server. Use this moment to celebrate the masculine heritage that only real men can fully experience and embody as they pee. Then go back and dominate that code like a true alpha! Does that seem like we're getting off track a little? Oh yes, I was saying that this LC version is working much better on my machine than the previous two. It makes an efficient 8 workflow possible, and that is much appreciated. Thought the feedback might be useful. I usually don't install the RCs, but I'm glad I tried this one, so don't hesitate - it truly makes life easier, at least on - ahem - Windows. Best wishes, Curry Kenworthy Real Windows machine Custom Software Development http://curryk.com/consulting/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Can't Sign App
Using LC 8.1.3 (or 8.1.5 or 9.0.0) if I attempt to sign my standalone application using the instructions found here: http://revolution.screenstepslive.com/s/revolution/m/10695/l/112706-signing-an-application, I get this error: /Users/me/Desktop/MyGreatApp.app: code object is not signed at all In subcomponent: /Users/me/Desktop/MyGreatApp.app/Contents/MacOS/Externals/revbrowser.bundle What gives? Shouldn’t these components come pre-signed? Do I need to sign LC components as well? (I tried and it failed: “/Users/me/Desktop/MyGreatApp.app.app/Contents/MacOS/Externals/revbrowser.bundle: resource fork, Finder information, or similar detritus not allowed”) Any ideas on what I’m doing wrong? -Dan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
can't edit...while it is executing
Did we ever figure out how to deal with the "can't with this script while it is executing" problem? I've had to force-quit the IDE several times over the last few days due to a script error. My own errors, but this halt-and-catch-fire mode prevents me from correcting them without killing and resurrecting LC. Fortunately I've gotten into the habit of saving every time I edit anything, so I haven't lost any code, but I'm annoyed that the system is so unstable that I have to do that. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship
I think that Oracle Media Objects was based on the Plus code, which also had its own life as a Windows only tool. I programmed a 12 CD-ROM series in OMO, though we didn’t get around doing the last two. You can still buy those CD-ROMs, but I think thy wouldn’t work on a modern OS: https://www.amazon.com/Our-Secret-Century-Archival-Marketers/dp/155940/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1497473493&sr=1-3 > On Jun 13, 2017, at 5:04 PM, james--- via use-livecode > wrote: > > Goodness, I am not sure if it is a good idea to remember (sequence may be > off.) > > HyperCard > Supercard > Director > IShell (as well as the Apple technology it was based on, but whose name I > forget..) > Oracle Media Objects > Metropolis (I really like this) > Meta card > Revolution > .long sojourn "silver surfing" into the land of 4D > LiveCode > > James > >> On 13 Jun 2017, at 08:03, Jeff Reynolds via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Sigh, me too I guess. I now see how long it has been (40 years) thinking >> back... >> >> HyperCard >> Supercard >> Plus >> Oracle Media Objects >> Toolbook >> MetaCard >> Revolution >> Livecode >> >> Jeff > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: "clipsToRect" property
‘Visible rectangle’ I can see that. ;) Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mac PPC
If i didn't have things that I don't want to do without on windows, I would go solely linux. Alas i have to admit that even at my age.. I still play games that are only available on windows. (some could be shoehorned into linux in various ways but games can be very problematic) On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > It never ceases to amaze me how I manage to run the latest LC release via > Xubuntu > on a Pentium IV that is significantly older than my MacMini PPC and that > is significantly > older than my Polycarbonate Intel iMac: > > I am running LC 9 dp 6 on the Pentium IV . . . . > > admittedly this says buckets about Apple's policy of forcing hardware > upgrades by > messing around with both their OS and their hardware and nothing about > LiveCode. > > This really does say something very positive indeed about Linux. > > Richmond. > > On 6/14/17 8:31 pm, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote: > >> I have a little macbook g4 running 10.4.11 and after going through the >> release notes, chose livecode 6.5.2 (the last version of lc that >> specifically says it will work with a macos that old) the machine has >> 1.25g of mem, and runs like a champ. >> >> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks Kay C Lan, but I am after some slightly more obscure info: >>> >>> the last version working on Mac OS 10.4.11 as my MacMini PPC does not >>> have suffiecient RAM to cope with 10.5.8 (and I am NOT going to pay for >>> more RAM for a machine that spends most of its time running a variety of >>> emulators: BBC Micro, Amiga and Commodore). >>> >>> Richmond. >>> >>> On 6/14/17 10:24 am, Kay C Lan via use-livecode wrote: >>> >>> Can confirm that LC 6.6.5 will run on a PPC running Leopard 10.5.8. On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: 6.6.x I think was the last version to support PPC - 10.4+. > > Mark > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 13 Jun 2017, at 08:32, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >> I wonder (to save me trawling endlessly though release notes) if >> anyone can tell me the last LC version to run on Mac PPC? >> >> Richmond. >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >>> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mac PPC
It never ceases to amaze me how I manage to run the latest LC release via Xubuntu on a Pentium IV that is significantly older than my MacMini PPC and that is significantly older than my Polycarbonate Intel iMac: I am running LC 9 dp 6 on the Pentium IV . . . . admittedly this says buckets about Apple's policy of forcing hardware upgrades by messing around with both their OS and their hardware and nothing about LiveCode. This really does say something very positive indeed about Linux. Richmond. On 6/14/17 8:31 pm, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote: I have a little macbook g4 running 10.4.11 and after going through the release notes, chose livecode 6.5.2 (the last version of lc that specifically says it will work with a macos that old) the machine has 1.25g of mem, and runs like a champ. On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: Thanks Kay C Lan, but I am after some slightly more obscure info: the last version working on Mac OS 10.4.11 as my MacMini PPC does not have suffiecient RAM to cope with 10.5.8 (and I am NOT going to pay for more RAM for a machine that spends most of its time running a variety of emulators: BBC Micro, Amiga and Commodore). Richmond. On 6/14/17 10:24 am, Kay C Lan via use-livecode wrote: Can confirm that LC 6.6.5 will run on a PPC running Leopard 10.5.8. On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: 6.6.x I think was the last version to support PPC - 10.4+. Mark Sent from my iPhone On 13 Jun 2017, at 08:32, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: I wonder (to save me trawling endlessly though release notes) if anyone can tell me the last LC version to run on Mac PPC? Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mac PPC
Thanks! that's exactly the info I needed. Richmond. On 6/14/17 8:31 pm, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote: I have a little macbook g4 running 10.4.11 and after going through the release notes, chose livecode 6.5.2 (the last version of lc that specifically says it will work with a macos that old) the machine has 1.25g of mem, and runs like a champ. On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: Thanks Kay C Lan, but I am after some slightly more obscure info: the last version working on Mac OS 10.4.11 as my MacMini PPC does not have suffiecient RAM to cope with 10.5.8 (and I am NOT going to pay for more RAM for a machine that spends most of its time running a variety of emulators: BBC Micro, Amiga and Commodore). Richmond. On 6/14/17 10:24 am, Kay C Lan via use-livecode wrote: Can confirm that LC 6.6.5 will run on a PPC running Leopard 10.5.8. On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: 6.6.x I think was the last version to support PPC - 10.4+. Mark Sent from my iPhone On 13 Jun 2017, at 08:32, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: I wonder (to save me trawling endlessly though release notes) if anyone can tell me the last LC version to run on Mac PPC? Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: "For Young Coders"
On 6/14/17 8:27 pm, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: Now imagine an LC toy in the app store. Oh, I'm not going to bother waiting for that; the kids have all been issued with a CD-ROM containing (among other stuff) a BBC emulator for the 3 dominant OSes and likewise LiveCode 8.1.4. On Friday we'll be looking at strings in BASIC and "nibbling" bits from the LEFT, RIGHT and MID of strings. On Monday we'll look at loops. On Wednesday we'll look at branching (IF . . . THEN). Next we'll start REPLICATING what we did in BASIC in LiveCode HOWEVER, many of the kids have either Android phones or Android tablets and did go "Wow" and "Cowabunga" (OK, that last one's a lie; the Bulgarian equivalent) when they saw Beebdroid on a couple of Android tablets I have: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beebdroid the only slight negative thing about it is that one cannot save programs. So: Yesss, a cut-down version (I've banged on with that phrase quiet a lot for a long time) for tablest would be "rather jolly". Richmond. On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: I don't know. BUT . . . Today I had a classroom of 9-10 year olds doing simple Mathematics with BBC BASIC in BBC Micro emulators [ http://b-em.bbcmicro.com/ ] and one kid really "made my day" when he said, "Wow, this is serious programming, not like that baby Scratch thing." Research seems to suggest that while children rapidly become adept at assembling sub-Super Mario type games in Scratch and related block-coding things the theory that they will easily transition from that to programming-qua-programming is not true owing to they not having got the simple stuff of: constants, variables, strings, looping and branching under their belts in a readily transferrable form. Richmond. On 6/14/17 5:53 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 06/13/2017 10:26 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: Death By Scratch: https://community.tes.com/thre ads/death-by-scratch.670594/ !!! Is that *the* Rick Rubin? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: "clipsToRect" property
On 6/14/17 1:51 AM, Quentin Long via use-livecode wrote: My 2 cents' worth: Rather than "clipsToRect", call the property "visibleRect". Because that's what it is—it's the rectangular area of the screen, within which the specified portion of the group is visible. I like that, but for the "English" description. It's too late to change clipsToRect since it's already in the engine, but I'd go for "Visible rectangle" or "Set visible rectangle". -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mac PPC
I have a little macbook g4 running 10.4.11 and after going through the release notes, chose livecode 6.5.2 (the last version of lc that specifically says it will work with a macos that old) the machine has 1.25g of mem, and runs like a champ. On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Thanks Kay C Lan, but I am after some slightly more obscure info: > > the last version working on Mac OS 10.4.11 as my MacMini PPC does not > have suffiecient RAM to cope with 10.5.8 (and I am NOT going to pay for > more RAM for a machine that spends most of its time running a variety of > emulators: BBC Micro, Amiga and Commodore). > > Richmond. > > On 6/14/17 10:24 am, Kay C Lan via use-livecode wrote: > >> Can confirm that LC 6.6.5 will run on a PPC running Leopard 10.5.8. >> >> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >>> 6.6.x I think was the last version to support PPC - 10.4+. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 13 Jun 2017, at 08:32, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: I wonder (to save me trawling endlessly though release notes) if anyone can tell me the last LC version to run on Mac PPC? Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: "For Young Coders"
Now imagine an LC toy in the app store. On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I don't know. > > BUT . . . > > Today I had a classroom of 9-10 year olds doing simple Mathematics with > BBC BASIC in BBC Micro emulators > > [ http://b-em.bbcmicro.com/ ] > > and one kid really "made my day" when he said, "Wow, this is serious > programming, > not like that baby Scratch thing." > > Research seems to suggest that while children rapidly become adept at > assembling sub-Super Mario type > games in Scratch and related block-coding things the theory that they will > easily transition from that to > programming-qua-programming is not true owing to they not having got the > simple stuff of: > > constants, variables, strings, looping and branching > > under their belts in a readily transferrable form. > > Richmond. > > On 6/14/17 5:53 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: > >> On 06/13/2017 10:26 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: >> >> Death By Scratch: https://community.tes.com/thre >>> ads/death-by-scratch.670594/ >>> >> >> !!! Is that *the* Rick Rubin? >> >> > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mac PPC
Thanks Kay C Lan, but I am after some slightly more obscure info: the last version working on Mac OS 10.4.11 as my MacMini PPC does not have suffiecient RAM to cope with 10.5.8 (and I am NOT going to pay for more RAM for a machine that spends most of its time running a variety of emulators: BBC Micro, Amiga and Commodore). Richmond. On 6/14/17 10:24 am, Kay C Lan via use-livecode wrote: Can confirm that LC 6.6.5 will run on a PPC running Leopard 10.5.8. On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: 6.6.x I think was the last version to support PPC - 10.4+. Mark Sent from my iPhone On 13 Jun 2017, at 08:32, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: I wonder (to save me trawling endlessly though release notes) if anyone can tell me the last LC version to run on Mac PPC? Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5 RC-1
The whole discussion is becoming a "pane" and I for one am "board". "a real Windows machine" is almost as meaningful as phrases such as "real men stand up to pee". Richmond. On 6/14/17 7:33 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 06/14/2017 08:38 AM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: What does "a real Windows machine" mean? I'm not sure whether that would be using X, or POKEing addresses 32 to 35 on and Apple ][ to define the scrolling window . . . Possibly double-paned instead of boarded-up. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: "For Young Coders"
I don't know. BUT . . . Today I had a classroom of 9-10 year olds doing simple Mathematics with BBC BASIC in BBC Micro emulators [ http://b-em.bbcmicro.com/ ] and one kid really "made my day" when he said, "Wow, this is serious programming, not like that baby Scratch thing." Research seems to suggest that while children rapidly become adept at assembling sub-Super Mario type games in Scratch and related block-coding things the theory that they will easily transition from that to programming-qua-programming is not true owing to they not having got the simple stuff of: constants, variables, strings, looping and branching under their belts in a readily transferrable form. Richmond. On 6/14/17 5:53 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 06/13/2017 10:26 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: Death By Scratch: https://community.tes.com/threads/death-by-scratch.670594/ !!! Is that *the* Rick Rubin? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5 RC-1
On 06/14/2017 08:38 AM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: What does "a real Windows machine" mean? I'm not sure whether that would be using X, or POKEing addresses 32 to 35 on and Apple ][ to define the scrolling window . . . Possibly double-paned instead of boarded-up. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.5 RC-1
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > What does "a real Windows machine" mean? > I'm not sure whether that would be using X, or POKEing addresses 32 to 35 on and Apple ][ to define the scrolling window . . . -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)
Great discussion! > On Jun 14, 2017, at 1:20 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 2017-06-14 02:18, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: >> I think this is one of those cases where the default behaviour was a >> bad idea. Or perhaps was implemented before groups were used for much >> other than backgrounds. Other objects we need to set to the formatted >> width/height so why are groups special cased. Anyway, I would keep it >> simple and use `Clips to rect` so at least it’s easy to relate to the >> dictionary entry/property name. > > Notionally 'backgrounds' don't really need an extent - they should be card > sized - the difference being that controls are shared amongst several cards. > > Of course MetaCard generalized 'the background' to multiple backgrounds and > then groups (which aren't backgrounds) - however, as this was done > 'evolutionary', we've ended up with several properties for controlling them > which interact not-all-that-well. > > If you step back and look at the types of 'group' thing which actually get > used, then there are probably only three main ones: > > 1) Card sized layers which are not shared amongst cards (foreground groups, > if you like) > > 2) Card sized layers which are shared amongst cards (background groups, if > you like) > > 3) Groups with an explicit rect which are not shared amongst cards (control > groups, if you like) > > (Variants of these where the content rect is distinct from the visible rect > are also plausible - i.e. scrolling views). > > Currently (1) and (2) are catered for because groups (by default) resize to > the size of their controls; 'clipsToRect' caters for (3). > > I'd perhaps suggest that 'Clips to rect' or similar is a suitable name for > the property. Why? Because that is precisely what it does - all children are > clipped to the rect of the group, rather than the group's rect being resized > to accomodate them so they are not clipped. > As one who teaches newbies LiveCode, I am a proponent of property labels that are both succinct and descriptive, while not straying too far from the actual property name. There are obvious exceptions (destroyStack, anyone?). But in this case, maybe something like: Clip child controls to rect Strikes a good balance between similarity to the property name and giving a better idea of what the property does. Devin Devin Asay Director Office of Digital Humanities Brigham Young University ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ANN: Widget Wizard
Thanks for sharing Mark. I still want to build one from scratch.. but after thatI'm going to use your wizard. well done, all the best. On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:37 AM, AndyP via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Fantastic, nice idea, thanks for sharing. > > > > - > Andy Piddock > > > My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. > > TinyIDE a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode > TinyIDE > > > Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk > > PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour picker > / finder. > http://www.pointandsee.co.uk - made with LiveCode > -- > View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution. > 278305.n4.nabble.com/ANN-Widget-Wizard-tp4715780p4715814.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: "For Young Coders"
On 06/13/2017 10:26 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: Death By Scratch: https://community.tes.com/threads/death-by-scratch.670594/ !!! Is that *the* Rick Rubin? -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LCGlobal
This was such a cool idea. On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > https://livecode.com/global/#sessions > > (much more than 1 hour for tomorrow :-) > > > On 14/06/2017 14:16, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > >> Do we have a schedule? I don't seem to have one. I know we have a >> session, tomorrow, but I don't know if that's just 1 hour or what. >> >> > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LCGlobal
https://livecode.com/global/#sessions (much more than 1 hour for tomorrow :-) On 14/06/2017 14:16, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: Do we have a schedule? I don't seem to have one. I know we have a session, tomorrow, but I don't know if that's just 1 hour or what. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
LCGlobal
Do we have a schedule? I don't seem to have one. I know we have a session, tomorrow, but I don't know if that's just 1 hour or what. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I need help with building standalones ! :-)
Thanks Panos. (Now I need to review how I do my search for pre-existing bugs - clearly not well enough :-) -- Alex. On 14/06/2017 14:06, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: Hi Alex, this is bug in LiveCode 9.0 DP-6, and it will be fixed in LiveCode 9.0 DP-7: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19429 Best, Panos -- On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: I went back to an earlier version (8.1.2 community) and everything works as expected. Bug 19865 submitted. -- Alex. On 13/06/2017 23:57, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: Normally I don't build standalones - I simply either run the stack in the IDE, or via stackrunner, so I'm in 'unknown territory' here :-) The app works fine in the IDE, but when I build a standalone, when I do (full code below) put revOpenDatabase(:sqlite",tFileName) into temp I get the errorrevdberr,invalid database type I did manual inclusions, and have selected Database and the SQLite driver. Is there something else non-obvious I need to include ? Or any other suggestion ? Many thanks Alex. Actual code is (a modified version of Andre's DB Lib), and yes, you can see I've been flailing around trying to find out what's going on :-) switch gConfig["DB"]["Driver"] case "SQLite" localtFileName setthedefaultfoldertogDefaultFolder Log "defaultfolder is"&& thedefaultfolder Log "local files are"&& thedetailedfiles putgConfig["DB"]["Filename"] intotFileName Log "start to open SQLite"&& tFileName putrevOpenDatabase("sqlite", tFileName) intott Log "SQLite open gets "&& tt if tt isanumberthen getdbSetDefaultConnectionID(tt) Log "database started using"&& gConfig["DB"]["Driver"] && tt else Log "can't start DB"&& gConfig["DB"]["FileName"], 1 end if break ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I need help with building standalones ! :-)
Hi Alex, this is bug in LiveCode 9.0 DP-6, and it will be fixed in LiveCode 9.0 DP-7: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19429 Best, Panos -- On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I went back to an earlier version (8.1.2 community) and everything works > as expected. > > Bug 19865 submitted. > > -- Alex. > > > > On 13/06/2017 23:57, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: > >> >> Normally I don't build standalones - I simply either run the stack in the >> IDE, or via stackrunner, so I'm in 'unknown territory' here :-) >> >> The app works fine in the IDE, but when I build a standalone, when I do >> (full code below) >> >>put revOpenDatabase(:sqlite",tFileName) into temp >> >> I get the errorrevdberr,invalid database type >> >> I did manual inclusions, and have selected Database and the SQLite driver. >> >> Is there something else non-obvious I need to include ? >> >> Or any other suggestion ? >> >> Many thanks >> >> Alex. >> >> >> Actual code is (a modified version of Andre's DB Lib), and yes, you >> can see I've been flailing around trying to find out what's going on :-) >> >> >> switch gConfig["DB"]["Driver"] >> >> case "SQLite" >> >> localtFileName >> >> setthedefaultfoldertogDefaultFolder >> >> Log "defaultfolder is"&& thedefaultfolder >> >> Log "local files are"&& thedetailedfiles >> >> putgConfig["DB"]["Filename"] intotFileName >> >> Log "start to open SQLite"&& tFileName >> >> putrevOpenDatabase("sqlite", tFileName) intott >> >> Log "SQLite open gets "&& tt >> >> if tt isanumberthen >> >> getdbSetDefaultConnectionID(tt) >> >> Log "database started using"&& gConfig["DB"]["Driver"] && tt >> >> else >> >> Log "can't start DB"&& gConfig["DB"]["FileName"], 1 >> >> end if >> >> break >> >> >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: I need help with building standalones ! :-)
I went back to an earlier version (8.1.2 community) and everything works as expected. Bug 19865 submitted. -- Alex. On 13/06/2017 23:57, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: Normally I don't build standalones - I simply either run the stack in the IDE, or via stackrunner, so I'm in 'unknown territory' here :-) The app works fine in the IDE, but when I build a standalone, when I do (full code below) put revOpenDatabase(:sqlite",tFileName) into temp I get the errorrevdberr,invalid database type I did manual inclusions, and have selected Database and the SQLite driver. Is there something else non-obvious I need to include ? Or any other suggestion ? Many thanks Alex. Actual code is (a modified version of Andre's DB Lib), and yes, you can see I've been flailing around trying to find out what's going on :-) switch gConfig["DB"]["Driver"] case "SQLite" localtFileName setthedefaultfoldertogDefaultFolder Log "defaultfolder is"&& thedefaultfolder Log "local files are"&& thedetailedfiles putgConfig["DB"]["Filename"] intotFileName Log "start to open SQLite"&& tFileName putrevOpenDatabase("sqlite", tFileName) intott Log "SQLite open gets "&& tt if tt isanumberthen getdbSetDefaultConnectionID(tt) Log "database started using"&& gConfig["DB"]["Driver"] && tt else Log "can't start DB"&& gConfig["DB"]["FileName"], 1 end if break ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ANN: Widget Wizard
Hi Mark, Fantastic, nice idea, thanks for sharing. - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. TinyIDE a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode TinyIDE Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour picker / finder. http://www.pointandsee.co.uk - made with LiveCode -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ANN-Widget-Wizard-tp4715780p4715814.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mac PPC
Can confirm that LC 6.6.5 will run on a PPC running Leopard 10.5.8. On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: > 6.6.x I think was the last version to support PPC - 10.4+. > > Mark > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 13 Jun 2017, at 08:32, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> I wonder (to save me trawling endlessly though release notes) if >> anyone can tell me the last LC version to run on Mac PPC? >> >> Richmond. >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)
On 2017-06-14 02:18, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: I think this is one of those cases where the default behaviour was a bad idea. Or perhaps was implemented before groups were used for much other than backgrounds. Other objects we need to set to the formatted width/height so why are groups special cased. Anyway, I would keep it simple and use `Clips to rect` so at least it’s easy to relate to the dictionary entry/property name. Notionally 'backgrounds' don't really need an extent - they should be card sized - the difference being that controls are shared amongst several cards. Of course MetaCard generalized 'the background' to multiple backgrounds and then groups (which aren't backgrounds) - however, as this was done 'evolutionary', we've ended up with several properties for controlling them which interact not-all-that-well. If you step back and look at the types of 'group' thing which actually get used, then there are probably only three main ones: 1) Card sized layers which are not shared amongst cards (foreground groups, if you like) 2) Card sized layers which are shared amongst cards (background groups, if you like) 3) Groups with an explicit rect which are not shared amongst cards (control groups, if you like) (Variants of these where the content rect is distinct from the visible rect are also plausible - i.e. scrolling views). Currently (1) and (2) are catered for because groups (by default) resize to the size of their controls; 'clipsToRect' caters for (3). I'd perhaps suggest that 'Clips to rect' or similar is a suitable name for the property. Why? Because that is precisely what it does - all children are clipped to the rect of the group, rather than the group's rect being resized to accomodate them so they are not clipped. Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode