Re: [off]macbook model

[Terry Judd via use-livecode]

I’m a bit like you, I have an aging Air and will probably replace it soon with 
a 13 inch Macbook Pro (without the touch bar). Portability is important to me 
so 15 inch is too big to lug around (I had couple of Macbook Pro 15 inch models 
prior to the Air, so know what that’s like).

Screen real estate is an issue for me though and when I’m in the office, at 
work or home, I tend to hook into an external monitor (one is 21 inch the other 
23) and this makes things a lot easier for LC development – particularly for 
mobile stuff, where I often have LC and the simulator open or even two copies 
of LC.

If portability was a non-issue I’d be very tempted by a 27 inch iMac, but even 
at home I do find myself using my Air in different places for different reasons 
on quite a regular basis. That flexibility would be tough to give up.

Terry...

On 1/09/2017 11:53 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Mike Kerner via use-livecode" 
 wrote:

I'm thinking of replacing my 2011 macbook air with a new macbook, but I'm
torn on which one to go for.  Primary uses are going to be LC development
and browser goodness.
Before anyone chimes in about Windoze or LInux, I already have both of
those covered.
Things I'm wondering about:
1) Screen real estate:  Appearance aside, is there an advantage to retina?
Do I get more working space if I don't go to a 15" display?
2) I don't notice the speed of this box affecting much of anything.  For
development, does cpu really matter?  I suspect I'd do better with some
more memory, but has anyone noticed that it matters?
3) I can get a 27" 5k imac pretty nicely equipped for the same price as a
15" MBP.  Ignoring the portability issue, any thoughts?

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Re: [off]macbook model

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

I have a MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Late 2013). I have two locations that I 
work from. Each one has a 24” external monitor that I use as my main monitor. I 
also have a small 3Tb USB3 drive that I take with me. At each location I have a 
thunderbolt hub, display, and printer (they’re soo cheap) and backup drives. 
So, to switch from one location to another, all I have to do is pack up my 
laptop and the 3Tb drive. In a few minutes I’m set up at my new location.

I haven’t found a reason to upgrade yet.

Best,
Bill

> On Aug 31, 2017, at 6:53 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm thinking of replacing my 2011 macbook air with a new macbook, but I'm
> torn on which one to go for.  Primary uses are going to be LC development=


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Re: [off]macbook model

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

I have a late 2014 iMac (27" Retina) and really like the large screen.  I'm
just getting into LC, but the screen is great for having lots of stuff on
screen visible at once.  I do miss the portability a bit.  I make do with
Win laptops when away from my iMac.

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Jerry Jensen via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Comments inline below:
> > On Aug 31, 2017, at 6:53 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Things I'm wondering about:
> > 1) Screen real estate:  Appearance aside, is there an advantage to
> retina?
> > Do I get more working space if I don't go to a 15" display?
>
> My eyesight is not great. Retina doesn’t make that much difference to me,
> screen size DOES.
>
> > 2) I don't notice the speed of this box affecting much of anything.  For
> > development, does cpu really matter?  I suspect I'd do better with some
> > more memory, but has anyone noticed that it matters?
>
> If you don’t notice speed now, probably it won’t be an issue for you.
> Until you use a faster one. Then, you’ll want it. I am firmly of the camp
> that I don’t ever want to run out of RAM. I probably overdo it. New
> offerings from Apple seem to have enough, which was not always true. For
> development & browsing, for sure 8G minimum, 16G comfortable.
>
> > 3) I can get a 27" 5k imac pretty nicely equipped for the same price as a
> > 15" MBP.  Ignoring the portability issue, any thoughts?
>
> Portability is HUGE for me. I have 27” monitors most places I go, which
> may not be typical. If portability is not an issue for you, go for the
> iMac. That 5k screen is really beautiful, wrote the blind man .
>
> Take with salt!
> .Jerry
>
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Re: Does exporting a snapshot from a rect work on mobile?

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

What happens if you check the effective working screenrect in a 
keyboardActivated handler?


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On August 31, 2017 8:04:45 PM Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode 
 wrote:



Actually, never mind, that cannot be it.

I tried the follow script:

on mouseUp

create field "test height"

select after field "test height"

send getEWSR to me in 1 second

end mouseUp

on getEWSR

answer the effective working screenrect

delete field "test height"

end getEWSR


it still returns the same screenrect that I get without using "effect
working", which is the screenrect of the device.


Any other ideas?

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 8:51 PM,  wrote:


A question for Mark Waddingham...

Mark, in my app, in the place in question, the keyboard is activated by a
browser widget. Is it possible that this means it is not sending a signal
to LC to update the value of the effective working screen rect?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 31, 2017, at 8:27 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Yes - it makes me want to share whatever I can.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>>> On Aug 31, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 08/31/2017 07:33 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote:
>>> Just a random comment - having the CTO of LC directly answer our
questions is an incredible benefit to LC developers.
>>
>> I also want to give a shout out to the supportive community here. This
is by far the best online community I've ever had the honor of being a part
of. The level of paying things forward is outstanding.
>>
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Re: [off]macbook model

[Jerry Jensen via use-livecode]

Comments inline below:
> On Aug 31, 2017, at 6:53 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Things I'm wondering about:
> 1) Screen real estate:  Appearance aside, is there an advantage to retina?
> Do I get more working space if I don't go to a 15" display?

My eyesight is not great. Retina doesn’t make that much difference to me, 
screen size DOES.

> 2) I don't notice the speed of this box affecting much of anything.  For
> development, does cpu really matter?  I suspect I'd do better with some
> more memory, but has anyone noticed that it matters?

If you don’t notice speed now, probably it won’t be an issue for you. Until you 
use a faster one. Then, you’ll want it. I am firmly of the camp that I don’t 
ever want to run out of RAM. I probably overdo it. New offerings from Apple 
seem to have enough, which was not always true. For development & browsing, for 
sure 8G minimum, 16G comfortable. 

> 3) I can get a 27" 5k imac pretty nicely equipped for the same price as a
> 15" MBP.  Ignoring the portability issue, any thoughts?

Portability is HUGE for me. I have 27” monitors most places I go, which may not 
be typical. If portability is not an issue for you, go for the iMac. That 5k 
screen is really beautiful, wrote the blind man .

Take with salt!
.Jerry


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[off]macbook model

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

I'm thinking of replacing my 2011 macbook air with a new macbook, but I'm
torn on which one to go for.  Primary uses are going to be LC development
and browser goodness.
Before anyone chimes in about Windoze or LInux, I already have both of
those covered.
Things I'm wondering about:
1) Screen real estate:  Appearance aside, is there an advantage to retina?
Do I get more working space if I don't go to a 15" display?
2) I don't notice the speed of this box affecting much of anything.  For
development, does cpu really matter?  I suspect I'd do better with some
more memory, but has anyone noticed that it matters?
3) I can get a 27" 5k imac pretty nicely equipped for the same price as a
15" MBP.  Ignoring the portability issue, any thoughts?

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Moving up from LC V6/V7 towards the current versions

[Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode]

Hi Pyyhtiä,

I could not find your app in Google Play, but still appears
in some repositories:

https://androidappsapk.co/download/com.mindcrea.getdealdone/dc4dee3fb80f8ec85b26cbc0ca19ce9c/

Thanks a lot for offering your stack source.
Every LiveCode developer could learn from your code.
Compress your stack and upload it to Google Drive or
Dropbox.

An article detailing the reasons behind your design choices
could make a great article for LiveCode blog and newsletter!

Al
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Re: Does exporting a snapshot from a rect work on mobile?

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

Actually, never mind, that cannot be it.

I tried the follow script:

on mouseUp

create field "test height"

select after field "test height"

send getEWSR to me in 1 second

end mouseUp

on getEWSR

answer the effective working screenrect

delete field "test height"

end getEWSR


it still returns the same screenrect that I get without using "effect
working", which is the screenrect of the device.


Any other ideas?

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 8:51 PM,  wrote:

> A question for Mark Waddingham...
>
> Mark, in my app, in the place in question, the keyboard is activated by a
> browser widget. Is it possible that this means it is not sending a signal
> to LC to update the value of the effective working screen rect?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 31, 2017, at 8:27 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Yes - it makes me want to share whatever I can.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >>> On Aug 31, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 08/31/2017 07:33 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote:
> >>> Just a random comment - having the CTO of LC directly answer our
> questions is an incredible benefit to LC developers.
> >>
> >> I also want to give a shout out to the supportive community here. This
> is by far the best online community I've ever had the honor of being a part
> of. The level of paying things forward is outstanding.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mark Wieder
> >> ahsoftw...@gmail.com
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Displayed publication date of LC iOS apps in iTunes

[Terry Judd via use-livecode]

This is something that I’ve been wondering about for a while. Not a problem as 
such but it looks odd.

I develop all my apps using an enterprise iOS developer license so it might be 
that it is peculiar to that license type but I don’t have anything to compare 
it to. Anyway, when I install one of my apps onto an iOS device and connect it 
to iTunes and view the list of apps either on or available to install on the 
device then the date of the app always shows up as 1/01/1904 (I’m in Australia 
so that’s dd/mm/ format).

Does anyone else see this, and is there a way to change it to a more sensible 
value?

Terry...
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OT: error messages

[Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode]

on Wed, 30 Aug 2017, Ralph DiMola wrote:

> In 1975 a few of us were huddled around the console
> of an IBM 1130 trying to figure out the new command
> line text editor(Cytos). The error messages were less
> than helpful(much less) so at one point in frustration
> we typed "f*** you". Cytos replied "Same to you" and
> we all fell on the floor laughing!

Oddly enough, my first contact with Windows was
helping a neighbor to understand the sparse and
sometimes unintelligible error messages from his
music applications that refused to open after installing
another music application.

I used Macintosh at home and in my work,
so Windows computers were a real novelty
at least for me.

Took some time for him to understand that it was himself
that have given permission to the most recent application
to modify the computer to assure only his own functionality.

You have no idea about all the suffering that my neighbor
had to endure using Windows 95 (later 98) but his
computer life improved vastly after he buy a new computer
(2002) with a new OS: Windows XP

>From his experience, I learned that Windows works better
(and more reliable) when you use it as a Workstation,
but still today (2017), too many computer users still employs
their PC as experimental devices, where they install any kind
of cards, devices, drivers and programs with unpredictable
consequences.

Who knows...

If the money of my first computer have not been stolen
(money for a Commodore Amiga) maybe I have never
had the chance to use a Mac and learn about HyperCard,
MetaCard and LiveCode.

If I have never helped my neighbor with his suffering,
maybe I have never learn about Xara (the fastest
design software in any platform) and learned to
read very carefully the software manuals before
installing and using any software in any computer.

All this previous knowledge have been really useful
and have made a lot easier to learn Ubuntu Linux.

Al
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Re: Does exporting a snapshot from a rect work on mobile?

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

A question for Mark Waddingham...

Mark, in my app, in the place in question, the keyboard is activated by a 
browser widget. Is it possible that this means it is not sending a signal to LC 
to update the value of the effective working screen rect?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 31, 2017, at 8:27 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Yes - it makes me want to share whatever I can.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Aug 31, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 08/31/2017 07:33 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote:
>>> Just a random comment - having the CTO of LC directly answer our questions 
>>> is an incredible benefit to LC developers.
>> 
>> I also want to give a shout out to the supportive community here. This is by 
>> far the best online community I've ever had the honor of being a part of. 
>> The level of paying things forward is outstanding.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Mark Wieder
>> ahsoftw...@gmail.com
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Re: livecode changes image colors without being asked to do it

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

Hi Robert

I have looked at this and it is reacting this way because a correct
CMYK colorspace profile has not been embedded into the jpeg file.
LiveCode, therefore, has no idea how to interpret the colors and
handles them in an almost raw state oversaturating them. Adding the
closest profile to its natural state helps, in this instance, US Web
Coated (SWOP) v2.

I've attached another source jpg to test with which has this embedded profile.

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20316


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On 1 September 2017 at 00:11, Robert Brenstein via use-livecode <
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> I just tested this in LC 8.1.6 and it shows the same problem as 7.1.3. I
> filed a bug report for the team to check into this, including the files.
> Bug 20316.
>
> Robert
>
>
> On 31 Aug 2017, at 18:25, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:
>
> On 2017-08-31 18:22, Robert Brenstein via use-livecode wrote:
>>
>>> As Panos wrote: CMYK images should display correctly if you are using
>>> LC >=8.1.3:
>>> I am using 7.1.3. This is what I meant that this was a known problem.
>>> I just fetched 8.1.6 to check but I won’t habe time to do it until next
>>> week.
>>>
>>
>> Oops - I missed that email of Panos's - I thought something like this
>> sounded familiar.
>>
>> Anyway, keep us posted on how you get on - hopefully that fix will solve
>> the problem for you.
>>
>> Warmest Regards,
>>
>> Mark.
>>
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Re: Does exporting a snapshot from a rect work on mobile?

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

Yes - it makes me want to share whatever I can.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 31, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 08/31/2017 07:33 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote:
>> Just a random comment - having the CTO of LC directly answer our questions 
>> is an incredible benefit to LC developers.
> 
> I also want to give a shout out to the supportive community here. This is by 
> far the best online community I've ever had the honor of being a part of. The 
> level of paying things forward is outstanding.
> 
> -- 
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Re: Does exporting a snapshot from a rect work on mobile?

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 08/31/2017 07:33 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote:

Just a random comment - having the CTO of LC directly answer our questions is 
an incredible benefit to LC developers.


I also want to give a shout out to the supportive community here. This 
is by far the best online community I've ever had the honor of being a 
part of. The level of paying things forward is outstanding.


--
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Re: livecode changes image colors without being asked to do it

[Robert Brenstein via use-livecode]

I just tested this in LC 8.1.6 and it shows the same problem as 7.1.3. I 
filed a bug report for the team to check into this, including the files. 
Bug 20316.


Robert

On 31 Aug 2017, at 18:25, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:


On 2017-08-31 18:22, Robert Brenstein via use-livecode wrote:

As Panos wrote: CMYK images should display correctly if you are using
LC >=8.1.3:
I am using 7.1.3. This is what I meant that this was a known problem.
I just fetched 8.1.6 to check but I won’t habe time to do it until 
next week.


Oops - I missed that email of Panos's - I thought something like this 
sounded familiar.


Anyway, keep us posted on how you get on - hopefully that fix will 
solve the problem for you.


Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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Re: Does exporting a snapshot from a rect work on mobile?

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 08/31/2017 07:33 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote:

Just a random comment - having the CTO of LC directly answer our questions is 
an incredible benefit to LC developers.


...and not just answering questions, but expounding on the reasoning 
behind existing features/bugs and brainstorming about work in progress 
and ideas for new features. In my experience this level of support is 
unheard of practially anywhere else. I've gotten spoiled by it.


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Re: Does exporting a snapshot from a rect work on mobile?

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

Hi Mark,

Unfortunately, the screen rect and the effective working screen rect return the 
exact same results on this Android device - 0,0,800,1280.

Do you have any other suggestions for determining the keyboard height on 
Android? I am willing to pursue my hack, but it is a pretty rough hack.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 31, 2017, at 10:33 AM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Just a random comment - having the CTO of LC directly answer our questions is 
> an incredible benefit to LC developers.
> 
> Thanks Mark
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 31, 2017, at 10:22 AM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> I have not tried that - wow, that could really help. I will check later 
>> today!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Aug 31, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
  wrote:
 
 On 2017-08-31 15:34, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can work with getting a snapshot just from the browser widget, for
 my particular case. As long as it also includes the keyboard in the
 image.
>>> 
>>> Have you tried 'the [[effective] working] screenRect'?
>>> 
>>> I think 'the effect working screenRect' should give you the portion of the 
>>> screen not covered by furniture and the keyboard.
>>> 
>>> Warmest Regards,
>>> 
>>> Mark.
>>> 
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Drag Drop Revisited

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Has any MacOS X developers implemented Drag Drop in a desktop app? Do you drag 
and drop text from another app into LC fields? Have you ever noticed when 
returning to LC that the window you dragged data into is unresponsive until you 
click the title bar or move the window or some such action like that? I'd like 
to hear from you. 

Bob S





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webP and webM support in LiveCode

[Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode]

> Anyone interested in the topic of image optimization
> could learn a lot from this webpage too:
>
https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/performance/optimizing-content-efficiency/image-optimization

Check this useful information about two new image compression
file formats: BPG and FLIF

https://bellard.org/bpg/

http://flif.info/index.html

Al
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Moving up from LC V6/V7 towards the current versions

[Pyyhtiä Christer via use-livecode]

At the last LC V6 and early V7 versions I built a mobile (Android) application 
(getDealDone, gDD) working with the On-Rev-backend working real-time with 
(Google) app-store for subscription registration. I think the last version, 
which still works, was updated for about two years ago.  It might be off the 
store, please tell if you want to hack with it.

At the time of the development the important factors were:

-   Just LiveCode only, every line both in the device and in the server
-   I could shift any function to be done at the server from the mobile 
device or vice versa
-   -   there were many functions this way "interchangeable"; could 
move any action to perform either in the device or in the server
-   -   SQL interfaces were equal in the device (to SGLite) and in the 
server (mySQL)
-   -   security functions were equal in server and in the devices
-   -   communication with app-store (Google) was well defined (but not 
well documented in LC), and set to work well
-   scaling of the user interface was to be done by the application, not 
leaning on LC scaling
-   got icons from outside, did some own coarse ones myself
-   make sure the all-newest tricks were not used, but leaned on certainly 
proven self made functions

It was surprising that with very intense crypt/decrypt functions LC V6/V7 
performs very, very well; obviously any small improvement is welcome, but can 
survive without it.

Now the question is, what does LC V8.6 (the latest) add to make the app revisit 
worth while (besides all the wrong design decisions with U/I etc)?

My wish list

#1 would be exactly equal handling of Android, Apple, XX app-store API's and 
device functions, icons etc.
#2 Icon creating add-on (don't want to by $1K Adobe SW for it);
#3 Equal API's for mySQL and the other main free SQL offerings like MarieDB and 
any DBMS
#4 A way to make reviewing of developed applications with LC specialists easier 
(read less £ heavy; both parties would get benefit)

Just thoughts but please tell your reaction.
christer

PS.  My application sold 0 (zero) units.  But it is a great one, anyway. Had a 
lot of fun writing 10K+ lines of pure LC code I still can read.



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Re: LC and OneSignal

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

Jonathon:
Thanks for the offer. I’m trying to prioritize my effort on this free, but 
important app, and don’t want to spend the effort to set up a server. One thing 
I realized that the text messaging app (on iOS at least) does do a notification 
when a message comes in. That may be enough for my needs. I am thinking about 
specific notifications to my app, though.

Best,
Bill

> On Aug 31, 2017, at 9:19 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> Augmented Earth includes in-app messaging. I am going to share the code 
> before my presentation on September 21. I could also directly share the 
> database code with you.
> 
> It seems that you are not looking to set up a server, but if you go that way, 
> you are welcome to use my code.
> 
> J
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 31, 2017, at 12:10 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Folks:
>> Implementing onesignal push notification in an app sounds very useful to me 
>> for an emergency alert system I’m developing for my local community (for 
>> free). I can see that a lot of the implementation, for me, will take a lot 
>> of head scratching and a large time commitment for me to implement with 
>> unfamiliar API’s. If anyone has a skeleton implementation they would be 
>> willing to share, I would be very grateful.’
>> 
>> As an aside, I noticed that the free service means you are sharing your user 
>> data with them. You pay if you want it private.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2017, at 9:03 PM, Jose Enrique Montero via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Dan !
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Could you implement it via API onesignal?
>>> 
>>> pushNotificationRegistered  in livecode
>>> 
>>> and
>>> 
>>> post  like https://documentation.onesignal.com/reference#add-a-device ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> best regard
>>> 
>>> Jose Montero
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OT: Texas flooding

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

It has been pointed out to me that if you have Rewards points on 
Southwest Airlines, you can log onto your account on their website and 
donate them to one of several charity groups for Hurricane Harvey flood 
relief. I just donated my points to United Hands.


--
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Re: livecode changes image colors without being asked to do it

[Mark Waddingham via use-livecode]

On 2017-08-31 18:22, Robert Brenstein via use-livecode wrote:

As Panos wrote: CMYK images should display correctly if you are using
LC >=8.1.3:
I am using 7.1.3. This is what I meant that this was a known problem.
I just fetched 8.1.6 to check but I won’t habe time to do it until next 
week.


Oops - I missed that email of Panos's - I thought something like this 
sounded familiar.


Anyway, keep us posted on how you get on - hopefully that fix will solve 
the problem for you.


Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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Re: livecode changes image colors without being asked to do it

[Robert Brenstein via use-livecode]

As Panos wrote: CMYK images should display correctly if you are using LC 
>=8.1.3:

I am using 7.1.3. This is what I meant that this was a known problem.
I just fetched 8.1.6 to check but I won’t habe time to do it until 
next week.


Robert

On 31 Aug 2017, at 17:55, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:

That's why I was intrigued - I inferred that your fix was to use an 
sRGB profile in the JPEGs rather than CMYK.


However, there still sounds like an issue somewhere - the engine 
should cope with CMYK, so assuming there is a profile in the JPEG for 
CMYK it should display similar to Preview. I know CMYK JPEGs are a bit 
gnarly so having an example which doesn't work quite right might help 
them work a little better and more consistent generally.


Of course, I could have misunderstood entirely!

Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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Re: LC and OneSignal

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

Hi Bill,

Augmented Earth includes in-app messaging. I am going to share the code before 
my presentation on September 21. I could also directly share the database code 
with you.

It seems that you are not looking to set up a server, but if you go that way, 
you are welcome to use my code.

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 31, 2017, at 12:10 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Folks:
> Implementing onesignal push notification in an app sounds very useful to me 
> for an emergency alert system I’m developing for my local community (for 
> free). I can see that a lot of the implementation, for me, will take a lot of 
> head scratching and a large time commitment for me to implement with 
> unfamiliar API’s. If anyone has a skeleton implementation they would be 
> willing to share, I would be very grateful.’
> 
> As an aside, I noticed that the free service means you are sharing your user 
> data with them. You pay if you want it private.
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
>> On Aug 30, 2017, at 9:03 PM, Jose Enrique Montero via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Dan !
>> 
>> 
>> Could you implement it via API onesignal?
>> 
>> pushNotificationRegistered  in livecode
>> 
>> and
>> 
>> post  like https://documentation.onesignal.com/reference#add-a-device ?
>> 
>> 
>> best regard
>> 
>> Jose Montero
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Re: [ANN] Important: New release of LiveCode 8.1.6

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

Put it to one side and use another version. That's about all you can do.

Sean Cole
*Pi Digital Productions Ltd*

'Don't try to think outside the box. Just remember the truth: There is no
box!'
'For then you realise it is not the box you are trying to look outside of,
but it is yourself!'

eMail Ts & Cs    Pi Digital
Productions Ltd is a UK registered limited company, no. 5255609

On 31 August 2017 at 16:54, Colin Holgate via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Is there anything that can be done in Xcode 8 to make it work for other
> versions of LiveCode?
>
>
> > On Aug 31, 2017, at 3:42 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Since the week beginning 21st August 2017, LiveCode iOS apps are being
> > rejected by iTunes Connect due to 'invalid binary'. It turns out that
> Apple
> > have upgraded the tools they use to analyse binaries, and this has shown
> an
> > error in the Mach-O structure of the 64-bit slice. The version of otool
> > with Xcode 6.x (on 10.9) does not show a problem, but newer versions do.
> >
> > For this reason, we have built a new version of LiveCode 8.1.6 that
> > addresses this issue.
> >
> > So if you have already installed the original LiveCode 8.1.6 and are
> > affected by this issue, please visit now
> >
> > http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
> >
> > and download the latest 8.1.6 (STABLE), released on the 31st of August.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > The LiveCode Team
>
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Re: LC and OneSignal

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

Folks:
Implementing onesignal push notification in an app sounds very useful to me for 
an emergency alert system I’m developing for my local community (for free). I 
can see that a lot of the implementation, for me, will take a lot of head 
scratching and a large time commitment for me to implement with unfamiliar 
API’s. If anyone has a skeleton implementation they would be willing to share, 
I would be very grateful.’

As an aside, I noticed that the free service means you are sharing your user 
data with them. You pay if you want it private.

Best,
Bill

> On Aug 30, 2017, at 9:03 PM, Jose Enrique Montero via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Dan !
> 
> 
> Could you implement it via API onesignal?
> 
> pushNotificationRegistered  in livecode
> 
> and
> 
> post  like https://documentation.onesignal.com/reference#add-a-device ?
> 
> 
> best regard
> 
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Re: livecode changes image colors without being asked to do it

[Mark Waddingham via use-livecode]

On 2017-08-31 17:46, Robert Brenstein via use-livecode wrote:

Mark, if you follow the thread, you will find that I hit a known
problem and it was remedied in a newer version of LC8. The comment/tip
from Keith is quite useful since the files I produce are printed by
different print shops in different countries. The shop I use locally
accepts files with sRGB but warns that color might be slightly off due
to conversion to CMYK.


That's why I was intrigued - I inferred that your fix was to use an sRGB 
profile in the JPEGs rather than CMYK.


However, there still sounds like an issue somewhere - the engine should 
cope with CMYK, so assuming there is a profile in the JPEG for CMYK it 
should display similar to Preview. I know CMYK JPEGs are a bit gnarly so 
having an example which doesn't work quite right might help them work a 
little better and more consistent generally.


Of course, I could have misunderstood entirely!

Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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Re: [ANN] Important: New release of LiveCode 8.1.6

[Colin Holgate via use-livecode]

Is there anything that can be done in Xcode 8 to make it work for other 
versions of LiveCode?


> On Aug 31, 2017, at 3:42 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Since the week beginning 21st August 2017, LiveCode iOS apps are being
> rejected by iTunes Connect due to 'invalid binary'. It turns out that Apple
> have upgraded the tools they use to analyse binaries, and this has shown an
> error in the Mach-O structure of the 64-bit slice. The version of otool
> with Xcode 6.x (on 10.9) does not show a problem, but newer versions do.
> 
> For this reason, we have built a new version of LiveCode 8.1.6 that
> addresses this issue.
> 
> So if you have already installed the original LiveCode 8.1.6 and are
> affected by this issue, please visit now
> 
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
> 
> and download the latest 8.1.6 (STABLE), released on the 31st of August.
> 
> Best regards,
> The LiveCode Team


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Re: livecode changes image colors without being asked to do it

[Robert Brenstein via use-livecode]

Mark, if you follow the thread, you will find that I hit a known problem 
and it was remedied in a newer version of LC8. The comment/tip from 
Keith is quite useful since the files I produce are printed by different 
print shops in different countries. The shop I use locally accepts files 
with sRGB but warns that color might be slightly off due to conversion 
to CMYK.


RObert

On 31 Aug 2017, at 17:07, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:


Hi Robert,

Are you able to file a bug with the offending image?

The engine does handle colour profiles in many cases so there may be 
an issue with that kind of profile (if the image has one).


Of course, if the image does not have a profile then it might the 
engine isn't using an appropriate default.


Warmest Regards,

Mark.

Sent from my iPhone

On 30 Aug 2017, at 13:54, Robert Brenstein via use-livecode 
 wrote:


I have a stack that dynamically sets the image that is displayed on a 
card using


   set the filename of img vImageName of stack vStackName to 
vFilePath


I just encountered a problem with a new batch of jpeg files. Their 
colors change when they are displayed in the stack. I mean that when 
I open them in Preview, the color saturation and hue are different 
than when viewing the same pic in a stack.


Anything I can do to avoid that or anything I can tell the graphics 
person to do differently when producing those files in AI?


RObert
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Re: livecode changes image colors without being asked to do it

[Mark Waddingham via use-livecode]

Hi Robert,

Are you able to file a bug with the offending image?

The engine does handle colour profiles in many cases so there may be an issue 
with that kind of profile (if the image has one).

Of course, if the image does not have a profile then it might the engine isn't 
using an appropriate default.

Warmest Regards,

Mark.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 30 Aug 2017, at 13:54, Robert Brenstein via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a stack that dynamically sets the image that is displayed on a card 
> using
> 
>set the filename of img vImageName of stack vStackName to vFilePath
> 
> I just encountered a problem with a new batch of jpeg files. Their colors 
> change when they are displayed in the stack. I mean that when I open them in 
> Preview, the color saturation and hue are different than when viewing the 
> same pic in a stack.
> 
> Anything I can do to avoid that or anything I can tell the graphics person to 
> do differently when producing those files in AI?
> 
> RObert
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Re: livecode changes image colors without being asked to do it

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Not only that, but a PDF can have embedded objects, each with their own ICC 
profile. For instance, a logo should be using a saturation intent and absolute 
colorimetric profile to make sure the color remains constant. Think Home Depot 
Orange. A photograph however might need perceptual intent with relative 
colorimetric. 

A high end print controller like a Fiery or Creo can honor these embedded 
profiles to give you just the right output that you expect. Livecode should be 
able to print these kinds of PDFs because it's the pint controller that handles 
the RIP. I would not expect LC to be able to CREATE these PDFs however. 

Bob S


> On Aug 31, 2017, at 04:36 , Keith Martin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 30 Aug 2017, at 15:31, Robert Brenstein via use-livecode wrote:
> 
>> The stack is used to produce a PDF file and the printing shop requested CMYK
> 
> A slight aside – please forgive me.
> 
> I teach publishing and have worked in the print industry (among others) since 
> the 1980s. It's now the norm for printers to accept PDFs with embedded RGB 
> images and do the colour conversion to CMYK in the final RIP stage as it's 
> printed. This means that the actual conversion is done with settings that are 
> most appropriate to the actual print method and device, not a generic 'make 
> it CMYK' process. I've seen print projects go expensively wrong because of 
> inappropriate CMYK conversion settings.
> 
> This is often known as an RGB workflow – although 'Hybrid workflow' is more 
> accurate, as it's just imported images that are left in their native colour 
> model; colour swatches should still be specified using the colour model of 
> the intended output process.
> 
> Having said this, the bottom line is always "ask your printer and follow 
> their advice," not least because if something goes wrong with the colour 
> repro they can't blame you. ;)
> 
> k
> 
> ---
> 
> Keith Martin
> Senior Lecturer, LCC (University of the Arts London)
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Re: Does exporting a snapshot from a rect work on mobile?

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

Just a random comment - having the CTO of LC directly answer our questions is 
an incredible benefit to LC developers.

Thanks Mark

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 31, 2017, at 10:22 AM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I have not tried that - wow, that could really help. I will check later today!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Aug 31, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2017-08-31 15:34, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I can work with getting a snapshot just from the browser widget, for
>>> my particular case. As long as it also includes the keyboard in the
>>> image.
>> 
>> Have you tried 'the [[effective] working] screenRect'?
>> 
>> I think 'the effect working screenRect' should give you the portion of the 
>> screen not covered by furniture and the keyboard.
>> 
>> Warmest Regards,
>> 
>> Mark.
>> 
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Re: Does exporting a snapshot from a rect work on mobile?

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

I have not tried that - wow, that could really help. I will check later today!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 31, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 2017-08-31 15:34, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I can work with getting a snapshot just from the browser widget, for
>> my particular case. As long as it also includes the keyboard in the
>> image.
> 
> Have you tried 'the [[effective] working] screenRect'?
> 
> I think 'the effect working screenRect' should give you the portion of the 
> screen not covered by furniture and the keyboard.
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> 
> Mark.
> 
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RE: [ANN] Important: New release of LiveCode 8.1.6

[Dave Kilroy via use-livecode]

+1 from me - the LiveCode team have been MEGA - thank you all!!

Kind regards

Dave


> 
> I would like to thank Panos, Mark et al. This is the type of support that the 
> big boys can't(or won't) give. 
> 
> Ralph DiMola 
> IT Director 
> Evergreen Information Services 
> [hidden email] 
> 
>  
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: use-livecode [mailto:[hidden email] 
> ]
>  On Behalf Of panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 6:43 AM 
> To: How to use LiveCode 
> Cc: panagiotis merakos 
> Subject: [ANN] Important: New release of LiveCode 8.1.6 
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> Since the week beginning 21st August 2017, LiveCode iOS apps are being 
> rejected by iTunes Connect due to 'invalid binary'. It turns out that Apple 
> have upgraded the tools they use to analyse binaries, and this has shown an 
> error in the Mach-O structure of the 64-bit slice. The version of otool with 
> Xcode 6.x (on 10.9) does not show a problem, but newer versions do. 
> 
> For this reason, we have built a new version of LiveCode 8.1.6 that addresses 
> this issue. 
> 
> So if you have already installed the original LiveCode 8.1.6 and are affected 
> by this issue, please visit now 
> 
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ 
> 
> 
> and download the latest 8.1.6 (STABLE), released on the 31st of August. 
> 
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Re: Does exporting a snapshot from a rect work on mobile?

[Mark Waddingham via use-livecode]

On 2017-08-31 15:34, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote:

I can work with getting a snapshot just from the browser widget, for
my particular case. As long as it also includes the keyboard in the
image.


Have you tried 'the [[effective] working] screenRect'?

I think 'the effect working screenRect' should give you the portion of 
the screen not covered by furniture and the keyboard.


Warmest Regards,

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Re: [ANN] Important: New release of LiveCode 8.1.6

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

Perfect! Myself and Kee Nethery were just going around in circles trying to
resolve this. There also seemed to be a regression in tsNet being added but
not signed properly (and not showing up in the externals folder). I'm
hoping this solves that now.

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'For then you realise it is not the box you are trying to look outside of,
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On 31 August 2017 at 14:08, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I would like to thank Panos, Mark et al. This is the type of support that
> the big boys can't(or won't) give.
>
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On
> Behalf Of panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 6:43 AM
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Cc: panagiotis merakos
> Subject: [ANN] Important: New release of LiveCode 8.1.6
>
> Hi all,
>
> Since the week beginning 21st August 2017, LiveCode iOS apps are being
> rejected by iTunes Connect due to 'invalid binary'. It turns out that Apple
> have upgraded the tools they use to analyse binaries, and this has shown an
> error in the Mach-O structure of the 64-bit slice. The version of otool
> with Xcode 6.x (on 10.9) does not show a problem, but newer versions do.
>
> For this reason, we have built a new version of LiveCode 8.1.6 that
> addresses this issue.
>
> So if you have already installed the original LiveCode 8.1.6 and are
> affected by this issue, please visit now
>
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
>
> and download the latest 8.1.6 (STABLE), released on the 31st of August.
>
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Re: Does exporting a snapshot from a rect work on mobile?

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

Hi Mark,

I am trying to hack together a way to detect the height of the keyboard on 
Android. My plan is to have an image 1-pixel wide, but full height of the 
screen, with an rgb color of 0,0,1. 

If the snapshot includes the keyboard, then the image data of the snapshot will 
include a point where the color changes to something other than 0,0,1. I can 
use that point to calculate how high the keyboard is.

Yes, this is a ridiculous hack, but I do not see another solution.

I can work with getting a snapshot just from the browser widget, for my 
particular case. As long as it also includes the keyboard in the image.

I still have to test for that.

Thanks for looking into this issue.

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 31, 2017, at 8:25 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jonathan,
> 
>> On 2017-08-31 14:09, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote:
>> Thanks for checking Paul. It appears that, with a browser widget on
>> screen, I am only getting an image from the parts of the screen with
>> the browser widget.
>> With import snapshot, the non-browser parts of the image are
>> transparent (and black). With exporting a snapshot to a variable and
>> putting that variable into an image, the non-browser parts are visible
>> but black.
>> I will do more exploring and file a bug report if I can isolate the issue 
>> more.
> 
> This is http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9992 - back when this was 
> reported there was no way to do as you are wanting. However, it seems like 
> since then there is a new way to get a snapshot of the screen:
> 
> https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/uiview/1622589-drawviewhierarchyinrect
> 
> So we can try that to fix the problem (it might still not work for some layer 
> types).
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> 
> Mark.
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Re: Does exporting a snapshot from a rect work on mobile?

[Mark Waddingham via use-livecode]

On 2017-08-31 14:25, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/uiview/1622589-drawviewhierarchyinrect


Turns out this works quite well! It certainly manages to capture
a browser widget on iOS which is displaying the google homepage.

There is still a possibility that some views will not be captured
so some experimentation might be needed, however I've patched it
for inclusion in 8.1.7-rc-1 - so you'll be able to try it out there.

Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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RE: [ANN] Important: New release of LiveCode 8.1.6

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

I would like to thank Panos, Mark et al. This is the type of support that the 
big boys can't(or won't) give.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 6:43 AM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: panagiotis merakos
Subject: [ANN] Important: New release of LiveCode 8.1.6

Hi all,

Since the week beginning 21st August 2017, LiveCode iOS apps are being rejected 
by iTunes Connect due to 'invalid binary'. It turns out that Apple have 
upgraded the tools they use to analyse binaries, and this has shown an error in 
the Mach-O structure of the 64-bit slice. The version of otool with Xcode 6.x 
(on 10.9) does not show a problem, but newer versions do.

For this reason, we have built a new version of LiveCode 8.1.6 that addresses 
this issue.

So if you have already installed the original LiveCode 8.1.6 and are affected 
by this issue, please visit now

http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/

and download the latest 8.1.6 (STABLE), released on the 31st of August.

Best regards,
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Re: Does exporting a snapshot from a rect work on mobile?

[Mark Waddingham via use-livecode]

Hi Jonathan,

On 2017-08-31 14:09, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote:

Thanks for checking Paul. It appears that, with a browser widget on
screen, I am only getting an image from the parts of the screen with
the browser widget.

With import snapshot, the non-browser parts of the image are
transparent (and black). With exporting a snapshot to a variable and
putting that variable into an image, the non-browser parts are visible
but black.

I will do more exploring and file a bug report if I can isolate the 
issue more.


This is http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9992 - back when 
this was reported there was no way to do as you are wanting. However, it 
seems like since then there is a new way to get a snapshot of the 
screen:


https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/uiview/1622589-drawviewhierarchyinrect

So we can try that to fix the problem (it might still not work for some 
layer types).


Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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Re: Does exporting a snapshot from a rect work on mobile?

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

Thanks for checking Paul. It appears that, with a browser widget on screen, I 
am only getting an image from the parts of the screen with the browser widget.

With import snapshot, the non-browser parts of the image are transparent (and 
black). With exporting a snapshot to a variable and putting that variable into 
an image, the non-browser parts are visible but black.

I will do more exploring and file a bug report if I can isolate the issue more.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 31, 2017, at 12:56 AM, Paul Hibbert via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I just ran a quick test and it works OK for me using LC8.1.6 on MacOS Sierra 
> 10.12.6, build for iOS10 and tested on iPhone 5s running iOS10.3.3
> 
> HTH
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
>> On Aug 30, 2017, at 7:00 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I am getting all black in the image, but I checked and the rect is the 
>> correct rect.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: livecode changes image colors without being asked to do it

[Keith Martin via use-livecode]

On 30 Aug 2017, at 15:31, Robert Brenstein via use-livecode wrote:

The stack is used to produce a PDF file and the printing shop 
requested CMYK


A slight aside – please forgive me.

I teach publishing and have worked in the print industry (among others) 
since the 1980s. It's now the norm for printers to accept PDFs with 
embedded RGB images and do the colour conversion to CMYK in the final 
RIP stage as it's printed. This means that the actual conversion is done 
with settings that are most appropriate to the actual print method and 
device, not a generic 'make it CMYK' process. I've seen print projects 
go expensively wrong because of inappropriate CMYK conversion settings.


This is often known as an RGB workflow – although 'Hybrid workflow' is 
more accurate, as it's just imported images that are left in their 
native colour model; colour swatches should still be specified using the 
colour model of the intended output process.


Having said this, the bottom line is always "ask your printer and follow 
their advice," not least because if something goes wrong with the colour 
repro they can't blame you. ;)


k

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[ANN] Important: New release of LiveCode 8.1.6

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Hi all,

Since the week beginning 21st August 2017, LiveCode iOS apps are being
rejected by iTunes Connect due to 'invalid binary'. It turns out that Apple
have upgraded the tools they use to analyse binaries, and this has shown an
error in the Mach-O structure of the 64-bit slice. The version of otool
with Xcode 6.x (on 10.9) does not show a problem, but newer versions do.

For this reason, we have built a new version of LiveCode 8.1.6 that
addresses this issue.

So if you have already installed the original LiveCode 8.1.6 and are
affected by this issue, please visit now

http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/

and download the latest 8.1.6 (STABLE), released on the 31st of August.

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