OT: Widgets - just a bit of nonsense

2019-10-07 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
It so happens that I’m digitising Roald Dahl’s first book, written when he was still a Flight Lieutenant in the Royal Air Force, and I came across this. Forgive any lack of political correctness - it was a very long time ago: > “I've just found a nest of widgets,” he said, and looked around in

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-07 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
there isn't any reason why bug bounties have to all go to the mothership. you're (for lack of a better word) kickstarting a bug fix. it's a bounty. it should go to the person who delivers the fix, the bounty hunter. ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: Get Definition

2019-10-07 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Not only that. I don't think the SE "get definition(s)" from *.livecodescript, stacks. Unless perhaps they are open. I just submitted a PR to fix a "get definition" bug. Currently if the handler you're looking for is in quotes the menu item will be dimmed.

Re: Determine if Windows engine is 32-bit or 64-bit?

2019-10-07 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2019-10-07 15:41, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode wrote: With LiveCode 9.5 one can deploy 32-bit or 64bit Windows applications. While LiveCode Builder has an `architecture` function that can be used to detect 64-bit, LiveCode Script does not. Does anybody have a function for determine

Re: Get Definition

2019-10-07 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 10/7/19 6:26 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: Not only that. I don't think the SE "get definition(s)" from *.livecodescript, stacks. Unless perhaps they are open. I'm probably misunderstanding something here, but it sounds like you want to search for definitions in

Determine if Windows engine is 32-bit or 64-bit?

2019-10-07 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
With LiveCode 9.5 one can deploy 32-bit or 64bit Windows applications. While LiveCode Builder has an `architecture` function that can be used to detect 64-bit, LiveCode Script does not. Does anybody have a function for determine 64-bit vs. 32-bit architecture in LCS? -- Trevor DeVore ScreenSteps

Re: Get Definition

2019-10-07 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 10/7/19 8:38 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: That's been my experience too, script-only stacks aren't searched when looking for handler definitions. Hmmm... I don't have that problem. Do you have an example of one that doesn't work? -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com

Re: Where do we want LiveCode to go? (was "Re: Where LiveCode is Now")

2019-10-07 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I have a theory that the solution to a problem cannot be simpler than the problem itself. If it is, then the problem wasn't as complex as first imagined. The issue with developing with multiple dissimilar platforms is that the interface is SOOO different between desktop and mobile, that a

Re: Where do we want LiveCode to go? (was "Re: Where LiveCode is Now")

2019-10-07 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Because Apple is no longer going to accept apps that are nothing more than a web portal. > On Oct 5, 2019, at 05:47 , R.H. via use-livecode > wrote: > > Let us face the fact that today's browsers are capable of almost > everything you want to do with a rich application. Why should I develop

Re: LiveCode 9.0.5

2019-10-07 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Ok. Bob S > On Oct 4, 2019, at 16:20 , Brian Milby via use-livecode > wrote: > > Yes, any bug fixes in 9.0.5 will be (or have been) merged into the 9.5 branch. > > Thanks, > Brian > On Oct 4, 2019, 4:01 PM -0400, JJS via use-livecode > , wrote: >> I understand, but these will be merged

[ANN] This Week in LiveCode 197

2019-10-07 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi all, Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open source community in today's edition of the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter! Read issue #197 here: http://bit.ly/2OvkIsr This is a weekly newsletter about LiveCode, focussing on what's been going on in and around

Re: Determine if Windows engine is 32-bit or 64-bit?

2019-10-07 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 9:47 AM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 2019-10-07 15:41, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode wrote: > > With LiveCode 9.5 one can deploy 32-bit or 64bit Windows applications. > > While LiveCode Builder has an `architecture` function

Re: Determine if Windows engine is 32-bit or 64-bit?

2019-10-07 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 9:47 AM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 2019-10-07 15:41, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode wrote: > > With LiveCode 9.5 one can deploy 32-bit or 64bit Windows applications. > > While LiveCode Builder has an `architecture` function

Re: Get Definition

2019-10-07 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
That's been my experience too, script-only stacks aren't searched when looking for handler definitions. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On October 7, 2019 8:28:39 AM Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote:

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-07 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
Cripes . . . this is turning out to be a right can of worms . . . and, obviously, there is an awful lot of reluctance to sponsor/donate for bug fixes. Let me attempt to summarise so far: 1. people feel that the company responsible for producing some software should bear full responsibility

Re: OT: Widgets - just a bit of nonsense

2019-10-07 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Interesting life. Check out the wiki. Bob S > On Oct 7, 2019, at 04:33 , Graham Samuel via use-livecode > wrote: > > It so happens that I’m digitising Roald Dahl’s first book, written when he > was still a Flight Lieutenant in the Royal Air Force, and I came across this. > Forgive any

Re: Recommended specs for Windows Development computer.

2019-10-07 Thread JJS via use-livecode
thx Dsc! Op 6-10-2019 om 22:22 schreef dsc--- via use-livecode: I tend to use a lot of whitespace in layout and keep label fields and text buttons long. And, since I am often the LiveCode programmer's programmer, building libraries & LCB extensions and such, I sometimes just throw controls

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-07 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 10/7/19 7:57 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: there isn't any reason why bug bounties have to all go to the mothership. you're (for lack of a better word) kickstarting a bug fix. it's a bounty. it should go to the person who delivers the fix, the bounty hunter. Um, no. You'd be

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-07 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Huh? I'm suggesting that this be taken the direction of a bounty. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-07 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Interesting, but these are professional developers, right? Not common end users. I'm just taken aback by the notion that no one would ever develop software again if they had to fix all the bugs themselves. Bob S > On Oct 7, 2019, at 15:56 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > Bob

Re: Where do we want LiveCode to go? (was "Re: Where LiveCode is Now")

2019-10-07 Thread JJS via use-livecode
by the way scroll a bit down, you'll read: 53% of the website visitors will click away if it does not load within 3 seconds. Think again about the html5 export...too slow to load. Then you are better off writing a html page yourself and add html5 stuff in it, mucho faster Op 7-10-2019 om

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-07 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
> On Oct 7, 2019, at 13:42 , Richmond via use-livecode > wrote: > > 1. people feel that the company responsible for producing some software > should bear full > responsibility for fixing bugs. > > Mind you, if that were the case I don't think there would be anyone > developing any

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-07 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > What other software company shares the burden of bug fixing with > it's clientele? Bug bounties are pretty common. https://www.guru99.com/bug-bounty-programs.html https://gadgets.ndtv.com/internet/features/bug-bounty-hunters-and-the-companies-that-pay-them-820636

Re: Recommended specs for Windows Development computer.

2019-10-07 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Home is fine unless you are going to be using it in a business environment. If you aren't or never will be joining a domain, if you are not going to be sharing files (except with other Windows 10 Home computers) then 10 Home should be fine. Bob S > On Oct 6, 2019, at 09:21 , Martin Koob via

Re: Where do we want LiveCode to go? (was "Re: Where LiveCode is Now")

2019-10-07 Thread JJS via use-livecode
, while on the other hand you can put something extra on your website and it can be installable as a webapp on your mobile, so that it becomes faster than ever to load. https://developers.google.com/web/progressive-web-apps Op 7-10-2019 om 18:18 schreef Bob Sneidar via use-livecode:

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-07 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
> On Oct 5, 2019, at 16:10 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > Happily most of the efforts I've helped fund on Kickstarter have reached > conclusions (the Deathstar never got completely funded). So they say... ___ use-livecode mailing

Re: LiveCode now #49 at TIOBE Index!

2019-10-07 Thread Erik Beugelaar via use-livecode
In my working life as an ict-engineer it was most of the times Microsoft related, so starting with Visual Basic 6/SQL Server decades ago and ending up with .NET/C# nowadays not to mention the SharePoint (365) and BizTalk implementations... But I must say I have only worked for companies who

Re: Recommended specs for Windows Development computer.

2019-10-07 Thread JJS via use-livecode
Thanks for sharing your tips Peter. Appreciate it, and will test some. Regards! Op 7-10-2019 om 01:31 schreef Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode: I work on text-heavy e-book-like, multi-language applications where layout is important. I use fields instead of buttons as it is much easier to

Re: Get Definition

2019-10-07 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I don't have a current example, it happened when I was working on Swami's project which is almost entirely script-only stacks. I had to use BBEdit to search folders to find a handler definition. He could probably provide an example though. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-07 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Terry Judd wrote: > These seem to be bounties for finding critical (mostly security- > related) bugs rather than fixing them - hard to see large tech > companies outsourcing their security fixes. Yes, probably not the best examples. I could dig up others, but sometimes I feel like there would

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-07 Thread Terry Judd via use-livecode
On 8/10/19, 11:02 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Mark Wieder via use-livecode" wrote: Back in the old days LC/RR had a voting system on bugzilla. You had five votes you could allocate to bug reports, and this gave an indication of how many people were affected by a given bug.

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-07 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I think the politicking was a big factor in killing the voting system. I remember many times when people would post to the list, urging others to cast a vote for an issue so it would rise to the top. Those voters may never have seen the bug but it sounded important and they had a vote or two

Re: Get Definition

2019-10-07 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
When I was working on the project, all the scripts were put in use when the app launched and they were all listed in the in-use pane in the message box. It was a huge list, too. I wonder if that matters. BR would know more about how it's working now. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay |

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-07 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: >> On Oct 7, 2019, at 15:56 , Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> Bug bounties are pretty common. > > Interesting, but these are professional developers, right? Not common > end users. LiveCode is a developer tool. We use it to make software for end-users. A lot of discussion around

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-07 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 10/7/19 4:31 PM, Terry Judd via use-livecode wrote: These seem to be bounties for finding critical (mostly security-related) bugs rather than fixing them - hard to see large tech companies outsourcing their security fixes. You'd have to separate proprietary from FOSS products here. One of

Re: Get Definition

2019-10-07 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 10/7/19 9:28 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: I don't have a current example, it happened when I was working on Swami's project which is almost entirely script-only stacks. I had to use BBEdit to search folders to find a handler definition. So you're editing a script in the SE

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-07 Thread Terry Judd via use-livecode
These seem to be bounties for finding critical (mostly security-related) bugs rather than fixing them - hard to see large tech companies outsourcing their security fixes. We already have an established system for reporting bugs, and LC are actively attending to fixing some/most of them. The

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-07 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Terry Judd wrote: > I'd totally forgotten about the Bugzilla voting system. I liked that > approach as well and agree that bringing it back could help both us > and LC to prioritise fixes. Voting is one of those things that has a certain ring of rightness about it (who doesn't love