Re: controlNames??

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

It's all coming back to me... ;-P

Bob S


> On Oct 11, 2017, at 09:12 , panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> No problem Bob. In fact this bug report was submitted by you :)
> 
> Panos


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Re: controlNames??

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

No problem Bob. In fact this bug report was submitted by you :)

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On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Thanks Panos. I worked around it with a simple line that checks to see if
> it is a number and if not to get the id of the control. I remember now
> thinking how odd it was to return IDs for controlnames. :-)
>
> Bob S
>
>
> > On Oct 11, 2017, at 09:00 , panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > Yes, this was a bug, fixed in 8.1.7 RC1:
> >
> > http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20201
> >
> > Best,
> > Panos
>
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Re: controlNames??

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Thanks Panos. I worked around it with a simple line that checks to see if it is 
a number and if not to get the id of the control. I remember now thinking how 
odd it was to return IDs for controlnames. :-)

Bob S


> On Oct 11, 2017, at 09:00 , panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bob,
> 
> Yes, this was a bug, fixed in 8.1.7 RC1:
> 
> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20201
> 
> Best,
> Panos


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Re: controlNames??

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Hi Bob,

Yes, this was a bug, fixed in 8.1.7 RC1:

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20201

Best,
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On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Did the controlNames change from 8.1.6 to 8.1.7? My code is referring to a
> control ID. In 8.1.6, the controlNames is a list of numbers. In 8.1.7 rc3
> it is an actual list of NAMES.
>
> Bob S
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controlNames??

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Did the controlNames change from 8.1.6 to 8.1.7? My code is referring to a 
control ID. In 8.1.6, the controlNames is a list of numbers. In 8.1.7 rc3 it is 
an actual list of NAMES. 

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Re: controlNames deprecated??

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

I found it. It's the menubar. Not sure why it at that position. I have a 
handler that sets the topleft of the menubar group to the topleft of the stack 
after setting the width of the group to the width of the stack because with 
Windows the menubar is opaque and it looks crappy when the menubar only goes 
part way across the window. It should always be 0,0, but neither here nor 
there. 

I am still able to alter the effectiveRect by dragging the right edge of the 
window to make the stack wider. I already submitted a bug report about that. 

Bob S


> On Jul 31, 2017, at 14:34 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Bob Sneidar wrote:
> > Richard Gaskin wrote:
> >> Could there be a group with hidden border and a margin that puts the
> >> left edge at -1?
> >
> > Yes, but the formatted rect is supposed to IGNORE hidden objects.
> 
> The group's visible property set to false?
> 
> Or is it just that the showBorder is false?
> 
> If the former, file a bug report.
> 
> If the latter, problem solved.
> 
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Re: controlNames deprecated??

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Bob Sneidar wrote:
> Richard Gaskin wrote:
>> Could there be a group with hidden border and a margin that puts the
>> left edge at -1?
>
> Yes, but the formatted rect is supposed to IGNORE hidden objects.

The group's visible property set to false?

Or is it just that the showBorder is false?

If the former, file a bug report.

If the latter, problem solved.

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Re: controlNames deprecated??

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Yes, but the formatted rect is supposed to IGNORE hidden objects. 

Bob S


> On Jul 31, 2017, at 11:56 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Bob Sneidar wrote:
> 
> >> On Jul 28, 2017, at 16:10 , Richard Gaskin wrote:
> >> Is there maybe an object at -1 left?  When I tested here the
> >> formattedRect returned the bounds of all visible objects reliably.
> >
> > Possible, although it is not a VISIBLE one. I selected all with select
> > grouped on and off. There is nothing I can see to account for it.
> 
> Selection should not affect the formattedRect.
> 
> Could there be a group with hidden border and a margin that puts the left 
> edge at -1?
> 
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Re: controlNames deprecated??

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Bob Sneidar wrote:

>> On Jul 28, 2017, at 16:10 , Richard Gaskin wrote:
>> Is there maybe an object at -1 left?  When I tested here the
>> formattedRect returned the bounds of all visible objects reliably.
>
> Possible, although it is not a VISIBLE one. I selected all with select
> grouped on and off. There is nothing I can see to account for it.

Selection should not affect the formattedRect.

Could there be a group with hidden border and a margin that puts the 
left edge at -1?


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Re: controlNames deprecated??

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Possible, although it is not a VISIBLE one. I selected all with select grouped 
on and off. There is nothing I can see to account for it. 

Bob S


> On Jul 28, 2017, at 16:10 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is there maybe an object at -1 left?  When I tested here the formattedRect 
> returned the bounds of all visible objects reliably.
> 
> -- 
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Re: controlNames deprecated??

[Mark Waddingham via use-livecode]

I use Firefox for dev'ing on the html5 engine as it tends to be at the 
forefront of 'what is to come' and also I find it's dev console somehow more 
responsive and 'better' than Chrome's and Safari's when dealing with huge blob 
of JS that the html5 engine is.

For everything else I use Chrome.

In all fairness to the Mozilla crew they are currently rewriting the core of 
FireFox in Rust (the Servo project). In fact Rust has been developed to do that.

When that is done we can fully expect that FireFox will be the most secure 
browser (at least as far as the bounds of the layout engine / JS engine goes) 
when evaluated from the point of view of having any exploitable vulnerabilities 
caused by coding errors (as you can't make such errors in Rust).

So if FireFox itself is going through a bit of a end-user low point it is 
likely in part to that (and the division of resources they must be facing).

Warmest Regards,

Mark

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> On 28 Jul 2017, at 15:13, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 07/28/2017 01:52 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
>> Duly submitted from Chrome. Something is wrong with Firefox.
> 
> I recently had a brief flirtation with Firefox for a few weeks, then gave up 
> in disgust and went back to Chrome. Web browsers are such memory hogs these 
> days.
> 
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Re: controlNames deprecated??

[Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode]

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

>
> I recently had a brief flirtation with Firefox for a few weeks, then gave
> up in disgust and went back to Chrome. Web browsers are such memory hogs
> these days.


I used slimjet for a few weeks (A chrome variant with the google reporting
removed) after a few years of firefox, and mozilla before that.

It was a somewhat smaller footprint (firefox had been going to a gig or so
of ram for each email), and could run multiple profiles at once  (instead
of multiple instances of firefox), but I've gone back to safari over most
things, both for the memory (still too much for multiple gmail), stability
(slimjet crashed twice most days), and most of all the keychain.  slimjet
*claimed* that it would use the keychain if you didn't use it's own
password system, but just plain didn't (although I think it tried exactly
once).  i'm not willing to store my passwords with google . . .

On the bright side, the latest versions of chrome throttle background tabs
(by 99%, iirc0 if they stay too active, a feature i expect t spread, and
the safari in High Sierra beta successfully blocks autoplay on websites.
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Re: controlNames deprecated??

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Bob Sneidar wrote:

> That [formattedRect] will do the trick, except that while the
> vertical works, the horizontal does not. By that I mean I can
> expand the size of the stack and the top and bottom items do
> not change, but if I expand the stack sideways the right DOES
> change. Further, the left always reports -1.

Is there maybe an object at -1 left?  When I tested here the 
formattedRect returned the bounds of all visible objects reliably.


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Re: controlNames deprecated??

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 07/28/2017 01:52 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

Duly submitted from Chrome. Something is wrong with Firefox.


I recently had a brief flirtation with Firefox for a few weeks, then 
gave up in disgust and went back to Chrome. Web browsers are such memory 
hogs these days.


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Re: controlNames deprecated??

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Duly submitted from Chrome. Something is wrong with Firefox. 

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20201

Bob S


> On Jul 28, 2017, at 13:47 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I selected IDE (I did it again) and I cannot see the OS field. The web page 
> is jacked. Or my browser is. Not surprising the latter as Mozilla has been 
> becoming increasingly less usable as the months go by. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On Jul 28, 2017, at 13:39 , Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It's under item 4 of "enter a bug" ( 
>> http://quality.livecode.com/enter_bug.cgi )
>> 
>> It insists on you filling in this in order - so once you fill in the
>> 
>> "I can see this in ..." (choose IDE vs Desktop vs ...) ,
>> 
>> it will then present you with a box for OS,
>> 
>> then for version,
>> 
>> then for 
>> 
>> -- Alex.
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Re: controlNames deprecated??

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

I selected IDE (I did it again) and I cannot see the OS field. The web page is 
jacked. Or my browser is. Not surprising the latter as Mozilla has been 
becoming increasingly less usable as the months go by. 

Bob S


> On Jul 28, 2017, at 13:39 , Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> It's under item 4 of "enter a bug" ( 
> http://quality.livecode.com/enter_bug.cgi )
> 
> It insists on you filling in this in order - so once you fill in the
> 
> "I can see this in ..." (choose IDE vs Desktop vs ...) ,
> 
> it will then present you with a box for OS,
> 
>  then for version,
> 
>  then for 
> 
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Re: controlNames deprecated??

[Alex Tweedly via use-livecode]

It's under item 4 of "enter a bug" ( 
http://quality.livecode.com/enter_bug.cgi )


It insists on you filling in this in order - so once you fill in the

"I can see this in ..." (choose IDE vs Desktop vs ...) ,

it will then present you with a box for OS,

  then for version,

  then for 

-- Alex.


On 28/07/2017 21:14, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

I cannot file a bug report. The QCC is saying "A value must be set for the 
'Desktop OS' field, but I am not being presented with a Desktop OS field.

Bob S



On Jul 28, 2017, at 13:11 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
<use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


On Jul 28, 2017, at 11:34 , Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
<use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

It is hard to know from this what to expect (as I don't know what structure 
your card has).

Could you file a report in the quality center, with a simple stack which shows 
what you are seeing?

I will file a report, but for those that do not want to dig that up, the 
command:

put the controlnames of card 1 of stack "Passwords"

produces a list of mostly numbers. Note that no lines start with "btn" which 
all my button names begin with. I think Jacque is right, anything in a group gets it's ID 
listed and not it's name.


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Re: controlNames deprecated??

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Thanks Jacque and Richard. 

That will do the trick, except that while the vertical works, the horizontal 
does not. By that I mean I can expand the size of the stack and the top and 
bottom items do not change, but if I expand the stack sideways the right DOES 
change. Further, the left always reports -1. 

Bob S


> On Jul 28, 2017, at 12:26 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> The formattedRect of the card accounts for object visibility.
> 
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Re: controlNames deprecated??

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

I cannot file a bug report. The QCC is saying "A value must be set for the 
'Desktop OS' field, but I am not being presented with a Desktop OS field. 

Bob S


> On Jul 28, 2017, at 13:11 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Jul 28, 2017, at 11:34 , Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It is hard to know from this what to expect (as I don't know what structure 
>> your card has).
>> 
>> Could you file a report in the quality center, with a simple stack which 
>> shows what you are seeing?
> 
> I will file a report, but for those that do not want to dig that up, the 
> command:
> 
> put the controlnames of card 1 of stack "Passwords"
> 
> produces a list of mostly numbers. Note that no lines start with "btn" which 
> all my button names begin with. I think Jacque is right, anything in a group 
> gets it's ID listed and not it's name. 


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Re: controlNames deprecated??

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

> On Jul 28, 2017, at 11:34 , Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> It is hard to know from this what to expect (as I don't know what structure 
> your card has).
> 
> Could you file a report in the quality center, with a simple stack which 
> shows what you are seeing?

I will file a report, but for those that do not want to dig that up, the 
command:

put the controlnames of card 1 of stack "Passwords"

produces a list of mostly numbers. Note that no lines start with "btn" which 
all my button names begin with. I think Jacque is right, anything in a group 
gets it's ID listed and not it's name. 

fresh_snow.png
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1034
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fldCustomerName
grpServerName
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grpServerPath
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Re: controlNames deprecated??

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 7/28/17 1:33 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

What I am actually trying to do is get a list of every visible object on a card 
so I can set the windows size to encompass all VISIBLE objects.


In that case, I think you want the formattedRect of the card. It ignores 
invisibles.


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Re: controlNames deprecated??

[Mark Waddingham via use-livecode]

Hi Bob,

On 2017-07-28 19:52, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

I can get the controlnames of a card, but at first blush the list does
not include button names. However it *does* list a great many numbers
of 4 digits. So I tried looking up controlNames in the dictionary and
there is no entry for it, at least not by using the find function.


It is hard to know from this what to expect (as I don't know what 
structure your card has).


Could you file a report in the quality center, with a simple stack which 
shows what you are seeing?


It will make it much easier to determine if it is, indeed, a bug, or 
just a strange (but correct) behavior.


Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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Re: controlNames deprecated??

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Hi Jacque. 

My growing consternation is that I have a LOT more lines in the list than show 
up in the application browser. But I suppose I have a lot of groups within 
groups so okay. 

What I am actually trying to do is get a list of every visible object on a card 
so I can set the windows size to encompass all VISIBLE objects. I need to take 
into account group borders though, because a group on one side of the card will 
produce a larger visible distance that the other side (if it contained no 
groups or objects with margins). 

The idea is to have a function which automatically sizes a card to encompass 
all visible objects with extra margins on the 4 sides. I say visible because 
the menuBar is typically invisible on the Mac OS, and I do not want to include 
that, nor do I care about imported graphics I have hidden, like the one I use 
for my background patters for instance. 

It seems there ought to be a way to get the names of all visible objects on a 
card without having to loop through every single field (think datagrids and 
shudder) or button (think menubars and shudder some more) or group (think 
datagrids again containing groups within groups and run screaming naked into 
the hills). 

Bob S


> On Jul 28, 2017, at 11:21 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> On 7/28/17 12:52 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
>> I can get the controlnames of a card, but at first blush the list does not 
>> include button names. However it*does*  list a great many numbers of 4 
>> digits. So I tried looking up controlNames in the dictionary and there is no 
>> entry for it, at least not by using the find function.
> 
> 
> I just tested this and it looks like the controlNames of a card only return 
> the names of controls whose parent is the card. Controls within a group are 
> listed by ID. I'm not sure if this is correct or not, I can see the logic, 
> but it would seem if the parent has to be the card then controls within a 
> group shouldn't be in the list at all.
> 
> My test card used a background group; it might be different for a card group.
> 
> -- 
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Re: controlNames deprecated??

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Moreover, the "controlNames" (as well as the "controlIDs") have never been
documented:

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11901

Best,
Panos
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On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 7:30 PM, panagiotis merakos <merak...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Jacque,
>
> Control names within a group can be obtained by:
>
> "the childControlNames of group myGroup"
>
> Best,
> Panos
> --
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 7:21 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>> On 7/28/17 12:52 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
>>
>>> I can get the controlnames of a card, but at first blush the list does
>>> not include button names. However it*does*  list a great many numbers of 4
>>> digits. So I tried looking up controlNames in the dictionary and there is
>>> no entry for it, at least not by using the find function.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I just tested this and it looks like the controlNames of a card only
>> return the names of controls whose parent is the card. Controls within a
>> group are listed by ID. I'm not sure if this is correct or not, I can see
>> the logic, but it would seem if the parent has to be the card then controls
>> within a group shouldn't be in the list at all.
>>
>> My test card used a background group; it might be different for a card
>> group.
>>
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Re: controlNames deprecated??

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Hi Jacque,

Control names within a group can be obtained by:

"the childControlNames of group myGroup"

Best,
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On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 7:21 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> On 7/28/17 12:52 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
>
>> I can get the controlnames of a card, but at first blush the list does
>> not include button names. However it*does*  list a great many numbers of 4
>> digits. So I tried looking up controlNames in the dictionary and there is
>> no entry for it, at least not by using the find function.
>>
>
>
> I just tested this and it looks like the controlNames of a card only
> return the names of controls whose parent is the card. Controls within a
> group are listed by ID. I'm not sure if this is correct or not, I can see
> the logic, but it would seem if the parent has to be the card then controls
> within a group shouldn't be in the list at all.
>
> My test card used a background group; it might be different for a card
> group.
>
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Re: controlNames deprecated??

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 7/28/17 12:52 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

I can get the controlnames of a card, but at first blush the list does not 
include button names. However it*does*  list a great many numbers of 4 digits. 
So I tried looking up controlNames in the dictionary and there is no entry for 
it, at least not by using the find function.



I just tested this and it looks like the controlNames of a card only 
return the names of controls whose parent is the card. Controls within a 
group are listed by ID. I'm not sure if this is correct or not, I can 
see the logic, but it would seem if the parent has to be the card then 
controls within a group shouldn't be in the list at all.


My test card used a background group; it might be different for a card 
group.


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Re: controlNames deprecated??

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Sorry, V8.1.5 OS X Sierra

Bob S


> On Jul 28, 2017, at 10:52 , Bob Sneidar <bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com> wrote:
> 
> hi all. 
> 
> I can get the controlnames of a card, but at first blush the list does not 
> include button names. However it *does* list a great many numbers of 4 
> digits. So I tried looking up controlNames in the dictionary and there is no 
> entry for it, at least not by using the find function. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 


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controlNames deprecated??

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

hi all. 

I can get the controlnames of a card, but at first blush the list does not 
include button names. However it *does* list a great many numbers of 4 digits. 
So I tried looking up controlNames in the dictionary and there is no entry for 
it, at least not by using the find function. 

Bob S



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Re: controlids and controlnames properties

[Bob Sneidar]

erm…

put the controlidsof card TRANS-HAL of stack DWPro into fld IDZ of stack 
“Cheese” \
  -   \
the controlnames of card TRANS-HAL of stack DWPro into fld IDZ of stack 
“Cheese

On Dec 15, 2014, at 14:00 , Richmond 
richmondmathew...@gmail.commailto:richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:

put the controlids   -   the controlnames of card TRANS-HAL of stack 
DWPro into fld IDZ of stack Cheese

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Re: controlids and controlnames properties

[Bob Sneidar]

Whoops!

put the controlidsof card TRANS-HAL of stack DWPro \
  -   \
the controlnames of card TRANS-HAL of stack DWPro into fld IDZ of stack 
“Cheese”


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Re: controlids and controlnames properties

[Klaus major-k]

Good morning Bob,

 Am 17.12.2014 um 16:55 schrieb Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com:
 
 Whoops!
 
 put the controlidsof card TRANS-HAL of stack DWPro \
   -   \
 the controlnames of card TRANS-HAL of stack DWPro into fld IDZ of stack 
 “Cheese”

thank you, we already cleared this out the day before yesterday :-D


Best

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Re: controlids and controlnames properties

[Bob Sneidar]

Yes as I said, since my threading in my email for this list is now completely 
hosed, I get everyone’s responses way up the list of emails after the original 
was sent. I think it has to do with some people using the mailing list and 
others using the web portal. 

Bob S


 On Dec 17, 2014, at 07:57 , Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de wrote:
 
 Good morning Bob,
 
 Am 17.12.2014 um 16:55 schrieb Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com:
 
 Whoops!
 
 put the controlidsof card TRANS-HAL of stack DWPro \
   -   \
 the controlnames of card TRANS-HAL of stack DWPro into fld IDZ of 
 stack “Cheese”
 
 thank you, we already cleared this out the day before yesterday :-D
 
 
 Best
 
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 kl...@major-k.de
 
 
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Re: controlids and controlnames properties

[Klaus major-k]

Hi Bob,

 Am 17.12.2014 um 17:15 schrieb Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com:
 
 Yes as I said, since my threading in my email for this list is now completely 
 hosed, I get everyone’s responses
 way up the list of emails after the original was sent. I think it has to do 
 with some people using the mailing list
 and others using the web portal. 

OK, thou shalt be forgiven! :-)

 Bob S
 On Dec 17, 2014, at 07:57 , Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de wrote:
 Good morning Bob,
 Am 17.12.2014 um 16:55 schrieb Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com:
 Whoops!
 put the controlidsof card TRANS-HAL of stack DWPro \
   -   \
 the controlnames of card TRANS-HAL of stack DWPro into fld IDZ of 
 stack “Cheese”
 thank you, we already cleared this out the day before yesterday :-D

Best

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Re: controlids and controlnames properties

[Peter M. Brigham]

On Dec 15, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:

 A few days ago I was bemoaning the fact that there wasn't a way to get a
 list of control ids or names without a repeat with x=1 to the number of
 controls of
 
 By chance, I just discovered there is a controlids property and a
 controlnames property that return the ids/names of all controls in a card
 or group.

This would be quite useful to me but when I try it in LC5.5.1:
put the controlnames of card 1 of stack someStack
I get empty. Similarly for controIDs.
Must have been introduced in a later version of LC5.5…

-- Peter

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controlids and controlnames properties

[Peter Haworth]

A few days ago I was bemoaning the fact that there wasn't a way to get a
list of control ids or names without a repeat with x=1 to the number of
controls of

By chance, I just discovered there is a controlids property and a
controlnames property that return the ids/names of all controls in a card
or group.

There is no mention of them in the dictionary.  They aren't there in LC 5.5
and are in LC 6.1 (don't have a copy of 6.0 so can't check there).

I can't find mention of them in any release notes either although I haven't
searched them extensively.

Am I the only one that somehow missed the introduction of these properties?

Pete
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Re: controlids and controlnames properties

[Richmond]

On 15/12/14 23:06, Peter Haworth wrote:

A few days ago I was bemoaning the fact that there wasn't a way to get a
list of control ids or names without a repeat with x=1 to the number of
controls of

By chance, I just discovered there is a controlids property and a
controlnames property that return the ids/names of all controls in a card
or group.

There is no mention of them in the dictionary.  They aren't there in LC 5.5
and are in LC 6.1 (don't have a copy of 6.0 so can't check there).

I can't find mention of them in any release notes either although I haven't
searched them extensively.

Am I the only one that somehow missed the introduction of these properties?

Pete



No, I missed them as well :/  Thanks for the heads up!

Get 6.0.1 COMMUNITY here: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/

Richmond.


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RE: controlids and controlnames properties

[Ralph DiMola]

Sweet... Thanks!!!

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Peter Haworth
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 4:06 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Subject: controlids and controlnames properties

A few days ago I was bemoaning the fact that there wasn't a way to get a
list of control ids or names without a repeat with x=1 to the number of
controls of

By chance, I just discovered there is a controlids property and a
controlnames property that return the ids/names of all controls in a card or
group.

There is no mention of them in the dictionary.  They aren't there in LC 5.5
and are in LC 6.1 (don't have a copy of 6.0 so can't check there).

I can't find mention of them in any release notes either although I haven't
searched them extensively.

Am I the only one that somehow missed the introduction of these properties?

Pete
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Re: controlids and controlnames properties

[Dr. Hawkins]

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote:

 By chance, I just discovered there is a controlids property and a
 controlnames property that return the ids/names of all controls in a card
 or group.


Is this different from the childControlIDs and childConbtrolNames


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Re: controlids and controlnames properties

[Richmond]

However . . .

When I did this:

on mouseUp
   put the controlids   -   the controlnames of card TRANS-HAL of 
stack DWPro into fld IDZ of stack Cheese

end mouseUp

I did NOT get a list of nicely paired ID numbers and names, but a 
messy something of which this is a sample:


controlids - VREFF
KREFF
fSIZING
rat-track.gif
scroler.png
BGRAD.png
2424k
2391k
2390k
7378k
7379k
VEE.png
2388k
2387k
2389k
2373k

The above are ALL names: ID numbers having vanished somewhere 
??


so will have to do some further fiddling around as that does not float 
my boat overly much.


Richmond.

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Re: controlids and controlnames properties

[Richmond]

On 15/12/14 23:56, Dr. Hawkins wrote:

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote:

By chance, I just discovered there is a controlids property and a
controlnames property that return the ids/names of all controls in a card
or group.


Is this different from the childControlIDs and childConbtrolNames




Certainly, as of 6.7 and 7.0.1 rc3 controlids and controlnames are NOT 
documented.


Richmond.

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Re: controlids and controlnames properties

[Klaus major-k]

Hi Richmond,

 Am 15.12.2014 um 23:00 schrieb Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com:
 
 However . . .
 
 When I did this:
 
 on mouseUp
   put the controlids   -   the controlnames of card TRANS-HAL of stack 
 DWPro into fld IDZ of stack Cheese
 end mouseUp
 
 I did NOT get a list of nicely paired ID numbers and names, but a messy 
 something of which this is a sample:
 
 controlids - VREFF
 KREFF
 fSIZING
 rat-track.gif
 scroler.png
 BGRAD.png
 2424k
 2391k
 2390k
 7378k
 7379k
 VEE.png
 2388k
 2387k
 2389k
 2373k
 
 The above are ALL names: ID numbers having vanished somewhere 
 ??
 
 so will have to do some further fiddling around as that does not float my 
 boat overly much.

what about:
...
  put the controlids OF CARD TRANS-HAL OF STACK DWPro   -   the 
controlnames of card TRANS-HAL of stack DWPro into fld IDZ of stack 
Cheese
...
8-)

 Richmond.

Best

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Re: controlids and controlnames properties

[Richmond]

On 16/12/14 00:03, Klaus major-k wrote:

Hi Richmond,


Am 15.12.2014 um 23:00 schrieb Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com:

However . . .

When I did this:

on mouseUp
   put the controlids   -   the controlnames of card TRANS-HAL of stack DWPro into fld 
IDZ of stack Cheese
end mouseUp

I did NOT get a list of nicely paired ID numbers and names, but a messy 
something of which this is a sample:

controlids - VREFF
KREFF
fSIZING
rat-track.gif
scroler.png
BGRAD.png
2424k
2391k
2390k
7378k
7379k
VEE.png
2388k
2387k
2389k
2373k

The above are ALL names: ID numbers having vanished somewhere ??

so will have to do some further fiddling around as that does not float my boat 
overly much.

what about:
...
   put the controlids OF CARD TRANS-HAL OF STACK DWPro   -   the controlnames of card TRANS-HAL of 
stack DWPro into fld IDZ of stack Cheese
...
8-)


Richmond.

Best

Klaus




Yes, err, well, I had a logng, tiring day trying to get some English 
into small Bulgarians with small brains . . . well that's my

excuse anyway for being pretty stupid.

Thanks for putting me right, again, again, again, Klaus :)

Richmond.

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Re: controlids and controlnames properties

[Geoff Canyon]

Yes: the childControlIDs and childConbtrolNames only go one level down;
anything in a group will not be reported. the controlIDs and controlNames
list everything everywhere. So given this structure:

card id 1002
group id 1007 [1007]
|  button Button [1004]
|  button Button [1006]

put the controlIDs of card id 1002

1007
1004
1006

put the childControlIDs of card id 1002

1007

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote:
 
  By chance, I just discovered there is a controlids property and a
  controlnames property that return the ids/names of all controls in a card
  or group.
 

 Is this different from the childControlIDs and childConbtrolNames


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Re: controlids and controlnames properties

[Monte Goulding]

On 16 Dec 2014, at 9:02 am, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:

 Certainly, as of 6.7 and 7.0.1 rc3 controlids and controlnames are NOT 
 documented.

I did these when I did childControlIDs and childControlNames as it was 
basically the same code. It was back before the docs were added to the engine 
repo and I was assuming that someone was covering me on the docs as I had no 
way to contribute them. These days you need to include docs with each change 
before it's looked at. It probably should be reported that there's no docs for 
these if it's not already.

Cheers

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Re: controlids and controlnames properties

[Peter Haworth]

Thanks Monte, I kinda suspected that was the case and thanks for adding
them.  I added QCC report number 14225 so hopefully they will make it into
the dictionary soon.

Pete
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On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com
 wrote:


 On 16 Dec 2014, at 9:02 am, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:

  Certainly, as of 6.7 and 7.0.1 rc3 controlids and controlnames are NOT
 documented.

 I did these when I did childControlIDs and childControlNames as it was
 basically the same code. It was back before the docs were added to the
 engine repo and I was assuming that someone was covering me on the docs
 as I had no way to contribute them. These days you need to include docs
 with each change before it's looked at. It probably should be reported that
 there's no docs for these if it's not already.

 Cheers

 Monte

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