Re: Hackintosh

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > The French revolution, the Russian revolution. Point out the > longest lived totalitarian state that still exists today. They all fall > eventually > Rome, however, took 1,500 years from the

Re: Hackintosh

One is a difference in kind, the other in degree. Bob S > On Aug 3, 2017, at 10:07 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > Well, if you are aware of that distinction you should be aware of the > difference between a law made by a democratically

Re: Hackintosh

The French revolution, the Russian revolution. Point out the longest lived totalitarian state that still exists today. They all fall eventually. Bob S > On Aug 3, 2017, at 10:05 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > Despotic machines are often

Re: Hackintosh

There have been lawyers for almost as long as there have been prostitutes. Neither is going away anytime soon. Bob S > On Aug 3, 2017, at 05:08 , Roger Eller via use-livecode > wrote: > > This sparked a memory of an old scene in Star Trek >

Re: Hackintosh

Wear your kilt. It's easior to pee. Bob S > On Aug 2, 2017, at 14:40 , Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > Indeed - and (if I remember correctly) - one purpose of devils advocate is to > ensure the other side justifies its case 'sufficiently' (for

Re: Hackintosh

Well, if you are aware of that distinction you should be aware of the difference between a law made by a democratically elected body and a decree called a "law" made by a non-representative body such as an absolute monarch or an oligarchy. R. On 8/3/17 6:40 pm, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode

Re: Hackintosh

On 8/3/17 6:33 pm, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: I don't see it that way. Apple has a choice to adhere to China's laws or no. Well, money almost always talks louder than either morals or anything else. China has a choice to allow the sale of Apple products in their country.

Re: Hackintosh

Read C. S. Lewis on the matter of "laws" in these two very different senses. Laws of nature are not really laws that we can choose to break them and behave in a manner contrary to them. Laws in this context simply means "how things are". Laws in the second sense means "how we as a whole agree

Re: Hackintosh

I don't see it that way. Apple has a choice to adhere to China's laws or no. China has a choice to allow the sale of Apple products in their country. The world is full of totalitarian states, and the populations there also have a choice: To live with their present situation, or to revolt. I

Re: Hackintosh

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 6:21 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Just to pay reference to the comment about LiveCode - I missed it the > first time around... > > We (LiveCode Ltd.) did not 'give away' LiveCode. We released it under a > software license

Re: Hackintosh

On 8/3/17 1:21 am, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Just to pay reference to the comment about LiveCode - I missed it the first time around... We (LiveCode Ltd.) did not 'give away' LiveCode. We released it under a software license that has strings. Indeed: but rather more flexible

Re: Hackintosh

I hope your G "did the trick". Richmond. On 8/3/17 12:40 am, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Indeed - and (if I remember correctly) - one purpose of devils advocate is to ensure the other side justifies its case 'sufficiently' (for some definition of sufficiently - usually a great

Re: Hackintosh

Richmond Mathewson wrote: A EULA is NOT a legally binding agreement Your mind seems well made up; I would not try to convince you otherwise. For others here looking to publish and comply with EULAs: I do not claim to be licensed to give legal advice. My opinions are only that, formed

Re: Hackintosh

Sorry - release the source-code of things you write in LiveCode you distribute to others. Warmest Regards, Mark. Sent from my iPhone > On 3 Aug 2017, at 00:21, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > Just to pay reference to the comment about LiveCode -

Re: Hackintosh

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > I have just changed my Devawriter licensing system so that each > instantiation of it that I sell is tied to the MAC address of > an individual computer. Therefore there is nothing to

Re: Hackintosh

Just to pay reference to the comment about LiveCode - I missed it the first time around... We (LiveCode Ltd.) did not 'give away' LiveCode. We released it under a software license that has strings. The GPL requires (subject to interpretation by lawyers - and a court of law) you to also

Re: Hackintosh

Frankly I don't agree with "protection" that causes problems to the legitimate user. In all my years of writng bespoke software I ALWAYS placed a copy of the source on the CEO machine and told them (for no extra) . If I got run over by a bus then the company wouldn't be at a loss - there are many

Re: Hackintosh

Indeed - and (if I remember correctly) - one purpose of devils advocate is to ensure the other side justifies its case 'sufficiently' (for some definition of sufficiently - usually a great deal harder when pedanticism kicks in!). I'm off to have another G! Warmest Regards, Mark. Sent from my

Re: Hackintosh

There are one or two people around here who probably don't know what a *devil's advocate* is . . . Off to polish my horns. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and

Re: Hackintosh

On 8/3/17 12:03 am, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Richmond Mathewson wrote: > No, I don't think we have to respect Apple's policy at all. A similar view might ask whether the DevaWriter license terms need to be respected, or LiveCode Ltd.'s, or Stephen King's, or the protections

Re: Hackintosh

Richard just said what I was thinking but much much better! Warmest Regards, Mark. Sent from my iPhone > On 2 Aug 2017, at 23:03, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > Richmond Mathewson wrote: > > > No, I don't think we have to respect Apple's policy

Re: Hackintosh

to me of interest. > > All the best, > Erik > > > > > -Original Message- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf > Of Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 10:34 PM > To: How to use

Re: Hackintosh

Richmond Mathewson wrote: > No, I don't think we have to respect Apple's policy at all. A similar view might ask whether the DevaWriter license terms need to be respected, or LiveCode Ltd.'s, or Stephen King's, or the protections afforded any creator of an original work. Many of us here

RE: Hackintosh

2, 2017 10:34 PM To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> Cc: Mark Waddingham <m...@livecode.com> Subject: Re: Hackintosh Whilst that may be true - a significant part of LiveCode's business comes from the US... As does our support for Apple devices. Of course, Apple pr

Re: Hackintosh

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > "a fuzzy line" > > Sounds a bit like the Emperor's USA/Mexico wall. > > Nah, it was Representative Lincoln that questioned where the line was, not Santa Anna . . . :) -- Dr. Richard E.

Re: Hackintosh

(through the WebView) apps on iOS for a while. So let's not presume we can 'read' intent of such 'powerful' entities. As I said there are other forums for discussing hackintosh creation - it is definitely off topic for this forum; so beyond a few links of elsewhere to look (which our helpful users

Re: Hackintosh

"a fuzzy line" Sounds a bit like the Emperor's USA/Mexico wall. Richmond. On 8/2/17 11:00 pm, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: Not to start a riot or anything, but I wasn't aware

Re: Hackintosh

No, I don't think we have to respect Apple's policy at all. But I do tend to agree that any discussion of anything that might rub Apple up the wrong way if it is to take place on this use-list should only be in relation to LiveCode. Oh, and, by the way: there are buckets of resources and

Re: Hackintosh

I have just started the riot: but, hey, you knew you could rely on me :) Kisses, Richmond. On 8/2/17 7:13 pm, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Not to start a riot or anything, but I wasn't aware discussions could violate a copyright. Bob S On Aug 2, 2017, at 08:56 , Richard Gaskin via

Re: Hackintosh

Apple's EULA may not actually be legal or legally enforcable in a large number of territories where this Use-List is read. Just seen Tim Cook "sucking the kneecaps" of China's one-party state's leaders and blethering anent "adhering to the law" re VPNs. Nothing makes me despise anyone more

Re: Hackintosh

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Not to start a riot or anything, but I wasn't aware discussions could > violate a copyright. > > Under some legal systems, discussions about how to engage in a crime, and encouraging others to

Re: Hackintosh

Indeed - freedom of speech and all. However, I have to side with Richard here - this forum is about LiveCode and not anything else. Sure we have 'OT' discussions now and again but generally they either 'peter out' or are suggested that this is not the appropriate forum (the latter in this

Re: Hackintosh

I also thought about creating a Hackintosh for my workplace to spent money. After i read many many instructions and forum posts at that time i decided to by a Mac. Why? Because i wanted to start working right away and did not want to spent to much time on building, fiddling and so on. And i

Re: Hackintosh

Also of interest, MacWorld article (yes, MacWorld) tells users how to build a Hackintosh. Although the author whines a little about it being involving some work. http://www.macworld.com/article/3196994/macs/how-to-build-a-hackintosh.html Someday, I believe Apple will come around and offer

Re: Hackintosh

Bob Sneidar wrote: >> On Aug 2, 2017, at 08:56 , Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> But we probably don't want to have discussions of violating Apple's >> copyright as part of this community's permanent public archive. > > Not to start a riot or anything, but I wasn't aware discussions could > violate

Hackintosh

In the country where I live, the first step to buy an Apple Computer is to built a Hackintosh. After they fall in love with Mac OS X and their hackintosh crash and burn really hard, their next step is to buy the real thing... This happens everytime without fail. In the same way, I suspect

Re: Hackintosh

Not to start a riot or anything, but I wasn't aware discussions could violate a copyright. Bob S > On Aug 2, 2017, at 08:56 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > But we probably don't want to have discussions of violating Apple's copyright > as part

Re: Hackintosh

We have a great community, having earned a reputation for providing a safe, friendly environment for learning LiveCode. With that in mind, please remember that Apple's EULA for macOS requires that it be run only on "Apple-branded computers". Discussions of using VMs on Mac hosts is great,

Re: Hackintosh

ode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > In addition what Roger said. > > Hackintosh Rule #3: Buy only PC hardware components (if possible) which > are supported by Apple native. > > Most problems can be avoided to use the wright components which are > critical to build a good working Hack

Re: Hackintosh

In addition what Roger said. Hackintosh Rule #3: Buy only PC hardware components (if possible) which are supported by Apple native. Most problems can be avoided to use the wright components which are critical to build a good working Hackintosh. Buy a motherboard which has already Wifi/BT

Re: OT: Hackintosh

ode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Greetings! > > > > Has anyone built their own Hackintosh computer? > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subsc

Re: OT: Hackintosh

Hi Dan, You have to ask yourself the question, why are you trying to create a Hackintosh computer? Is it about the learning experience, or about trying to save yourself some money, or both? If you are doing it just to try to save some money, you have to ask yourself how much money is your time

Re: OT: Hackintosh

use-livecode > <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Greetings! > > Has anyone built their own Hackintosh computer? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and

Re: Hackintosh

s.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Dan, > > I have built 6 years ago a Hackintosh computer based on a (nowadays) old > Foxconn H55 MS motherboard with and (nowadays) old Intel i7 processor. > Working on this desktop machine (12 GB RM, 512 GB SSD) is even now still a

Re: Hackintosh

By the way, I would go the route of a VM version of a hackitosh, not a hardware, build from scratch concept. SKIP On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Erik Beugelaar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Dan, > > I have built 6 years ago a Hackintosh

Re: OT: Hackintosh

ed them onto my own devices > without any problem. > > ~Roger > > > On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Dan Friedman via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > Greetings! > > > > Has anyone built their own Hackintosh computer? If so,

Re: Hackintosh

Hi Dan, I have built 6 years ago a Hackintosh computer based on a (nowadays) old Foxconn H55 MS motherboard with and (nowadays) old Intel i7 processor. Working on this desktop machine (12 GB RM, 512 GB SSD) is even now still a pleasure beside the fact that I own a real MacBook Pro i7 which I

Re: OT: Hackintosh

use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Greetings! > > Has anyone built their own Hackintosh computer? If so, have you had any > trouble working with XCode, iTunes Connect, Apple Developer tools, getting > apps approved, etc. I would like to build one (I’m not i

OT: Hackintosh

Greetings! Has anyone built their own Hackintosh computer? If so, have you had any trouble working with XCode, iTunes Connect, Apple Developer tools, getting apps approved, etc. I would like to build one (I’m not in love with Apple’s pre-built choices), but don’t want any hassles down