Re: Release 8.1.6

if there is no img "Nova.png" then create img "Nova.png" A file is created by LiveCode if not existing, but NOT an image, it has to be created by you. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubs

Re: Release 8.1.6

Mine had spaces, but the copy-paste from LC to Thunderbird . . . I DID find that in7.1.4 this did NOT work either: export snapshot from group "pp" to img "Nova.png" as PNG BUT this did: export snapshot from group "pp" to file "Nova.png" as PNG Richmond. On 8/1/17 11:39 am, Klaus major-k via

Re: Release 8.1.6

Hi Richmond, > Am 01.08.2017 um 10:25 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > : > > Still making a "ham sandwich" of snapshot export: > I have a group called "pp" right in the middle of a stack, but this: > exportsnapshot from group"pp" toimg "Nova.png" as PNG > give this: > Message execut

Re: Release 8.1.6

Still making a "ham sandwich" of snapshot export: I have a group called "pp" right in the middle of a stack, but this: exportsnapshot from group"pp" toimg "Nova.png" as PNG give this: Message execution error: Error description: Chunk: no such object Not very good. Richmond. __

[ANN] Release 8.1.6

Dear List Members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.6 Stable. By "Stable", we mean that no reported regressions have been introduced in 8.1.6, compared to the previous Stable release. LiveCode 8.1.6 contains 38 extra bug fixes and new features, compared to LiveCode 8.1.5. Y

[ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-3

Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.6 RC-3. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 8.1.6 RC-3 contains 3 bugfixes

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

The only practical way to accomplish this is to work in a bakery. Bob S > On Jul 18, 2017, at 10:53 , Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > Of course, the ideal situation is that we always find a way for everybody to > have their cake *and* eat it :) __

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

Cool, yeah I can see how the I-beam issue is a bit of a show-stopper! revIDEBrowserWidgetUnavailable is in the IDE library, line 4696: https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/blob/develop/Toolset/libraries/revidelibrary.8.livecodescript#L4696 On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:33 PM Mark Wieder via use-l

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

On 07/18/2017 10:51 PM, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode wrote: Just out of interest, if it is not having the dictionary that makes them 'unusable', does it launch correctly in a browser if you change the script of revIDEBrowserWidgetUnavailable to return true? Well, the CEF problem is one of the fac

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

Just out of interest, if it is not having the dictionary that makes them 'unusable', does it launch correctly in a browser if you change the script of revIDEBrowserWidgetUnavailable to return true? On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:14 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

On 07/18/2017 02:39 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: @Mark What reasons? I mean, if we don't know what are the issues preventing you from using dp7/8, they are not likely to be fixed in dp9. Not to worry. Nothing that hasn't been reported already and is being worked on. -- Mar

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

@Mark What reasons? I mean, if we don't know what are the issues preventing you from using dp7/8, they are not likely to be fixed in dp9. Best, Panos -- On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:36 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 07/18/2017 02:02 PM, Ali Lloyd via

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

On 07/18/2017 02:02 PM, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode wrote: Do you mean the one that we can't reproduce, or the one that's fixed in 9 DP 7? ;-) Dunno - dp7/8 are unusable for me for a number of reasons. I'm looking forward to dp9. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com _

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

Do you mean the one that we can't reproduce, or the one that's fixed in 9 DP 7? ;-) Either way, it will be exactly the same mechanism, better to find and fix your issue than to rewrite all the code and risk introducing new bugs. If I have my way the standalone settings will go the same route. On

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

On 07/18/2017 01:07 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: cf. Jacque's "Twilight Zone". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moomintroll We Europeans . . . That's slightly different from the original link, and aside from the troll reference I'm not sure how this is a replacement from the

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

On 07/18/2017 01:06 PM, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode wrote: On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 6:53 PM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: Why do I get the feeling we might be having to do a vigorous 'moomin'* on how prefs are handled in the IDE at some point soon...

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

And, Ahum + Richmond. On 7/18/17 11:06 pm, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode wrote: On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 6:53 PM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: Why do I get the feeling we might be having to do a vigorous 'moomin'* on how prefs are handled in the IDE at s

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

cf. Jacque's "Twilight Zone". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moomintroll We Europeans . . . Richmond. On 7/18/17 10:09 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 07/18/2017 11:19 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: :) So that just leaves Little My, Tooticky, the ancestor, Sniff, Th

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 6:53 PM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Why do I get the feeling we might be having to do a vigorous 'moomin'* > on how prefs are handled in the IDE at some point soon... > Ahem: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20098

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

On 07/18/2017 11:19 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: :) So that just leaves Little My, Tooticky, the ancestor, Sniff, The Groke, ... WTF? -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

Thanks for adjusting/modifying the default handler list. Looks so much better now. Matthias Matthias Rebbe +49 5741 31 ‌matthiasrebbe.eu ‌ > Am 18.07.2017 um 18:30 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode > mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>: > > Dear list

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

Just as long as we don't get a bad case of hattifatteners! Richmond. On 7/18/17 9:19 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: :) So that just leaves Little My, Tooticky, the ancestor, Sniff, The Groke, ... Sent from my iPhone On 18 Jul 2017, at 19:12, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

:) So that just leaves Little My, Tooticky, the ancestor, Sniff, The Groke, ... Sent from my iPhone > On 18 Jul 2017, at 19:12, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > Well; if the lot in Edinburgh are Moomins I'm a very opinionated Hemulen: > > http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

Well; if the lot in Edinburgh are Moomins I'm a very opinionated Hemulen: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=29487&p=156063#p155838 "All in the best possible taste", Richmond. On 7/18/17 8:53 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: On 2017-07-18 19:08, Richmond Mathewson via u

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

On 2017-07-18 19:08, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: This should be fun, and in the light of "taking community feedback into consideration" we should all 'jump on' anything we don't like with alternative (constructive) suggestions as soon as possible. Alternative *concrete* suggestio

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

This should be fun, and in the light of "taking community feedback into consideration" we should all 'jump on' anything we don't like with alternative (constructive) suggestions as soon as possible. Richmond. On 7/18/17 7:30 pm, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: Dear list members, W

[ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-2

Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.6 RC-2. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 8.1.6 RC-2 contains 14 bugfixes

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

I can't take credit, I first saw Ken Ray do it. On 7/12/17 3:05 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Brilliant as usual. Bob S On Jul 12, 2017, at 11:40 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: And since we are look at usability of the script editor and add ons I would LOVE to have t

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

I can't take credit, I first saw Ken Ray do it. On 7/12/17 3:05 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Brilliant as usual. Bob S On Jul 12, 2017, at 11:40 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: And since we are look at usability of the script editor and add ons I would LOVE to have t

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

On 7/12/17 2:36 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: * In UX circles they bandy about "80% of users never change preference settings" so often it's usually taken for granted, but this morning as I noted that above I wondered about the actual research behind it. Of course that rubric appl

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

> RG wrote: > I would caution against adding more stuff to the Prefs window, for > reasons too lengthy to indulge in here. The new stuff could replace "Compatibility" (and "Updates" could be replaced with one link to downloads.livecode.com). ___ use-

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

Brilliant as usual. Bob S > On Jul 12, 2017, at 11:40 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > >> And since we are look at usability of the script editor and add ons I would >> LOVE to have the ability to show "sections" in my scripts >> I think it was years ago, or maybe even nowin GLX

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

On 13/07/2017 2:56 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Richard Gaskin via use-livecode" wrote: I would caution against adding more stuff to the Prefs window, for reasons too lengthy to indulge in here. Perhaps having a button in the script editor that links to the script edito

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

Richmond Mathewson wrote: > On 7/12/17 7:56 pm, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: > > for reasons too lengthy to indulge in here. > > > Please could you indulge in them somewhere so we can understand your > argument fully. For future readers to better understand my reply here, it may be h

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

On 7/12/17 9:26 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: And since we are look at usability of the script editor and add ons I would LOVE to have the ability to show "sections" in my scripts I think it was years ago, or maybe even nowin GLX? anyway, Jerry Daniels had that, where

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

Kevin Miller wrote: > We are working hard to attract new users to the platform. This has > come up again and again in user testing. This evening we tested this > new handler list on new users for the first time. It went over very > well. It does indeed seem very helpful, but even better to hear

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

On 7/12/17 7:56 pm, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: for reasons too lengthy to indulge in here. Please could you indulge in them somewhere so we can understand your argument fully. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@l

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

Terry Judd wrote: > I’ve just had a quick play with the enhanced script editor and these > all seem like good suggestions to me, and in the script editor pane of > the preferences window I’d allow the user to (i) hide/show the list of > available common handlers and (ii) hide/show included comment

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

My feedback is here: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=29487 including soundings from kids on my summer course. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and man

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

Hi all, Thank you for the feedback. I am afraid that all those useful suggestions will be buried in the use-list, so I have filed an enhancement request that summarizes the most common suggestions about improving the default handlers as discussed here. http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

I had almost the same sense as Mark on this. Distracting at first, but no really in the And since we are look at usability of the script editor and add ons I would LOVE to have the ability to show "sections" in my scripts I think it was years ago, or maybe even nowin GLX? anyway, Jerry Daniel

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

Configurable would be great, because that would be the start of having Macros, and having those macros be configurable, and having them be able to do things like using the hilited text to build a structure On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 5:01 AM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

This feature in general is a good idea. But - make it more visible that those handler are not current handler of the script, e.g. grey out that list - allow a bigger space between the script handler and the handler list - show this list by default, so new users see that list by default, but all

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

I'm going to show this version to "my" kids this afternoon . . . Richmond. On 7/12/17 1:12 am, Tore Nilsen via use-livecode wrote: I have played a bit with the enhanced script editor and while I like the idea with the handler lists I am not sure that the implementation is as good as it could

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

"We are working hard to attract new users" . . . Well that feature certainly should make things quite a bit easier! Richmond. On 7/12/17 1:07 am, Kevin Miller via use-livecode wrote: Is it something perhaps you could get used to? We are working hard to attract new users to the platform. This

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

That's not a bad idea: to turn on/off this feature in the preferences. Richmond. On 7/12/17 1:05 am, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote: Matthias Rebbe +49 5741 31 ‌matthiasrebbe.eu ‌ A new feature in the script editor has been added, this is the ability to ch

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

I think that this new feature is really wonderful; especially as new users of LiveCode won't have to wait (like I did) for 5 years to find out about "MouseEnter" :) Richmond. On 7/12/17 12:52 am, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: H Richmond, Thanks for the feedback. The default handl

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

Configurable sounds like a great idea to me too. I’d like to see a more defined break from the regular handlers if that’s possible. Also there is a Typo - PasteKey in the Field script is missing the “P” - it just states asteKey, I wondered what that was! :) Paul > On Jul 11, 2017, at 8:01 PM,

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

On 07/11/2017 03:07 PM, Kevin Miller via use-livecode wrote: Is it something perhaps you could get used to? We are working hard to attract new users to the platform. This has come up again and again in user testing. This evening we tested this new handler list on new users for the first time. It

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

I'd vote for this, a configurable option would make everyone happy. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On July 11, 2017 5:38:43 PM Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: On 11/07/2017 23:07, Ke

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

I’ve just had a quick play with the enhanced script editor and these all seem like good suggestions to me, and in the script editor pane of the preferences window I’d allow the user to (i) hide/show the list of available common handlers and (ii) hide/show included comments on their functionality

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

Very good: The idea and also all the refinement proposals. It would also be great if the prototypes were editable. Bad: Some of the prototypes use protected names like "filename" as parameters. So they don't compile ... ___ use-livecode mailing list use

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

Just to make my points a bit clearer, here is a list of what enhancements to the handler list I think will be helpful: 1. Put the list in a menu/scrolling list field above the current list showing actual handlers in the script 2. Label this menu/list clearly as “Common handlers” to make sure th

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

On 11/07/2017 23:07, Kevin Miller via use-livecode wrote: Is it something perhaps you could get used to? We are working hard to attract new users to the platform. This has come up again and again in user testing. This evening we tested this new handler list on new users for the first time. It

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

I have played a bit with the enhanced script editor and while I like the idea with the handler lists I am not sure that the implementation is as good as it could be. I find it a bit confusing to see a list of handlers in the handler list without any actual handlers in the script itself. From my

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

Is it something perhaps you could get used to? We are working hard to attract new users to the platform. This has come up again and again in user testing. This evening we tested this new handler list on new users for the first time. It went over very well. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke.

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

Matthias Rebbe +49 5741 31 ‌matthiasrebbe.eu ‌ > > > A new feature in the script editor has been added, this is the ability to > choose from a list of default handlers to add to the object script. I am not sure if i like this new handler list. At least at that plac

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

H Richmond, Thanks for the feedback. The default handlers appear exactly as they are in the dictionary. Indeed, the mouseUp handler for example does take a parameter (see dictionary). If you don't need to do different things in the mouseUp handler depending on the , you can just ignore it (e.g.

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

I am impressed with the new default handler list . . . BUT . . . I wonder why, on choosing either mouseDown or mouseUp it prompts me for a mouseButton number . . . if this feature is meant to speed things up, it doesn't, as one normally spends time choosing the default handler and then deletin

[ANN] Release 8.1.6 RC-1

Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.6 RC-1. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 8.1.6 RC-1 contains 32 bug fixe