Re: name resolution stinker
Thanks Mark. I came to the same conclusion. For my purposes the first method is the best. I start with the short name of a datagrid, then tried to build the long name knowing the long id of the owning card. Instead it's easier to say: there is a group of Bob S > On Apr 12, 2018, at 05:14 , Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > I think the problem here is that you are mixing up to methods of referencing > controls... > > You can either do: > > there is a group tGroupName of ... > > As syntax *or* : > > there is a tLongIdOfGroup > > The 'group' chunk expects a string which is a name of a group - it isn't the > same as putting 'group' in front of the string. > > Try making tGridLongName with the word 'group' at the front (I think someone > else suggested this) then that should work. > > Warmest Regards, > > Mark. > > Sent from my iPhone ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: name resolution stinker
put the id of tCurrentCard into tCardID put (there is a group id (the id of group tDataGrid of card id tCardID) into tGroupExists if not tGroupExists then next repeat Sean Cole *Pi Digital Productions Ltd* On 12 April 2018 at 13:14, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I think the problem here is that you are mixing up to methods of > referencing controls... > > You can either do: > > there is a group tGroupName of ... > > As syntax *or* : > > there is a tLongIdOfGroup > > The 'group' chunk expects a string which is a name of a group - it isn't > the same as putting 'group' in front of the string. > > Try making tGridLongName with the word 'group' at the front (I think > someone else suggested this) then that should work. > > Warmest Regards, > > Mark. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 11 Apr 2018, at 17:08, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Ok here is a real stinker. > > > > put quote & tDataGrid & quote && "of" && tCurrentCard into tGridLongName > > put (there is a group tGridLongName) into tGroupExists > > if not tGroupExists then next repeat > > > > tGridLongName resolves to: > > "dgsites" of card id 1002 of stack "Sites" of stack > "/Users/bobsneidar/Documents/Livecode Projects/Forms Generator 8/Forms > Generator 8.livecode" > > > > When in the message box I type: > > put there is a group "dgsites" of card id 1002 of stack "Sites" of stack > "/Users/bobsneidar/Documents/Livecode Projects/Forms Generator 8/Forms > Generator 8.livecode" > > > > I get true. > > > > But the code: > > put (there is a group tGridLongName) into tGroupExists > > > > returns false. tGridLongName is not resolving in this statement. > > > > Is this another use case for DO? > > > > Bob S > > > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: name resolution stinker
I think the problem here is that you are mixing up to methods of referencing controls... You can either do: there is a group tGroupName of ... As syntax *or* : there is a tLongIdOfGroup The 'group' chunk expects a string which is a name of a group - it isn't the same as putting 'group' in front of the string. Try making tGridLongName with the word 'group' at the front (I think someone else suggested this) then that should work. Warmest Regards, Mark. Sent from my iPhone > On 11 Apr 2018, at 17:08, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > Ok here is a real stinker. > > put quote & tDataGrid & quote && "of" && tCurrentCard into tGridLongName > put (there is a group tGridLongName) into tGroupExists > if not tGroupExists then next repeat > > tGridLongName resolves to: > "dgsites" of card id 1002 of stack "Sites" of stack > "/Users/bobsneidar/Documents/Livecode Projects/Forms Generator 8/Forms > Generator 8.livecode" > > When in the message box I type: > put there is a group "dgsites" of card id 1002 of stack "Sites" of stack > "/Users/bobsneidar/Documents/Livecode Projects/Forms Generator 8/Forms > Generator 8.livecode" > > I get true. > > But the code: > put (there is a group tGridLongName) into tGroupExists > > returns false. tGridLongName is not resolving in this statement. > > Is this another use case for DO? > > Bob S > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: name resolution stinker
Have not tried any of the offerings. But, at least in HC, it was important to isolate all card references with parentheses. Otherwise the engine would concatenate any text following the ostensible card reference and create a mess: blah, blah, blah of (cd id 1002) of stack Not sure if LC is more adept, and this is not required any longer. I always do so, unless the card reference is at the very end of the line: ... of cd ID 1001 Craig Newman -- Sent from: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: name resolution stinker
Typed the following in the message box: put the long id of me into x; put there is an x & cr & x Selected a grouped object on a substack and pressed return. Got true and the long ID. On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:01 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Not to be argumentative, but I cannot express if there is a tGridLongName. > That will not compile. > > Bob S > > > > On Apr 11, 2018, at 10:49 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > On 04/11/2018 09:55 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: > >> But the variable tGridLongName resolves to: > >> "dgsites" of card id 1002 of stack "Sites" of stack > "/Users/bobsneidar/Documents/Livecode Projects/Forms Generator 8/Forms > Generator 8.livecode" > > > > Exactly. > > It *should* resolve to group "dgsites" of... > > > > Ensure that the object type is part of tGridLongName somehow. > > > > -- > > Mark Wieder > > ahsoftw...@gmail.com > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: name resolution stinker
Not to be argumentative, but I cannot express if there is a tGridLongName. That will not compile. Bob S > On Apr 11, 2018, at 10:49 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 04/11/2018 09:55 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: >> But the variable tGridLongName resolves to: >> "dgsites" of card id 1002 of stack "Sites" of stack >> "/Users/bobsneidar/Documents/Livecode Projects/Forms Generator 8/Forms >> Generator 8.livecode" > > Exactly. > It *should* resolve to group "dgsites" of... > > Ensure that the object type is part of tGridLongName somehow. > > -- > Mark Wieder > ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: name resolution stinker
On 04/11/2018 09:55 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: But the variable tGridLongName resolves to: "dgsites" of card id 1002 of stack "Sites" of stack "/Users/bobsneidar/Documents/Livecode Projects/Forms Generator 8/Forms Generator 8.livecode" Exactly. It *should* resolve to group "dgsites" of... Ensure that the object type is part of tGridLongName somehow. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: name resolution stinker
It probably would help but I am referencing the object in other places, for instance I am getting the tablename of group tGridLongName and that fails as well. As I posted the workaround is to reference it by group of Bob S > On Apr 11, 2018, at 09:51 , Mike Bonner via use-livecode > wrote: > > Not sure if this will be userful, but would placing the following script in > your stack (or frontscript I guess) work easier? > > command amIHere pName > try > dispatch "imHere" to group pName of the current card > catch tError > return false > end try > end amIHere > > command imHere > return true > end imHere > > Might be cheating using try this way, but I think it should work pretty > well. > > If the dispatch fails due to object (or in this case, background) not found > error, you get false, if the dispatch is handled you get true. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: name resolution stinker
But the variable tGridLongName resolves to: "dgsites" of card id 1002 of stack "Sites" of stack "/Users/bobsneidar/Documents/Livecode Projects/Forms Generator 8/Forms Generator 8.livecode" I cannot reference group tGridLongName, but I can reference group tGridShortName of Apparently there is a/an only works with short names of objects. Something in the dictionary may be a hint. It says "there is a" is implemented as an internal function so has a lower precedence as other operators. Bob S > On Apr 11, 2018, at 09:43 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > because you're using the short name of the group. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: name resolution stinker
Not sure if this will be userful, but would placing the following script in your stack (or frontscript I guess) work easier? command amIHere pName try dispatch "imHere" to group pName of the current card catch tError return false end try end amIHere command imHere return true end imHere Might be cheating using try this way, but I think it should work pretty well. If the dispatch fails due to object (or in this case, background) not found error, you get false, if the dispatch is handled you get true. On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:23 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I used DO to evaluate the statement and of course that works, but any > reference to group fails > to resolve. > > I worked around this anomaly (which I vaguely recall I've run into before) > by using > there is a group tDataGrid of tCurrentCard > > tDatagrid is the short name of the datagrid > tCurrentCard is the long id of the card the datagrid is on > > Apparently you cannot reference an object using it's full id, but you can > reference an object using it's short name and the long id of the parent! I > find this odd, but oh well. > > Bob S > > > > On Apr 11, 2018, at 09:08 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Ok here is a real stinker. > > > > put quote & tDataGrid & quote && "of" && tCurrentCard into tGridLongName > > put (there is a group tGridLongName) into tGroupExists > > if not tGroupExists then next repeat > > > > tGridLongName resolves to: > > "dgsites" of card id 1002 of stack "Sites" of stack > "/Users/bobsneidar/Documents/Livecode Projects/Forms Generator 8/Forms > Generator 8.livecode" > > > > When in the message box I type: > > put there is a group "dgsites" of card id 1002 of stack "Sites" of stack > "/Users/bobsneidar/Documents/Livecode Projects/Forms Generator 8/Forms > Generator 8.livecode" > > > > I get true. > > > > But the code: > > put (there is a group tGridLongName) into tGroupExists > > > > returns false. tGridLongName is not resolving in this statement. > > > > Is this another use case for DO? > > > > Bob S > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: name resolution stinker
On 04/11/2018 09:08 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: put quote & tDataGrid & quote && "of" && tCurrentCard into tGridLongName because you're using the short name of the group. put "group" && quote & tDataGrid & quote && "of" && tCurrentCard into tGridLongName or put the name of group dgsites into tDataGrid and then put quote & tDataGrid & quote && "of" && tCurrentCard into tGridLongName -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: name resolution stinker
I used DO to evaluate the statement and of course that works, but any reference to group fails to resolve. I worked around this anomaly (which I vaguely recall I've run into before) by using there is a group tDataGrid of tCurrentCard tDatagrid is the short name of the datagrid tCurrentCard is the long id of the card the datagrid is on Apparently you cannot reference an object using it's full id, but you can reference an object using it's short name and the long id of the parent! I find this odd, but oh well. Bob S > On Apr 11, 2018, at 09:08 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > Ok here is a real stinker. > > put quote & tDataGrid & quote && "of" && tCurrentCard into tGridLongName > put (there is a group tGridLongName) into tGroupExists > if not tGroupExists then next repeat > > tGridLongName resolves to: > "dgsites" of card id 1002 of stack "Sites" of stack > "/Users/bobsneidar/Documents/Livecode Projects/Forms Generator 8/Forms > Generator 8.livecode" > > When in the message box I type: > put there is a group "dgsites" of card id 1002 of stack "Sites" of stack > "/Users/bobsneidar/Documents/Livecode Projects/Forms Generator 8/Forms > Generator 8.livecode" > > I get true. > > But the code: > put (there is a group tGridLongName) into tGroupExists > > returns false. tGridLongName is not resolving in this statement. > > Is this another use case for DO? > > Bob S ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
name resolution stinker
Ok here is a real stinker. put quote & tDataGrid & quote && "of" && tCurrentCard into tGridLongName put (there is a group tGridLongName) into tGroupExists if not tGroupExists then next repeat tGridLongName resolves to: "dgsites" of card id 1002 of stack "Sites" of stack "/Users/bobsneidar/Documents/Livecode Projects/Forms Generator 8/Forms Generator 8.livecode" When in the message box I type: put there is a group "dgsites" of card id 1002 of stack "Sites" of stack "/Users/bobsneidar/Documents/Livecode Projects/Forms Generator 8/Forms Generator 8.livecode" I get true. But the code: put (there is a group tGridLongName) into tGroupExists returns false. tGridLongName is not resolving in this statement. Is this another use case for DO? Bob S ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
