Re: Navigator 6.1 alpha1 is out

I made a slight update to fix an issue with the drag and drop indicators. Using some fonts in Navigator's list field would cause the indicators to be off when dragging in long lists. Oddly, this seems to be because the effective textHeight of the field reports a 1-off pixel count. So instead of

revNavigator - Cloning a card - am i doing something wrong?

Hi, today i wanted to clone a card with Navigator, but the cloned card then is added to the revNavigator stack instead to the original stack. And much more important, after cloning the card revNavigator is going to that cloned card. So no way to use Navigator until i restart. I tried both,

Re: revNavigator - Cloning a card - am i doing something wrong?

It turns out I think I'm not doing something wrong, but I fixed it anyway. ;-) It appears the "clone" command doesn't match the documentation. For me, in LC 8 on a Mac, it seems that issuing a clone command for a card in another stack doesn't clone the card in its owner, but to the stack running

Re: For those who do not know lcTasklist

HI Malte, I just bought it on your recommendation - I'm sure it will be very useful as I'm "refactoring" some old code at the moment (make it work THEN make it better). Lagi A brute force solution that works is better than an elegant solution that doesn't work. Steve McConell - Code Complete

Re: revNavigator - Cloning a card - am i doing something wrong?

Wow, that's a brutal bug. You're not doing anything wrong, I am ;-) I'm looking at it now... On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 12:35 AM Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi, > > today i wanted to clone a card with Navigator, but the cloned card then is > added to

RE: Navigator 6.1 alpha1 is out

Geoff, When I create a new Navigator for a Group, when I click on an item it does not get selected on the card. Am I doing something wrong? Sincerely, Clarence Martin Email: chi...@themartinz.com Cell: 626 696-5561 -Original Message- From: use-livecode On Behalf Of Geoff Canyon via

RE: Navigator 6.1 alpha1 is out

My Bad! I am replying to my own question. I found that by right clicking on the item and using the "select objects", I can hilite and get the object info. GREAT PLUGIN! Sincerely, Clarence Martin Email: chi...@themartinz.com Cell: 626 696-5561 -Original Message- From: use-livecode On

Re: For those who do not know lcTasklist

Lagi, i am not Malte, i am Matthias (Ματθίας). ;) But anyway. Good to know that the user base of lcTaskList increases. Regards, Matthias > Am 21.08.2018 um 11:48 schrieb Lagi Pittas via use-livecode > mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>: > > HI Malte, > > I just bought it on your

Re: For those who do not know lcTasklist

Sorry Mathias, I read the post - went away and had an inkling that the name began with an "M" so I could have said Mark - but I knew it wasn't Klaus or Richmond - dementia is not that bad yet! Thank you anyway because I'm sure it would have come in useful a few times already if I had known about

Re: revNavigator - Cloning a card - am i doing something wrong?

SO THAT'S how you do it! And do you mean it clones to the topstack? Usually you would clone a card from the message box, and of course it cannot clone to that! Bob S > On Aug 21, 2018, at 02:31 , Geoff Canyon via use-livecode > wrote: > > It turns out I think I'm not doing something wrong,

Re: revNavigator - Cloning a card - am i doing something wrong?

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 7:50 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > SO THAT'S how you do it! And do you mean it clones to the topstack? > Usually you would clone a card from the message box, and of course it > cannot clone to that! > > Bob S > I'm not 100% sure

Re: [ANN] DGH 2.5.1 is released

Great plugin i would say its a must for any developer using DGs otherwise you are doing more work than you need to. except of course for community users. great job, indeed its a great helper. On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 4:44 PM, zryip theSlug via use-livecode <

Re: Surprise...

In case I was unclear, I just meant that the engine still can and should be optimized! As time and budget allows of course, but certainly doable. I doubt it's only the Unicode and nothing else, but either way it doesn't rule out future speed gains. Unicode shouldn't need to slow down

Re: fullscreenmode and rect of a substack on mobile device ?

Brian Milby wrote: > Richard wrote: >> ...another useful detail when placing things within groups under >> most circumstances is to set the lockLoc of the group and everything >> within it. So much becomes so simple that way, and without it the >> automatic accommodate of interior objects

Re: Surprise...

The one optimization that would really help in this particular torture test would be native lists. Then you go from a hash lookup to an index lookup. I know it will be faster than array, but not sure where it would switch over and be faster than item. On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 5:33 PM, Curry

Re: revNavigator - Cloning a card - am i doing something wrong?

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 8:58 AM Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Geoff, > thanks for the quick update. > > There´s another thing i noticed: > > I moved the opened revNavigator stack on the right side of the LC Menu > below the Mac OS X menu bar. > When i

Re: Surprise...

Curry Kenworthy wrote: > In case I was unclear, I just meant that the engine still can and > should be optimized! As time and budget allows of course, but > certainly doable. You know I'm fairly obsessive about performance. Does anyone here have benchmarks comparing LC to Python, JavaScript,

Re: fullscreenmode and rect of a substack on mobile device ?

Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: > @ Richard I did not ask to a "simple" example. > > "Just yesterday I delivered a UI with several hundred controls on a > card, some quite deeply nested within groups. But the layout did not > require writing anywhere close to one line per object. Some was >

Re: Navigator 6.1 alpha1 is out

Hi Geoff, 6.1 alpha 2 = awesome! You fixed the drag and drop bug. Would you post your PayPal so I can show some appreciation? Best regards, Mark Talluto livecloud.io nursenotes.net canelasoftware.com > On Aug

Re: fullscreenmode and rect of a substack on mobile device ?

Bob Sneidar wrote: > I've said this before, and perhaps it bears repeating. Many apps do > not support resizing simply because the nature of the app does not > lend itself to it. I think everyone here would agree with that. When an app doesn't need to do something, don't do it. While most

Re: fullscreenmode and rect of a substack on mobile device ?

Jim Lambert wrote: > A shootout between FSM vs. scripted resizing might make a good LC > Global presentation. > The pros and cons of each. Cases where one may be better than the > other. Etc. > Examples. I touched on it in my LCG talk on UX in October last year. It was only a brief part of the

Re: fullscreenmode and rect of a substack on mobile device ?

> Le 20 août 2018 à 22:36, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > a écrit : > > On 8/19/18 11:11 PM, Ludovic THEBAULT via use-livecode wrote: >> But i found i can get the « real » top and bottom with : round((item 4 of >> the screenrect*the systemscale)/2)-theight // +theight (for the bottom) >>

Re: fullscreenmode and rect of a substack on mobile device ?

On 8/21/18 10:28 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: @ Monte: "mobileSetFullScreenRectForOrientations to set the rects you want the stack to be for each orientation" you mean we can actually set up several of these with the same preopenstack handler! That big news... I

Re: fullscreenmode and rect of a substack on mobile device ?

J. Landman Gay wrote: > But yeah, maybe you and I could team up and do a one-on-one debate. > Someone could set up a rope ring and we could wear boxing gloves. :) Given that we've never disagreed on how to solve a specific resizing problem, I would imagine it would be the most boring debate

Re: fullscreenmode and rect of a substack on mobile device ?

J. Landman Gay wrote: > Auto-resizing does require an awareness during initial layout of how > fullscreenMode works. The objections you've raised can all be dealt > with if you're a stickler for HIG (which even the companies who > publish them don't follow. They're just guidelines.) Of course.

Re: Surprise...

maybe when the new chunk types were added it put some overhead on operations on other chunks? weird On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 4:27 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Wasn't it Unicode that slowed everything, especially string parsing down? > > Bob S > > > >

[ANN] DGH 2.5.1 is released

Dear List Members, DGH 2.5.1 is now available. New: - Formulae Calculation: the installed script is now containing a new handler: DGH_Formulae_RefreshAll. This handler is allowing to refresh the calculation inside the datagrid. Call this function after having populated an empty datagrid to have

Re: fullscreenmode and rect of a substack on mobile device ?

On 8/21/18 1:26 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Jim Lambert wrote: > A shootout between FSM vs. scripted resizing might make a good LC > Global presentation. > The pros and cons of each. Cases where one may be better than the > other. Etc. > Examples. I touched on it in my LCG

Re: fullscreenmode and rect of a substack on mobile device ?

I should step into middle this because our app is under discussion. Jacque: I appreciate your support of LC amazing auto-resizing options. They are truly marvelous But perhaps we take a Big View of Landscape. You have to realize I done web development since 1993. Currently we "evolving" two new

Re: fullscreenmode and rect of a substack on mobile device ?

@Richard, could you elaborate on the lockLoc? I assume you are talking about the part where the group will not resize based on control positions within and that if you set H/W of a control the topLeft remains the same along with images not resizing back to their source's size. Did I miss

Re: Surprise...

Brian: > I expanded my test stack and ran it > on the versions I had available. Thanks for (among other things!) running these tests. It's useful to see the item vs array turning point. I also notice something else, if I read your result correctly: LC9 beats LC8 on these tests (that's a

Re: fullscreenmode and rect of a substack on mobile device ?

Winner gets to eat the worm! Bob S > On Aug 21, 2018, at 13:43 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > J. Landman Gay wrote: > > > But yeah, maybe you and I could team up and do a one-on-one debate. > > Someone could set up a rope ring and we could wear boxing gloves. :) > > Given

Re: Surprise...

Wasn't it Unicode that slowed everything, especially string parsing down? Bob S > On Aug 21, 2018, at 11:00 , Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode > wrote: > > Brian: > > > I expanded my test stack and ran it > > on the versions I had available. > > Thanks for (among other things!) running

Re: Surprise...

I am pretty sure it was the unicode. Notice that 7 took a major hit, but then dramatically improved in 8 and had another step in 9 (for the item). Doesn't look like the array portion changed much after the rewrite (did take a slight step back from 7 to 8, but improved with 9). On Tue, Aug 21,

Re: fullscreenmode and rect of a substack on mobile device ?

Wonderful discussion! @ Bob: agreed that "from ground up" could be one approach. But i have use cases where fully response screen is need and uses case where FSM is the best decision. it not "either" or "or" using resizestack of fullScreedMode So the "tension" behind making that decision can

Re: Navigator 6.1 alpha1 is out

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 3:46 AM Clarence Martin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > My Bad! > I am replying to my own question. > I found that by right clicking on the item and using the "select objects", > I > can hilite and get the object info. > Yep, when Navigator is

RE: Navigator 6.0 Alpha 4

Thanks, Geoff ... and sorry... I guess I didn't dig quite deep enough. I am very "Project Browser" brainwashed... as a result I'm having an "old dog-new tricks" learning curve with Navigator. I just have to manipulate Navigator a bit more than I had to fiddle with the Project Browser. Yes, I

Re: revNavigator - Cloning a card - am i doing something wrong?

Geoff, thanks for the quick update. There´s another thing i noticed: I moved the opened revNavigator stack on the right side of the LC Menu below the Mac OS X menu bar. When i click the arrow icon to collaps the revNavigator stack, then it is moved outside of the screen. I have to change the

Re: For those who do not know lcTasklist

I have it too. Very useful when I have a lot of bugs and new features to deal with. Of course, now my software has no bugs and the app is as awesome as it can be. ;-) Bob S > On Aug 20, 2018, at 16:44 , Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi, > > I´ve purchased the plugin

Re: Surprise...

I expanded my test stack and ran it on the versions I had available. Here's a couple of tests from each version: macOS Sierra (10.12.6) on an iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2014) 4 GHz i7 9.0.1-rc-1 Business / 8.1.9 Business / 7.1.4 Indy / 6.7.11 Indy 34 10 11 10 34 5 LC9 item: 4562 / array:

Re: fullscreenmode and rect of a substack on mobile device ?

I've said this before, and perhaps it bears repeating. Many apps do not support resizing simply because the nature of the app does not lend itself to it. We use an ERP called eAutomate. If you try to load the app on a monitor below a minimum resolution, it bugs out and fails to display a detail

Re: For those who do not know lcTasklist

Also just purchased lcTaskList ... why did I wait sooo long! Extra useful and saves sifting through code notes. Clicking on an item in lcTaskList takes you straight to the line in the script with the corresponding tag .. even opens the script editor if necessary. Highly recommended. -

Re: fullscreenmode and rect of a substack on mobile device ?

A shootout between FSM vs. scripted resizing might make a good LC Global presentation. The pros and cons of each. Cases where one may be better than the other. Etc. Examples. Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Re: fullscreenmode and rect of a substack on mobile device ?

Monte Goulding wrote: > Aha… yes a number of members of the team (myself included) have become > quite familiar with the Siva Siva app. It has exposed/highlighted > quite a number of accelerated rendering issues that we have fixed in > 9.0.1. Thanks, Monte. v9.0.1 is shaping up nicely,

RE: fullscreenmode and rect of a substack on mobile device ?

I'm having the opposite problem with 9.0.1 rc1. I'm narrowing down on the strange rendering in 9.0.1 that doesn't happen in 9.0. Some controls don't show up at all other partially render(only 3 words of a page of text). This happens during the startup procedure before the first time the engine