Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-13 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
The PIC issue will not be resolved for dp 1 as it doesn’t impact our toolchains 
on travis or vulcan and as Mark pointed out there’s a workaround.

> On 14 May 2019, at 10:25 am, Brian Milby via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes, building against develop.
> Using gcc 7.4.0
> 
> This was a laptop I setup about 8 months ago with Ubuntu 18.04.  I loaded all 
> of the build stuff then but ran into the PIC issue and stopped.  I had VMs 
> with 16.04 that I could still use to build on Linux.
> 
> After all of the recent activity I decided to give a build a try and it made 
> it through the link process this time.
> 
> I just pulled everything again and now it fails.  My guess is that I got a 
> “good” copy of prebuilts on my previous build somehow.  I did notice that it 
> downloaded several prebuilts this time.
> 
> Thanks,
> Brian
> On May 13, 2019, 6:13 PM -0400, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
> , wrote:
>> On 5/13/19 12:46 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote:
>>> I was just able to build for the first time in Ubuntu 18.04 and it comes up 
>>> 9.5 (dp 1).
>>> I never went far enough to figure out how to overcome the PIC issue myself 
>>> and waited for it to make it to develop.
>> 
>> It's still in progress.
>> 
>> Are you building against the develop branch?
>> What version of gcc are you using?
>> https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/6953/ broke the current build
>> process. I have to patch a couple of build files to get it to compile.
>> https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/6897
>> 
>> Ian has a new PR on the way.
>> https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/7032
>> 
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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-13 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
Yes, building against develop.
Using gcc 7.4.0

This was a laptop I setup about 8 months ago with Ubuntu 18.04.  I loaded all 
of the build stuff then but ran into the PIC issue and stopped.  I had VMs with 
16.04 that I could still use to build on Linux.

After all of the recent activity I decided to give a build a try and it made it 
through the link process this time.

I just pulled everything again and now it fails.  My guess is that I got a 
“good” copy of prebuilts on my previous build somehow.  I did notice that it 
downloaded several prebuilts this time.

Thanks,
Brian
On May 13, 2019, 6:13 PM -0400, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> On 5/13/19 12:46 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote:
> > I was just able to build for the first time in Ubuntu 18.04 and it comes up 
> > 9.5 (dp 1).
> > I never went far enough to figure out how to overcome the PIC issue myself 
> > and waited for it to make it to develop.
>
> It's still in progress.
>
> Are you building against the develop branch?
> What version of gcc are you using?
> https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/6953/ broke the current build
> process. I have to patch a couple of build files to get it to compile.
> https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/6897
>
> Ian has a new PR on the way.
> https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/7032
>
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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-13 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 5/13/19 12:46 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote:

I was just able to build for the first time in Ubuntu 18.04 and it comes up 9.5 
(dp 1).
I never went far enough to figure out how to overcome the PIC issue myself and 
waited for it to make it to develop.


It's still in progress.

Are you building against the develop branch?
What version of gcc are you using?
https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/6953/ broke the current build 
process. I have to patch a couple of build files to get it to compile.

https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/6897

Ian has a new PR on the way.
https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/7032

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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-13 Thread JJS via use-livecode
I've looked thru the descriptions on how to build it your self on 
github, but never tried it.


Maybe it gives some insights, on the other hand for me it may give to 
much distraction instead of developing the apps i'm working on


Op 13-5-2019 om 21:46 schreef Brian Milby via use-livecode:

I was just able to build for the first time in Ubuntu 18.04 and it comes up 9.5 
(dp 1).
I never went far enough to figure out how to overcome the PIC issue myself and 
waited for it to make it to develop.

Thanks,
Brian
On May 13, 2019, 3:31 PM -0400, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
, wrote:

On 5/13/19 12:13 PM, JJS via use-livecode wrote:

there is also a 9.0.5rc1, so i think they changed it from 9.1.0dp1 to
9.5.0dp1, but unclear why

My guess is that it was originally a typo that then propagated to
several commits, and by that point it was too much trouble to fix. FWIW
the last time I was able to build from source (even after the 9.5
renaming thing) it still came out externally as 9.1.

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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-13 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
I was just able to build for the first time in Ubuntu 18.04 and it comes up 9.5 
(dp 1).
I never went far enough to figure out how to overcome the PIC issue myself and 
waited for it to make it to develop.

Thanks,
Brian
On May 13, 2019, 3:31 PM -0400, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> On 5/13/19 12:13 PM, JJS via use-livecode wrote:
> > there is also a 9.0.5rc1, so i think they changed it from 9.1.0dp1 to
> > 9.5.0dp1, but unclear why
>
> My guess is that it was originally a typo that then propagated to
> several commits, and by that point it was too much trouble to fix. FWIW
> the last time I was able to build from source (even after the 9.5
> renaming thing) it still came out externally as 9.1.
>
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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-13 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 5/13/19 12:13 PM, JJS via use-livecode wrote:
there is also a 9.0.5rc1, so i think they changed it from 9.1.0dp1 to 
9.5.0dp1, but unclear why


My guess is that it was originally a typo that then propagated to 
several commits, and by that point it was too much trouble to fix. FWIW 
the last time I was able to build from source (even after the 9.5 
renaming thing) it still came out externally as 9.1.


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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-13 Thread JJS via use-livecode
there is also a 9.0.5rc1, so i think they changed it from 9.1.0dp1 to 
9.5.0dp1, but unclear why


Op 13-5-2019 om 16:39 schreef Andrew Bell via use-livecode:
Hopefully it's a type for 9.0.5DP1 since 9.0.4 was released today. I 
can't wait to use some new faster Android emulators!


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a minor thing probably i noticed. The 9.1.0DP1 jumped to 9.5.0DP1. Is
this a typo? or do have to wait longer? Just asking.




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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-13 Thread Andrew Bell via use-livecode
Hopefully it's a type for 9.0.5DP1 since 9.0.4 was released today. I  
can't wait to use some new faster Android emulators!


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a minor thing probably i noticed. The 9.1.0DP1 jumped to 9.5.0DP1. Is
this a typo? or do have to wait longer? Just asking.




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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-10 Thread Sphere via use-livecode
a minor thing probably i noticed. The 9.1.0DP1 jumped to 9.5.0DP1. Is 
this a typo? or do have to wait longer? Just asking.



Mark Wieder via use-livecode schreef op 2019-05-06 23:26:

On 5/6/19 3:44 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:

Ah. OK. So the problem with running on the pi isn't with building 
form arm devices, but with interacting with the pi os?


I believe it is largely an issue of getting the build configuration 
and toolchains correct for cross compiling for armv6hf. Although given 
Pi 3s are arm64 but Raspbian is still armv6hf I guess we would need a 
build for a number of archs (armv6hf, armv7, arm64) depending on what 
OS people are running.


For us there is the extra step of getting it all setup on vulcan to 
build and package etc.


Ouch. I didn't realize raspbian was still armv6hf, although it makes
sense for older hardware. That thickens the plot a bit. I'd certainly
settle for an arm64-only build of the LC engine, but shoehorning it
into an arm6hf os seems dicey.


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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-06 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 5/6/19 3:44 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:


Ah. OK. So the problem with running on the pi isn't with building form arm 
devices, but with interacting with the pi os?


I believe it is largely an issue of getting the build configuration and 
toolchains correct for cross compiling for armv6hf. Although given Pi 3s are 
arm64 but Raspbian is still armv6hf I guess we would need a build for a number 
of archs (armv6hf, armv7, arm64) depending on what OS people are running.

For us there is the extra step of getting it all setup on vulcan to build and 
package etc.


Ouch. I didn't realize raspbian was still armv6hf, although it makes 
sense for older hardware. That thickens the plot a bit. I'd certainly 
settle for an arm64-only build of the LC engine, but shoehorning it into 
an arm6hf os seems dicey.


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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-06 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode



> On 7 May 2019, at 3:08 am, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 5/5/19 9:52 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:
>>> On 6 May 2019, at 12:18 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Most new devices will be arm64 however I think what you are seeing there 
 is the binaries that you have for use in an emulator. I have come across a 
 few devices that have arm64 processors but did not include the arm64 OS 
 libraries so only load armv7 binaries. These are generally low end devices.
>>> 
>>> Any chance we can leverage this to create a raspberry pi LC build?
>> Not unless the pi is running android.
> 
> Ah. OK. So the problem with running on the pi isn't with building form arm 
> devices, but with interacting with the pi os?

I believe it is largely an issue of getting the build configuration and 
toolchains correct for cross compiling for armv6hf. Although given Pi 3s are 
arm64 but Raspbian is still armv6hf I guess we would need a build for a number 
of archs (armv6hf, armv7, arm64) depending on what OS people are running.

For us there is the extra step of getting it all setup on vulcan to build and 
package etc.

Cheers

Monte
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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-06 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 5/5/19 9:52 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:



On 6 May 2019, at 12:18 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Most new devices will be arm64 however I think what you are seeing there is the 
binaries that you have for use in an emulator. I have come across a few devices 
that have arm64 processors but did not include the arm64 OS libraries so only 
load armv7 binaries. These are generally low end devices.


Any chance we can leverage this to create a raspberry pi LC build?


Not unless the pi is running android.


Ah. OK. So the problem with running on the pi isn't with building form 
arm devices, but with interacting with the pi os?


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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-06 Thread JJS via use-livecode
Ah ok, that makes it clear. I thought it was related to what one was 
able to build for.


Thanks Monte.


Jerry


Op 6-5-2019 om 01:25 schreef Monte Goulding via use-livecode:



On 4 May 2019, at 3:45 am, JJS via use-livecode  
wrote:

@Monte. I only see Atom x64 ARM for Android 7.1.1 in the SDK list in Android 
Studio. For all the higher Android versions i only see x86 and no ARM. I don't 
know if there are phones sold which have Android 8.x.x based on ARMx64. Do you 
know any details?

Most new devices will be arm64 however I think what you are seeing there is the 
binaries that you have for use in an emulator. I have come across a few devices 
that have arm64 processors but did not include the arm64 OS libraries so only 
load armv7 binaries. These are generally low end devices.

Cheers

Monte
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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-05 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode


> On 6 May 2019, at 12:18 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Most new devices will be arm64 however I think what you are seeing there is 
>> the binaries that you have for use in an emulator. I have come across a few 
>> devices that have arm64 processors but did not include the arm64 OS 
>> libraries so only load armv7 binaries. These are generally low end devices.
> 
> Any chance we can leverage this to create a raspberry pi LC build?

Not unless the pi is running android.

Cheers

Monte
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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-05 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 5/5/19 4:25 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:


Most new devices will be arm64 however I think what you are seeing there is the 
binaries that you have for use in an emulator. I have come across a few devices 
that have arm64 processors but did not include the arm64 OS libraries so only 
load armv7 binaries. These are generally low end devices.


Any chance we can leverage this to create a raspberry pi LC build?

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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-05 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode



> On 4 May 2019, at 3:45 am, JJS via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> @Monte. I only see Atom x64 ARM for Android 7.1.1 in the SDK list in Android 
> Studio. For all the higher Android versions i only see x86 and no ARM. I 
> don't know if there are phones sold which have Android 8.x.x based on ARMx64. 
> Do you know any details?

Most new devices will be arm64 however I think what you are seeing there is the 
binaries that you have for use in an emulator. I have come across a few devices 
that have arm64 processors but did not include the arm64 OS libraries so only 
load armv7 binaries. These are generally low end devices.

Cheers

Monte
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RE: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-03 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
You can have more than one apk in production as long as they target different 
devices. In LCs case that would be 4 apks one for each architecture. The apk 
for the user's device will be automatically selected when installing from 
PlayStore. The size decrease comes from building 4 apks. Each of the 4 apks 
supports 1 architecture instead of 1 huge apk with all 4 engines. If you build 
1 large apk then you can limit the devices your app is compatible with. I use 
the signing and does not create anymore work. It seems to be transparent.

Ralph DiMola
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@Monte. I only see Atom x64 ARM for Android 7.1.1 in the SDK list in Android 
Studio. For all the higher Android versions i only see x86 and no ARM. I don't 
know if there are phones sold which have Android 8.x.x based on ARMx64. Do you 
know any details?

@Ralph, i did not see that (the different builds) yet in the Play Developer 
Console. Or is it only available when you use the signing which is offered by 
Google? (upload and download there signature
etcetera) It is also where your APK can be decreased in size, but i don't think 
it is for builds outside Android Studio? Any experience with that?


Thanks,

Jerry


Op 3-5-2019 om 08:01 schreef Richmond via use-livecode:
> Time to dust off my Intel chip Android tablet
>
> Richmond.
>
> On 3.05.19 г. 1:38 ч., Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:
>>
>>> On 3 May 2019, at 4:07 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow. X86 too! Now we can use the faster emulator. :)
>> Yes that was the main reason for us doing x86 and x86_64 although 
>> there are some devices available for those architectures they aren’t 
>> very common so you probably only want to build for arm7 and arm64 
>> when releasing to avoid bloating your app too much.
>>
>> To make things simpler the Test button for android will detect the 
>> architecture of the target device/emulator and build just for that 
>> even if you don’t currently have it selected in the standalone builder.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Monte
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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-03 Thread JJS via use-livecode
@Monte. I only see Atom x64 ARM for Android 7.1.1 in the SDK list in 
Android Studio. For all the higher Android versions i only see x86 and 
no ARM. I don't know if there are phones sold which have Android 8.x.x 
based on ARMx64. Do you know any details?


@Ralph, i did not see that (the different builds) yet in the Play 
Developer Console. Or is it only available when you use the signing 
which is offered by Google? (upload and download there signature 
etcetera) It is also where your APK can be decreased in size, but i 
don't think it is for builds outside Android Studio? Any experience with 
that?



Thanks,

Jerry


Op 3-5-2019 om 08:01 schreef Richmond via use-livecode:

Time to dust off my Intel chip Android tablet

Richmond.

On 3.05.19 г. 1:38 ч., Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:


On 3 May 2019, at 4:07 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Wow. X86 too! Now we can use the faster emulator. :)
Yes that was the main reason for us doing x86 and x86_64 although 
there are some devices available for those architectures they aren’t 
very common so you probably only want to build for arm7 and arm64 
when releasing to avoid bloating your app too much.


To make things simpler the Test button for android will detect the 
architecture of the target device/emulator and build just for that 
even if you don’t currently have it selected in the standalone builder.


Cheers

Monte
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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-03 Thread Richmond via use-livecode

Time to dust off my Intel chip Android tablet

Richmond.

On 3.05.19 г. 1:38 ч., Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:



On 3 May 2019, at 4:07 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Wow. X86 too! Now we can use the faster emulator. :)

Yes that was the main reason for us doing x86 and x86_64 although there are 
some devices available for those architectures they aren’t very common so you 
probably only want to build for arm7 and arm64 when releasing to avoid bloating 
your app too much.

To make things simpler the Test button for android will detect the architecture 
of the target device/emulator and build just for that even if you don’t 
currently have it selected in the standalone builder.

Cheers

Monte
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RE: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-02 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
You can upload 4 separate builds to Google Play for each the archs and when the 
user installs only the apk for the user's device arch will download. This 
alleviates having one huge apk. Some devices have apk size limits that you can 
hit. The only hitch is that the build number bust be different for each. I am 
working on a IDE build plug-in that will build all 4 to separate apks and 
automatically up the version number by 1 for each arch.
 
Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Monte Goulding via use-livecode
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2019 6:39 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Monte Goulding
Subject: Re: Android needs 64 bit builds



> On 3 May 2019, at 4:07 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wow. X86 too! Now we can use the faster emulator. :)

Yes that was the main reason for us doing x86 and x86_64 although there are 
some devices available for those architectures they aren’t very common so you 
probably only want to build for arm7 and arm64 when releasing to avoid bloating 
your app too much.

To make things simpler the Test button for android will detect the architecture 
of the target device/emulator and build just for that even if you don’t 
currently have it selected in the standalone builder.

Cheers

Monte
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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-02 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode


> On 3 May 2019, at 4:07 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wow. X86 too! Now we can use the faster emulator. :)

Yes that was the main reason for us doing x86 and x86_64 although there are 
some devices available for those architectures they aren’t very common so you 
probably only want to build for arm7 and arm64 when releasing to avoid bloating 
your app too much.

To make things simpler the Test button for android will detect the architecture 
of the target device/emulator and build just for that even if you don’t 
currently have it selected in the standalone builder.

Cheers

Monte
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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-02 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

Wow. X86 too! Now we can use the faster emulator. :)

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On May 2, 2019 12:24:21 PM JJS via use-livecode 
 wrote:



Jacque, check the image on this page :
https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/pull/1990

:)


Op 1-5-2019 om 23:23 schreef J. Landman Gay via use-livecode:

Fantastic. Thank you.

On 5/1/19 3:30 PM, JJS via use-livecode wrote:

it will be in 9.1

Op 1-5-2019 om 17:33 schreef J. Landman Gay via use-livecode:

I remember your question and have also been waiting for a response.
Hopefully someone on the team will see this, but if not a note to
support may give us an answer.

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HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On May 1, 2019 9:08:38 AM Andrew Bell via use-livecode
 wrote:


This was originally mentioned in a message at the end of January, but
that thread never went anywhere. I submitted an updated app to Google
Play today and noticed the warning message myself for the first time.
It seems we have a few more months to prepare for this, but can't
recall seeing any mention of this on the LiveCode roadmap.

https://developer.android.com/distribute/best-practices/develop/64-bit

--Andrew Bell





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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-02 Thread JJS via use-livecode
Jacque, check the image on this page : 
https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/pull/1990


:)


Op 1-5-2019 om 23:23 schreef J. Landman Gay via use-livecode:

Fantastic. Thank you.

On 5/1/19 3:30 PM, JJS via use-livecode wrote:

it will be in 9.1

Op 1-5-2019 om 17:33 schreef J. Landman Gay via use-livecode:
I remember your question and have also been waiting for a response. 
Hopefully someone on the team will see this, but if not a note to 
support may give us an answer.


--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On May 1, 2019 9:08:38 AM Andrew Bell via use-livecode 
 wrote:



This was originally mentioned in a message at the end of January, but
that thread never went anywhere. I submitted an updated app to Google
Play today and noticed the warning message myself for the first time.
It seems we have a few more months to prepare for this, but can't
recall seeing any mention of this on the LiveCode roadmap.

https://developer.android.com/distribute/best-practices/develop/64-bit

--Andrew Bell





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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-01 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

Fantastic. Thank you.

On 5/1/19 3:30 PM, JJS via use-livecode wrote:

it will be in 9.1

Op 1-5-2019 om 17:33 schreef J. Landman Gay via use-livecode:
I remember your question and have also been waiting for a response. 
Hopefully someone on the team will see this, but if not a note to 
support may give us an answer.


--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On May 1, 2019 9:08:38 AM Andrew Bell via use-livecode 
 wrote:



This was originally mentioned in a message at the end of January, but
that thread never went anywhere. I submitted an updated app to Google
Play today and noticed the warning message myself for the first time.
It seems we have a few more months to prepare for this, but can't
recall seeing any mention of this on the LiveCode roadmap.

https://developer.android.com/distribute/best-practices/develop/64-bit

--Andrew Bell



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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-01 Thread JJS via use-livecode

it will be in 9.1

Op 1-5-2019 om 17:33 schreef J. Landman Gay via use-livecode:
I remember your question and have also been waiting for a response. 
Hopefully someone on the team will see this, but if not a note to 
support may give us an answer.


--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On May 1, 2019 9:08:38 AM Andrew Bell via use-livecode 
 wrote:



This was originally mentioned in a message at the end of January, but
that thread never went anywhere. I submitted an updated app to Google
Play today and noticed the warning message myself for the first time.
It seems we have a few more months to prepare for this, but can't
recall seeing any mention of this on the LiveCode roadmap.

https://developer.android.com/distribute/best-practices/develop/64-bit

--Andrew Bell


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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-01 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I remember your question and have also been waiting for a response. 
Hopefully someone on the team will see this, but if not a note to support 
may give us an answer.


--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On May 1, 2019 9:08:38 AM Andrew Bell via use-livecode 
 wrote:



This was originally mentioned in a message at the end of January, but
that thread never went anywhere. I submitted an updated app to Google
Play today and noticed the warning message myself for the first time.
It seems we have a few more months to prepare for this, but can't
recall seeing any mention of this on the LiveCode roadmap.

https://developer.android.com/distribute/best-practices/develop/64-bit

--Andrew Bell


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Re: Android needs 64 bit builds

2019-05-01 Thread Andrew Bell via use-livecode
This was originally mentioned in a message at the end of January, but  
that thread never went anywhere. I submitted an updated app to Google  
Play today and noticed the warning message myself for the first time.  
It seems we have a few more months to prepare for this, but can't  
recall seeing any mention of this on the LiveCode roadmap.


https://developer.android.com/distribute/best-practices/develop/64-bit

--Andrew Bell


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