Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-04 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
So many interesting, thoughtful and thought-provoking responses - I am overwhelmed. Thank you. I can't reply to each of them - flooding the list with 24 responses would be somewhat anti-social :-), so I'll arbitrarily pick the most recent (as I type) and respond to it, with responses to

Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-04 Thread Peter W A Wood via use-livecode
Andre > I am talking beyond the current HTML5 deployment (which I don't own a > license and can't play with) I thought that you can deploy to HTML5 with the community licence. The GPL wouldn’t put you off playing with it, would it? Peter ___

RE: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-04 Thread Erik Beugelaar -Solidit via use-livecode
-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Andre Garzia via use-livecode Sent: 04 December 2017 15:51 To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> Cc: Andre Garzia <an...@andregarzia.com> Subject: Re: Livecode Content Management System Taking a tangential lin

Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-04 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Andre Garzia work: > So far, most of our web efforts have been "PHP-inspired", as in our > server engine behaves like PHP and our frameworks look and feel like > PHP frameworks. Thank you for bringing that up. There are a great many design decisions with the LC Server CGI that do mirror the

Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-04 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
While not exactly a CMS, I used LC as a paypal button code generator (encrypted buttons using openssl as the basis.) My little program generates a complete paypal button for each item and stores it in an sqlite database. It also takes an image drop and generates 2 sizes for the gallery I use. A

Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-04 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
Taking a tangential line of thought in this thread, I think there is value in exploring "more focused" or "less flexible" solutions than complete CMSs to gauge the feasibility of a CMS project. Specially if it is something like David said that leverages the Desktop value of LC while spewing out

Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-04 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
I don't see much value in building a CMS or CMS front end. There is value in a CMS, but not I'd saying in making another CMS. Build on revIgniter as Dave says? On 3 December 2017 at 12:57, Dave Kilroy via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Alex > > My instinct would be to

Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-03 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Dave Kilroy wrote: > Well of course if you put it that way I don’t want to do anything to > discourage exploration, let a 1,000 flowers bloom etc and I’d love > to see a LC CMS > > However our community IS a lot smaller than Python’s... I am sometimes prone to fits of optimism. :) -- Richard

Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-03 Thread Dave Kilroy via use-livecode
Well of course if you put it that way I don’t want to do anything to discourage exploration, let a 1,000 flowers bloom etc and I’d love to see a LC CMS However our community IS a lot smaller than Python’s... Kind regards Dave Richard Gaskin wrote: > revIgniter is one of the best open source

Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-03 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Dave Kilroy wrote: > My instinct would be to build on revIgniter rather than start another > (possibly competing) project - I would be much more likely to > contribute to an enriched revIgniter than to two disjointed projects revIgniter is one of the best open source projects in the LiveCode

Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-03 Thread Dave Kilroy via use-livecode
Hi Alex My instinct would be to build on revIgniter rather than start another (possibly competing) project - I would be much more likely to contribute to an enriched revIgniter than to two disjointed projects My two penneth… Kind regards Dave Alex Tweedly wrote: > I'm looking for

Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-03 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
I was talking about this with a couple programmer friends recently. It seems almost a right of passage these days for devs to start making a custom CMS. Some even finish them. :) All of them learn useful things. One of my friends learned to really appreciate Jekyll. The other splits his

Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-02 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
Alejandro, You could but there lies a question of why should you do it? The idea of storing flat files is that they are easy to edit by a human. Most flat file CMSs use Markdown plus a frontmatter in YAML these days and that is really a good system. Check out GravCMS, Jekyll, Metalsmith, Hexo,

Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-01 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
Hey Alex, Long time, no see! Hope all is well over there. Its that time again when I pop up out of nowhere and write a long email, sorry for the longform text but I am kind of a sucker for CMSs. as pointed before by Ralf, CMSs are tricky business and quite hard to get it right. It is easy to get

Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-01 Thread Simon Smith via use-livecode
Hi I have played with this a bit, and got pretty far for a proof of concept for an ecommerce project I was working on. I stopped working on it when I left the company I was working for. I did not use rev igniter since I wanted it to function as it's own framework and I think it just makes the

Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-01 Thread Ralf Bitter via use-livecode
Hi Alex, here are my offhand and fairly blunt thoughts on your undertaking. First of all I think that the primary challenge in building a CMS, no matter if you use LiveCode, PHP or whatever, is to provide a tool for an audience which is not that tech-savvy. So, the process of managing web content

Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-01 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
I code in LC and use the debugger testing revIgnitor controllers locally, then upload them to the revIgniter site to test remotely. This happens all within the script editor. I use stacks as libraries both locally and with revIgnitor. That way I feel you get the best of both worlds. It works by

Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-01 Thread Robert Brenstein via use-livecode
I have been using LC to generate complete websites but I use LC only as a generator of HTML pages from data files and database content, using CSS for theming and HTML hierarchical template files that call LC functions through merge. I believe that Richard Gaskin is still selling a commercial

Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-01 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
Hi Alex, As much as I think revigniter is brilliant at what it does I really think if this is going to be done it should be done in LC totally. 1. The first reason which you in the fact brought up that we could use the IDE to debug 2. If PHP can do it why not Livecode? 3. I'm really hating

Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-01 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
I recently started working with livecode server and revigniter after 5 years of strictly desktop dev..so I'd definately be able to help contribute to the development. I gotta say I love wordpress. but there is one thing I love more than that and its Livecode. So put me down for a yes.

Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-01 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
On 01/12/2017 02:47, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode wrote: Could your LCMS import (and use) templates and themes from other CMS platforms like Joomla or WordPress? Unlikely. Wordpress themes are written in PHP (or, if you like, HTML with a lot of embedded PHP), so it's hard to see how I

Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-01 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
Hi Alex, I'm working on this too in the coming weeks. I'd be happy to work on it with you if it were on GitHub. I'm working on the following aspects: 1. Static site generation and integration with relevant tool chains 2. Integration with revIgniter 3. Docker based hosting infrastructure

Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-11-30 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 11/30/2017 05:56 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: Here are the requests for input 1.  has anyone tried this before ? and did you succeed ?  or why did you stop ? any foreseeable problems to contend with ? I finally gave up on LiveCode and am now working with the combination