Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-06-06 Thread Bob Sneidar
I agree Stephen. Sometimes software companies make changes because they, “have to do something!” I don’t think that is a good reason for changing anything. Look at Microsoft! Every three years on EVERY SOFTWARE PRODUCT THEY SELL, they HAVE to produce a major upgrade, or risk pissing off

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-06-06 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: Why did we need ribbons again? I first learned of the Ribbon through a post Dan Shafer made here on this list back in 2005: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2005-October/067709.html I might have been more skeptical, but citing Jakob Nielsen made it

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-06-06 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: liked Office XP better than anything they have since produced. Word 5.1/Excel 4 for the Mac. It's been downhill since then . . . -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-06-06 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Friday, June 6, 2014, 2:46:57 PM, you wrote: Long after it shipped one of the Ribbon team leaders, Jensen Harris, gave this talk at a UX conference - long, but IMO well worth the time: UX Week 2008: Jensen Harris, The Story of the Ribbon http://vimeo.com/3305642 Yes,that's

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-29 Thread Igor de Oliveira Couto
On 29 May 2014, at 12:38 pm, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: I find Mavericks auto-save pretty useless actually. When you go back into their time machine interface you can only see the first page of the document (and nothing at all for many types of files.) […] If you do a

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-29 Thread Peter Haworth
That said, there's an auto-save plugin (RevSmartSave) that ships with LC for those who want it. LcStackBrowser does this too, either at timed intervals or on request, along with an optional user supplied comment. Versions can be restored from a list showing the creation date and time along

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-29 Thread Peter Haworth
On May 29, 2014 7:49 AM, Igor de Oliveira Couto i...@semperuna.com wrote: Now, how useful would that be if we were able to do the same from, let’s say, inside a stack window (viewing previous versions of an interface), or directly from the script editor?… LcStackDiff provides a way to view all

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-29 Thread Kay C Lan
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:55 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Except for Preview, which is document based but auto-closes. On my Mavericks 10.9 3 and Preview 7.0 (826.4), Preview is in a league of it's own. With all the other mentioned auto-close apps, when the last window is

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread Igor de Oliveira Couto
On 28 May 2014, at 1:54 pm, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: On my 10.9.3 a slew of Apple and non-Apple apps all remain open after I've closed the last window. The one's that do auto-close seem to be sensible ones: System Preferences for many versions of OS X has auto-closed when the

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread stephen barncard
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Igor de Oliveira Couto i...@semperuna.comwrote: unnecessary annoyance. But I have to admit, that after watching new users play with these features, they ARE easier to learn - all the confusion about when to use ‘Save/Save as…’ is gone, and they find using

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread Igor de Oliveira Couto
I understand how you feel: On 28 May 2014, at 5:43 pm, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: Sorry, I don't buy that. The changes just require more stupid clicking than needed to do what was easy before. I can take care of my own file management, thank you, and I hate

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread divya navaneeth
Respected Sirs, I am new in livecode .Could you plz tell me hoe can we search for certain words or chars inside a textile and deleting unwanted words Thank you in Advance -- Divya S Sathyan RSGP Condulting pVt ltd ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread divya navaneeth
-- Forwarded message -- From: divya navaneeth divya.r...@gmail.com Date: Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:05 PM Subject: Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Respected Sirs, I am new in livecode .Could you plz tell me how can we

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread J. Landman Gay
Except for Preview, which is document based but auto-closes. It seems there is no firm rule about this but in general Apple is following the established behavior. I guess I'll do the same, partly for consistency and partly because I prefer it. On May 28, 2014 2:37:36 AM CDT, Igor de

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread Richard Gaskin
stephen barncard wrote: This dumbing down crap should be optional, not forced on us. Björnke version: Options can get expensive over time, introducing a form of technical debt. TL/DR version: http://livecodejournal.com/blog/2014-05-28-design-options.html -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 5/28/2014, 4:35 AM, divya navaneeth wrote: Respected Sirs, I am new in livecode .Could you plz tell me hoe can we search for certain words or chars inside a textile and deleting unwanted words The easiest way is to use the replace function to replace the words you don't want with empty:

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread Björnke von Gierke
My Version? Excuse me? What? A minor annoyance on Mavericks is that Text Edit does indeed close automatically when the last text file is closed, slightly less annoying, so does preview. Sadly, I do expect more apps to follow in the next version of OS X. I do like the new saving behaviour tho,

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread Richard Gaskin
Björnke von Gierke wrote: On 28 May 2014, at 19:19, Richard Gaskin wrote: stephen barncard wrote: This dumbing down crap should be optional, not forced on us. Björnke version: Options can get expensive over time, introducing a form of technical debt. TL/DR version:

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Ah! Well, I thought you where quite rambly there, and the point was actually a simple one. So that's why I did that. I regret nothing.  On 29 May 2014, at 02:01, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: My Version? Excuse me? What? Consider it a customized summary. :)

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread Richard Gaskin
Björnke von Gierke wrote: Ah! Well, I thought you where quite rambly there, and the point was actually a simple one. So that's why I did that. I regret nothing.  There's nothing to regret. On the contrary, many of my posts do tend to get longer than needed. You have a good editorial eye.

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 5/28/2014, 6:51 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: Just imagine, never hitting save, but always having a save of every change you ever made within the stack itself, without cluttering your disk and filesystem with dozens of saves Like HyperCard did. I was never so glad to get rid of auto-save as

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-27 Thread Peter M. Brigham
On May 27, 2014, at 5:55 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: It used to be that a Mac app should never quit when its last window was closed, except in the case of single-window utilites. The menubar remained and the app kept running. Now that Mavericks quits apps for you when the last window

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-27 Thread Igor de Oliveira Couto
On 28 May 2014, at 12:39 pm, Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com wrote: Another reason for me to delay running Mavericks as long as I possibly can. Is this true for apps like Word and TextEdit, too??? I have been using Mavericks exclusively in all my Macs since it came out, and have now

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-27 Thread Kay C Lan
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com wrote: Another reason for me to delay running Mavericks as long as I possibly can. Is this true for apps like Word and TextEdit, too??? If so, my motivation is further reinforced. What the hell is Apple thinking of, changing