Hi,
Just thought i would let you all know of some serious problems i have run
into switching a stack from metacard to revolution. I hope some of the
problems below are just from switching mid project.
The project was nearing the end and i decided to try out revolution to
see if it would help
I've got a strange problem which I'm prone to call a bug and yet I'm
reluctant to 'go-there' without some guidance from the group (fearing I may
have pulled some bone-head stunt that makes it my fault).
Here's the story - I'm parsing data (thanks to those who pointed me in some
very good
On 10 Aug 2004, at 00:59, Andre Garzia wrote:
Chipp,
thank you very much for the reply! I am investigating what type of
damn-proxy I am dealing with, but I think it uses no auth, for the
students have no login and the explorer shows no auth...
I am receiving weird errors, in some machines it
Tuviah wrote..
MDI, ActiveX how many people need these vs things like answer file with
extension. Seems not many from looking at the bugzilla votes. If you want
these features, vote for them:-)
Just a thought on the voting system...If (and its a big if) the user base is
predominantly focused
Stephen King wrote:
Tuviah wrote..
MDI, ActiveX how many people need these vs things like answer file with
extension. Seems not many from looking at the bugzilla votes. If you want
these features, vote for them:-)
Just a thought on the voting system...If (and its a big if) the user base is
Hi Erik,
--- Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, i think i have to put something clear!
That is a FAKE actually!!!
was ist denn ein ersatz was denn?
Atama wo tsukatta hou ga ii.
Kyuuryou ga totemo ii kara, watashi ha depaato de hataraku
koto ni shimashita.
OK? :-D
Erich
Regards
Klaus Major
...We would like to encourage the authors of the remaining contributions
and
new contributions to upload them to Revonline...
You are referring to Revonline in the beta 2.5 correct?
Correct.
Without access
from inside a corporate firewall, Revonline is useless to me (at work
anyway).
I believe the focus on ActiveX is a bit short sighted once RR can make native OS calls
(GetProcAddress, LoadLibrary ...) ActiveX, OLE, COM, COM+, CORBA, ImageMagik, PVM are
just steps away. As far as interfacing with Java I see no need to haul a 40+ MB
virtual machine around! The major
K a *crit :
Kevin
NOTE: I would appreciate if someone from RR would explain the design of the RR low
level functions so we (the users) can extend the language.
Yep, agreed. that would be VERY nice.
BTW this is one of the 2 major reasons why I dropped
the developpement of an openGL
BTW I just recalled that among other projects I had
a year ago, there was the implementation of 2D anti-
aliased vector graphics using openGL.
I had found plenty of opensource code that needed
very little adaptation.
I remember starting to work on it, but pretty soon the
impossibility to extend
It actually reminds
me of macintalk!
Are you referring to the original MacinTalk of System 6 (or perhaps
even earlier)? My wife would joke that the (single) voice sounded like
a Roumanian diplomat. The synthesizer and its rules all fit into 34
kb, if I remember correctly.
-Kurt
Oh, something important I forgot! The Runtime Revolution Stacks/Windows must be a
ActiveX container or provide a interface to be subclassed. Otherwise ActiveX
components (with graphics footprint) would not be viable. The RAD would also need to
consider design time properties (a enormous job
Is there any way to intercept the script ptoperty for all objects?
Kevin
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Any resemblance between the above views and those of my
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coincidental.
Any resemblance between the
On Tuesday, August 10, 2004, at 12:13 AM, Bob Nelson wrote:
Along the way, the parsed data gets put into a field holder and the
next
parsed line gets added to the end - no big deal, normally! However,
I'm
getting strange characters when the third or fourth line is written
in
succession. And
In a message dated 8/9/04 10:07:56 PM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MDI, ActiveX how many people need these vs things like answer file with
extension. Seems not many from looking at the bugzilla votes. If you want
these features, vote for them:-)
Tuviah
-- As long as RR states support for
Marian Petrides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Historical note: Macintalk came with the earliest Macs, so it
was around since System 3 (the earliest MacOS I remember) if
not even earlier.
It is debatable which computer company had speech synthesis first. I
remember Macintalk, but I also remember
On Aug 10, 2004, at 7:41 AM, K wrote:
As far as interfacing with Java I see no need to haul a 40+ MB
virtual machine around!
Is there such a thing as a machine that doesn't have Java installed
anymore?
I guess I don't know, on OSX the latest VM is just part of the OS, and
Java apps don't take
At 09:58 10/08/2004 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 8/9/04 10:07:56 PM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MDI, ActiveX how many people need these vs things like answer file with
extension. Seems not many from looking at the bugzilla votes. If you want
these features, vote for them:-)
On Aug 10, 2004, at 7:41 AM, K wrote:
I believe the focus on ActiveX is a bit short sighted once RR can make
native OS calls (GetProcAddress, LoadLibrary ...) ActiveX, OLE, COM,
COM+, CORBA, ImageMagik, PVM are just steps away.
Not being a Windows-based programmer, I'd have to ask - would doing
Not all Java Virtual Machines are created equal! A company I worked for shipped a
product that required the SUN virtual machine (not the MSFT look alike). The most
significant compliant from Fortune 500 administrators/companies was the deployment of
the Java Virtual Machine.
K
This would allow the development of RR extensions that do not involve a C++ compiler
or significant knowledge of C++. I imagine this functioning like the Visual Basic
Declare statement (only with a significant IDL)which allows Visual Basic to call WIN32
without C++ knowledge.
Kevin
Not
3 sounds right. Mac plus time if im correct...
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Petrides
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 14:48
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: OT MacinTalk
Historical note: Macintalk came with the
MDI sounds like win3.11 technology... beuah... ;)
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Tweedly
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 17:24
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Subject: Re: voting, done it. :)
At 09:58 10/08/2004 -0400, [EMAIL
Not clear what you mean here, Kevin. You don't intercept properties
as such. Do you mean you want to override the script or are you trying
to intercept the editScript message?
On Aug 10, 2004, at 6:40 AM, K wrote:
Is there any way to intercept the script ptoperty for all objects?
Kevin
I think this is a known issue... about to go away along with the animation
builder...
:(
Judy
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, Greg Hall wrote:
Hi. I just started using revolution trial on OS X, and it works good so
far but I am having a problem with animation being uselessly slow on OS X.
I am going
I know what you mean, Bob. The program is not a discussion list reader, so
hyperlinked ToC access to threaded posts is not really going to happen, I'm
afraid. Requests for an improved Rev list interface would be best directed to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
However, as of v4 you do have built-in
Actually MacInTalk was introduced with the very first Mac in 1984, so that
at the unveiling it could introduce itself...
see http://developer.apple.com/technotes/pt/pdf/pt_22.pdf
Here's an excerpt:
For the introduction of the Macintosh computer, it was decided (by the
powers formerly in charge)
K-
Tuesday, August 10, 2004, 4:41:47 AM, you wrote:
K I believe the focus on ActiveX is a bit short sighted once RR
K can make native OS calls (GetProcAddress, LoadLibrary ...) ActiveX,
I did the LoadLibrary and GetProcAddress external calls some time ago,
but without engine support they aren't
using an iMac OS 9.2
how can multiple lines of message box script be comment
without typing -- in front of every line
selecting multiple lines and typing cmd- will not work :-(
i know that the first line of msg script can not be commented,
without an error msg
thanks in advance for help
I see some posts that talk about the 2.5 and 2.6 engine of RR.
I'm a bit confused, as I just started using RR and the current version
(for OS X anyway) is 2.2.1.
Does the engine have a different version than the IDE, or are these both
future versions currently being worked on?
On Aug 10, 2004, at 2:49 PM, Greg Hall wrote:
Does the engine have a different version than the IDE, or are these
both
future versions currently being worked on?
The engine can, and generally does, have a different version number
than the IDE.
--
Troy
RPSystems, Ltd.
http://www.rpsystems.net
Does your implementation support *nix platforms?
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Disclaimer:
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employer, my terminal, or the view out my window are purely
coincidental.
Any resemblance between the above and my own views is
Sorry, I did not explaine the situation well enough. I seems that when I execute a
wait with messages for a specific contition and another event execute a wait with
messages on a different condition the seconds wait cancels the first.
Kevin
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So in the interest of mining the rev-list archive I have thrown
together the last 800+ messages from this month and created two
different versions of the same MTML file.
If you go to http://www.gizmotron.org/intuition/download.html you will
see at the bottom links for the free Intuition
On Aug 10, 2004, at 12:01 PM, Wouter wrote:
To simplify the question:
if a socket is opened like in:
open socket to 127.0.0.0:8080 with message gotit
with rev engine 2.6 and before, the cpu usage is slowly but steadily
growing
(and faster if there are connections)
with rev engine
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 16:17:45 +0100
From: Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is Rev too Mac focused?
To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 8/8/04 8:27 am, Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark Weider
On Aug 10, 2004, at 2:06 PM, K wrote:
Sorry, I did not explaine the situation well enough. I seems that
when I execute a wait with messages for a specific contition and
another event execute a wait with messages on a different condition
the seconds wait cancels the first.
The waits will nest.
While I'm new to Rev, I haven't found any way to natively use .dbf (dBase,
FoxPro, etc.) files. It appears that I need to find a dBase library.
After searching the list (Google) and looking at a few vendors I have come
up blank. Is there one out there somewhere?
Dave
On Aug 10, 2004, at 8:40 AM, Bill wrote:
PS It must be a feature or other people that have tried printing cards
would
complain...
I have just made a habit of giving my backgrounds a color (usually
white).
Before I understood inheritance issues, this one stumped me as well.
--
Best regards,
Mark
On Aug 10, 2004, at 2:26 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
It looks like a bad thread is running when any socket is open. It
might be polling.
This looks like bugzilla food to me.
I don't see any new threads added. A polling thread might be OK under
some conditions.
Normally Rev makes 200 system calls a
Can anyone tell me if there's a way to detect on Mac OS X if IE is installed,
via Revolution? Since the user could move IE to other locations on their
hard-drive, I can't really detect via file-path.
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I've got a group of objects that are grouped together within a scrolling
group object on a card, and I'd like to print the contents of that group, even
though it's not all visible on the screen at once? Is this possible in Rev?
All the parameters for the print command appear to be card and
Hello,
Le 10 août 04, à 22:59, Dar Scott a écrit :
On Aug 10, 2004, at 2:26 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
It looks like a bad thread is running when any socket is open. It
might be polling.
This looks like bugzilla food to me.
I don't see any new threads added. A polling thread might be OK under
some
I have been setting callbacks on my players so that when the audio file
is done (wav files), i can hide the pause button. i found that i have had
to pull the end callback time to at least 10 ticks from the total
duration of the file when loaded into the player to get consisitant
callbacks
I would check in the Applications folder, then in the user's
Applications folder (if it exists). If you haven't found it by then,
ask the user where it is (allowing them to say it isn't there) and
store it's location in the custom property for use next time. If it has
been moved out of the
Mark Brownell wrote:
Not sure what you are doing but there is a limit to how much
information may be contained in a single line of a field object. I
would try putting your parsed data into a global variable to see if
that solves the problem.
HTH,
Mark
First, THANK YOU!
Second, I
Re: opening sockets and cpu usage
From: Pierre Sahores
Subject: Re: opening sockets and cpu usage
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:31:47 -0700
Hello,
Le 10 aot 04, 22:59, Dar Scott a crit :
On Aug 10, 2004, at 2:26 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
It looks like a
Can this be done in a frontscript with out any significant anomalies? Meaning can I
place this code in a frontscript so that every object runs through my macro system?
Kevin
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On Aug 10, 2004, at 6:44 PM, Takaaki Furukawa wrote:
I see some posts that talk about the 2.5 and 2.6 engine of RR.
The version numbers of Engines seem to be based on MetaCard
rather than Revolution. Some versions of Revolution Engine are even
called
mc and if you do mc -h you'll see the credit
I recall from using RealBasic in the past that there is some AppleEvent
you can execute that locates a program based on its creator code. I think
there is some way to enter this into Script Editor, but I forget what the
command is.
This would enable you to find any copy of IE on the users system
On 8/9/04 9:00 AM, Chris Sheffield wrote:
Can anyone tell me the reasons for memory not getting freed up like it
should?
I have an application that consists of a login stack, another main stack
where most of the program functionality occurs, and then several other
external stacks (stored as
It sounds to me like an interesting endeavor... one thing I had
contemplated in the past was using the same means to write an xTalk
optimizer which would optimize your code before compiling. Unroll some
loops, change things like put x+2 into x to add 2 to x, maybe even
translate repeat loops
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I'm a relatively novice Mac developer who's done most of my work in
AppleScript and AppleScript Studio. (See my website,
http://www.wordtech-software.com/aqua.html for some samples.) I started
with these tools to get familiar with programming logic
On Aug 10, 2004, at 11:04 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
1. How closely does Rev resemble AppleScript--not in terms of its hooks
into the Mac OS, but on a more general scale--its syntax, its
programming logic, etc.? Does a background in AppleScript and
AppleScript Studio lessen the learning curve
I use this function to 'get' the version of the IDE and the Engine. It
works for both MetaCard and RR.
on answerVersion pWhere
if exists(stack revMenuBar) then
put RunRev version: revAppVersion() return MetaCard
engine version: the version return Build Number: the
buildNumber
On Aug 11, 2004, at 1:12 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
The Primer on Message Mechanics might give you some ideas, too. Find
it here:
http://www.swcp.com/dsc/revstacks.html
That's a wonderful tutorial Dar. The animated message path simulation
is great!
Thanks for posting that.
Yup. Should be
Gang,
I've been in the archives looking for others who may have had trouble
with the errorDialog message.
While most of the posts dealt with the errorData this message delivers,
my problem revolves around trapping this message with a handler in the
IDE. I am developing a script editor and want
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