Michael is a friend and colleague and I've never heard him
characterized as biased. Maybe the problem is he tells a truth you
can't or don't want to hear, Xavier!
:-D
Dan
On Jul 18, 2005, at 10:58 PM, MisterX wrote:
Micheal Swaine is a Mac bigot and i've never seen a response from him
or
You wrote:
Hi Dan
A friend of mine pointed me to an intriguing business concept called
RansomWare and as I thought about it, it seemed there might be some
possible use for it in the Rev developer community. Under this model, a
developer offers to produce a given product, sets a development
Michael Swaine unbiased? H. I'll file that under I believe it when I
see it. He's been a 'Mac guy' as long as you have, Dan! Frankly, I don't
no anyone who's truly 'unbiased' when it comes to Mac vs PC.
Besides Dan, you don't honestly believe the nonsense Mark is talking
about..having to
FWIW, I used to reboot my Win95 machine regularly.
But then again, I used to reboot my Mac OS 9 machine regularly too. :)
With OS X and XP, I don't reboot any more.
Maybe Swain should upgrade his PC?
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Dan,
I think it's an interesting concept, as 3rd party products are just
starting to gain some steam in the Rev community.
For the sake of discussion, what about something like this:
Form a group development account where those of us interested in
3rd party products can make a deposit. You
--- david bovill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looking into sending xmlrpc calls that require basic
http
authentication... any ideas as it is not documented
in the xmlrpc
create request, but is AFAIK part of the libUrl
stack... just can't
find any docs at the moment...
Hi David,
While you
Mark:
My only point was that eventually is measured in weeks here, not in
hours or days. With Win 98, it was often measured in minutes.
:)
Jon
Mark Wieder wrote:
Jon, Chipp-
Monday, July 18, 2005, 4:11:17 PM, you wrote:
CW I concur with Jon. I regularly use 3 separate Windows XP
On 19 Jul 2005, at 10:56, Jan Schenkel wrote:
--- david bovill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looking into sending xmlrpc calls that require basic
http
authentication... any ideas as it is not documented
in the xmlrpc
create request, but is AFAIK part of the libUrl
stack... just can't
find any
yep, sorry, i guess we had to read
that Swaine remark with twist of sarcasm ;)
X)
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Thanks for all the help. Let's see if I understand this process:
Mac:
1. Load the font files as binaries into custom properties, probably
properties of a stack, like so:
set the myStoredFont of stack My Stack to URL binfile:VeraMono.ttf
2. At runtime, check if the fonts are installed on the
On Jul 18, 2005, at 9:15 AM, Chris Sheffield wrote:
Hi Trevor,
This is great. I've been looking for a good solution to this
problem for quite some time. I've been using a partial solution
with the EXT.dll, but it doesn't always work.
One question: Will this work on any version of
On Jul 18, 2005, at 10:47 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Trevor-
Sunday, July 17, 2005, 12:25:01 PM, you wrote:
TD I don't know what a critical section is so it made the decision
much
TD easier :-)
g
As I understand it, they're almost the same thing - mutexes work with
multiple threads in an
Dan,
Why not a capitalist/capitalist model:
1. Developer or users suggest a tool/product define specs.
2. One or more developers bid to create the tool/product per spec. at a
specific price
3. Investors provide the money and get ownership based on the
percentage they
Hi PL,
Le 19 juil. 05 à 17:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
Dan,
Why not a capitalist/capitalist model:
1. Developer or users suggest a tool/product define specs.
2. One or more developers bid to create the tool/product per
spec. at a
specific price
3. Investors provide the
This happened to be word for word my best economic model for TAOO ;)
I call it contribution economic returns on a free lunch...
;) Sorry, i jumped late in the thread ;)
cheers
Xavier
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[EMAIL
Oh gosh, guys, thanks so much. I was away all evening and didn't get
back to the computer until about 1121748600 (Jacque standard time,) and
there was all this nice stuff about me here. I'm not used to it, but it
was so nice of Tim and all the rest of you. Made my day (which up till
then wasn't
Just checked my handy copy of Jacques Pepin's Cooking for Capitalists and
thats the exact recipe for camel. ;-)
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Dear list members,
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Hi Ray
mac or windows?
mac - applescripts
windows - shell tools like Postie.exe (or others)...
they do everything as far as i
Hello,
I am having problem with Save As Standalone App.
I have a Rev file (about 400,000 KB) when I save it as standalone app
(making an exe file). It took a long time to finish. The exe file
size
is only 1,620 KB. I could not open it. I don't know what's wrong.
Could someone help
I want to save out a compressed copy of the stack. How do I reference
the stack as a file? I tried
put compress(URL file: the effective filename of this stack) into
url myFilePath
but that just saves the string.
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I want to save out a compressed copy of the stack. How do I reference
the stack as a file? I tried
put compress(URL file: the effective filename of this stack) into
url myFilePath
but that just saves the string.
When you use URL, you need to be sure that the
Hi Brad,
put url( binfile: the effective filename of this stack) into
tData
if the platform = MacOS then
put the fileType into tFileType
set the fileType to ZIP
end if
put compress(tData) into url(binfile: myFilePath .rev.gz)
if the platform = MacOS then set the
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On Jul 19, 2005, at 12:01 AM, Dan Shafer wrote:
A friend of mine pointed me to an intriguing business concept
called RansomWare and as I thought about it, it seemed there
might be some possible use
I like this concept. The pledge model (Paypal cash perhaps) with an
open accounting of
I am working through the Dan Shafer book and couldn't find the Shao Sean's
Calendar Object
A previous Runrev submission said that it was at...
http://www.shaosean.tk/
But it is NOT posted.
Does anybody have this stack for me to download. Or could you email it to
me?
Thank you very much,
Richard-
Monday, July 18, 2005, 11:52:37 PM, you wrote:
RG FWIW, I used to reboot my Win95 machine regularly.
RG But then again, I used to reboot my Mac OS 9 machine regularly too. :)
RG With OS X and XP, I don't reboot any more.
To be fair, the article I'm thinking of probably *was* vintage
Dan-
Monday, July 18, 2005, 11:33:36 PM, you wrote:
DS Michael is a friend and colleague and I've never heard him
DS characterized as biased. Maybe the problem is he tells a truth you
DS can't or don't want to hear, Xavier!
Why, Dan, you almost make being biased sound like a bad thing... g
By some amazing coincidence, is there anyone out there who might have
knowledge about the structure and format of EnCase forensic software
report files? I want to parse and analyse them in order to generate
what might be called a 'meta-report'.
For those of you who know what EnCase is and
I develop on the Mac (OS X 10.4.2) and my current project highlights
buttons while the actions they lead to are taking place. On Windows
XP, the stack's instruction set the highlight of me to true colors
the entire button black. (Theme is standard Windows) Any way to fix
this
I have a script to upload a file to an ftp site:
libURLftpUpload compress(fData), myURLstring
repeat while URLStatus(myURLstring) is NOT uploaded
put URLStatus(myURLstring) the long time
end repeat
but this is the message I get:
uploading, 511814,511814 1:30:32 PM
so it looks
Well, Dan,
I guess this goes to show that people are reading (and, hopefully, hence,
_buying_) your book, so I'm hoping we'll be seeing Vol. II sometime soon??
Judy
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005, Michael Mandaville wrote:
I am working through the Dan Shafer book and couldn't find the Shao Sean's
On Jul 18, 2005, at 4:34 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
These days there's plenty of work to go around. Let's just hope
Rev doesn't become so popular that we get commoditized like VB and
Java programmers ;)
It's a good thing for future Rev scripters that I don't own the
company: it's
On Jul 19, 2005, at 6:29 AM, Brad Borch wrote:
Thanks for all the help. Let's see if I understand this process:
Mac:
1. Load the font files as binaries into custom properties,
probably properties of a stack, like so:
set the myStoredFont of stack My Stack to URL binfile:VeraMono.ttf
2.
Timothy-
Monday, July 18, 2005, 4:04:38 PM, you wrote:
TM I've retained Jacque (as in J. Landman Gay) as a Rev consultant, on a
Ah... you're in good hands then. Just watch her estimates - she tends
to list everything in seconds these days... g
TM (BTW, the debugger anomaly, discussed last
There is another way to check if an instance is running
that will work on all OS. When you start the program you
create a file if it is not already there. If it is there
then you close the program.
I hope this helps.
Sincerely, Matt
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I have an application with one main stack and 6 substacks. For some
reason, all the substacks are displayed in the right location on my
computer which I used to develop the application. I tried the
application on a different computer and all the substacks are display in
different
Thanks to all for responding to my request. Unfortuantely Chip's altPlugin
only seems to accept .png as a graphic format, so I went ahead and made some
32 x 32 pixel .png icons for RevNet, Color Picker, Resource Picker and
Scripters Scrapbook. They're not glamourous, but at least they are a
On 7/19/05 1:44 PM, Timothy Miller wrote:
Actually, Jacque posted it on BZ. I didn't feel qualified to confirm it
was a bug. She thought that if no one else had noticed it, it couldn't
be a very serious problem, and Rev would probably fix it pretty quick
anyway. I hope I quoted you correctly,
On Jul 19, 2005, at 11:35 AM, Matthew wrote:
There is another way to check if an instance is running that will
work on all OS. When you start the program you create a file if it
is not already there. If it is there then you close the program.
I hope this helps.
Unfortunately you will run
Not to make this a debate, but...
What I don't like about the system below (and why I think it hasn't
happened already to any great extent) is:
* Investors will have to put a lot more money up for the developer to
give up ownership of the product to the investors
* Multiple investors owning a
I just like reading the subject line, and didn't want this thread to die.
-Chipp
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Brian, I agree with you. Especially about the 'multiple owners' part.
Having 1 or 2 partners isn't bad, but too many more and Chris is right
about 'the camel.'
But, that being said, I do think it can work out where everyone has
ownership of the code and can do what they want with it outside
Anyone know if a license is still required to export snapshot ... as GIF? If
so, what does this cost? -Jim
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I don't think this was brought up as a way to create products for
profit. It is a way to finance upgrading tools for everyone with the
primary programmer being paid a reasonable hourly wage. Am I reading
this wrong???
Dennis
On Jul 19, 2005, at 4:07 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:
Brian, I
briany writes:
* Investors will have to put a lot more money up for the developer to
give up ownership of the product to the investors
* Multiple investors owning a product and dividing profits is a pain
(and not so lucrative)
... I don't think a 3rd party Rev product split too many ways
excites
Jim Bufalini a *crit :
Anyone know if a license is still required to export snapshot ... as GIF? If
so, what does this cost? -Jim
please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the patent
expired recently, at least for certain countries...
JB
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Anyone know if a license is still required to export snapshot ... as GIF? If
so, what does this cost? -Jim
please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the patent
expired recently, at least for certain countries...
JB
indeed, a simple google search about gif patent will give you
This idea, if implemented properly, would make it easier to create new
products that are too big for individual developers and too small (or
unimportant) for the Mother Ship.
PL
what kind of products do you guys have in mind ?
Rev improvements (like libraries, Transcript
Regarding point 1:
There is no reason why the developer can't be one of the
investors. Lets
say the developer bids a 20,000 project and the investors agree to this
price. Three investors invest 5,000 each. The developer discounts
his/her
contribution 5,000. Everyone has 5,000 invested and
This idea, if implemented properly, would make it easier to create new
products that are too big for individual developers and too small (or
unimportant) for the Mother Ship.
PL
one more (rather paranoid) thought : to find investors you need
to advertise your project publicly,
Dennis,
Good point. We should probably figure out which it is.
I'll be totally frank- I'm much more likely to participate in this as
the developer, and so that probably has everything to do with why I
would craft up a scenario in which I would have sufficient incentive to
participate in.
Last I tried, 'export...as GIF' works.
-Chipp
Anyone know if a license is still required to export snapshot ... as GIF? If
so, what does this cost? -Jim
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On 19 Jul 2005, at 18:33, Brad Borch wrote:
I have a script to upload a file to an ftp site:
libURLftpUpload compress(fData), myURLstring
repeat while URLStatus(myURLstring) is NOT uploaded
put URLStatus(myURLstring) the long time
end repeat
but this is the message I get:
Hi Nicolas,
(oh! how I wish arcadeEngine had come out
just a couple of weeks earlier!)
I had a hard time keeping me from posting that there´ll be something to
help soon. :-)
As for the maze itelf, the only options I
see are to draw the maze either with
(a) a graphics application and then
A stack's location is set thru its location
property. For example, if the coordinates of the
right location for a substack/stack are 800,400
then try this in that stack's script:
on preOpenstack
set the location of me to 800,400
end preOpenstack
You can likewise retrieve the location of a
It's always refreshing to come back to this list.
I've been on a journey exploring financial models for open source and
Creative Commons content creation and community building... currently
involved in applying the concepts talked about here to open software
and digital film and video content
I try to build a standalone for various platforms. When I check Mac OS
fat and Mac OS 68k in Standalone Application Settings dialog, Rev 2.6
offers to download the engines but soon says Problem downloading
engine. The engines I manually downloaded from ftp.runrev.com
Chipp,
Hmmm. It *appears* to work, but trying to link to it from html viewing in MS
IE doesn't work (shows the little X in a frame), and for example FireWorks
says its an unknown format. On the other hand, it does display in FireFox,
Design mode of DreamWeaver and Windows XP preview! I have no
Ban Nguyen wrote:
It took so long to finish. I created a new folder to save it. I opened
the folder. It has two file myfile.rev(400,000 KB) and myfile.exe(1,650
KB). I clicked on the myfile.exe. It displayed an error: cannot open
file myfile.exe, error message 0, 0
Does anyone have
JB,
I envision a registry where users request tools, products, even
projects. Investors can pledge, and eventually commit funds. Developers can bid
on the
work.
These can be Rev-involved (like a new debugger or menu builder), third
party (like a report maker or a chart maker),
Thomas von Fintel wrote:
I try to build a standalone for various platforms. When I check Mac OS
fat and Mac OS 68k in Standalone Application Settings dialog, Rev 2.6
offers to download the engines but soon says Problem downloading
engine. The engines I manually downloaded from ftp.runrev.com
Michael Mandaville wrote:
I am working through the Dan Shafer book and couldn't find the Shao Sean's
Calendar Object
A previous Runrev submission said that it was at...
http://www.shaosean.tk/
But it is NOT posted.
Does anybody have this stack for me to download. Or could you email it to
Dennis,
That is the way I read it, too. It's not for developing full scale
applications, as it is for developing tools that are important to the
community. The *profit* is that, while one group of people are financing the
development of one tool, another group is financing the development of
Jim Bufalini wrote:
Hmmm. It *appears* to work, but trying to link to it from html viewing in MS
IE doesn't work (shows the little X in a frame), and for example FireWorks
says its an unknown format. On the other hand, it does display in FireFox,
Design mode of DreamWeaver and Windows XP
Derek,
I also looked at the file with a text viewer and it's identified as a
GIF87a
A text editor, why didn't I think of that! :-) OK, mine are starting out
before import as GIF89a and after Export are ÿØÿà. This meaningful to
anyone?
Jim
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Everyone,
Just figured it out. A bad switch statement was causing my script to export
... as JPEG with a file extension of .gif :-(( This confused some
browsers/programs and not others. Those funny characters are what you see at
the beginning of a JEPG. So, the answer is, you don't need a
David,
I am by no means an advanced programmer in Rev, but I have been using
Regex alot lately. This is what I have discovered in my use of Regex
in Rev:
On Monday, July 18, 2005, at 06:25 PM, David Vaughan wrote:
Is it greedy? If so, is that reversible and how?
* and + are greedy. The
JB,
I like your take on it. It is pretty open and flexible to the
project scope.
Dennis
On Jul 19, 2005, at 6:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
JB,
I envision a registry where users request tools, products, even
projects. Investors can pledge, and eventually commit funds.
Developers
Jim,
We have a whole community of very clever people. I am sure it could
be accomplished if we had a will to do it.
Dennis
On Jul 19, 2005, at 7:06 PM, Jim Bufalini wrote:
Dennis,
That is the way I read it, too. It's not for developing full scale
applications, as it is for developing
On 20/07/2005, at 10:15, Mark Greenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David,
I am by no means an advanced programmer in Rev, but I have been
using Regex a lot lately. This is what I have discovered in my use
of Regex in Rev:
snip
I highly recommend the book Mastering Regular
Depends on your point of view, I guess, but then *that* would be
biased. Sigh.
On Jul 19, 2005, at 8:57 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Why, Dan, you almost make being biased sound like a bad thing... g
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Michael
I've posted the object on my site.
Go to http://www.altuit.com/webs/dshafer/RevolutionPros/MyStuff.htm
Scroll down to the place where the calendar object is mentioned and
click on the Link button.
On Jul 19, 2005, at 9:46 AM, Michael Mandaville wrote:
I am working through the
Judy (and others).
It is difficult to get the word out to a community which doesn't read
every message on this list faithfully every day and remember
everything they've read. Darned humans.
Anyway, just so it's clear
There are no plans to release Volumes 2 3 of my Software at the
Brian.
This model isn't intended to apply to the concepts of investors
who own anything in return for the money they put up. I suspect it
works primarily if not only for software ultimately intended to be
distributed free.
On Jul 19, 2005, at 12:30 PM, Brian Yennie wrote:
Not to
Well, your model, as you point out is, sort of the way things are
done now. I think the idea of ransomware was to find an alternative
approach that would involve less legalistic stuff and more open sharing.
Clearly both models can co-exist with many others.
On Jul 19, 2005, at 8:05 AM,
Intriguing twist and amplification of the proposal, Brian. I think
it's important to keep the thing really simple and Im not sure
whether the complexity your approach adds would push the idea over
the effectiveness cliff. But I like the way you think and process stuff!
dan
On Jul 18,
Just a quick note to those of you who might actually care that my old
Rev site is back online in a new incarnation.
http://www.revolutionpros.com
Main interesting feature other than my opinions ( :-D ) is the place
where I've resumed my practice of digesting interesting (to me)
threads
Dan,
Thanks. It's far from perfect, but I find is just interesting enough
that I might participate if it were alive =).
With that said, is there a group of people that are interested in
taking something like this off-list and trying to reach consensus to
build something? Or has it run it's
Ok, I'm feeling pretty dumb, but why doesn't my openstack handler
execute when my stack opens? What am I not getting? (I type
openstack into the messagebox after opening and all is well, but the
handler doesn't execute when opening my stack from scratch.)
Mark
Hello Malte,
Thanks for replying. And I'll take up your suggestion
of continuing this on the ArcadeEngine forums.
One more question here, though?
How would you like to create the maze? Randomly
(a bit hard) or from a set of template mazes?
Your a bit hard is surely hair-tearing hard for me,
I hope someone more knowledgeable jumps in but...
Perhaps another stack is handling the openStack
message before it arrives to your targeted stack?
Or you might want to try preOpenStack instead.
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Thanks, but I had no luck with preopenstack, either. And the stack
is the main stack, there are no others in the project at this point.
Mark
On Jul 19, 2005, at 7:28 PM, Nicolas Cueto wrote:
I hope someone more knowledgeable jumps in but...
Perhaps another stack is handling the
Ok, I'm feeling pretty dumb, but why doesn't my openstack handler
execute when my stack opens? What am I not getting? (I type
openstack into the messagebox after opening and all is well, but
the handler doesn't execute when opening my stack from scratch.)
I had the feeling that the open
Mark,
Here's what I would do:
First, I would put an 'on OpenStack' handler in the first card script of
the stack.
then save it, close Rev, open Rev, choose the browse tool, and open your
stack. See if the debugger gets called. If not, then I would suspect
there's an openStack handler in a
Well, I can help keep it going!
Jacque's support has helped me rise above User Level = Amoeba to User
Level = Protozoa ;-)
Thanks, Jacque! Can't wait until I've evolved into, say, something that
walks/crawls on land :-D
Judy
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005, Chipp Walters wrote:
I just like reading the
oops, I accidently deleted the 'first part' ;-)
Chipp Walters wrote:
Mark,
Here's what I would do:
First, I would put an 'on OpenStack' handler in the first card script of
the stack.
on openStack
breakpoint
beep
end openStack
then save it, close Rev, open Rev, choose the browse
Yup, I'm a darned human. Drat! I suppose it's too late to try to find an
ex post facto Vulcan egg donor now, isn't it? ;-)
Anyway, what about those of us who paid up-front for all 3 vols?
I'm sure you've answered this already (and maybe even to me privately for
all I can recall; darned brain
Hair-tearing out confusing for me, too. Is your bird's eye view cartesian
or orthoscopic? If the former, it's probably doable. I gave up on the
latter. I'm a math weenie.
Judy
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Nicolas Cueto wrote:
Hello Malte,
Thanks for replying. And I'll take up your suggestion
of
Has anybody used Rev to password protect a section of a website, rather than
using ASP or CF or other database solution? Just a basic login page, and if
anyone tries to go directly to a subdirectory of the login page, without
logging in, they get bounced back to the login page? CGI can do this.
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