Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread kee nethery
The cache of being associated with Hypercard most likely. Frankly, I'm finding it to be the only solution that meets my need for implementing a state machine style of business logic. It's fast to build in and gets the job done. I only wish it was easy to have if be an Apache module

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 12/1/05 9:26 AM, Alessandro Manotti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think RunRev is not yet so mature (and maybe a little too expensive...) to be used in big company projects (not only to create beautiful electronic books, kiosks, etc...). Note, big companies means -- collective work so

Re: CAN REVOLUTION ACHIEVE THIS?

2005-12-01 Thread Stephen Barncard
Nicolas, It's not clear whether you just want advice or are offering a project possibility. sqb Dear Fellow Revolution Users, I have recently come across the revolution software and am quite impressed by it, however am not a developer and thence am requesting your comments and

Re: Documented Cursor Bug...Please try.

2005-12-01 Thread Stephen Barncard
YEP. Did it here. Affirmative. MAC OS 10.3.9 Powerbook G4 17 1.33 ghz Latest Rev IDE and engine. Here's the deal. I would very much appreciate it if many of you could test out this simple recipe stack: -Chipp -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - -

Re: AW: Front Stack/Window???

2005-12-01 Thread Alex Tweedly
Richard Gaskin wrote: Alex Tweedly wrote: . It's in Stacks as 4W UmbrellaMan Duh. Sorry - my eyes must be going I looked and looked - but just missed it. btw - each time I use GoRevNet, it downloads the 137Kb stack. Is it supposed to do that ? How do I stop it ? (Actually, I

Re: Documented Cursor Bug...Please try.

2005-12-01 Thread Ton Kuypers
Problem confirmed. MAC OS 10.4.3 Powerbook G4 Last Rev IDE and engine Hope this one gets fixed or their will be a workaround... I have this problem when a user enters name and password in a login stack and hits enter to continue... very annoying... Ton Kuypers Digital Media Partners bvba

No background in painted rect

2005-12-01 Thread mail
Hello list, now I wanted to paint a rect filled with Color. So i wrote: .. choose rectangle tool put 100 , 100 into LinksOben put 200 , 50 into RechtsUnten put 200,50,100 into RGB_Color set the brushcolor to RGB_Color set the pencolor to RGB_Color --für den Rand drag from

Re: No background in painted rect

2005-12-01 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Richard you need to set the opaque of the polygon to true... To find more about paint, there's always the rev documentation... Using the search instead of the filter should help find more... Alas painting in Rev is not that good... It's far easier and better to import ready made art into

Re: Documented Cursor Bug...Please try.

2005-12-01 Thread Wouter
Hi, Same config as Ton Kuypers same results. On closing the stack no field messages are sent. Only a suspendstack message can be trapped, usable for a workaround. Greetings, WA On 01 Dec 2005, at 10:14, Ton Kuypers wrote: Problem confirmed. MAC OS 10.4.3 Powerbook G4 Last Rev IDE and engine

Re: CAN REVOLUTION ACHIEVE THIS?

2005-12-01 Thread Nicholas Nginya
Sorry for that, Yes it is a project possibility! I need someone who can make it happen! Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicolas, It's not clear whether you just want advice or are offering a project possibility. sqb Dear Fellow Revolution Users, I have recently come

Re: Documented Cursor Bug...Please try.

2005-12-01 Thread Wouter
On 01 Dec 2005, at 11:03, Wouter wrote: Hi, Same config as Ton Kuypers same results. On closing the stack no field messages are sent. errata: exitfield is sent. Greetings, WA ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Jerry Muelver
- Original Message - From: Dan Shafer Subject: Re: Why isn't Rev more popular? 1. As a small company, RunRev doesn't have the resources to get the product as widely promoted as it could if it were larger. That's a Catch-22. The only solution to the problem framed that way would be

Re: OT - MySQL, PHP, and Japanese text

2005-12-01 Thread Dave Cragg
On 30 Nov 2005, at 23:45, N Cueto wrote: Good questions about Japanese and mySQL for which I hoped someone would pipe in with some good answers. In the meantime, here's the little I know. 2) at MySQL admin-level, does Japanese text require a special data type or data setting? It's

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Wolfgang Bereuter
On 01.12.2005, at 02:50, Mark Swindell wrote: What is the main reason (if there is such a thing) that Rev is not more popular among professional developers/programmers? Because professional developers are (should) *not*, did I say *not* the right target market für that kind of tool rev

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Alessandro Manotti
I think Rev has a big potential. I'm an old user of Asymetrix Toolbook (I used it up to version 3). It was great. Even if I'm a analyst/programmer, I don't think the programmers already have all the instruments. In this new age (network age), the real missing system is a way to create rich client

Re: Documented Cursor Bug...Please try.

2005-12-01 Thread Dave LeYanna
Got stuck as predicted. Windows XP Media Center Edition Version 2002 Service Pack 2 Intel Pentium M 1.8 GHz 512 MB Ram DAve Chipp Walters wrote: Hi all, Jerry Daniels and I spent about an hour today trying to create a very simple recipe to replicate the 'Cursor stuck on I-beam' phenomenon

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Bob Hutchison
Hi, Being new here, and a professional programmer for getting frighteningly close to 30 years now, maybe I should say something... There is no such homogeneous group as professional developer/ programmer (and you clearly understand this on some level because you wrote developer/programmer

Re: No background in painted rect

2005-12-01 Thread Ken Ray
On 12/1/05 3:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list, now I wanted to paint a rect filled with Color. As Xavier mentioned, you need to set the opaque to true, but I'm curious - is there a reason you need a *painted* rect? It would be a lot easier to use the graphic

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Ken Ray
On 12/1/05 7:49 AM, Bob Hutchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Being new here, and a professional programmer for getting frighteningly close to 30 years now, maybe I should say something... Well said, Bob! Getting Rev into the sounds familiar category would be good first step - but that

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread xavier . bury
warning, this email contains a big sig Actually, the bck door would have been Slashdot. Im just so curious Rev hasn't done anything to get their logo up in their top banner... In the least Rev is Slashdot hot, im surprised none one tried a little PR to get an article in there... Then again,

How to Disable the Preference and About Box Items

2005-12-01 Thread David Burgun
Hi, How do I go about disabling the Preferences and the About Box Items? I am running under MacOS X Tiger and I have the Preferences Item defined in the edit menu. I disable the Edit Menu and the items contained in it are shown as dimmed, how However the preferences item that is moved to

HTML-editor

2005-12-01 Thread Bob Hutchison
Hi, Whatever happened to Morten Rognes' HTML-editor? Is there another available? Cheers, Bob Bob Hutchison -- blogs at http://www.recursive.ca/hutch/ Recursive Design Inc. -- http://www.recursive.ca/ Raconteur -- http://www.raconteur.info/

Re: ANN: Phun Physics

2005-12-01 Thread Jim Hurley
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:51:51 -0700 From: Roger Guay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ANN: Phun Physics To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I've added fireworks

How to get the Version Number?????

2005-12-01 Thread David Burgun
HI, Is there anyway I can get the version information (or any of the other fields) that is entered in the Standalone Application Setting dialog in a script? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: Documented Cursor Bug...Please try.

2005-12-01 Thread Roger Guay
Yes, it sticks on my Mac w OS 10.4.3 and Rev v. 2.6.1. Roger On Dec 1, 2005, at 1:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The instructions are plain, and you can get back to me on this list whether or not your curson got 'stuck.' It's been tested on Windows XP but not much on other platforms. It

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Chipp Walters
OK, my turn and 2 cents worth. Here are some other reasons why I believe RR is not popular. 1) The company is based in Scotland. It's one thing when your primary programming language is owned by Apple, a whole other risk assessment when owned by a small company in Scotland. 2) A largely

Editing Styled Text in RunRev

2005-12-01 Thread Bob Hutchison
Hi, I'm getting to be a bit of a pain, sorry about that, but I'm going to ask anyway. I'm not having much luck with finding some of the answers to my questions in the docs (partly terminology differences, partly conceptual differences, partly runrev doesn't do everything, of course, and

RE: Documented Cursor Bug...Please try.

2005-12-01 Thread Harvey Toyama
Hi Chipp, Bug is repeatable on: Windows XP Professional Version 2002, Service Pack 2 -- Harvey -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chipp Walters Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 8:38 PM To: Use-Revolution Subject: Documented Cursor

Re: Editing Styled Text in RunRev

2005-12-01 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hi Bob, Le 1 déc. 05 à 17:39, Bob Hutchison a écrit : 1) Is there a text editor out there that I can use? 2) Can I indent paragraphs? 3) What can/can't I do with images in text? 4) Can I assign custom properties/custom styles/custom something to chunks to represent two pieces of additional

Re: Editing Styled Text in RunRev

2005-12-01 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hi Bob, Sorry, a typo in point 4: 4. Any chunk of text supports the *linktext* property that may count several lines if needed :-) Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and

Re: Documented Cursor Bug...Please try.

2005-12-01 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Chipp, Hi all, Jerry Daniels and I spent about an hour today trying to create a very simple recipe to replicate the 'Cursor stuck on I-beam' phenomenon most of us see regularly. I've built cursor libraries in the past to fix this, but the latest Rev engine (Windows) goes bezerk with

Revolution is not Tablet PC compliant

2005-12-01 Thread Rob Cozens
Hi All, I have just completed my first round of testing RunRev for TPC (Tablet PC) compliance. Sadly, it is the least compliant application I have run on my TPC in the year+ I've owned it. :{( There are small issues, such as the IDE not recognizing changes in screen orientation; but the

Re: How to Disable the Preference and About Box Items

2005-12-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
David Burgun wrote: Hi, How do I go about disabling the Preferences and the About Box Items? I am running under MacOS X Tiger and I have the Preferences Item defined in the edit menu. I disable the Edit Menu and the items contained in it are shown as dimmed, how However the preferences

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Dan Shafer
Bob One of the best-thought-out posts I've seen on this list in the 3 or so years I've been hanging around. I agree with most of it. I trust RR's marketing folk will take it to heart. On 12/1/05, Bob Hutchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Being new here, and a professional programmer for

No background in painted rect

2005-12-01 Thread R. Hillen
Hello Xavier, hello Ken, thank you for your help. Message: 3 Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 10:55:30 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: No background in painted rect Hi Richard you need to set the opaque of the polygon to true... To find more about paint, there's always the rev

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Bob Warren
On 11/30/05, Mark Swindell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the main reason (if there is such a thing) that Rev is not more popular among professional developers/programmers? It's been around awhile now. People have had a chance to hear about it. It has garnered some awards, at least on

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Dan Shafer
Chipp.. Great contribution to an important discussion. To your point below about RR's isolationism, I think another evidence of that is the company's virtually complete absence from this list. I know the company is small and I know they're really busy but that's not really a legitimate

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Marty Billingsley
Judy Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, Dan Shafer wrote: 4. It's not taught at the university level. I take exception to that!!! (okay, I see your point... I'm doing my small part, however, as is Devin I assume). There's a two-quarter sequence taught using RR at the

ImageSource with images of various sizes

2005-12-01 Thread Paul Claude
I have a list field with the first char of each line as image through the imageSouce property, setted dinamically; the problem is that if an image is big, the field became fool, unreadable. There is a way to show an image that must have a maximum size as the list field need (using always the

Re: Documented Cursor Bug...Please try.

2005-12-01 Thread Mark Wieder
Chipp- Yep. Verified here under win2k and Unbuntu linux as well. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription

Re: ImageSource with images of various sizes

2005-12-01 Thread Ken Ray
On 12/1/05 12:14 PM, Paul Claude [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a list field with the first char of each line as image through the imageSouce property, setted dinamically; the problem is that if an image is big, the field became fool, unreadable. There is a way to show an image that must

Re: No background in painted rect

2005-12-01 Thread Alex Tweedly
R. Hillen wrote: Hello Xavier, hello Ken, thank you for your help. I looked everywhere in the documentation, but it was not very helpfull. I know, all is written there, but to find it and how it is connected together, is another thing. But I found a little stack and learned from it,

Auto-Arm Buttons

2005-12-01 Thread Sivakatirswami
I must be missing something... I seem to have forgotten and now it is not obvious to me, how to auto-arm a button so that it changes on mouse within (automatically) reversing the type and background. I don't see auto arm in the IDE props palette and if I set auto arm to true in smart props

RE: No background in painted rect

2005-12-01 Thread MisterX
Richard, To look for things in the revdocs, think of what object you are modifying. if you know the name of the property you are looking for search the Reference - that's the icon on top of the revdocs. Search graphics, you'll find soon the right property too via the see also. That's how I

Re: Editing Styled Text in RunRev

2005-12-01 Thread Ken Ray
On 12/1/05 10:53 AM, Eric Chatonet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bob, Le 1 déc. 05 à 17:39, Bob Hutchison a écrit : 1) Is there a text editor out there that I can use? 2) Can I indent paragraphs? 3) What can/can't I do with images in text? 4) Can I assign custom properties/custom

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hi Chipp, Great post :-) I fully agree! I'm a bit surprised by Runrev refusals about your interesting initiatives: I did not think they were, let us say, a bit obstinate... This can have evolved yet or will evolve shortly. At least I hope so :-) They were (and are yet) a small company: grow

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Jim Ault
Not that I have been looking, mind you, but there are probably darn few ads for Programmers proficient in Revolution and cross-platform development. Will pay great salary commensurate with experience and resume A friend of mine made is retirement package by sticking his neck out many years ago

Re: Revolution is not Tablet PC compliant

2005-12-01 Thread Jeffrey Reynolds
Aww nutz, I have a whale research project next year we were hoping to use tablet pcs on with rev to collect data. hadnt gotten my hands on a tablet pc to test rev yet. Is this something that we might see coming into rev in the next version? The tablets are just starting to mature now and

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Dec 1, 2005, at 8:25 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: Guy Kawasaki has written about this and has been successful in promoting the 'sum is greater than the parts' philosophy. For those who don't know who Guy Kawasaki is you might be interested in watching a talk he gave at Stanford. He is

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Pondering the many posts in this thread I'm not sure I could contribute much of value, since Chipp covered many of my own thoughts, esp. re. the usefulness of a US presence and the need for a completely unambiguous differentiation between the pro and hobbyist products. But I did have one

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Jerry Daniels
Bob, Regarding the Rev IDE: Some of us are moving ahead with significant supplements to the Rev IDE with the full support of Runtime Revolution. Check us out: http://www.daniels-mara.com/products Best, Jerry Daniels Daniels Mara, Inc. On Dec 1, 2005, at 11:47 AM, Bob Warren wrote:

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Phil Davis
Thanks for the balance, Richard. Phil Davis Richard Gaskin wrote: Pondering the many posts in this thread I'm not sure I could contribute much of value, since Chipp covered many of my own thoughts, esp. re. the usefulness of a US presence and the need for a completely unambiguous

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Dec 1, 2005, at 12:13 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: Some of us are moving ahead with significant supplements to the Rev IDE with the full support of Runtime Revolution. Check us out: http://www.daniels-mara.com/products And some of us have been using these significant Rev IDE supplements

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Ton Kuypers
I second that! I have started with Hypercard, used Toolbook, VB and SuperCard and finally ended with Revolution... All of the mentioned tools have their bugs and strange behaviours, but none of them allow expanding the IDE as much as RR does. I've created a few tools for my daily use but

regex question

2005-12-01 Thread Mark Wieder
All- Is there a way to tell matchChunk() not to be greedy? I've got a regular expression stumper here. I'm using regex with the matchChunk() function and I've BZed a problem with it. Now I'm looking for a workaround that still manages to use matchChunk(). MatchChunk() is apparently implementing

[ANN][EN][FR] Rev Online Watcher Release

2005-12-01 Thread Eric Chatonet
Paris, Thu, Dec 1, 2005 -- English version - Hello, So Smart Software has the pleasure of announcing the availability of Rev Online Watcher 1.0, a plugin that informs you discreetly at Revolution startup when new stacks have been uploaded to Rev

Re: IDE, engine, and font problems (part two)

2005-12-01 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Wilhelm Sanke wrote: I now have stumbled accross a real (negative) killer feature (for Windows XP) that I had attached to a three-year old rudimentary version of the color toolkit. I had experimented with using small thumb images as color and pattern input for further processing and

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Chipp Walters
Richard Gaskin wrote: Just how popular does Rev need to be? And as long as RunRev Ltd. is appropriately right-sized (please pardon the corporate-speak), there's no reason why it can't be quite profitable for the owners, even at the current audience size. Extra bonus points that the audience is

Re: Revolution is not Tablet PC compliant

2005-12-01 Thread Martin Baxter
Rob Cozens wrote: I write (in script) One two three in the Writing Pad after giving focus to a field, and I get: OnumToChar(0)nnumToChar(0)enumToChar(0) numToChar(0)tnumToChar(0)... in the field. This happens in both the Development System and standalones. I suspect the problem is tied to

Re: regex question

2005-12-01 Thread Martin Baxter
Mark Wieder wrote: All- Is there a way to tell matchChunk() not to be greedy? I've got a regular expression stumper here. I'm using regex with the matchChunk() function and I've BZed a problem with it. Now I'm looking for a workaround that still manages to use matchChunk(). MatchChunk() is

Revolution and mySQL 5.0 on WinXP

2005-12-01 Thread John Tregea
Hi again, I have been able to connect Rev to mySQL 5.0 on OSX, but on winXP I have had to drop back to mySQL 4.1 to get a connection. Does anyone have any experience with this? Or can guide me to be able to connect to mySQL 5.0 on WinXP Pro? Thanks in advance John t

Unhiliting Radio Buttons

2005-12-01 Thread Fred Giannetto
Hello, I am finishing an example of an online lesson plan with a test. Do I have to manually unhilite every radio button when the card (or stack opens) or is there someway I can unhilite them all at once, *possibly with a wildcard operator* (they are spread out over 4 different cards).

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Steve
I'm just getting into Rev so I am by no means an expert but When in colledge as a CS major (late 80s) I remember lots of snobbery around tools like hypercard by hardcore CS people. Personaly I think a tool should be as high level as possible while still getting the job done. I later

Re: Unhiliting Radio Buttons

2005-12-01 Thread Chipp Walters
set the hilitedbutton of grp fred to none Fred Giannetto wrote: Hello, I am finishing an example of an online lesson plan with a test. Do I have to manually unhilite every radio button when the card (or stack opens) or is there someway I can unhilite them all at once, *possibly with a

Re: How to Disable the Preference and About Box Items

2005-12-01 Thread David Burgun
David Burgun wrote: Hi, How do I go about disabling the Preferences and the About Box Items? I am running under MacOS X Tiger and I have the Preferences Item defined in the edit menu. I disable the Edit Menu and the items contained in it are shown as dimmed, how However the preferences

Re: How to check what card a stack is currently viewing

2005-12-01 Thread David Burgun
get the Name of this stack -- what you see in the stack inspector --stack Showcase Functions (which could be a main or sub stack) Except if you are running in a Function in the stack script that has been called by another stack in this case it returns the name of the calling stack. To always

Re: How to Disable the Preference and About Box Items

2005-12-01 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hi Dave, You told me yesterday about Inside Mac. There is a volume about guide lines since the beginning of Apple. That's the reason why Mac Apps appear generally more friendly to all users :-) Le 1 déc. 05 à 23:25, David Burgun a écrit : I came to the same conclusion! The odd thing is that

Re: regex question

2005-12-01 Thread Alex Tweedly
Mark Wieder wrote: All- Is there a way to tell matchChunk() not to be greedy? I've got a regular expression stumper here. I'm using regex with the matchChunk() function and I've BZed a problem with it. Now I'm looking for a workaround that still manages to use matchChunk(). MatchChunk() is

Re: regex question

2005-12-01 Thread Jim Ault
Mark, try uppercase U, like the following: (?U) ungreedy (shortest possible match), case-sensitive, on the same line. (?Usi) means ungreedy, ignore end-of-line, ignore case (?Ui) or (?iU) ungreedy, on the same line, ignore case. Your example should be: matchChunk(tRawText, (?Usi)B(.+)/B, tPos,

Re: Unhiliting Radio Buttons

2005-12-01 Thread Fred Giannetto
Hello Chipp, Is this in the card script (on opencard)? All best Always Fred From: Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Unhiliting Radio Buttons Date: Thu, 01 Dec

Re: regex question

2005-12-01 Thread Mark Greenberg
+? or in your case (?s)B(.+?)/B Hope this helps. Mark On Dec 1, 2005, at 2:07 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: All- Is there a way to tell matchChunk() not to be greedy? I've got a regular expression stumper here. I'm using regex with the matchChunk() function and I've BZed a problem with

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Kevin Miller
Hi Folks, Thanks to everyone for the well considered and helpful suggestions that you have all made. We appreciate the feedback. Let me chime in here with a few comments on all of this. If you ask people why isn't or what's wrong with x type questions it invites, well, all negative responses.

Daniels Mara Joins Revolution revSelect Program

2005-12-01 Thread Kevin Miller
Daniels Mara Joins Revolution revSelect Program RUNTIME REVOLUTION AND ADVANCED TOOL DEVELOPER DANIELS MARA ANNOUNCE NEW RELATIONSHIP 01 December 2005. Edinburgh, Scotland. Runtime Revolution, Ltd and Austin, Texas based Daniels Mara, Inc are pleased to announce the addition of Daniels Mara

pro and hobbyist --- a distinction without merit

2005-12-01 Thread John Vokey
This distinction still irks me. I have never had the need to compile any of my stacks, hypercard, metacard, or RR. But as I have written thousands of them, and use them daily in my lab, I would count myself as a ``pro'' user, not a ``hobbyist''. However, just because a DreamCard-like

Re: How to Disable the Preference and About Box Items

2005-12-01 Thread David Burgun
Hi, Yes, but this isn't an Apple/Mac problem. I don't care if the preference menu is enabled or disabled, but I want it's visible status to reflect it's state, which is not what happens. I disable then Edit Menu, but the preferences item remains enabled, BUT it won't generate a menuPick event.

Re: How to Disable the Preference and About Box Items

2005-12-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
David Burgun wrote: Yes, but this isn't an Apple/Mac problem. I don't care if the preference menu is enabled or disabled, but I want it's visible status to reflect it's state, which is not what happens. I disable then Edit Menu, but the preferences item remains enabled, BUT it won't generate a

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Dan Shafer
Kevin. Good to see you posting here! We all would agree that we'd rather have your team focused on bug fixes and other product development issues than spending lots of time on the list. But I would sugget that perhaps it's not an either-or situation but rather a both-and. By allocating only a

Re: pro and hobbyist --- a distinction without merit

2005-12-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
John Vokey wrote: On 1-Dec-05, at 2:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pondering the many posts in this thread I'm not sure I could contribute much of value, since Chipp covered many of my own thoughts, esp. re. the usefulness of a US presence and the need for a completely unambiguous

Re: pro and hobbyist --- a distinction without merit

2005-12-01 Thread Dan Shafer
John. You may find the distinction unhelpful but a lot of us find it useful, not just in this community but throughout the world of software development. I don't use the word hobbyist because I think that narrows the space too much. I coined the term Inventive User several years ago to

Re: How to Disable the Preference and About Box Items

2005-12-01 Thread David Burgun
David Burgun wrote: Yes, but this isn't an Apple/Mac problem. I don't care if the preference menu is enabled or disabled, but I want it's visible status to reflect it's state, which is not what happens. I disable then Edit Menu, but the preferences item remains enabled, BUT it won't generate

Re: How to Disable the Preference and About Box Items

2005-12-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
David Burgun wrote: Yes, but this isn't an Apple/Mac problem. I don't care if the preference menu is enabled or disabled, but I want it's visible status to reflect it's state, which is not what happens. I disable then Edit Menu, but the preferences item remains enabled, BUT it won't generate

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Bob Warren
Thanks Jerry. However, in view of the fact that I am moving from Windows to Linux (hopefully never to return), the supplements would be of much greater interest if they were also available for Linux. This would also be better in line with RR itself which is supposedly a truly cross-platform

Re: ANN: Phun Physics

2005-12-01 Thread Roger Guay
Thanks, Jim. This will be very useful. BTW, I don't know if you picked up on the intent of my MovingHand stack; In this stack the moving finger is itself a stack so that it can be positioned to any control on any number of other stacks. An inter-stack moving/ pointing finger if you will!

Re: Daniels Mara Joins Revolution revSelect Program

2005-12-01 Thread Jerry Daniels
Thanks, Kevin, we're glad to be on board and looking forward to the forthcoming update and expansion of the revSelect program in December. We're very excited to be part of the RunRev family. Our products--which you spoke of so glowingly in your release--are being sold now through our web

Re: How to Disable the Preference and About Box Items

2005-12-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
David Burgun wrote: Hi, Yes, but this isn't an Apple/Mac problem. I don't care if the preference menu is enabled or disabled, but I want it's visible status to reflect it's state, which is not what happens. I disable then Edit Menu, but the preferences item remains enabled, BUT it won't

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Chipp Walters
Last note on this topic and I'll shut up ;-) Chipp Walters wrote: As an investor, I can tell you I never get reports about either the finances nor the number of users RunRev currently has. So, it's hard to accurately judge how effective they are in providing stockholder value. Upon a

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Jim Ault
On 11/30/05, Mark Swindell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the main reason (if there is such a thing) that Rev is not more popular among professional developers/programmers? It's been around awhile now. People have had a chance to hear about it. It has garnered some awards, at least on

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Mark Swindell
On Dec 1, 2005, at 3:13 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: If you ask people why isn't or what's wrong with x type questions it invites, well, all negative responses. I'm sure we can do better, especially when you give us feedback that is concrete and specific. Kevin, Thanks for your post, and I'm

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Bill Marriott
This comes from the perspective of an occassional (but loyal) RunRev user who's been in the software industry nearly 25 years... Fourteen Reasons Why I Think Rev Is Not More Popular: 1) About five to seven years behind the curve in UI. The reason why programs like Konfabulator get the

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bill Marriott wrote: 1) About five to seven years behind the curve in UI. The reason why programs like Konfabulator get the attention is that they create widgets/programs that look modern/exciting, almost by default. The same look-and-feel can be created with RunRev, but it's a lot more

Missing Revolution Documentation

2005-12-01 Thread Nicholas Nginya
Hi, I am trying out the revolution application and have somehow made my revolution documentation window minimized and now i cant get it maximized. I can clearly see it on my task bar, how do i get it back maximized?? Best Regards NICHOLAS NGINYA The important thing to recognize

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular? Konfabulator UI

2005-12-01 Thread kee nethery
On Dec 1, 2005, at 8:57 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Bill Marriott wrote: 1) About five to seven years behind the curve in UI. The reason why programs like Konfabulator get the attention is that they create widgets/programs that look modern/exciting, almost by default. The same look-and-feel

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular?

2005-12-01 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Butting in here... I think that this could be added to Rev in much the same way as the Button Gadget software works. It is all bells and whistles and having UI elements look 'updated' to gadget type elements should be an easy add on. I thought about this as a utility add on. The real

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular? Konfabulator UI

2005-12-01 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Kee, This is true. But it might be an attractive add on just the same for some people. I personally don't like the UI in a can approach but I know others do. Tom On Dec 2, 2005, at 12:57 AM, kee nethery wrote: On Dec 1, 2005, at 8:57 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Bill Marriott wrote: 1)

AutoArm Problems

2005-12-01 Thread Sivakatirswami
No answers on my previous post... I'll keep it simple: make standard button... set autoarm to true it change from round to rect! Anyone can confirm this? Sivakatirswami ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit

Re: AutoArm Problems

2005-12-01 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Sivakatirswami, Yes I can confirm that here on Mac OS X. But I thought that Autoarm was a Windows feature that requires/has a square button. If you create a new button and switch Look and Feel to windows the new button will be square. So when you autoarm it is now behaving correctly as

Re: AutoArm Problems

2005-12-01 Thread Thomas McGrath III
It seems I was wrong about the WIn only part. From the docs: Usually, the autoArm property is used for buttons that are part of stack menus. Menu items and cascading menu items created with the New Control submenu of the Object menu have their autoArm property set to true when created.

Re: Why isn't Rev more popular? Konfabulator UI

2005-12-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
kee nethery wrote: The reason why programs like Konfabulator get the attention is that they create widgets/programs that look modern/exciting, almost by default. The same look-and-feel can be created with RunRev, but it's a lot more difficult. How does Konfabulator make that easier, You

Kee on low-priced software

2005-12-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Kee, I recall some time ago that you had some strong opinions about the untapped value of low-priced software. I can't recall if I'd read that here or in a Kagi newsletter, or somewhere else. Do you still feel the same? Would you mind summarizing that for us here? -- Richard Gaskin

Re: AutoArm Problems

2005-12-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Aloha Sivakatirswami - make standard button... set autoarm to true it change from round to rect! Anyone can confirm this? Yes. AutoArm was originally designed for the older menu scheme, in which menus were implemented as substacks with buttons. In that context, AutoArm lets the button

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