Hey -- for once, I may finally manage to it get it right!! (the (OT)
thingy, that is).
I'm not certain, but suspect most/all filters will be looking for
the [ ] and not ( ).
ciao,
sims
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Tonight the local CHI meeting, I listened to a presentation by Jensen
Harris, a key designer behind the new Microsoft Office user interface. He
presented a history of Word and Office and how it evolved into Office 2003,
and then went into a live demo of the new office apps sporting the ribbon
Crap
Is this better?
(it's nearly 1 am local time and am actively suppressing the Hyde
voice...)
Judy
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, sims wrote:
Hey -- for once, I may finally manage to it get it right!! (the (OT)
thingy, that is).
I'm not certain, but suspect most/all filters will be looking
Fascinating...
Judy
--will read blog in the a.m. ...
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Scott Rossi wrote:
Tonight the local CHI meeting, I listened to a presentation by Jensen
Harris, a key designer behind the new Microsoft Office user interface.
snip
I wrote down a bunch of points that seemed like
Hello folks,
I'm looking to open a stack as a sheet but I need to make sure
it opens to a specific card. Because it needs to stop script
execution I'm doing the following:
go inv cd pCdNum of stack pSheetStack as modal -- stop the script
while we go to this cd
close stack
I've got a substack that pops up after you print something and on there is a
tick box saying don't show this dialog box again.
What's the best way to implement this? so even when the application is
completely shut down, the next time you open it will remember your
preference.
Thanks again.
Scott,
that's funny, we had a meeting with our MS TAM (tech. account mgr) for our
MS support contract.
His presentation was made in Office 12 beta (never crashed) - and his
words struck me as quite
funny - MS imposes new products on the poor MS employees PC - they should
eat their own dog
What's the best way to implement this? so even when the
application is completely shut down, the next time you open
it will remember your preference.
I'd do it in a preference stack - a stack you save to
a file and open during the course of the program starting
up...
Scott
On 12/14/05, Jason - Polydiam.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've got a substack that pops up after you print something and on there is a
tick box saying don't show this dialog box again.
What's the best way to implement this? so even when the application is
completely shut down, the next time
Hi Jason,
As an app can be saved, you have to implement a prefs file on-the-fly.
The best way to do this is to write on disk an XML file.
Use my Rev Online Picker plugin, specify Preferences as the search
string and you'll get started with Frederic and Gordon stacks.
Rev Online Picker is
I have just uploaded to the RRGraphix Group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RRgraphix/
a file (KLK.rev.zip) that demonstrates Windowshape
and rotation using the 'angle' term.
While I'm here, I should like to extend a BIG PUBLIC 'THANK
YOU' to Heather Nagey for clearing away any
misunderstanding.
From: Scott Morrow
I'm looking to open a stack as a sheet but I need to make sure it
opens to a specific card. Because it needs to stop script execution I'm
doing the following:
Scott, what's a sheet? (Win and Linux guy here, only recently exposed to
Mac by gift of an ancient G3)
Are there in RF functions complementary to BASIC's RTRIM and LTRIM
functions? Or, is this kind of chunk manipulation a do it yourself
project?
I have
.title, Going Home
And I want get item 2 and strip the leading space. I know I can check
character 1 and delete it if it's a space, but
I'm trying to run an outside application
With the following code
launch myapp.exe
Is there a way of catching if the application isn't found and not run so I
can make a dialog box telling the user that it failed?
Thanks again, you guys are fantastic!
I couldn't agree with Dan more. Members of this list have done a
good job in courteously steering discussions. And I have come to
understand Revolution as much from gaining an appreciation of the
people who use it as from learning code. It would be a shame if that
were lost.
On 12/14/05, Jerry Muelver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are there in RF functions complementary to BASIC's RTRIM and LTRIM
functions? Or, is this kind of chunk manipulation a do it yourself
project?
I have
.title, Going Home
And I want get item 2 and strip the leading space. I know I can
Hi Jason,
Check first if the file/folder does exists :-)
switch
case IsOSX() -- then apps are folders
if there is a folder complete path to app then launch
complete path to app
else AnswerErr App not found. -- custom handler
break
default-- then apps are files
if there is a
Dan, I had in mind the discussion about how people other than RunRev
would run RunRev, which it seems to me is pretty far removed from
using Rev.
OTOH, perhaps I should have said that this is not the place for
lengthy discussions of that sort - the recent thread seemed to
have pretty
Jerry, there was a discussion about this quite recently, so you can
search the archives to find it.
The versions that I have are:
function TrimL aString
return char offset(word 1 of aString, aString) to -1 of aString
end TrimL
function TrimR aString
retun char 1 to offset(word 1 of
MS office XML schemas are available at the below location.
I haven't tried to apply them as yet but recall skimming thru the
documentation for MS Word a few months back and finding it reasonably
intuitive.
http://www.microsoft.com/office/xml/default.mspx
Alternatively there is the
I am looking for a way to have a stack go to full screen for a
presentation
thanks
Liam Lambert
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Set the rect of this stack to the screenrect
Depending on your system, you might also have to set the
WindowBoundingRect:
Set the WindowBoundingRect to the screenrect
Set the rect of this stack to the screenrect
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On Dec 14, 2005, at 12:50 PM, liamlambert wrote:
I am looking for a way to have a stack go to full screen for a
presentation
thanks
Liam Lambert
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Liam,
don't know if you're on macs or windows but you should hide the
taskbar (windows), hide the menubar (macs),
Richmond,
What you said was of interest and I think graceful.
However, What you call being 'jumped on' IS someone expressing
their dislike of that post. If you want the privilege of posting your
own dislike about RR or something or someone, then it is obvious to
me that you should be
Hi Charles,
Good on you! (sorry, I spent 2 years in Australia).
The gallery was getting so big that by default I only show the recent
additions to the gallery. To see the metadata writer, you have to use
the top menu and select added any time and push on the go
button. Alternativily, you
Ken,
That's like saying that people who go to the movies to see a movie ought to
put up with people talking to each other about other topics than the movie.
No, Ken, its like saying that when a group of people sit down
together after the movie to reprise it, one ought to go to the rest
room
I don't mind the bun fights or the biz talk. They are easily recognized and
don't need to be read if one chooses not to read them. I'm sure everyone
filters their Rev email. I can ream through several hundred posts, if need
be, in about 20 minutes because I only scan the subject line unless
Now done - http://revolution.lexicall.org/stacks_education.php
Point taken, I will find a way to have this stack always appear in
the gallery.
Charles Hartman wrote:
I thought I'd upload my (man is it ever) noncommercial app, the
English Metrics Tutorial, to your education site; but I
Where do I find documentation on using the XML library to create a tree? I've
never done this before - is there some general source for info or is it in the
Rev docs?
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Hi Control Experts!
I am running OS X 10.4 with Safari. I have a real time streaming
stock graphing applet for a service that I subscribe to. It has a
field to enter the stock symbol and a submit button. I would like to
have Rev send the symbol to the field and punch the submit button.
Dear all,
Different group of users may have different needs. Forums don't mean
you have to check out all forums independently. Nowadays forums
offer the possibility to forward all posts directly to your mailing
program. Persons who prefer to read everything wouldn't be
disadvantaged in
I wouldn't bet on the ASCII format. There have been talks about of a
binary xml format.
http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/08/13/deviant.html
http://searchwebservices.techtarget.com/qna/
0,289202,sid26_gci1027594,00.html
The latest Office suite uses XML as the native file format. Not
sure how
Marielle,
xml is supposed to be unicode not ascii unless the
dtf tells you so... Although I would think it a good
behavior for programs to check this anyway ;)
It's usually a good start, before using a format, to know
it expected structure, encoding, etc...
Not that ascii xml is not good but it
Marielle,
MS has submited the new format to ECMA to create a open standard,
this is not the current format, this is an attempt to beat
OpenDocument and the F/OSS initiatives out there. I bet they are
putting raw binary data inside the XML, but that's just me being
pessimistic.
Cheers
Dennis,
you might need a Macro program to do that. A macro, like QuickKeys can
handle this easily and they are usually apple-scriptable.
Record the macro-sequence. Give it a name and then
do thismacroname as QuickKeys -- or as Applescripts maybe...
im out of the mac circle but I know that
WARNING: The RRGraphix site has a file TL.rev that will move your
menus and not put them back. This is just bad form. A newbie would be
really confused by this behavior.
Tom
On Dec 14, 2005, at 4:59 AM, Mathewson wrote:
I have just uploaded to the RRGraphix Group:
IGNORED
On Dec 14, 2005, at 10:05 AM, Mark Smith wrote:
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Couple of questions:
1) is this one table, or several?
2) is is continuously updated, or a one-time publish?
3) does the format vary each/several times?
4) does the dimension of the table change?
Jim Ault
Las Vegas
On 12/13/05 5:20 PM, Bill Vlahos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a table in an
Dennis,
I would see if the streaming stock app is Applescript-able. If it is
then REV can do this for you using Applescript. The newest version of
Applescript has a lot of new features including clicking at a buttons
location and support for apps that do not have much applescript support.
On 12/14/05 8:54 AM, Preston Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Where do I find documentation on using the XML library to create a tree? I've
never done this before - is there some general source for info or is it in the
Rev docs?
Look at 'revCreateXMLTree' in the Transcript Dictionary...
Ken
Is there a way for the user to interrupt a wait until the sound is done
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Devin -
Thanks for getting back. No, these are not compressed files. They're sound
files I've used many times in version 1.1.1 I imported them into to a
stack and played them using the play command. play myAudio
I work for a school district in Wisconsin and our computer guy and I have
been
I can't figure out why my audio files won't play in Rev. 2.6.1. If it is
a compatibility problem between Rev. 2.6.1 and Mac 10.4.2 or 10.4.3 then
the users would be talking about it. I installed Revolution 1.1.1 on my
new Mac and opened it in System 9 and the audio files played fine. Anybody
have
Hi all
I am building a note and outline manager in rev. I've worked out my user
interface, but before going further I wanted some advice on text handling
before working on the data engine.
I will store memo fields of various lengths, these would have styled text,
and would be typed in or
Hi!,
I have many different assumptions about what is causing the problem, but
rather than to keep grasping at straws I have been looking at the Embassy
and i saw your reply to a debugger question. So here I am
I'm running Rev 2.6.1 in a windows XP Pro environment.
I've used Rev since version
Bill,
Thanks for the warning. I am used to test locally first before
uploading and I copied the wrong address. This is of course the
popular education gallery:
http://revolution.lexicall.org/stacks_education.php
15 entries added!
Marielle
The only hickup though is that if we clicked on a rev url to
download the widget, it would launch another instance of
rev (in windows) which could be disastrous (in my pro opinion
as a pc user) or for mac users, i might not be recognized as
a rev file...
I agree this is a problem. Guess what, I
Dan, Dave,
Interesting. I've used MVC concepts without knowing what it was! ;)
Until I read Wiki! I love that thing!
Did the same thing with Xanadu... I thought I had an original idea
developping modular CMS stacks in HyperCard back in 1980s but now
this is really taking a dimension of it's
Hi Cal
Try to clear the breakpoints from your stack.
save the stack and try again...
hopefully that will fix it...
cheers
Xavier
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I think the wait until the sound is done with messages can help
here. I don't know if it will stop the wait command but it will allow
for other commands to be started etc.
From the Docs:
The wait command freezes execution for the specified amount of time,
or until the specified condition
Jim,
I like the charToNum idea too. But doesn't the -- put the imageSource
of char x of field myfield -- return blank if no imagesource is found?
so
repeat for each char x of field myField
if the imageSource of char x of field myField is then
next repeat
else
Le 8 déc. 05 à 16:59, Eric Chatonet a écrit :
Could you share your problem on the list?
Can help...
Here is the code...
on preOpenStack
if the short name of this stack is not klimax then pass
PreOpenStack
put Please, wait. Rev app's server loading...
set twelveHourTime to false
Tom,
I did check for this. The Java applet runs inside a browser. There
are no Applescript commands to control it that I can tell. I also
tried Automator and tried the recording function in Applescript
Studio, but no good.
Thanks,
Dennis
On Dec 14, 2005, at 12:14 PM, Thomas McGrath
Is it just me or is everyone getting repeat messages from the list???
I hope not. It would be a cruel joke to get all of the past flame war
messages again!!!
Tom
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Dennis,
The recording function -- Are you able to at least record a click at
the button location?
Tom
On Dec 14, 2005, at 1:00 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:
I also tried Automator and tried the recording function in
Applescript Studio, but no good.
Thomas J McGrath III
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Sorry, list. Just one more [OT] email to make sure Xavier and I can talk...
Xavier, I sent an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Is this the address you want
me to use? Jim
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YES, TL.rev does move menus and the toolbar offscreen.
BUT, there is a BUTTON clearly displayed which RESTORES
everything: button TOOL BARS !
so, confusing it may be; bad form it is not!
sincerely, Richmond Mathewson
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Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Doesn't work here at all. It moved my menus and did not put them back
at all.
Yes that is bad form.
Tom
On Dec 14, 2005, at 1:07 PM, Mathewson wrote:
YES, TL.rev does move menus and the toolbar offscreen.
BUT, there is a BUTTON clearly displayed which RESTORES
everything: button TOOL BARS
If you mean it moves the menuBar to center screen and the toolbar to
screencenter, well it does do that BUT that is not moving them back
to where they were at all and most people do not know how to move the
menuBar to its original position.
Tom
On Dec 14, 2005, at 1:07 PM, Mathewson
On Dec 14, 2005, at 4:19 PM, MisterX wrote:
There's rawa data in SQL.
Being able to store binary data in a format is maybe unfriendly to
someone
at one point but that's trivial compared to the advantages that
this feature
brings or can bring to your apps ;)
Err... Xavier... Err... XML
Tom,
I was surprised that it did not, but the docs says that it will not
do that. If I clicked in the Finder areas, it only recorded that I
selcted the Finder. It did not record anything when I clicked on
other applications. I thought Safari would have been more scriptable.
Dennis
On
Hi Tom,
just had a look at my code andd found:
1. restores 'revtools.rev' to centre screen - has a drag
bar at the top.
2. restores 'revMenuBar.rev' to (WID/2),40 where 'WID' is
item 3 of the screenRect, and '40' is 40 pixels from the
top of the screen - now it restores revMenuBar to exactly
Mark,
Yes they do have an API for streaming applications, but you have to
pay dearly for the use of it each month. For the low cost (about $13/
month) service, they confine you to using their limited functionality
browser (Java) interface.
Dennis
On Dec 14, 2005, at 1:12 PM, Mark Smith
MisterX-
Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 9:48:23 AM, you wrote:
Somewhere, things work the same everywhere - the OOP phylosophy
helps us make that work better in Rev. Yes, not the same way as
in C++ or real OOP languages. But Object Based Programming is
definitely not less efficient. And
Dennis,
Yeah, it must be safari or that fact it is a web app. I did
successfully record a menu item and screen button in a non apple
scriptable app but was nervous with that as a solution cause the
button/window could be moved.
Will keep looking.
Tom
On Dec 14, 2005, at 1:35 PM, Dennis
Ah, that old up-the-price trick. A shame :(
Mark
On 14 Dec 2005, at 18:40, Dennis Brown wrote:
Mark,
Yes they do have an API for streaming applications, but you have to
pay dearly for the use of it each month. For the low cost (about
$13/month) service, they confine you to using their
Richmond,
You have the script set to (item 3 of screenRect)which is 1600/2=800
which is at the center of my screen. That is where the revMenuBar
gets put after running your script in Tool Bars. This may work on
your screen due to your screen size but that won't work on other
screens.
Oh, H*ll!
Tom - let me deal with this in 2 parts:
1. I thought that 'put the screenRect' would use the size
of the screen the stack was currently running on - may be
not???
2. If you go an look - you will see that I have replaced
the offending stack with a variant with all the lines that
ove
Hello all listers,
I had an experience with a sample stack that at first threw me off
and I may have responded to the what the stack did harshly. I'm not
sure. But it brought up a point for me.
Is it considered good form to point out how someone's hard worked
stack performs if it does so
My screenRect is 0,0,1600,1000
My screenLoc is 800,500
My upper left screen corner (where my menu should be) is at 367,43
You have the script set to (item 3 of screenRect) 1600/2=800 which is
at the center of my screen. That is where the menubar gets put after
running your script in Tool
I've seen that too. Maybe there are third party apps that can do the
lookups for you. I did find other apps for my stock lookups.
Tom
On Dec 14, 2005, at 1:40 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:
Mark,
Yes they do have an API for streaming applications, but you have to
pay dearly for the use of it
R,
I really didn't mean anything bad at all by posting. I was thrown off
and responded quickly. I am glad you are forgiving and fun loving. i
like people like you. I consider myself in a similar way. The
'rebels' of the list? grin ;-)
Keep on keeping on,
Tom
On Dec 14, 2005, at 1:56
Le 14-déc.-05 à 14:07, Jerry Muelver a écrit :
Are there in RF functions complementary to BASIC's RTRIM and LTRIM
functions? Or, is this kind of chunk manipulation a do it
yourself project?
I have
.title, Going Home
i have found such functions in the archives :
function
Graham Samuel wrote:
It appears to me that if a button has style 'push button', then when
hilited, its hilite color only shows up on the Mac and not the PC;
whereas if the style is 'square button', then you get the color on both
platforms. Can anyone else confirm this?
The RR docs has
Hi
I am seeing this also. An Mp3 file imported with the import command
and trying to play with play command.
10.4.3 dual g5 Rev 2.6.1
--h
On 7.12.2005, at 20.54, Edgar Spees wrote:
Devin -
Thanks for getting back. No, these are not compressed files.
They're sound
files I've used many
As I had at least one request for a case studies gallery, it is now
up and running.
http://revolution.lexicall.org/case_studies.php
Have you seen *anything* that good looking in the konfabulator gallery?
You would like yours to be added? Simple, you can use the metadata
editor for this
On Dec 14, 2005, at 11:24 AM, Hannu Kokko wrote:
Hi
I am seeing this also. An Mp3 file imported with the import command
and trying to play with play command.
10.4.3 dual g5 Rev 2.6.1
Rev is having problems playing imported audio files that don't have
the mov extension. If you have QT
Wow Mariella, those examples in the case studies gallery are really beautiful -
are they rev-built applications?
Inspiring stuff!
Best
Gordon
Marielle Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I had at least one request for a
case studies gallery, it is now
up and running.
Have
On Dec 14, 2005, at 2:20 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Keep on keeping on,
The last time I heard that saying was 20 years ago by a wise old monk!
Dennis
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Good ideas, all.
A small request. Could we avoid casual references to Deity in subject
lines? For some of us it grates on the ears (well, ok--eyes). Call me
old fashioned. :-)
Thanks.
Devin
On Dec 12, 2005, at 10:47 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
Jim,
I like the charToNum idea too. But
On 12/14/05 1:17 PM, Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I had an experience with a sample stack that at first threw me off
and I may have responded to the what the stack did harshly. I'm not
sure. But it brought up a point for me.
It was a bit harsh (all capitals and all), but you
Devin Asay wrote:
Good ideas, all.
A small request. Could we avoid casual references to Deity in subject
lines? For some of us it grates on the ears (well, ok--eyes). Call me
old fashioned. :-)
Second.
Phil Davis
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Tom,
I usually contact the author directly and tell them about the bug
in their app. I do this so that they can save face (and time) by
fixing the problem quickly and posting the problem/solution without
being caught up in a public controversy first.
However, if a code sample is
Hi Everyone,
Please tell me how to create a field with the lines showing.
Joe,
Orlando, FL
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Brian,
I'm no expert on these subjects, but I offer a couple of observations
from my experience:
- You'd probably want to save an optimized, plain text version of
each memo, indexed to the styled-text memo, to speed up the search.
- both the 'find' and 'offset' commands are very fast,
It works better , but many times missing the write ,
The modem issues when ready to receive
So the reply for AT00 is
ERROR
(cr)(lf)
I need to strip of the cr lf and only write again when is received as
fast as possible.
Camm
- Original Message -
From: Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL
I recently received an interesting e-mail from a chap in
Australia:
Hi Richmond,
I?m one of the many novices to Revolution and I?ve learnt a
lot from looking at and adapting stacks like yours on the
Lexical site. I?ve adapted your stack on ?drop targets?
with the red and green images assigned to
Edgar,
What format are the audio files in? How are you trying to play them?
Knowing this would help us figure out the problem.
Devin
On Dec 8, 2005, at 7:05 AM, Edgar Spees wrote:
I can't figure out why my audio files won't play in Rev. 2.6.1. If
it is
a compatibility problem between
Seems normal here.
Seems normal here.
Regards,
Regards,
Devin
Devin
On Dec 14, 2005, at 11:10 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
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flame war messages again!!!
Joe,
'set the showLines of fld myField to true'
Best,
Mark
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Please tell me how to create a field with the lines showing.
Joe,
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On Dec 14, 2005, at 2:51 PM, Devin Asay wrote:
A small request. Could we avoid casual references to Deity in
subject lines? For some of us it grates on the ears (well, ok--
eyes). Call me old fashioned. :-)
Yes, I feel the same way about that --and any kind of off color
expletive for
Hi Tom,
Don't worry, your behaviour on this list and on the RRgraphix list
has always been exemplar. There was nothing wrong with your Warning
email.
Take care,
Marielle
PS. What's the purpose of a [RRgraphix] list if we get to read all
threads here?
Hello all listers,
I had an
Joe,
By lines showing do you mean the horizontal lines, like you see on
notebook paper? If so, just open the property inspector for the
field, choose Table from the popup list, then check Text
baselines, which shows the, well, baselines for the text. This is
the same as setting the
I agree with Dan Shafer in both of his opinions - the community is too
small already and that a mailing list is the worst possible vehicle for
facilitating the Revolution Community at large. A forum would provide
for all of the possible areas of discussion by segregating the general
topic
When the user interrupts a running handler, the image of the card is left on
the screen. Is there a way to get rid of it without rebooting? Is there are
gentler form of controlled crash?
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write AT00 numToChar(13) to driver COM1:
One point is that with the same command AT00 , HYPERTERMINAL works
always with wait time 1 second.
Even though the Hayes-compatible tradition requires a CR to terminate
the command line, I have seen
Welcome back Dar! We missed you. Richard and I were just discussing the
other night where you had been? My my records, your last post was in
July so we were hoping all was OK.
best,
Chipp
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