No idea why, but it might be a good idea to eliminate Ubuntu. Download a
liveCD Slackware based distro and see if it still happens. For instance,
Zenwalk live or Slax. Or Mandriva One.
The other thing I would try is whether it is the same performance with all
desktops. So on Ubuntu,
Mandriva isn't Slackware based of course, didn't mean to give that
impression. So that would be a test of a third branch of the tree.
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In my experience, this slowness has mainly to do with X11. Any MC
engine (need confirmation for Rev) started in the background in
launching a service stack via an rc2 shell script will run faster
under Linux than the service stack can run under windows or OS X in
graphical mode.
Kind
The problem wasn't just that Rev 3.0 was slower on Linux. It was also
crashing daily and freezing regularly.
I pointed out in one bug report that Rev would routinely freeze using
chatRev. It would happen on both Ubuntu and my (Fedora-based) Linux
netbook (see the screenshots attached to
You may well be right that X11 is the problem. In one test I did
using stacks as tables, a console-based Rev app on Linux was 100x
faster than using relational databases, even when the relational
databases were configured to keep all their tables in memory.
However, I suspect the same kinds of
PC Acer TravelMate 2300, Celeron 1.5 GHz, upgraded to 2 Gb RAM. I
tested my app (AALite sqlite database browser) on a few distributions
and found that it is completely usable on Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex
(Gnome), but starts and then crashes Puppy; starts, works but finally
crashes on Slax
Hi Mark,
Yep. I've seen that. I hate to put this on our plate, but it seems to
be a GLX2 thing with rev 3.5. sigh We're working on it.
On PC I've noted a number of these. Some result in crashes (apparently
related to saves) and some just annoying such as Ctrl-9 (for switching to
Browse Tool),
I have a standalone, which opens several other stacks. Is there a way to
have any of these other stacks access an external WITHOUT having to set
the externals of the standalone?
It's much easier for me if I need only modify one of the stacks. I'd
like to avoid modifying the standalone.
I've
On May 5, 2009, at 5:14 PM, Yves COPPE wrote:
I try to make a form with a datagrid
the rowtemplate is 2 flds
the array for each row gives 2 text, one for the text fld Data1 of
the row and one for the text fld Data2
the formttedHeigth of each data is a variable
and I cannot find a script for
Hi Richard,
Have one stack that sets the externals. Then *start using* that stack from
anywhere (the preOpenStack of your standalone is fine). This makes available
the externals of that stack to other open stacks.
Aloha from Hawaii,
Jim Bufalini
I have a standalone, which opens several other
Le 6 mai 09 à 14:20, Richard Miller a écrit :
I have a standalone, which opens several other stacks. Is there a
way to have any of these other stacks access an external WITHOUT
having to set the externals of the standalone?
It's much easier for me if I need only modify one of the stacks.
Hi,
Yes, the images are in the same stack, I checked with the application
browser. But the images in the standalone don't appear...
Any idea?
J. Landman Gay wrote:
Josep wrote:
Hi,
Yes, the images was imported into the stack as control and in develop
mode
all is ok. The problem is
Thanks Jim and Thierry,
Seems to be working. I've got a bit more testing to do, but so far, so good.
Richard
Jim Bufalini wrote:
Hi Richard,
Have one stack that sets the externals. Then *start using* that stack from
anywhere (the preOpenStack of your standalone is fine). This makes
ok, it should be very easy to test this. Boot Puppy and pick the VESA
option. Won't that tell you at least if its down to Xorg?
Peter
Bernard Devlin-2 wrote:
You may well be right that X11 is the problem. ...
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Le 06-mai-09 à 14:24, Trevor DeVore a écrit :
On May 5, 2009, at 5:14 PM, Yves COPPE wrote:
Yves,
Is the issue with determining how to resize the fields so they are
as tall as the content they have to display? If you just want to
resize the fields to fit the appropriate height then you
Oh dear what a dispiriting thread. I haven't experienced all this stuff,
though printing is still a mess in parts, and aspects of the IDE are very
irritating. But in terms of how well it runs on Linux, I've usually found
3.0 and 3.5 to be improvements. The native file dialog is a great
Bernard Devlin wrote:
The interesting question is what has happened to the programming
of the Rev GUI since RunRev took over development from Metacard.
I was not a MC user, but since MC was primarily aimed at Unix
GUIs, I cannot believe that the same kinds of problems were
experienced by
Folks,
I've built sometime ago a little toy called RevTwitter. It has a simple
twitter library for posting, searching and getting timelines.
I've built a minimal client too so you can play with it. After loading,
remember to fill your login details by clicking the preferences button.
It is a fun
Does anyone know what is causing this? I had a Application Icon that
had been copied into the Mac OS X Standalone with no problems, and then
all of a sudden when Rev builds the standalone, it doesn't copy the icon.
This happened a few weeks ago with no change in Revolution versions. I
did try
On 5/5/09 21:37, Bernard Devlin bdrun...@gmail.com wrote:
There are several bugs noted in RQCC about slow performance in Linux.
Some of those marked 'fixed'
(http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7273) are fixing
symptoms that manifest because of the much slower performance.
I
Thanks for putting the issues in a context. It does go some way to
explaining why some of us have had such a bad experience of Rev on
Linux.
Bernard
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Richard Gaskin
ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote:
I think what happened was Motif died. :)
MC was originally
Kevin Miller wrote:
On 5/5/09 21:37, Bernard Devlin bdrunrev at gmail.com wrote:
There are several bugs noted in RQCC about slow performance in Linux.
Some of those marked 'fixed'
(http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7273) are fixing
symptoms that manifest because of the much
Recently, Derek Bump - Dreamscape Software wrote:
Does anyone know what is causing this? I had a Application Icon that
had been copied into the Mac OS X Standalone with no problems, and then
all of a sudden when Rev builds the standalone, it doesn't copy the icon.
This happened to me
Is it not being shown in the Finder, or does it not get copied at all?
Try zipping the .app, deleting the .app, and unzipping the archive - if it does
show up again, it's due to the Finder icon cache not getting updated (a common
problem for developers in all Mac programming environments)
If it
Yes, you have to relaunch the Finder: I do hope somebody
other than me can understand 'close process' because
when I typed 'close process Finder.app ' nothing happened.
Quitting th Finder should sufficient as it should
automatically relaunch.
Scott Rossi wrote:
Recently, Derek Bump -
I find that just duplicating the standalone will cause the Finder to
draw the copy with the icons.
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Richmond Mathewson wrote:
Yes, you have
Hi all,
I'm finishing an installer in Rev which is a basic stack in fact.
After asking some parameters, it will check on the web for versions,
and should dowload few files.
Those files were compressed before.
Rev can download them,
decompress them and save them on the user's disk.
So far so
Well, that's all very fine if you are there, and it's your computer.
However, I have downloaded an application (not a RR standalone) before
and had to relaunch the Finder myself to get the icon to show up.
Richard Gaskin wrote:
I find that just duplicating the standalone will cause the Finder
Hi Thierry,
A bundle is just a folder. Handle it just like any folder in your
project. I do that with my installer too.
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http://www.salery.biz
Dutch forum:
Jim-
Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 4:36:47 AM, you wrote:
I've just assumed you guys are aware of these issues and are working
feverishly to correct them and so I haven't bothered to report any. But, if
*Never* assume that sort of stuff. Most of the time we become aware of
issues when someone
Thierry wrote:
I'm finishing an installer in Rev which is a basic stack in fact.
After asking some parameters, it will check on the web for versions,
and should dowload few files.
Those files were compressed before.
Rev can download them,
decompress them and save them on the user's disk.
So
Well how strange is that. As soon as I try to test the helpful advise
every gave me, it starts to work again!
I will say this though, when the problem was happening, I would have to
go into the Package Contents, and remove the Standalone.icns and replace
it with my icon.
If this happens again
On 6/05/09 18:46, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
Yes, you have to relaunch the Finder: I do hope somebody
other than me can understand 'close process' because
when I typed 'close process Finder.app ' nothing happened.
using the shell with : killAll Finder
or in Rev
using
get shell(killAll
Hi Richard,
Seems to be working. I've got a bit more testing to do, but so far, so
good.
Great.
BTW, just in case you didn't know. If you want to add a stack that's needs
to be put in use and don't want to modify any other stacks, you can have a
stack put itself in use with something like:
Hi,
Well, after severals standalone builidings... and tests nothing change. I
import again all the images without make copy paste between stacks... The
images aren't show. Only appear grey boxes in the location where the image
will be stay. The images are locked position in the stacks.
But, if
Derek Bump - Dreamscape Software wrote:
Well how strange is that. As soon as I try to test the helpful advise
every gave me, it starts to work again!
I will say this though, when the problem was happening, I would have to
go into the Package Contents, and remove the Standalone.icns and replace
Excuse my ignorance, but how do you launch a stack with an rc2 shell
script?
And would doing so still display my GUI as if it were a standalone?
Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
On May 6, 2009, at 3:34 AM, Pierre Sahores psaho...@free.fr wrote:
In my experience, this slowness has mainly to
Folks,
Friends don't let Friends lose resource forks!
Even as a bundle is just a folder, some files inside it might not be just
simple files. If you simply compress it, you might end up loosing any
resource fork in the files since zip does not take care of that. Check the
ditto command line
You can also use the touch command in the shell:
get shell(touch pathToApp)
I use Path Finder as a Finder replacement and it includes a Rouch
command in the right-click menu.
Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
On May 6, 2009, at 11:56 AM, Richard Gaskin
ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote:
Mark just sent me a potential fix for the short-cut key lock up
problem on GLX2. We're testing it.
Best,
Jerry Daniels
Daniels Mara, Inc.
Makers of GLX2
http://www.glx2.com
On May 6, 2009, at 6:36 AM, Jim Bufalini wrote:
Hi Mark,
Yep. I've seen that. I hate to put this on our plate,
Thanks Richard, Mark,...
well, I knew a bundle is a folder.
I was hoping of an unrevealed feature to avoid scanning the bundle
folder,
and dealing with each kind of files inside
So, in the same vein you run a shell command to set exe bit,
i'm using this shell command for all the process
I think that Pierre was talking about using Rev as a server-side
scripting language, more or less the way a Rev CGI works (only in
Pierre's case, I think he's interested in Rev as a long-running server
process, hence launched as a daemon service). This would mean running
without a GUI.
I hope
So I was reading this morning about Tropo (http://www.tropo.com/) this
voice service where you can write code and make their IVR system do
neat things.
It works by you registering an app on their side, and you call it with
a URL which has embedded params, or a html form, or whatever.
And
Generic Email wrote:
So I was reading this morning about Tropo (http://www.tropo.com/) this
voice service where you can write code and make their IVR system do
neat things.
It works by you registering an app on their side, and you call it with
a URL which has embedded params, or a html form,
Seems there is a new Rev for download - available through the Update
option in the IDE or from the website. Spamming the changes here so
you can determine if the fixes warrant a download and change to your
work-flow (personally I dislike having to download and install just
to see what is
As you'll note from this bug report it was fixed for 3.5. We fixed a lot of
other issues on Linux for that release too, including a couple of slow
downs, crashes and memory leaks that occurred under certain window managers.
Linux has a small market share, is a rapidly moving target and is a
Of all the bugs they might have fixed, they neglect the ability to
uncomment via keyboard shortcut.
I am depressed.
Craig Newman
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Quit Rev
Delete your preference file
Restart Rev
See if that works for you.. I used to have the same issue but seems
to be working correctly now.
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On May 6, 2009, at 4:43 PM, Shao Sean wrote:
Quit Rev
Delete your preference file
Restart Rev
See if that works for you.. I used to have the same issue but seems
to be working correctly now.
It only works if you have not changed the default comment character to
# from --. If your default
On May 6, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Shao Sean wrote:
Seems there is a new Rev for download - available through the Update
option in the IDE or from the website. Spamming the changes here so
you can determine if the fixes warrant a download and change to your
work-flow (personally I dislike having
I'm putting together an updater stack whose purpose will be to take two
stack of identical structure and update the button and field scripts
from the source stack and copy them them to the destination stack.
What I'm doing now is to open both the source and destination stack and
going back and
Marty,
A brute force method would be to open stack 1; load all of the data
you wish transferred to the other stack into vars; close stack 1; open
stack 2 and load all the vars into the objects in stack 2. If they are
numbered sequentially, this should be very easy. Otherwise, perhaps a
Josh.
I uploaded my gadget to revOnLine. It is called Wizard, kluged together
over 20 years. It does some things better, mainly on flds and btns, than the
property inspector. It is far more useful in HC than here in Revolution,
which has awfully, awfully cool tools that HC could only dream of.
Hi Marty,
Please take a look at Changed Code Picker, fourth one down on:
http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/?r=revolutionl=en
It's free and it opens and compares all scripts of two identical stacks and
lets you move selected code of a reference stack to your newer stack. If you
want to move all
Thanks Jim,
I downloaded the stack, but get this error on openstack:
stack Changed Code Picker: execution error at line 140 (Chunk: no such
object) near script, char 34
Marty Knapp
Hi Marty,
Please take a look at Changed Code Picker, fourth one down on:
Hi All!
I'm making a little web browser client that needs to check the
contents of a file on a web server. It needs to be able to do this
every 5 seconds or so in the background, and then if the contents
changes in the last line of the file it is checking, it starts another
process in
Hi Marty,
I downloaded the stack, but get this error on openstack:
stack Changed Code Picker: execution error at line 140 (Chunk: no
such
object) near script, char 34
What version of Rev are you running and on which platform?
Aloha from Hawaii
Jim Bufalini
I have Rev 3.5.0 build 870 running on Mac OS 10.5.6
Thanks Jim,
Marty
Hi Marty,
I downloaded the stack, but get this error on openstack:
stack Changed Code Picker: execution error at line 140 (Chunk: no
such
object) near script, char 34
What version of Rev are you running and on
Hi Marty,
:-( It's been tested from 2.8.1 to 3.0 on Mac and I've run it on 3.5 on PC
and many others have used this stack and never reported this error. Would
you be so kind as to back up to Rev 3.0 and tell me if you get the same
error? Also, please try downloading again. Otherwise, I'll dig
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