Le 30 nov. 2009 à 03:25, J. Landman Gay a écrit :
This fails for me too, but only if I keep the property name you assigned. If
I change the property to cY it works as expected. I'm not sure why, but I'd
guess the engine is using y for something. Since I always preface my custom
properties
Hello Jacques !
for the specific issue of temporary variables, I use the following names, which
solves, I think, this type of problem: vtA, vtB, vtC, etc.. (pour variable
tampon (ou temporaire) a, b, c, etc..)
Bon souvenir de Paris
René
Le 30 nov. 2009 à 10:42, Jacques Hausser a écrit :
Le
Hi René,
I know ! Nobody will have problems with multi-letter names : the
CPropIWouldLikeToCallY or estimatedSlopeOfTheRegression would work fine, but
how boring to type compared to the usual a ! And I didn't see anywhere in the
docs a caveat against the use of one letter names...
Jacques
Hello Jacques, Jacqueline, Craig, and Jim,
Sadly, it is a bug then. The consequences, as I said, are potentially serious
for any stack that uses custom props with the same name to monitor various
states of objects. Jacqueline and Jacques (kind of musical, eh?), I
experimented a little more
The bug report for this bug is 8476.
Gregory
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On Nov 29, 2009, at 2:15 AM, Rolf Kocherhans wrote:
I have two question about Data Grid and the use of images.
a. can i somehow use set the imageSource of char 1 of line 1 ...
with a Data Grid Table or Form ?
No. The Data Grid is not text based but object based. The equivalent
of the
I mean ANY form of loyalty. ALL LOYALTY is based on the perception of
belonging which is always defined by exclusivity. It is the friendly face put
on every negative trait exhibited by humans: nepitism, racism, sexism,
religious and every other form of superiority. Nobody joins a group to
Dear all,
please, could we close this thread and come back to more important things?
Matthias
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Subject: RE: Interesting blog post - comments anyone? (30-Nov-2009 18:15)
From:Randall Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com
To: runrev260...@m-r-d.de
I mean ANY
True, true, and unrelated.
My take on the same scenario is that Apple had a great product, and Supercard
and Metacard after them. They all just dropped the ball. RunRev came along
picked up that ball and have been running with it ever since--despite what I
perceive to be major obstacles along
Recently, Randall Reetz wrote:
It would be instructive here to place run-rev in historical and genealogical
perspective. In 1987 apple introduced a product based on the genius of
smalltalk that it called hypercard.
...
Lets keep some perspective here. If rev wants loyalty, then at the very
Greetings!
I have a standalone that opens stacks that are posted on a website. Most of
the time it works great! But, sometimes I get an error like this:
error 624,664,1
490,662,1
253,661,1
Anyone have a clue as to what this means?
Thank you in advance,
On 11/30/09 7:13 PM, Randall Reetz wrote:
I mean ANY form of loyalty. ALL LOYALTY is based on the perception of
belonging which is always defined by exclusivity. It is the friendly face put
on every negative trait exhibited by humans: nepitism, racism, sexism,
religious and every other form
On 11/30/09 7:35 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:
Loyalty aside, IMO the entire Hypercard comparison and reflection needs to
end and go away. Revolution is not Hypercard, and I don't see how comparing
Rev to a dead product invented 20+ years ago serves either the product or
its potential users. I for
I disagree with the SHHH! DON'T MENTION HC! sentiment. The HC comparison
is exactly what brought me here. Otherwise I would have ignored RR. I
suspect there are many old-school HC fans that are an easy audience.
--
On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth
On the second day,
Dan Friedman wrote:
I have a standalone that opens stacks that are posted on a website.
Most of the time it works great! But, sometimes I get an error
like this:
error 624,664,1
490,662,1
253,661,1
Anyone have a clue as to what this means?
Do you have the option checked for the IDE to
Mikey wrote: The HC comparison is exactly what brought me here. Otherwise I
would have ignored RR. I suspect there are many old-school HC fans that are an
easy audience.
Ayup. I got Rev in the first place because it looked like just what I
wanted--a cross-platform version of Hypercard. I
Dan Friedman wrote:
Greetings!
I have a standalone that opens stacks that are posted on a website. Most of
the time it works great! But, sometimes I get an error like this:
error 624,664,1
490,662,1
253,661,1
Anyone have a clue as to what this means?
The first number is the error, the
I am simply and obviously questioning
the integrity of the original intent of the original post in
this thread (coming as it did from a paid employee charged
with customer relations no less). But mostly my comments are
general and concern the slow but steady disregard of
integrity as a
Hi Dan,
According to http://runrev.info/error.html this means:
Type: wait (aborted)
Object name:
script Line:(row 664 col 1)
Hint:
Type: repeat (error in statement)
Object name: script
Line:(row 662 col 1)
Hint:
Type: if-then (error in statement)
Object name: script
Line:(row 661 col 1)
Hint:
In 1987 Apple introduced a product based on the genius of SmallTalk that
it called HyperCard.
I've always been baffled by the comparisons to SmallTalk. Message passing,
perhaps, but the syntax couldn't be more different.
What back-room finagling prompted the MetaCard people to change their
Hi Gregory,
-Original Message-
From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-
Hello Jacques, Jacqueline, Craig, and Jim,
Sadly, it is a bug then. The consequences, as I said, are potentially
serious for any stack that uses custom props with the same name to
Hi Gregory,
-Original Message-
From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-
Hello Jacques, Jacqueline, Craig, and Jim,
Sadly, it is a bug then. The consequences, as I said, are potentially
serious for any stack that uses custom props with the same name to
Hi Gregory,
-Original Message-
From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-
Hello Jacques, Jacqueline, Craig, and Jim,
Sadly, it is a bug then. The consequences, as I said, are potentially
serious for any stack that uses custom props with the same name to
Jim Bufalini wrote:
Also use parenthesis to resolve a name like a card name first.
I was wondering about this too. In my (successful) tests, I also renamed
the cards. The word first is a reserved word, and first card is a
valid card reference, so I was wondering if the engine was getting
I tried to post, but daggumit I have to register AGAIN because it's ZDNET UK!
Bah! Forget it.
Bob
On Nov 25, 2009, at 7:51 AM, Heather Nagey wrote:
I just came across this:
http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,100567,10014516o-2000458459b,00.htm
Thought it would interest you guys!
OMG the aliens have stolen your sensibility! Your original post has been
countered by virtually everyone! Doesn't that wave a yellow flag in your head
somewhere? You stand alone on this, and for good reason! If you don't want to
post on the blog, then DON'T POST ON THE BLOG! But DONT revile
I created my own stack to do an example of printing based on
evShowPrintDialog.
I created a simple stack with a text field and a button. Here is my print
script in a button:
on mouseUp
revShowPrintDialog false,true -- shows only the Print dialog
put the htmlText of field Text into tText
Did your ramblings and indirection sufficiently derail my point? And you are
dead wrong on all of your statements. Talk to the meat of a statement or don't
talk. Anything else is obvious rhetorical maneuvering. Lawyer?
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No. The ramblings only served to point out that your point was irrelevant
because you were making it to a group who all found the original post to be of
interest. Only you were offended. That seems to me unavoidable.
Bob
On Nov 30, 2009, at 9:05 AM, Randall Reetz wrote:
Did your ramblings
http://franklin3d.com/index.php/downloads
Hello all,
Franklin 3D, the 3D game engine for Revolution is moving forward. F4D uses
OpenGL on both platforms, and DirectX in addition on the Windows platform.
The feature set is here:
http://franklin3d.com/index.php/franklin-3d
The mac version is
Ok, here is my labored rebuttal. I haven't checked, but I think I correctly
said that hyperCARD was invented by atkinson. I never exposed any dislike of
the run-rev product (i am a fan as well!). My point about integrity and truth
was well expressed and clearly argued. The fact that the
On Nov 30, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Lynn Fredricks wrote:
Id like to apologize to everyone who I have treated roughly and
without proper respect over the last several years.
Reciprocated. ;-)
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I thought it might be useful to share the results of my database research to
date.
The requirements are:
Embedded version for desktop versions of our apps, even if they also connect
to hosted database servers.
The client side choice must be cross platform on OS X, Windows, Linux, so
the embedded
As for the direct inheritance hypercard owes to smalltalk, if you don't see it,
you are not recognizing the huge difference between pre and post object
thinking in programming. That dan winkler chose to use the word talk in
hypertalk was a strong wink to alan kay and his smalltalk (the first
I must have missed the part where you can't connect to the database using
ODBC. If that is not a consideration, then the RR drivers are irrelevant.
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On the second day, God created the oceans.
On the third day, God put the animals on hold
Sorry if I'm late to reply - but you might find it useful anyway :-)
My choice of database is primarily based on its ACID-compliance, rather than
price. Having fixed many a datafile in FoxPro, I find the robustness of the
database extremely important.
For client-side or embedded database,
On 11/30/09 10:25 PM, Alex Adams a...@a2technology.com wrote:
Hi Alex,
Valentina - appears to be an excellent choice for all but the embedded
version for Linux
What problems with Linux??
Valentina works on linux.
The current serious consideration is Valentina for the server side and
On 11/30/09 10:20 PM, Troy Rollins wrote:
On Nov 30, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Lynn Fredricks wrote:
Id like to apologize to everyone who I have treated roughly and
without proper respect over the last several years.
Reciprocated. ;-)
Well, I'll look a real heel if I don't bow my head here as
On 11/29/09 11:33 AM, Jan Schenkel wrote:
Hi Richmond,
Printing in rev can be a bit confusing at times, but I have some experience
with it so I can help you find the errors in your ways ;-)
Let's start at the top. In order to print a card to a PDF file, you have to do
a little more than what
I have a project out to bid which is currently spec'd to require
QuickTime on both Mac and Win. The client is discussing this with his
customers to determine whether it will be acceptable to them to install
QT on their systems. In the event that those customers say no I need a
backup, and
Further to what I wrote recently;
XPS is supposedly an open format, but it really is
one of those Microsoft 'things' and reading an
XPS document on a Macintosh is dependent on
non-Free software:
Sana Tech: http://www.sana-tech.com/xps.html
XPS Convert:
I love watching this.. Valentina in this case would have been my choice
all around... I'm pretty sure it is made to handle big jobs, like large
blobs and huge data sets.
Good arguments, Ruslan ...
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Hey Richard,
What about licensing one of those soup-to-nuts javascript players like JW
Player in conjunction with RevBrowswer. Doesn't javascript and Flash run
in RevBrowser?
I think this one has a lot of options:
http://www.longtailvideo.com/players/jw-flv-player/
It appears to play EVERYA/V
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Randall Reetz rand...@randallreetz.com wrote:
I mean ANY form of loyalty. ALL LOYALTY is based on the perception of
belonging which is always defined by exclusivity. It is the friendly face
put on every negative trait exhibited by humans: nepitism, racism,
Will GLX 2 be updated to work with Revolution 4?
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Amen.
Tom McGrath III
Lazy River Software
3mcgr...@comcast.net
iTunes Library Suite - libITS
Information and download can be found on this page:
http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html
On Nov 30, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:
Rev has been around for years now --
I think
We're moving all our GLX2 users over to tRev. Low price, lots of
feature. Check out link below. Feel free to email me with questions,
etc.
je...@daniels-mara.com
Best,
Jerry Daniels
The latest Rev Editor Video:
http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-drag-n-drop-stacks-0
On Nov 30, 2009,
Generic-
Monday, November 30, 2009, 2:18:11 PM, you wrote:
Will GLX 2 be updated to work with Revolution 4?
Is there something that's not working for you? I'm using glx2 with rev
4 with no problems...
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Richard:
I was one person who offered the suggestion. I haven't tried the
revBrowser/Flash setup described specifically as an audio player, but I've
run a Flash-built interactive quiz I made under revBrowser and it seems to
run normally (audio, mouse events, etc).
Short of building your entire
jw flv player is very stable. I've used it before for doing exactly that
(playing mp3 inside rev) and it works quite well.
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 7:47 PM, stephen barncard
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:
Hey Richard,
What about licensing one of those soup-to-nuts javascript players
How about the debugger? It broke in 3.5 and apparently broke Rev's as well
(at least in my setup - OSX). I finally removed it the other day and I can
now use the 'continue' button in the Rev debugger without freezing or
crashing Rev. Despite all the good things said about tRev and my good (pre
I like the look of this. I'm going to have to push an app out to a variety
of hospital settings soon where QT is the exception rather than the norm so
it may well do the job. Thanks (to all concerned) for the recommendation.
Terry...
On 1/12/09 10:36 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com
Terry,
No trial for tRev at this time, Terry. I'll let you know if there is
one. I have never had good luck with trials as a developer of script
editors for Revolution.
What's wrong with the native script editor for Rev 4.0? If you want to
stay with a modal debugger, it's a fine choice.
I¹m moving this conversation from the forum to this, hopefully, wider
audience.
In my initial post I stated:
I am creating my first standalones for a project I have been working on for
almost a year. A fair amount of testing has been done in the development
environment, with no known faults, but
On 1/12/09 11:18 AM, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote:
I know GLX2 is very powerful (manly, too), but since it doesn't touch
any of Rev's data or objects, I wonder how it broke Rev's debugger?
Perhaps you meant to say that with GLX2 running, Rev's debugger
wouldn't run?
Hi Jerry - I
On Nov 30, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Randall Reetz wrote:
Integrity. Transparency of intent.
This thread is done for me.
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On Nov 30, 2009, at 6:44 PM, Terry Judd wrote:
I like the look of this. I'm going to have to push an app out to a
variety
of hospital settings soon where QT is the exception rather than the
norm so
it may well do the job. Thanks (to all concerned) for the
recommendation.
Just pay
On Nov 30, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Troy Rollins wrote:
Just pay attention to the licensing.
Note that the license is by web site.
Here is a really good alternate which is by developer. (and it is
also much cheaper at that.)
http://www.shadowbox-js.com/
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Terry,
I had the same experience you did, only sooner. I created tRev as a
result and switched to it. With tRev, I code less and debug less for
some reason. The workflow definitely changes your approach to
problems. I didn't realize how much I was using GLX2 debugger as a
coding
Hi Alex - I usually just add a 'dummy' datagrid to the stub application
(splash) stack and either place it offscreen or hide it. This automatically
adds the 'data grid templates ' substack to your stub application so
that when you build it any other stacks you call up will have access to the
Troy - thanks for the info. It's for a non-commercial app (for use by
medical students during clinical placements) so I think I'm OK and if I had
to purchase a license then I'm fairly confident that all video files would
be sourced from a single domain. Anyway, it looks like I now have two
Participants in this mail list are an outstanding example
of ethical behavior and responsability. For this reason,
i want to ask you about this What-if scenario.
Suppose that you created for some person, some kind
of software for his small business. As time passed,
you add more features and
Why the threatened continence? Why the need to frame this
conversation as having anything to do with a question of the
viability of RunRev?
This thread started with a call to debate a journalist who asked some
questions about the veracity of some rather strident marketing
statements
The problem is that the folder containing your Rev application has
different names depending on which version of Rev you have. Also, you
may have installed it in various places, and you may have several
versions installed. SO it is next to impossible for tRev to work out
where your Rev application
Sarah:
There are a limited number of locations Revolution can be installed by default.
The idea that you can not iterate through them in reverse order to find the
current default location I prefer to speak in the positive, let's try
again...
I believe you should either:
1: Clearly explain
I ALMOST sent in an email saying that I had installed tRev in the proper
location, but it still didn't work, until I realized I installed tRev in the
same place as the shortcut/alias. DOH! Still, I agree it ought to be fairly
straightforward for tRev to install itself in the current Revolution
The use of that word and words like it are what everyone objects to in
reference to Sarah.
Bob
On Nov 30, 2009, at 3:53 PM, Randall Lee Reetz wrote:
slimy
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It was clear to me the first time. I read the Jerry's site and I thought the
process was explained perfectly. Anyway, this is an app for developers
not 'users' and one might expect the installation to be a bit more
technical . The installation is a little weird because the way it works is
My opinion (and the opinion of most courts) is that software you produce for
someone while in their employ is their property. However, if you produce
software and then market it openly, it is your property, and subject to all
copyright laws that apply.
I suppose the question comes down to
Hey! I purchased both! Do I get a refund?? J/K you deserve the bonus for the
outstanding work you've done. It would be nice to see a full hotkey list
somewhere though. I saw a Feature Friday that showed how to add basic
properties to an objects script, but I forgot how!
Bob
On Nov 30,
This is nowhere near as clearcut as you claim.
If you hire somebody as a direct employee, your answer is correct.
If you pay an outside developer to develop the software, even though it may be
to your design spec, the software IP is the property of the developer unless
explicitly declared
Scott Rossi wrote
Rev has been around for years now --
I think it's quite capable of standing on its own, without the crutch of a
bygone development tool to prop it up.
But comments by those ignorant of the history imply that revTalk is a
new kid on the block and will come and go like so
Does anyone have a library of functions already written for dealing
with vObjects in .ics files?
I'm particularly interested in pre-written date-time functions that can
parse for and deliver the simple iCal date-time stamps
20091130T164200Z
I could go ahead and start writing these myself,
Bob, et al...
I'm proud to say that tRev is very well documented. Some folks are
under the illusion that you have to sit and watch video after video in
order to figure out how to use it. This is simply not true.
tRev Documentation comes in three forms:
1. A Windows and a Mac shortcuts
tRev Installer? Been there, done that. Same result. Not as straight-
forward as you think.
We do have screen shots, bullet lists, videos all over the place on
our site showing where to put the tRev.app.
There are links delivered with the reg codes that specifically exhort
users to read a
Recently, Sivakatirswami wrote:
Scott Rossi wrote
Rev has been around for years now --
I think it's quite capable of standing on its own, without the crutch of a
bygone development tool to prop it up.
But comments by those ignorant of the history imply that revTalk is a
new kid on the
Andre Garzia wrote a lib a long, long time ago (2005) - I have it right
here. -- you guys are pals, you should ask him.
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2009/11/30 Sivakatirswami ka...@hindu.org
Does anyone have a library of
No matter what bells and whistles you heap on xtalk, what separates it from the
other languages (which of course have the same bells) is the human-ness of the
xtalk syntax and the grock-ability of the card/background/stack object
hierarchy. The bells are polish and fit, but the essence is the
My god. An action feels slimy, not a person! Do I seem like a someone who
doesn't speak my mind, that says one thing and means another? If I wanted to
even so much as imply that sarah, who I do not know, is herself, some sort of
person or another, don't you think I would have said so
This is getting annoying and way OT.
This thread is becoming too emotional and confrontational. Can't we talk
about Rev and code?
s
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On 12/1/09 7:19 AM, Sivakatirswami wrote:
Scott Rossi wrote
Rev has been around for years now --
I think it's quite capable of standing on its own, without the crutch
of a
bygone development tool to prop it up.
But comments by those ignorant of the history imply that revTalk is a
new kid on
On 12/1/09 8:59 AM, Randall Reetz wrote:
My god. An action feels slimy, not a person! Do I seem like a someone who
doesn't speak my mind, that says one thing and means another? If I wanted to
even so much as imply that sarah, who I do not know, is herself, some sort of
person or another,
Randall,
your suggestion that GM should have sent a plane ticket to that blogger.
Please be our guest for a few days and meet our staff and get to know our
product from the inside out. You will have full candid access to our top
developers and customers. Although I think you made a HUGE mistake
All decent IDEs have a robust set of programming support, and resource and
project management affordances. What matters, beyond the obvious differences
defined by the language an IDE supports, and what therefore sets one IDE above
another, is how well an IDE matches the personality of its
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