Re: Rodeo: 1st naive question.

2010-07-26 Thread Peter Alcibiades
It seems to be an alternative to Rev, not a complement to it. When fully featured, you will write code in a different IDE, and it will run on any OS that has an HTML5 compatible browser. That is, it will run on all but hobbyist OSs, and it will run in all mainstream browsers. You will not need

Re: Datagrid custom sorting for a column

2010-07-26 Thread Malte Pfaff-Brill
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Re: Rodeo: 1st naive question.

2010-07-26 Thread Richmond
On 07/26/2010 11:19 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: snip The concept of easy to write cross platform HTML5 apps is very interesting, but its an alternative to Rev, its not an extension to it. It would be a very interesting addition to Rev if instead of compiling for the Web, and for plugin enabled

Re: Rodeo: 1st naive question.

2010-07-26 Thread Ian Wood
On 26 Jul 2010, at 10:22, Richmond wrote: Ahah; what I don't understand is why RunRev don't seem to have a problem about something that could be seen as a direct competitor advertising on their use-list: Probably because it's powered by On-Rev/revServer under the hood... ;-)

Re: Rodeo: 1st naive question.

2010-07-26 Thread Richmond
On 07/26/2010 12:42 PM, Ian Wood wrote: On 26 Jul 2010, at 10:22, Richmond wrote: Ahah; what I don't understand is why RunRev don't seem to have a problem about something that could be seen as a direct competitor advertising on their use-list: Probably because it's powered by

IDE on a Mac and on a PC - Same ??

2010-07-26 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Can anybody tell me if the IDE for RunRev is the same on a PC as it is on a Mac ? Having used PC versions of some applications, I often found important differences from their Mac counterparts, but I'm certainly not going to buy the PC RunRev Studio, just for the

Re: IDE on a Mac and on a PC - Same ??

2010-07-26 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Francis, The IDE is the same on Win and Mac but it behaves slightly differently depending on the platform. The engine is also basically the same, but there are a few important differences due to different platforms having different APIs. If you run into problems, it would probably

Re: IDE on a Mac and on a PC - Same ??

2010-07-26 Thread Richard Gaskin
Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Can anybody tell me if the IDE for RunRev is the same on a PC as it is on a Mac ? Having used PC versions of some applications, I often found important differences from their Mac counterparts, but I'm certainly not going to buy the PC RunRev Studio, just for the

Re: IDE on a Mac and on a PC - Same ??

2010-07-26 Thread Richmond
On 07/26/2010 01:15 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Can anybody tell me if the IDE for RunRev is the same on a PC as it is on a Mac ? By PC do you mean Windows or Linux? It never ceases to tick me off how the 'word' PC is used for a Personal Computer that has

Re: IDE on a Mac and on a PC - Same ??

2010-07-26 Thread Richmond
On 07/26/2010 02:25 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: snip then mine, snip -- Richard Gaskin Boy, I must have been asleep; do tell as would love to try it. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: Rodeo: 1st naive question.

2010-07-26 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Ian Wood-3 wrote: On 26 Jul 2010, at 10:22, Richmond wrote: Ahah; what I don't understand is why RunRev don't seem to have a problem about something that could be seen as a direct competitor advertising on their use-list: Probably because it's powered by On-Rev/revServer under the

Re: Regarding Rodeo discussions

2010-07-26 Thread René Micout
Le 26 juil. 2010 à 04:43, Robert Mann a écrit : Should not this be an [OT] discussion?? I always wondered what OT means!! If somebody knows.. OFF TOPIC ?___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: Regarding Rodeo discussions

2010-07-26 Thread Richmond
On 07/26/2010 03:43 PM, René Micout wrote: Le 26 juil. 2010 à 04:43, Robert Mann a écrit : Should not this be an [OT] discussion?? I always wondered what OT means!! If somebody knows.. OFF TOPIC ?___ Yes 'OT' means off-topic. Maybe

Re: Rodeo: 1st naive question.

2010-07-26 Thread Jerry Daniels
Peter, Rodeo users do their development on our site in concert with our revServer CGIs. They are used to translate the Rodeo definitions into HTML5/CSS3/Javascript and to lock/unlock definitions so users can work together on a project without trampling on each others definitions. Shortly,

Re: Regarding Rodeo discussions

2010-07-26 Thread Jerry Daniels
You would be surprised how many posts are tangential. On Jul 26, 2010, at 7:53 AM, Richmond wrote: On 07/26/2010 03:43 PM, René Micout wrote: Le 26 juil. 2010 à 04:43, Robert Mann a écrit : Should not this be an [OT] discussion?? I always wondered what OT means!! If somebody knows..

Re: IDE on a Mac and on a PC - Same ??

2010-07-26 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: On 07/26/2010 02:25 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: snip then mine, snip -- Richard Gaskin Boy, I must have been asleep; do tell as would love to try it. Your quote was trimmed a bit too short to determine what you were referring to, so I had to go back to the original

Re: IDE on a Mac and on a PC - Same ??

2010-07-26 Thread Jerry Daniels
Great post, Richard! Best, Jerry Daniels Join the Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/discuss-among-yourselves-0 On Jul 26, 2010, at 10:11 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Richmond wrote: On 07/26/2010 02:25 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: snip then mine, snip --

News on Rev/Linux

2010-07-26 Thread Richard Gaskin
I've been corresponding with Kevin on some Linux issues, and he just sent me these two screen shots with permission to share them with the Linux fans here: http://fourthworldlabs.com/rev/prelinuxlove_day1.PNG http://fourthworldlabs.com/rev/postlinuxloveday_1.PNG The first is from prior to a

Re: Regarding Rodeo discussions

2010-07-26 Thread Bob Sneidar
If you make a rule you can delete anything containing the word Rodeo from your mail before it even gets to you. Bob On Jul 25, 2010, at 5:56 PM, Jeff Massung wrote: Let me prefix this with I like Jerry (we've shared code and random solutions to problems), I think Rodeo is a great idea, I

Jailbreaking

2010-07-26 Thread Michael Kann
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/26/us_government_legalizes_iphone_jailbreaking_for_unauthorized_apps.html -- watch for line breaks ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

Re: Jailbreaking

2010-07-26 Thread Michael Kann
Some more info: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/07/apple-loses-big-in-drm-ruling-jailbreaks-are-fair-use.ars -- watch for line breaks --- On Mon, 7/26/10, Michael Kann mikek...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Kann mikek...@yahoo.com Subject: Jailbreaking To: How to use

Re: Regarding Rodeo discussions

2010-07-26 Thread Jeff Massung
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: If you make a rule you can delete anything containing the word Rodeo from your mail before it even gets to you. I can also unsubscribe from the list, but I should have to. Honestly, if I (and Jacqueline) are the only ones who

Re: Jailbreaking

2010-07-26 Thread Richard Gaskin
Michael Kann wrote: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/26/us_government_legalizes_iphone_jailbreaking_for_unauthorized_apps.html -- watch for line breaks Interesting. If we get the freedom to run our choice of apps on a given hardware system, will we someday get the freedom to run

Re: Jailbreaking

2010-07-26 Thread David C.
Subject: Jailbreaking To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 11:48 AM http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/0/26/us_government_legalizes_iphone_jailbreaking_for_unauthorized_apps.html I guess then that my original iPhone that I paid *full pop*

Re: Regarding Rodeo discussions

2010-07-26 Thread Michael Kann
Jeff, Jack and Jacqueline, Jeff wrote: I might as well post all my questions about Apache, PHP, and PostgreSQL here as well (every day, constantly), since they are tangentially related to On-Rev. There are other - more suitable - places for me to ask those questions and get answers.

RE: Jailbreaking

2010-07-26 Thread Lynn Fredricks
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/26/us_government_legalizes_ iphone_jailbreaking_for_unauthorized_apps.html -- watch for line breaks Id like to know what the sources have been for this information - the rumor sites have started their share of rumors based on very poor readings of

Re: Jailbreaking

2010-07-26 Thread Bob Sneidar
You can tell the whole world now! :-) But I wonder then if Apple is going to be all that motivated to manufacture high quality computers after people can buy (or download) Mac OS X and run it on a dirt cheap PC? Sometimes we can shoot ourselves in the foot in the name of fair play. Please oh

RE: Jailbreaking

2010-07-26 Thread Michael Kann
Lynn, Not just a rumor: http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1cf=allned=usncl=drR8VIgeKFQSqMMtKh9sJVmfw0j8Mtopic=t -- watch line breaks --- On Mon, 7/26/10, Lynn Fredricks lfredri...@proactive-intl.com wrote: From: Lynn Fredricks lfredri...@proactive-intl.com Subject: RE: Jailbreaking To:

Re: Jailbreaking

2010-07-26 Thread Bob Sneidar
Thanks Lynn. That was a good read. I was intending to jailbreak my 3G iPhone in order to tether it, but there is a little blurb there which says, Computer programs, in the form of firmware or software, that enable used wireless telephone handsets to connect to a wireless telecommunications

Re: Jailbreaking

2010-07-26 Thread Neal Campbell
http://www.copyright.gov/1201/2010/initialed-registers-recommendation-june-11-2010.pdf Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER Amateur Radio: K3NC Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ DXBase bug reports: email to

RE: Regarding Rodeo discussions

2010-07-26 Thread Lynn Fredricks
So rodeo could well be just a piece of the revTalk puzzle, like dataGrids are.. tRev is... and so on.. and have a place here. No. Datagrids and tRev can be used within Rev and become an integral part of the IDE. Rodeo is a non-Rev product that cannot be used with the Rev engine. It is

Re: Jailbreaking

2010-07-26 Thread Neal Campbell
Its not allowed because its not authorized by the operator of the network, which charges for that privilege. Neal ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

Re: Regarding Rodeo discussions

2010-07-26 Thread Andre Garzia
There is a Rodeo list for those interested, I think here they could do announcements and information regarding rodeo transfer but the threads could then move to the other list or forum. This is being polite to all non-rodeo users. From time to time we discuss and circle around threads here, this

RE: Jailbreaking

2010-07-26 Thread Lynn Fredricks
http://www.copyright.gov/1201/2010/initialed-registers-recomme ndation-june-11-2010.pdf Thanks Neil! One thing I notice immediately is that at least one of the not recommended made it to the final list, but others did not. It looks like a lot of really good ones got cut. Best regards, Lynn

Jailbreaking Everything

2010-07-26 Thread Paul Looney
Richard, I'd like to see everything jail broken. Next up: The ability to order a GM car with a Ford transmission and a Mercedes engine (especially the four cylinder, twin turbo, Diesel they have in Europe and Canada). This might spread beyond the US. Sarah could get a Ford Falcon with

ON TOPIC : A REV QUESTION! :-)

2010-07-26 Thread John Dixon
Hi... I have put a stack together on a Mac using an 'English' Mac OS... The stack will run in France... I have just realized that there are a couple of 'Ask' commands littered about the stack that have 'Cancel' and 'OK' in the buttons... Will 'Cancel' be translated into something like

Playing two sound at the same time

2010-07-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Soto
Hello, is there a way to play two sound at the same time ? Revolution 2.8.0 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: Playing two sound at the same time

2010-07-26 Thread Roger . E . Eller
Hello, is there a way to play two sound at the same time ? Revolution 2.8.0 I think you just add without waiting after the play command. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

Re: Regarding Rodeo discussions

2010-07-26 Thread Jim Ault
When there are exciting developments in the Rev community, I like to get the feel of the momentum and interest level. Rodeo is most likely to be best understood by Rev programmers, and where can you find them Not many places on the internet. Further, I would say that very few on this

Re: Regarding Rodeo discussions

2010-07-26 Thread Mark Wieder
I think Rodeo is much more on-topic for this list than something like, say Jailbreaking, which has absolutely no relevance. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url

Re: Regarding Rodeo discussions

2010-07-26 Thread -= JB =-
You guys have spent so much time posting messages about not posting messages about Rodeo I am beginning to think Jerry is one of the best advertisers around by getting you to talk about Rodeo while thinking you are talking about Rev. And to make matters worse he even said the real question is

Re: Jailbreaking

2010-07-26 Thread Mark Wieder
Michael- Monday, July 26, 2010, 10:44:10 AM, you wrote: Lynn, Not just a rumor: http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1cf=allned=usncl=drR8VIgeKFQSqMMtKh9sJVmfw0j8Mtopic=t Oh, right. I forgot about the technique of using a news aggregator as validation. -- -Mark Wieder

Re: Regarding Rodeo discussions

2010-07-26 Thread Michael Kann
Mark, I think you are right. The reason I posted the Jailbreaking link was that I thought it would be of interest to the people who paid $1000 (or was it $1200, don't remember) for the privilege of writing programs for the iPhone. Now we're onto Rodeo, which seems to be more interesting.

Re: Jailbreaking

2010-07-26 Thread Michael Kann
Mark, Do you think it isn't true? Mike --- On Mon, 7/26/10, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: From: Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net Subject: Re: Jailbreaking To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 1:35 PM Michael- Monday, July

Re: ON TOPIC : A REV QUESTION! :-)

2010-07-26 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi John, No, the Cancel and OK button won't change automatically, but I think you can set the labels of the OK and Cancel buttons in the Ask dialog before showing it. Don't change the names, just the labels. I haven't tried this myself. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk

IDE on a Mac and on a PC - Same ??

2010-07-26 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Thanks to Mark and Richard for extremely detailed replies - It took me a long time to digest all that information - But I got what I want and more ! Again - Many thanks. -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time !

Re: Jailbreaking Everything

2010-07-26 Thread Phil Davis
memoryLane I remember a magazine article from my youth (1960's) describing how someone had taken a Fiat 600 and put a Porsche engine in it (I forget if it was a 912 or 911 engine - either one would be quite radical). Now THAT's a jailbreak I can appreciate! I guess it resonated with me

Re: ON TOPIC : A REV QUESTION! :-)

2010-07-26 Thread René Micout
Hi John, set the label of btn Cancel of stack ask dialog to Annuler -- francisation dialogue Bon souvenir de Paris René Le 26 juil. 2010 à 20:17, John Dixon a écrit : Hi... I have put a stack together on a Mac using an 'English' Mac OS... The stack will run in France... I have

Re: Regarding Rodeo discussions

2010-07-26 Thread Mark Wieder
Michael- Monday, July 26, 2010, 11:43:33 AM, you wrote: The reason I posted the Jailbreaking link was that I thought it would be of interest to the people who paid $1000 (or was it $1200, don't remember) for the privilege of writing programs for the iPhone. Now we're onto Rodeo, which seems

RE: ON TOPIC : A REV QUESTION! :-)

2010-07-26 Thread John Dixon
René Thanks... Regards John Dixon _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: Regarding Rodeo discussions

2010-07-26 Thread Michael Kann
Jacqueline, I was wrong. I apologize. When the Rodeopalooza began on this list I sided with Jerry and Sarah. I made the comment that if all the posts were accurately labeled then anyone could decide which posts they wanted to read. Seemed logical enough. It is now clear that procedure is not

Re: Jailbreaking

2010-07-26 Thread Mark Wieder
Michael- Monday, July 26, 2010, 11:45:21 AM, you wrote: Do you think it isn't true? Not the point at all. Using internet news sites, or worse, an aggregator of internet news sites, as validation is only a step above using Wikipedia as an authoritative reference. -- -Mark Wieder

RE: ON TOPIC : A REV QUESTION! :-)

2010-07-26 Thread John Dixon
Mark... Thanks for the tip... I'll try it Regards, John Dixon _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ ___ use-revolution mailing

Re: Regarding Rodeo discussions

2010-07-26 Thread Michael Kann
Mark, I think this one has been flogged enough. Mike --- On Mon, 7/26/10, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: From: Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net Subject: Re: Regarding Rodeo discussions To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 2:07

Re: Jailbreaking

2010-07-26 Thread Michael Kann
Mark, I got confused and sent this message to a parallel thread. It applies to this one as well so I'll repeat it: I think this one has been flogged enough. Mike --- On Mon, 7/26/10, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: From: Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net Subject: Re:

Re: ON TOPIC : A REV QUESTION! :-)

2010-07-26 Thread Devin Asay
On Jul 26, 2010, at 12:56 PM, René Micout wrote: Hi John, set the label of btn Cancel of stack ask dialog to Annuler -- francisation dialogue Bon souvenir de Paris René Le 26 juil. 2010 à 20:17, John Dixon a écrit : Hi... I have put a stack together on a Mac using an

Re: Regarding Rodeo discussions

2010-07-26 Thread François Chaplais
are you talking of the *pre-alpha* mobile rev release? Who is fool enough to expect anything more than a promise for this? Well, that's what I took it for. And I paid for it. And, to be very precise, that was a promise by K. Miller himself for future development on mobile platforms (plural). I

Re: Regarding Rodeo discussions

2010-07-26 Thread Michael Kann
Francois, I don't know anything about the status of mobile rev, so I'll have to let the experts comment on that. For some reason, it seems like Mark and I have gotten on each other's nerves this afternoon, so I wouldn't put too much stock in what either of us have said in the last few posts.

[OT] Franklin 3D - any new examples or projects out there

2010-07-26 Thread Glen Bojsza
As like many, I purchased the MegaBundle that was offered, both for possible immediate use -- future use and to support the Rev community. Currently, I am starting a project that requires 3D plots (Electromagnetic Wave simulations) and thought that Franklin 3D and Rev would be a good solution.

Re: ON TOPIC : A REV QUESTION! :-)

2010-07-26 Thread Andre Garzia
:-O never used profiles before... cool... Thanks for the tip On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edu wrote: On Jul 26, 2010, at 12:56 PM, René Micout wrote: Hi John, set the label of btn Cancel of stack ask dialog to Annuler -- francisation dialogue Bon

Re: Regarding Rodeo discussions

2010-07-26 Thread Andre Garzia
François, I think roadmap messages are sent just to improve list as only enterprise users gets those notices. Andre 2010/7/26 François Chaplais francois.chapl...@mines-paristech.fr are you talking of the *pre-alpha* mobile rev release? Who is fool enough to expect anything more than a

Re: ON TOPIC : A REV QUESTION! :-)

2010-07-26 Thread François Chaplais
great. Never understood the stuff before. This message is now flagged in my mailbox. Le 26 juil. 2010 à 22:22, Andre Garzia a écrit : :-O never used profiles before... cool... Thanks for the tip On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edu wrote: On Jul 26, 2010,

Re: Regarding Rodeo discussions

2010-07-26 Thread Mark Wieder
Mike- Monday, July 26, 2010, 1:08:17 PM, you wrote: Francois, I don't know anything about the status of mobile rev, so I'll have to let the experts comment on that. For some reason, it seems like Mark and I have gotten on each other's nerves this afternoon, so I wouldn't put too much stock

[Possible BUG] Can someone confirm that calling RevBrowserClose with wrong id will crash app in MacOS X

2010-07-26 Thread Andre Garzia
Hello, Can someone confirm that calling RevBrowserClose with wrong id will crash app in MacOS X? Here on 4.5.0-dp-3 if I call RevBrowserClose with a bad id it will lock the process and die. :-/ silly external... -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code.

Re: IDE on a Mac and on a PC - Same ??

2010-07-26 Thread Mark Talluto
Looking forward to seeing this Richard! Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com On Jul 26, 2010, at 8:11 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: And for Rev users that's a bigger deal than it is for MC users, because among Rev's complexities are a good many differences it introduces

Re: Playing two sound at the same time

2010-07-26 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Jean-Pierre Soto wrote: is there a way to play two sound at the same time ? Currently, the only native way to do this is to use 2 separate players, or to play an imported audioclip while running a player. Alternatively, you could have a revbrowser instance running a Flash file that

Re: IDE on a Mac and on a PC - Same ??

2010-07-26 Thread Andre Garzia
Richard, Great post! It appears Rev universe is about to bloom with new editor options... Just from the top of my head, the editors/IDEs I've seen done in the last few years * Devolution/4W Editor * Galaxy/Constellation/GLX2 * MC IDE * tRev * Concept Editor * Aesu * Scott Rossi über-pretty

Re: [OT] Franklin 3D - any new examples or projects out there

2010-07-26 Thread Björnke von Gierke
I have done something in that direction using animation engine, but it is rather... basic (first entry): http://bjoernke.com/?target=games A non-animated version probably could have up to two hundred points or so, with an acceptable speed. If you do not have animation engine, the download from

Re: Regarding Rodeo discussions

2010-07-26 Thread François Chaplais
Le 26 juil. 2010 à 22:28, Andre Garzia a écrit : François, I think roadmap messages are sent just to improve list as only enterprise users gets those notices. I was talking about links to an a downloadable update. I used to receive those. Best, françois

Re: [Possible BUG] Can someone confirm that calling RevBrowserClose with wrong id will crash app in MacOS X

2010-07-26 Thread Terry Judd
Hi Andre - no problem here. I just get an error message... External execution error: Error description: unknown browser id Rev 4.5.0-dp-3, OSX 10.6.4 Terry... On 27/07/10 7:32 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Hello, Can someone confirm that calling RevBrowserClose with wrong