Re: Keyboards

2010-10-23 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Well thanks to this thread at least I found out where the # key went on the UK Mac keyboards, which maybe might come in handly one day. Its surreal to have it be alt + 3 unmarked. How on earth are you supposed to know that? I guess you have to read the Human Interface Guidelines? -- View

Re: [OT] Mac App Store

2010-10-23 Thread Kay C Lan
Ah, been extremely busy of late and have a brief moment to visit the List to discover nothing has changed, the old OS wars continues lightly disguised as Steve is Satan discussion. I'm a little surprised we are still alive after the previous apocalyptic prophesies made about the previous

on-rev + postgreSQL

2010-10-23 Thread Kay C Lan
Hi All, I've got 3 sec spare to throw out a question and then I got to get back to work - I think Pierre is the one to answer this one. I've got my postgreSQL db all sorted out on on-rev, and can happily access it via irev (thanks Sarah and Andre for your online examples). My problem is I can't

Help please: can't get behavior script to work

2010-10-23 Thread Ian McKnight
Hi I have a number of buttons which are grouped together, and then this group is grouped with other similar groups to form a super-group. I have in excess of 300 buttons then that each represent a date. When I put the mouse over any one of the buttons I want to access an array and display the

Re: Help please: can't get behavior script to work

2010-10-23 Thread André Bisseret
Bonjour Ian, I just tried the following - created: - a stack - a group grButton of 3 buttons: Button1, Button2, Button3 - another group grBtn of 3 buttons: Btn1, Btn2, Btn3 - grouped the two groups in a super group grGlobal - a button BtnBehavior - a field fldTarget - put the following handler

Re: Help please: can't get behavior script to work

2010-10-23 Thread Ian McKnight
Hi Andre It does help when you read the manual :) I did read it but I missed the significance of the last line! Anyway problem is solved all I need do is pass the mouseWithin message in each button - not a great price to pay. And thank you for your very quick reply. On 23 October 2010 15:01,

Re: put input type=file class=upload name=fileX[]

2010-10-23 Thread Rick Harrison
Hi Andre, I've looked at Sarah's code for this, unfortunately it also has a lot of includes, and without access to those includes it is difficult to see all of the code. :-( Other than that it looks nice. Thanks, Rick On Oct 21, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: I am not sure about

Re: [OT] Mac App Store

2010-10-23 Thread Peter Alcibiades
To most people, this has never had anything to do with OS choice or with Apple's stock price. It has to do with corporate conduct. It has to do with the following:- 1) Do you want a society in which your access to applications and thus increasingly to media is in the control of a few

Re: Keyboards

2010-10-23 Thread Colin Holgate
On Oct 23, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Its surreal to have it be alt + 3 unmarked. How on earth are you supposed to know that? I guess you have to read the Human Interface Guidelines? The keys are marked for normal, fn, and shift already. Marking them for option and

Re: Keyboards

2010-10-23 Thread william humphrey
I swear by my Kinesis keyboard. I have it mapped dvorak but it can use the antiquated qwerty method too. On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: On Oct 23, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Its surreal to have it be alt + 3 unmarked. How on earth

Re: put input type=file class=upload name=fileX[]

2010-10-23 Thread Jim Ault
The upload script in this link refers to the Upload Picture sample on Sarah's very cool site. You can see a really good one at http://troz.net/onrev/samples/showscript.irev? showscript=upload.irev by Sarah Reichelt. Going to the corresponding sample page

Re: Help please: can't get behavior script to work

2010-10-23 Thread André Bisseret
Le 23 oct. 10 à 16:29, Ian McKnight a écrit : Hi Andre It does help when you read the manual :) I did read it but I missed the significance of the last line! Anyway problem is solved all I need do is pass the mouseWithin message in each button - not a great price to pay. Ian, Just

Re: [OT] Mac App Store

2010-10-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Kay C Lan wrote: I believe Steve's last 'will spell the end of Apple' decision was made about 30 April when Apple stock was around $261.09. Apple's stock price third-party developer revenue. As a shareholder, I think moving 30% of the Mac world's software revenue into their own pocket is

Re: [OT] Mac App Store

2010-10-23 Thread Richmond
On 10/23/2010 05:40 PM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: To most people, this has never had anything to do with OS choice or with Apple's stock price. It has to do with corporate conduct. It has to do with the following:- 1) Do you want a society in which your access to applications and thus

Re: [OT] Mac App Store

2010-10-23 Thread Colin Holgate
A few times in the past I've bought these discounted bundles, where you get perhaps a dozen applications for less than the price of the most expensive of them. It's generally a good deal, especially if there's just one of them that you were already thinking about buying at full price. Those

Re: [OT] Mac App Store

2010-10-23 Thread Richmond
On 10/23/2010 07:19 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Kay C Lan wrote: I believe Steve's last 'will spell the end of Apple' decision was made about 30 April when Apple stock was around $261.09. Apple's stock price third-party developer revenue. As a shareholder, I think moving 30% of the Mac

Re: Keyboards

2010-10-23 Thread J. Landman Gay
Peter Alcibiades wrote: Well thanks to this thread at least I found out where the # key went on the UK Mac keyboards, which maybe might come in handly one day. Its surreal to have it be alt + 3 unmarked. How on earth are you supposed to know that? I guess you have to read the Human Interface

RE: [OT] Mac App Store

2010-10-23 Thread Lynn Fredricks
I believe Steve's last 'will spell the end of Apple' decision was made about 30 April when Apple stock was around $261.09. Apple's stock price third-party developer revenue. As a shareholder, I think moving 30% of the Mac world's software revenue into their own pocket is one of the

Re: [OT] Mac App Store

2010-10-23 Thread Chipp Walters
Kay, I get it you're a big Apple fan. Good for you. I'm curious, do you make a living writing and selling Mac software, or just investing in Apple stock and watching it rise? Perhaps it might help looking at things from a developer's point of view. Do you think it fair Apple exchanges a 70%

Re: Keyboards

2010-10-23 Thread Peter Brigham MD
Presumably they wanted to have the pound sterling symbol more naturally available, so they swapped the sterling and the # mappings -- option-3 vs shift-3. It would have made more sense for them to have mapped the sterling symbol to shift-4, where the dollar sign is. -- Peter Peter M.

Re: Keyboards

2010-10-23 Thread Colin Holgate
On Oct 23, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Peter Brigham MD wrote: Presumably they wanted to have the pound sterling symbol more naturally available, so they swapped the sterling and the # mappings -- option-3 vs shift-3. It would have made more sense for them to have mapped the sterling symbol to

Re: Help please: can't get behavior script to work

2010-10-23 Thread Peter Brigham MD
On Oct 23, 2010, at 11:41 AM, André Bisseret wrote: Le 23 oct. 10 à 16:29, Ian McKnight a écrit : Hi Andre It does help when you read the manual :) I did read it but I missed the significance of the last line! Anyway problem is solved all I need do is pass the mouseWithin message in

[OT] LaunchPad is a registered trademark - of Canonical Inc.

2010-10-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Turns out that the name LaunchPad is a registered trademark of Canonical Inc., makers of Ubuntu: https://help.launchpad.net/Legal From the USPTO.gov's trademark database: Word Mark: LAUNCHPAD Goods and Services: IC 035. US 100 101 102. G S: LICENSING COMPUTER SOFTWARE. FIRST USE:

Re: [OT] LaunchPad is a registered trademark - of Canonical Inc.

2010-10-23 Thread Colin Holgate
On Oct 23, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Turns out that the name LaunchPad is a registered trademark of Canonical Inc., makers of Ubuntu: Fortunately, the Apple software is called Launch Pad: http://www.apple.com/webapps/productivity/launchpad.html

Re: [OT] LaunchPad is a registered trademark - of Canonical Inc.

2010-10-23 Thread Colin Holgate
On Oct 23, 2010, at 3:51 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: Fortunately, the Apple software is called Launch Pad: http://www.apple.com/webapps/productivity/launchpad.html My mistake, it is indeed Lanchpad: http://www.apple.com/macosx/lion/ It even uses the lowercase p like the Ubuntu one.

Re: on-rev + postgreSQL

2010-10-23 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hello Kay, Hi All, I've got 3 sec spare to throw out a question and then I got to get back to work - I think Pierre is the one to answer this one. I've got my postgreSQL db all sorted out on on-rev, and can happily access it via irev (thanks Sarah and Andre for your online examples). My

Re: Help please: can't get behavior script to work

2010-10-23 Thread Ian McKnight
Do you know I never really thought about using either mouseenter or mousemove :) As I was thinking about various ways to solve my problem it just seemed 'natural' to do something when the mouse was within the button area and I fixed on that. I will alter my code to use mouseEnter because I like

Re: Help please: can't get behavior script to work

2010-10-23 Thread Peter Brigham MD
Beware of mouseenter. In my experience, when the mouse is moving fast mouseenter sometimes doesn't get sent (this ought to be labeled as a bug). Mousemove is more reliable, though it will get called repeatedly. Unless you are doing something very complex on mousemove, however, it won't

Re: [OT] Mac App Store

2010-10-23 Thread Chipp Walters
One more thing. This isn't about OS wars. At least not from the perspective I believe you may be talking about. While I certainly don't agree with Steve on many issues, and one may infer he may be Satan, he's a much smarter Satan than anyone else-- by far. Just look at how weak the competition

Re: [OT] LaunchPad is a registered trademark - of Canonical Inc.

2010-10-23 Thread Richmond
On 10/23/2010 10:51 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: On Oct 23, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Turns out that the name LaunchPad is a registered trademark of Canonical Inc., makers of Ubuntu: Fortunately, the Apple software is called Launch Pad:

Re: [OT] LaunchPad is a registered trademark - of Canonical Inc.

2010-10-23 Thread Richmond
On 10/23/2010 10:57 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: On Oct 23, 2010, at 3:51 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: Fortunately, the Apple software is called Launch Pad: http://www.apple.com/webapps/productivity/launchpad.html My mistake, it is indeed Lanchpad: http://www.apple.com/macosx/lion/ It even uses

Re: [OT] Mac App Store

2010-10-23 Thread Richmond
On 10/24/2010 12:14 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: One more thing. This isn't about OS wars. At least not from the perspective I believe you may be talking about. While I certainly don't agree with Steve on many issues, and one may infer he may be Satan, he's a much smarter Satan than anyone else--

RE: [OT] Mac App Store

2010-10-23 Thread Lynn Fredricks
release the new KIM- a social network phone. It sells-- what-- 500 units it's first month? Can anyone seriously even think Apple could eFF that up as bad? Heck, Apple can rebrand a steaming pile of you know what and sell more than 500 units in a month. Umm . . . really; I thought

Re: [OT] Mac App Store

2010-10-23 Thread Chipp Walters
Exactly. Sharepoint, .NET, SQLServer and other enterprise offerings are all fine products, offering fine value for corporate America and are well-supported. IMO, MS stubbed their toe on WindowsME and Vista. The others were actually pretty good. In fact, I really like Win7. The same version of

Re: [OT] LaunchPad is a registered trademark - of Canonical Inc.

2010-10-23 Thread Chipp Walters
Thanks for that. I was worried about my new app called EYE-tunes. I now expect no legal concerns from Apple because mine's spelled different from there's. On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: On Oct 23, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Turns out

Re: [OT] LaunchPad is a registered trademark - of Canonical Inc.

2010-10-23 Thread Colin Holgate
On Oct 23, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Thanks for that. I was worried about my new app called EYE-tunes. I now expect no legal concerns from Apple because mine's spelled different from there's. Perhaps you could get away with calling it something with inverted text: sǝunʇı

Re: [OT] LaunchPad is a registered trademark - of Canonical Inc.

2010-10-23 Thread stephen barncard
that's hilarious. had me fooled. Ahhh unicode. On 23 October 2010 16:05, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: On Oct 23, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Thanks for that. I was worried about my new app called EYE-tunes. I now expect no legal concerns from Apple because mine's

RE: [OT] Mac App Store

2010-10-23 Thread Lynn Fredricks
But anything they've done in Smartphones or other 'consumer like' products like set top boxes (remember WebTV?), they haven't done as well. The single exception in XBox360-- and to this day I still don't understand how that one succeeded. Xbox / Xbox 360 have been much easier to develop

[ANN] IDE Extension Plugin on revOnline

2010-10-23 Thread zryip theSlug
Dear List, About a month ago the Slug has announced the availability of a small plugin to extend the capability of the IDE. In case you missed it, this plugin allows: - resizing of selected controls by 1 pixel with arrowkeys when the alt key is pressed. With the shift key modifier, the controls

Re: [ANN] IDE Extension Plugin on revOnline

2010-10-23 Thread Andre Garzia
Cool :D thanks for that :D On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 9:34 PM, zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.comwrote: Dear List, About a month ago the Slug has announced the availability of a small plugin to extend the capability of the IDE. In case you missed it, this plugin allows: - resizing

Re: put input type=file class=upload name=fileX[]

2010-10-23 Thread Rick Harrison
Hi Andre, Jim, Sarah, Richard Thanks for your help on this. I finally got it to work, and without any javascript! I had to write a PHP script first to better understand exactly what was going on, and then I was able to apply what I learned to Sarah's Livecode example. So now the solution is