Re: [OT] Sony music installs secret malware gateway

2005-11-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No Richard, it's not just for PCs... http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/05/11/11/064215.shtml?tid=233tid=3 The difference at play is critical: On a Mac the user has to at least do something explcit, while on Windows unless you've specifically reconfigured your system

Re: [OT] Sony music installs secret malware gateway

2005-11-11 Thread xavier . bury
it's true about the auto-launch not helping when the cd contains malware (of which MS is not responsible - not that i commend MS on anything) but in my long long mac os experience, the number of users that read manuals, eulas etc is rather dismal!!! It's usually install first fix later...

Re: [OT] Sony music installs secret malware gateway

2005-11-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be nice if religious animosities were replaced with real professional comments instead of Mac this, pc that This isn't a religious issue. Humans are humans, and they don't read manuals on either platform. The critical element at play here is that -- before

Re: [OT] Sony music installs secret malware gateway

2005-11-11 Thread Chipp Walters
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be nice if religious animosities were replaced with real professional comments instead of Mac this, pc that (not the first time i tell you it's not very professional looking for enterprise users to read)... Instead we could work on pushing up standards in

Re: [OT] Sony music installs secret malware gateway

2005-11-11 Thread Peter T. Evensen
Just a clarification: from everything I read, you have to accept the Sony EULA on Windows before it will install the rootkit, so it isn't automatic on Windows. The installer automatically runs, but nothing is automatically installed unless you click ok. So the problem isn't the autorun, per

Re: [OT] Sony music installs secret malware gateway

2005-11-11 Thread Andre Garzia
On Nov 11, 2005, at 8:22 PM, Peter T. Evensen wrote: Just a clarification: from everything I read, you have to accept the Sony EULA on Windows before it will install the rootkit, so it isn't automatic on Windows. The installer automatically runs, but nothing is automatically installed

Re: [OT] Sony music installs secret malware gateway

2005-11-11 Thread Peter T. Evensen
I know it installs a RootKit, but you have to accept the EULA before it will.That is my understanding. In any case, I will be boycotting Sony in all forms in the future. At 04:29 PM 11/11/2005, you wrote: On Nov 11, 2005, at 8:22 PM, Peter T. Evensen wrote: Just a clarification: from

Re: [OT] Sony music installs secret malware gateway

2005-11-11 Thread Andre Garzia
On Nov 11, 2005, at 8:38 PM, Peter T. Evensen wrote: I know it installs a RootKit, but you have to accept the EULA before it will.That is my understanding. yes, that is right. :-) ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: [OT] Sony music installs secret malware gateway

2005-11-11 Thread Dave LeYanna
This EULA is not like most others. It does not say that it installs a rootkit. One can only assume that it is installing legal software to protect it's digital rights. This is semi-reasonable. One would NEVER expect that it would do what it is doing! There are laws against this kind of action!

Re: [OT] Sony music installs secret malware gateway

2005-11-11 Thread Mark Wieder
Andre- Friday, November 11, 2005, 2:29:42 PM, you wrote: It installs a friggin RootKit on the system!! And thats not all, the RootKit makes all files prefixed with $sys$ invisible to the average user, and that is already being exploited by Virus writers on the wild This just in...

RE: [OT] Sony music installs secret malware gateway

2005-11-11 Thread MisterX
Well, PC comments coming out of the blue like that... I wasn't too sure. Richard has said he depends on PC users and was trying to answer issues about autorun on PCs opened by a user previously (which I missed!) While we laugh at these companies doing these big time errors, those working with

[OT] Sony music installs secret malware gateway

2005-11-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
We were recently discussing the pros and cons of Windows auto-run files for CDs. It turns out that the biggest threat isn't some 14-year-old with a grudge -- it's one of the world's largest corporations: Posted on Thu, Nov. 10, 2005 Viruses exploit Sony CD copy-protection scheme SAN JOSE,

Re: [OT] Sony music installs secret malware gateway

2005-11-10 Thread xavier . bury
No Richard, it's not just for PCs... http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/05/11/11/064215.shtml?tid=233tid=3 now, who read EULAs anyway? cheers Xavier http://monsieurx.com/taoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/11/2005 08:23:36: We were recently discussing the pros and cons of Windows auto-run files