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On 19/4/08 19:02, "Petrides, M.D. Marian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If we already have a Rev Enterprise license, will we order our
> renewals through Amazon or continue to renew through Run Rev?
>
> If we can do either--and a the same cost, which is more beneficial to
> the folks at RunRev? (
Bill,
The Osborne Effect! Yes, that was it!
I am happy to hear that many new customers are flowing into
Revolution. As others have said, your success means my beloved
programming tool will continue to flourish, so I absolutely wish you
great success!
You are right about making business d
Hi Shari,
> If you publicly post that you are working on a new version, sales of the
> current version take a nosedive. People hold off purchasing, waiting for
> the new version. When it comes out, you do not get all the lost sales
> back. (There's a name for this phenomenon... I do not reca
Hi Peter,
Under which number have you entered your revPrintField bug in the
QCC? I searched for revPrintField, but all bugs that show up are
fixed, except for one enhancement and one that is actually a menubar
bug.
Best,
Mark
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But, I did get 85% of what I was
hoping for. Maybe it will be fixed one of these days. Meanwhile, there is
a workaround at least.
All in all, the beta was fine, and 2.9 a great step forward for Linux.
Peter
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Well, then I'd better start whispering because I am one happy
camper. :-)
On Apr 20, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Shari wrote:
The unhappy folks yell the loudest, while the happy folks whisper in
your ear.
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I've found two things to be true in this world of software:
1. If you publicly post that you are working on a new version, sales
of the current version take a nosedive. People hold off purchasing,
waiting for the new version. When it comes out, you do not get all
the lost sales back. (Ther
Richmond,
>>>
scrubbed Bill Marriott's message as sent to Richmond
Mathewson off-list.
Let us just say that the nub of the message was that
my initial posting under this heading was inflammatory.
<<<
Here's the text of the message:
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Richmond,
>>>
A number of people, including myself, got a
The point was not marketing was the failure of HyperCard
but that without proper marketing it will fall like HypeCard.
Apple did not even need to market HyperCard since they
could have given it away forever and continued to invest
in its research and development. It would have cost them
pennies i
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 7:52 AM, -= JB =- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If they don't properly
> market Revolution we will all suffer & it could fall by the wayside
> like HyperCard.
>
> Ummm, I don't think marketing of any sort, be it good, bad or indifferent,
had anything to do with the demise of
I am having trouble seeing the problem with Mirye marketing
Revolution.
It is obvious this is done in total agreement with the management
at Rev. How they go about marketing the product is important for
everyone. The management at Rev feel this is good or they would
not allow it.
In the long r
> Obviously most of these question will never be answered,
> because that's not how RunRev does it's business. Too bad.
I don't think anyone publishes their strategic plans to an open list for
review. You might get an overview of it if you are a shareholder in the
company. If you are interested i
Dear Bill,
You are about 90% correct. And I really did not mean
my posting to be inflammatory.
However I would quote Mark Wieder's message to you (a
sort of backhanded defence of Runtime Revolution that
actually supports some of what I said and generally
levels things out):
"In RR's defense, I
> Still, the combined branding title of "Mirye Runtime
> Revolution" pales next to:
> "Kirkland Signature Martha Stewart Favorite Holiday Hams"
Costco Revolution - it has a sort of visual appeal, like the big tray of
muffins - we could attach an OS' name to each muffin for a promotional
package :
I think I understand Lynn's response in this. To his mind everything
is great. His new service/company/whatever gets cool publicity, can
piggyback on an existing brand, and it's even legal. To him there's no
dilution of anything, just additions to his stick.
Personally, normally I do hear o
Still, the combined branding title of "Mirye Runtime Revolution" pales
next to:
"Kirkland Signature Martha Stewart Favorite Holiday Hams"
-Scott Morrow
Elementary Software
(Now with 20% less chalk dust !)
web http://elementarysoftware.com/
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> > Id like to bring up an analogy - feeding kids fresh vegetables vs
> > feeding them a Big Mac.
>
> I see you have a web site all about this:
>
> http://starchefs.com/kids/index.shtml
That's funny :-)
There's no "e" in the middle of Fredricks, though many have tried to insert
one. A dodgy an
> BTW, that confusion is all over the Mirye website as well,
> with some references to "Revolution" (as in " Mirye
> Revolution 2.9 Released With Over 500 Improvements"), but
> mostly as "Runtime Revolution" (as in "Mirye Software
> Releases Runtime Revolution 2.9"), or event mixed (as in
> "M
On Apr 19, 2008, at 2:31 PM, Lynn Fredricks wrote:
Id like to bring up an analogy - feeding kids fresh vegetables vs
feeding
them a Big Mac.
I see you have a web site all about this:
http://starchefs.com/kids/index.shtml
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Richmond-
Points well taken.
In RR's defense, I do have to say (and you are no doubt well aware)
that this is the first large-scale beta program they have undertaken,
and as such there will necessarily be some rough edges. One of those,
of course, is that beta-tester expectations should be clear
> If we already have a Rev Enterprise license, will we order
> our renewals through Amazon or continue to renew through Run Rev?
You can renew through RR or through Mirye Online Store. It isnt always a
good thing to put upgrades into the channel. An upgrade "package" often has
a very short life s
...we are preparing Mirye Runtime Revolution for shipment to Amazon.
>
> The name is "Revolution". Unless you're altering it to be a different
> product, why should one product have multiple names?
Right, so even if "Mirye" is being added on, it would be "Mirye Revolution",
not "Mirye Runtim
Richard,
FWIW, I agree with you 100% . TigerDirect Illustrator, indeed.
Anything that confuses Revolution's product identity is not a good
thing. Revolution's lineup is already confusing enough with Media,
Studio, Enterprise options. I've always found the Runtime Revolution
moniker its
Lynn
If we already have a Rev Enterprise license, will we order our
renewals through Amazon or continue to renew through Run Rev?
If we can do either--and a the same cost, which is more beneficial to
the folks at RunRev? (See my comment about motivation behind
continuing to do annual ren
> I can understand the desire to boost branding on a new site,
> but there are other ways to do that, like SEO and traditional
> marketing, without changing the name of the product.
Yes, SEO plays a role, but its an "and" not an "or" part of the total
marketing of a product.
> The last thing I
Well, I do not insist anyone looking through all the world languages for
possible associations of the new worlds we create to be used in
marketing, but by chance it just happened so that the correct
pronunciation of Myrie [mirai] at least in Lithuanian (now one of the
official languages of the
Lynn Fredricks wrote:
> ...we are preparing Mirye Runtime Revolution for shipment to Amazon.
I'm glad to hear RR will have a presence at Amazon, but is
"Mirye" going to be tacked onto the product name like that?
In any marketing we do, yes. We have to differentiate something someone buys
fro
> > ...we are preparing Mirye Runtime Revolution for shipment to Amazon.
>
> I'm glad to hear RR will have a presence at Amazon, but is
> "Mirye" going to be tacked onto the product name like that?
In any marketing we do, yes. We have to differentiate something someone buys
from us from what the
> Hoping I'm not treading where I shouldn't, but I can't help but ask?
> Wasn't Revolution itself somewhat of a "co-branded" version
> of Metacard? How does this differ? As far as I can tell
> from the website, Mirye is dedicated almost exclusively to Revolution.
Revolution differs from MetaC
Hoping I'm not treading where I shouldn't, but I can't help but ask?
Wasn't Revolution itself somewhat of a "co-branded" version of
Metacard? How does this differ? As far as I can tell from the
website, Mirye is dedicated almost exclusively to Revolution.
The other question would be, does Mi
Lynn Fredricks wrote:
...we are preparing Mirye Runtime Revolution for shipment to Amazon.
I'm glad to hear RR will have a presence at Amazon, but is "Mirye" going
to be tacked onto the product name like that?
"Revolution" is a fine name by itself, and with all due respect I'm wary
of the
> >I have to seriously plan product shipments - we are preparing Mirye
> >Runtime Revolution for shipment to Amazon. What goes to
> retail can't be
> >something that's full of issues, since if it is, its more
> likely to be
> >shipped back from distribution after a lot of customer complaints.
Shari,
I was wondering the same thing. Lynn probably can give a better
answer, but here's what I found on Mirye's website (www.mirye.com):
Mirye Software Publishing is the North American publisher of Runtime
Revolution, the leading application and multimedia development
environment base
I have to seriously plan product shipments - we are preparing Mirye Runtime
Revolution for shipment to Amazon. What goes to retail can't be something
that's full of issues, since if it is, its more likely to be shipped back
from distribution after a lot of customer complaints. There's a huge cost
> May be we were ill-informed insofar as 2.9 was announced as
> finished with great fanfare (which it
> deserved) before the Beta testers were made aware that they
> would be rewarded.
The 2.9 beta had a very long cycle, and it should have shipped much, much
sooner than it did. That perhaps conf
Richmond wrote:
Now I don't know what motivated the other Beta
testers; however I am always suspicious at
protestations of disinterested service.
I need to second Sarah's statement:
>>>My motivation for wanting Runtime to prosper is completely selfish.
Even though my use of Rev was in a prol
> Now I don't know what motivated the other Beta
> testers; however I am always suspicious at
> protestations of disinterested service.
I would suppose this to refer to my earlier email in this thread. My
motivation for wanting Runtime to prosper is completely selfish. To
that end I am prepared
A BIG THANK YOU to Runtime Revolution for my copy of
RevMedia 2.9 that arrived yesterday.
Somebody round "here" is at fault; it could be me, or
it could be the people at RR, or it could be both of
us:
BUT
A number of people, including myself, got a very bad
impression about the end-result of Bet
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