Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-12 Thread Jerry Daniels
Good technically thorough post on use of frameworks, run time on iPhone/iPad OS: http://www.devwhy.com/blog/2010/4/12/its-all-about-the-framework.html Last paragraph best, where author wants HyperCard Touch for iPad. Kevin and company should be awarded that contract. Best, Jerry Daniels

Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-12 Thread David Bovill
On 11 April 2010 16:40, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: But note that Apple didn't cancel their MacBook line when they introduced the iPad. They would be a bit silly to do that at this stage. Note though they are putting nearly all their investment into iPhone OS4

Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
David Bovill wrote: On 11 April 2010 16:40, Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.com wrote: But note that Apple didn't cancel their MacBook line when they introduced the iPad. They would be a bit silly to do that at this stage. Note though they are putting nearly all their investment

Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-12 Thread Pierre Sahores
Alike a 2.5 inches multi-tasked server we could connect from any in- output devices we would have to use along the daytime..., a terminal laptop, a video-projector, a tablet device, etc... ? Best, P. Le 12 avr. 10 à 23:09, Richard Gaskin a écrit : As their patent filing I pointed to

Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-12 Thread Andre Garzia
How would we all like it if RunRev allowed any third party developer to just upload stuff that was automatically incorporated into the IDE, which then broke the IDE? I do this at least twice per day... -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code.

Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-12 Thread Jim Kanter
I expect a bright future for the iPad to become a controller device for many apps. Think faders for mixing audio or video, or trackball replacements for color correction and surround-sound mixing applications. How long before stereos and televisions get bluetooth so they can be controlled by the

Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-12 Thread Andre Garzia
nothing will ever replace my newton 2000... That thing could replace a computer! Sadly both my newton and my emate broke, soon, I will go shopping for another one. As a writing device, nothing beats the emate with newtonworks. thats me being nostalgic... Now, if the iPad was half a newton, we

Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-12 Thread Ian Wood
On 13 Apr 2010, at 02:47, Andre Garzia wrote: Still the iPhone OS is quite good, specially version 4 that doesn't run on my iPhone 3G... It runs, it just doesn't multi-task with third-party apps. :-( Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-11 Thread René Micout
Le 11 avr. 2010 à 02:59, Richard Gaskin a écrit : but far more useful than an iPad for general computing and even programming tasks. Richard, The question is what is meant by general computing... For my part, I think iPad will create new uses, and that is what I wait from this tool.

Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
René Micout wrote: Le 11 avr. 2010 à 02:59, Richard Gaskin a écrit : but far more useful than an iPad for general computing and even programming tasks. Richard, The question is what is meant by general computing... For my part, I think iPad will create new uses, and that is what I wait

Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-11 Thread René Micout
Le 11 avr. 2010 à 17:40, Richard Gaskin a écrit : In brief, I see the iPad as one of the most powerful an innovative media CONSUMPTION devices ever. But for media AUTHORING, we still have computers. Richard I agree with that. I also think that the usefulness of the iPad has not yet been

Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-11 Thread Mark Swindell
While the iPad is no LaserDisk, it will have to do. :) For educational consumption media (multimedia), the iPad is what was promised 15-20 years before it could be implemented. I think it could prove very, very valuable in education on myriad levels. Unfortunately we are living in an era

Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-11 Thread Terry Judd
On 12/04/10 8:47 AM, Mark Swindell mdswind...@cruzio.com wrote: While the iPad is no LaserDisk, it will have to do. :) For educational consumption media (multimedia), the iPad is what was promised 15-20 years before it could be implemented. I think it could prove very, very valuable in

Question about RevMobile

2010-04-10 Thread rand valentine
Hi, all. I'm somewhat dismayed by Apple's new agreement that seems to me to quite clearly lock out RevMobile at present. I have purchased it but not even received it yet! And it's not cheap, as you know. I've got a question about implementing anything on an iDevice-- say I write a cute little

Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-10 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Rand, Using revMobile you can just install an app right onto the iPhone(soon the iPad). I think you still need a provisioning profile from apple but you do not need to go through the App store. And, FWIW, don't take these recent discussions as the final word on anything about revMobile. Most

Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-10 Thread David Bovill
On 10 April 2010 16:36, rand valentine jrval...@wisc.edu wrote: Hi, all. I'm somewhat dismayed by Apple's new agreement that seems to me to quite clearly lock out RevMobile at present. I have purchased it but not even received it yet! Send an email to support? AFAIK everyone gets an email

Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
rand valentine wrote: I've got a question about implementing anything on an iDevice -- say I write a cute little program using RevMobile, and just want to run it on my own iPad (which I do not presently own :-)) -- is this not possible -- surely the only way to get anything on your iPad

Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-10 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hi Rand, The other way to go against all of this ? Just code more web apps directly targeted to mobiles devices. If this way will probably not feet all the expected needs in about Gaming softs, i'm confident in the fact that's will be the most productive response able to target 97% of the

Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-10 Thread Web Admin Himalayan Academy
On 4/10/10 5:36 AM, rand valentine wrote: And I must say, although I've owned Macs since first purchasing a new MacPlus, this latest draconian proclamation is the first time I've REALLY SERIOUSLY felt the need to reconsider my loyalty to such a company. rand Aloha, Rand: I would not slam

Re: Modifiable IDE [Was: Question about RevMobile]

2010-04-10 Thread Björnke von Gierke
On 10 Apr 2010, at 18:29, Web Admin Himalayan Academy wrote: How would we all like it if RunRev allowed any third party developer to just upload stuff that was automatically incorporated into the IDE, which then broke the IDE? I know that's completely counter the point you tried to make,

Re: Modifiable IDE [Was: Question about RevMobile]

2010-04-10 Thread David Bovill
Me too - but only within the forthcoming modular IDE and ideally with versioning and other social features that fully supported this. Chaos needs to be organised :) 2010/4/10 Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com On 10 Apr 2010, at 18:29, Web Admin Himalayan Academy wrote: How would we all like it

Re: Modifiable IDE [Was: Question about RevMobile]

2010-04-10 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 10 Apr 2010, at 18:29, Web Admin Himalayan Academy wrote: How would we all like it if RunRev allowed any third party developer to just upload stuff that was automatically incorporated into the IDE, which then broke the IDE? Well . . . I could point out that this happens all the time

Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-10 Thread Alex Tweedly
Richard Gaskin wrote: FWIW, I picked up a netbook a few months ago and have been very happy with it. It weighs only slightly more than an iPad, cost about $200 less, has a physical keyboard, the screen is self-supported so I don't need to hold it with one hand while typing with the other, it

Re: Question about RevMobile

2010-04-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Alex Tweedly wrote: I thought the reason that netbooks were so cheap was because they were under-powered, or under-spec'ed. Do you find them (or it) adequate for general use ? Does it run the full Rev IDE reasonably (I know you use a fairly minimalist one most of the time) ? It's not so

Re: Question on RevMobile

2010-01-26 Thread Bernard Devlin
This is like a Kay Back Machine, right :-) I have some OS/2 books I can send you so they can start working on Revolution for OS/2. http://www.archive.org/web/web.php Bernard On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone wants Rev 4.0 Linux or Classic

Re: Question on RevMobile

2010-01-26 Thread Andre Garzia
wait for my books on BeOS and the NewtonOS... Revolution will be ubiquitous... On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Bernard Devlin bdrun...@gmail.com wrote: This is like a Kay Back Machine, right :-) I have some OS/2 books I can send you so they can start working on Revolution for OS/2.

Re: Question on RevMobile

2010-01-26 Thread Kay C Lan
You guys are just too kind :-) My wife wont have to worry about my birthday or next Christmas ;-) On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: wait for my books on BeOS and the NewtonOS... Revolution will be ubiquitous... On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:40 AM,

Re: Question on RevMobile

2010-01-25 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:01 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: I've not heard any public commitment to the iPhone platform from RunRev, but there have been a lot of requests for it. That'd be right. I finally bite the bullet as I'd decided Rev was going to introduce iPhone

Question on RevMobile

2010-01-21 Thread Mike Kerner
I haven't tried this, but I have some folks here who have iPhone Touches. So, are we going to be able to deploy for them as well? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours,

Re: Question on RevMobile

2010-01-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mike Kerner wrtote: I haven't tried this, but I have some folks here who have iPhone Touches. So, are we going to be able to deploy for them as well? The current shipping Rev engine will not run on iPhones. I've not heard any public commitment to the iPhone platform from RunRev, but there

Re: Question on RevMobile

2010-01-21 Thread Mikey
I see that, but with the announcement of RevMobile, I was wondering aloud if it will also deploy to the Touch -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little

Re: Question on RevMobile

2010-01-21 Thread Brian Yennie
Richard, http://www.runrev.com/newsletter/january/issue85/newsletter1.php?id=NW085S38885 Mike Kerner wrtote: I haven't tried this, but I have some folks here who have iPhone Touches. So, are we going to be able to deploy for them as well? The current shipping Rev engine will not run on

Re: Question on RevMobile

2010-01-21 Thread Colin Holgate
On Jan 21, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Brian Yennie wrote: http://www.runrev.com/newsletter/january/issue85/newsletter1.php?id=NW085S38885 I wonder if the name revMobile will cause any confusion, and people might think it's the RevMobile email service.___

Re: Question on RevMobile

2010-01-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Brian Yennie wrote: http://www.runrev.com/newsletter/january/issue85/newsletter1.php?id=NW085S38885 Thanks. Good to see they've finally gone public with that. I'd read the newsletters more often if I could find them more easily, but looking at the front page of the web site I can't find a

Re: Question on RevMobile

2010-01-21 Thread Brian Yennie
I received it by email and accessed it directly. Brian Yennie wrote: http://www.runrev.com/newsletter/january/issue85/newsletter1.php?id=NW085S38885 Thanks. Good to see they've finally gone public with that. I'd read the newsletters more often if I could find them more easily, but

Re: Question on RevMobile

2010-01-21 Thread J. Landman Gay
Richard Gaskin wrote: I'd read the newsletters more often if I could find them more easily, but looking at the front page of the web site I can't find a link or even a menu item. Did I miss it, or it is buried deeper somewhere in the site? It's in the Developers section. -- Jacqueline

Partner Program [was: Question on RevMobile]

2010-01-21 Thread Jacques Hausser
Le 21 janv. 2010 à 21:26, Brian Yennie a écrit : I received it by email and accessed it directly. An I also received today an E-Mail advertising the RunRev Partner Program. I wonder... could it be something valuable (and affordable - they don't speak so much about the cost) for somebody

Re: Partner Program [was: Question on RevMobile]

2010-01-21 Thread Richard Gaskin
Jacques Hausser wrote: An I also received today an E-Mail advertising the RunRev Partner Program. I wonder... could it be something valuable (and affordable - they don't speak so much about the cost) for somebody like me, retired, developing little-to-medium freeware applications for

Re: Question on RevMobile

2010-01-21 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 5:53 AM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: I haven't tried this, but I have some folks here who have iPhone Touches.  So, are we going to be able to deploy for them as well? When using Apple's development tools, there is effectively no difference between the