Re: revServer Documentation

2010-11-11 Thread Devin Asay
On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: Hey all, I am getting my hands wet for the first time playing with revServer through my on-rev account. I couldn't find much information on its features and what is and isn't available to revServer on the samples site. This seems to be

Re: revServer Documentation

2010-11-11 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Great! Thanks for the insight! :) -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/revServer-Documentation-tp3038378p3038424.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution

Re: revServer Documentation

2010-11-11 Thread stephen barncard
You will need this obscure but incredibly important little document. http://samples.on-rev.com/irev-engine-notes.txt It's the only technical manual for the server product. On 11 November 2010 11:11, Andrew Kluthe and...@rjdfarm.com wrote: Hey all, I am getting my hands wet for the first

Re: RunRev Documentation

2010-04-26 Thread Björnke von Gierke
http://www.bjoernke.com/?target=bvgdocu On 26 Apr 2010, at 10:38, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Can anyone suggest a wa these packaged files can be unpacked into standard XML files so that they can be looked at with an XML editor? ___ use-revolution

Re: RunRev Documentation

2010-04-26 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 26/04/2010 14:45, Björnke von Gierke wrote: http://www.bjoernke.com/?target=bvgdocu On 26 Apr 2010, at 10:38, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Can anyone suggest a wa these packaged files can be unpacked into standard XML files so that they can be looked at with an XML editor? Thank you very

Re: Browser documentation

2010-02-27 Thread Jeff Massung
Sorry to bring this one back up, but I really am having a helluva time getting this to work: on browserBeforeNavigate pBrowser, pURL global browserCancel -- don't actually go there in the browser... stay here put true into browserCancel -- open another browser window

Re: Browser documentation

2010-02-27 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Jeff Massung mass...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry to bring this one back up, but I really am having a helluva time getting this to work: on browserBeforeNavigate pBrowser, pURL       global browserCancel       -- don't actually go there in the browser... stay here

Re: Browser documentation

2010-02-19 Thread J. Landman Gay
Jeff Massung wrote: In the browser documentation I see the following line: To prevent the navigatation from occurring, set the global variable browserCancel to true. Yet that global variable doesn't appear to exist. Am I missing something or is the documentation wrong? It won't exist until

Re: Browser documentation

2010-02-19 Thread Mark Schonewille
Have you actually try to put true into the global variable browserCancel, Jeff? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new

Re: Browser documentation

2010-02-19 Thread Jeff Massung
LOL. I was thinking this was a global in the same vein as lockMessages and such. Okay. Thanks, guys! Jeff M. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription

Re: Browser documentation

2010-02-19 Thread J. Landman Gay
Jeff Massung wrote: LOL. I was thinking this was a global in the same vein as lockMessages and such. Okay. Thanks, guys! I like that you aren't afraid to ask stuff. A lot of new converts are. LockMessages is a property, btw. The Rev engine creates those on startup with default values, but

Re: Browser documentation

2010-02-19 Thread Jeff Massung
Follow-up question: Has anyone here successfully gotten a browser to resize nicely along with the rest of the stack and controls? I can set the rect just fine, but while the mouse button is down and I'm resizing the stack or moving controls around (splitter pane) the browser just completely

Re: Rev Documentation [WAS: Launch another app from my standalone]

2009-09-01 Thread Bernard Devlin
I downloaded an OS X utility (chmox) that can open Windows-only help files (.chm) files. So now I can read the documentation you linked to. You say you can use this FM documentation in a browser, but surely that is only on Windows? Or does FM on OS X install something that enables you to view

Re: Rev Documentation [WAS: Launch another app from my standalone]

2009-08-31 Thread Ian Wood
I suspect the easy availability of something like this is what will make or break the wider acceptance of RevMedia. Ian On 31 Aug 2009, at 14:25, Adrian Williams adr...@clubtype.co.uk wrote: I've seen talk of a 'cookbook' on this list. Perhaps it is time for someone to captalise on that?

Re: Rev Documentation [WAS: Launch another app from my standalone]

2009-08-31 Thread Bernard Devlin
I have to say, I think the Revolution documentation is pretty good. Obviously there are many things available in Rev that one forgets if one is not using Rev almost every day. However, whenever I return to using Rev after some weeks away from it, I find that I never spend more than a couple of

RE: Rev Documentation [WAS: Launch another app from my standalone]

2009-08-31 Thread Jim Bufalini
Adrian Williams wrote: Len, Your observations are correct and I already have Dan's Software at the Speed of thought. It's just that I'm an occasional user of Rev; I don't use it anywhere near full-time. Not coming from a HyperCard background does not prepare one for Rev's principles.

Re: Rev Documentation [WAS: Launch another app from my standalone]

2009-08-31 Thread William Moseid
The D/L link is a compressed Help File (fmpro_help) that one can use in a browser. What Help? Well, in this case it is Filemaker. The reason for including it is to illustrate a reasonable approach for new to expert Revolution developers as another way to present Help for Revolution. This is a

Re: Rev Documentation [WAS: Launch another app from my standalone]

2009-08-31 Thread Len Morgan
Adrian Williams wrote: Dans' book, great though it is as a primer, is not as accessible as many 'QuickStart' guidebooks available these days. I wouldn't expect too much from a Quick Start Guide to Piloting the Space Shuttle. Complicated topics are hard condense down into a Quick Start.

Re: Hardcopy documentation for 2.9

2008-04-12 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hello Marian, Le 11 avr. 08 à 19:24, J. Landman Gay a écrit : Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: Thanks! On Apr 11, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: On 11 Apr 2008, at 17:12, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: 3. Is there an easy way to print out the Transcript Dictionary, the way you can

Re: Hardcopy documentation for 2.9

2008-04-12 Thread Neal Campbell
I got mine printed at Kinkos for $39 with double-sided printing, vinyl front and back covers and comb-binding, not a bad deal. Neal On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 5:30 AM, Eric Chatonet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Marian, Le 11 avr. 08 à 19:24, J. Landman Gay a écrit : Marian Petrides, M.D.

Re: Hardcopy documentation for 2.9

2008-04-12 Thread Petrides, M.D. Marian
Kinko's told me they could not print it because of copyright issues, otherwise I would have gone that route. :-( On Apr 12, 2008, at 7:03 AM, Neal Campbell wrote: I got mine printed at Kinkos for $39 with double-sided printing, vinyl front and back covers and comb-binding, not a bad deal.

Re: Hardcopy documentation for 2.9

2008-04-12 Thread Petrides, M.D. Marian
Thanks, Eric. On Apr 12, 2008, at 4:30 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote: Hello Marian, Le 11 avr. 08 à 19:24, J. Landman Gay a écrit : Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: Thanks! On Apr 11, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: On 11 Apr 2008, at 17:12, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: 3. Is there an

Re: Hardcopy documentation for 2.9

2008-04-12 Thread Neal Campbell
I just queued it on for an on-line print order (also did the Valentina documents) and no one said anything, I do it quite often. Neal On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Petrides, M.D. Marian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kinko's told me they could not print it because of copyright issues, otherwise

Re: Hardcopy documentation for 2.9

2008-04-12 Thread Petrides, M.D. Marian
Wow! Thanks Neal! I just ordered mine--essentially the same price (I had front page in color). Should be ready for pickup tonight. Whoopee! On Apr 12, 2008, at 2:30 PM, Neal Campbell wrote: I just queued it on for an on-line print order (also did the Valentina documents) and no one said

Re: Hardcopy documentation for 2.9

2008-04-11 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Marian, I think very few of us know the answers to these questions. Perhaps you should write to support and let us know the answer? Thanks, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes

Re: Hardcopy documentation for 2.9

2008-04-11 Thread Björnke von Gierke
On 11 Apr 2008, at 17:12, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: 3. Is there an easy way to print out the Transcript Dictionary, the way you can print out the PDF of the User Guide? I don't know about 1 and 2, but you can easily make a printing script on top of my documentation reader, to create

Re: Hardcopy documentation for 2.9

2008-04-11 Thread Marian Petrides, M.D.
Thanks! On Apr 11, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: On 11 Apr 2008, at 17:12, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: 3. Is there an easy way to print out the Transcript Dictionary, the way you can print out the PDF of the User Guide? I don't know about 1 and 2, but you can easily make a

Re: Hardcopy documentation for 2.9

2008-04-11 Thread J. Landman Gay
Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: Thanks! On Apr 11, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: On 11 Apr 2008, at 17:12, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: 3. Is there an easy way to print out the Transcript Dictionary, the way you can print out the PDF of the User Guide? Be cautious. I think

Re: Hardcopy documentation for 2.9

2008-04-11 Thread Petrides, M.D. Marian
Thanks for the tip Jackie. Well, I successfully printed out all 400 pages of the User Guide-- although single-sided is going to be a binding nightmare ? 3 or 4 volumes?. However, given your cautionary note, I may hold off on printing the Transcript Dictionary for now. Heather told me

Re: Hardcopy documentation for 2.9

2008-04-11 Thread J. Landman Gay
Petrides, M.D. Marian wrote: Heather told me that RunRev is coming up with a PDF and hardcopy version of the Transcript Dictionary once the User Guide is out (it's at the printer now) He's probably trying to figure out how to bind all the paper together. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay

Re: Disappearing Documentation

2008-03-29 Thread Ian Wood
On 28 Mar 2008, at 21:28, Trevor DeVore wrote: I didn't think that the standalone engine expired, just the IDE. Are you sure this is accurate Bill? It certainly hasn't worked that way with previous betas, just the IDE. Ian ___ use-revolution

Re: Disappearing Documentation

2008-03-28 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Len, I've had a problem for a while that I could live with but now I NEED to fix. When I use either the Documentation Icon or the Help- Documentation menu, I get the documentation window to come up. When I try and go to the user's guide, it seems to be active (i.e., the icon changes

Re: Disappearing Documentation

2008-03-28 Thread Len Morgan
Thanks Klaus, I managed to find it after a good night's sleep. Do you have any idea why it would not load in the IDE? I can double click any PDF on my desktop and it opens correctly. Does the Adobe Reader (and ONLY the Adobe one) have to be in a certain place for this to work? len morgan

Re: Disappearing Documentation

2008-03-28 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Len, Thanks Klaus, I managed to find it after a good night's sleep. Do you have any idea why it would not load in the IDE? I can double click any PDF on my desktop and it opens correctly. Does the Adobe Reader (and ONLY the Adobe one) have to be in a certain place for this to work?

Re: Disappearing Documentation

2008-03-28 Thread Len Morgan
Klaus Major wrote: Hi Len, Thanks Klaus, I managed to find it after a good night's sleep. Do you have any idea why it would not load in the IDE? I can double click any PDF on my desktop and it opens correctly. Does the Adobe Reader (and ONLY the Adobe one) have to be in a certain place

Re: Disappearing Documentation

2008-03-28 Thread Bill Marriott
Some observations: 1) Is the PDF not visible/not launching, or is the big blue window that says, Click to launch PDF not showing? Perhaps the palette for the docs is off-screen? 2) Never use a beta product to supply a distribution to a customer. Beta software is not for redistribution, and

Re: Disappearing Documentation

2008-03-28 Thread Marian Petrides, M.D.
2) Never use a beta product to supply a distribution to a customer. Beta software is not for redistribution, and the engine will expire on them. (In the case of RC's on April 15). Boy, I somehow missed that. (Big error on my part!) What does one do if one needs to ship a standalone

Re: Disappearing Documentation

2008-03-28 Thread Bill Marriott
Marian, What does one do if one needs to ship a standalone before Rev goes Gold Master? I've been working in 2.9 but will soon need to ship my software (not before April 15 but hopefully not long thereafter). My crystal ball says that you needn't worry. :)

Re: Disappearing Documentation

2008-03-28 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Mar 28, 2008, at 4:12 PM, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote: 2) Never use a beta product to supply a distribution to a customer. Beta software is not for redistribution, and the engine will expire on them. (In the case of RC's on April 15). Boy, I somehow missed that. (Big error on my part!)

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-29 Thread Shari
One of the particular challenges in software documentation (and boy have I experienced this) is that you have to know what something is called before you can find it. That is often the frustation, not that the information is missing, but because I call it something else, I cannot access it.

proof-of-concept Revolution Online Open Dictionary at revcoders.org (was Re: The Documentation)

2007-10-29 Thread Josh Mellicker
I put up a proof-of-concept Revolution Online Open Dictionary. Functionally it is like the MySQL PHP open dictionaries - a simple page per term with user comments. Users can also edit the term definition itself. I spent very little time, so a lot is not working yet, just thought I'd see

Re: proof-of-concept Revolution Online Open Dictionary at revcoders.org (was Re: The Documentation)

2007-10-29 Thread Josh Mellicker
oops, forgot to say where it is! :-o http://revcoders.org/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: proof-of-concept Revolution Online Open Dictionary at revcoders.org (was Re: The Documentation)

2007-10-29 Thread Mark Smith
This looks great! Thanks, Josh! Best, Mark On 29 Oct 2007, at 18:05, Josh Mellicker wrote: http://revcoders.org/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

Re: proof-of-concept Revolution Online Open Dictionary at revcoders.org (was Re: The Documentation)

2007-10-29 Thread Mark Talluto
On Oct 29, 2007, at 10:59 AM, Josh Mellicker wrote: I put up a proof-of-concept Revolution Online Open Dictionary. Pretty cool Josh! Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-28 Thread Gregory Lypny
Light and parsimonious are too different things. The HyperCard books are big because they are fairly exhaustive, but the exposition is tight with well-chosen yet relatively simple examples that encourage you to think of other uses for the commands and functions. Mathematica has made some

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-28 Thread John Tregea
Hi Docu friends, I have been reading the persistant and recurring thread about Rev documentation for a couple of years now. It brings to mind what a good friend of mine said about human communication (she is a writer). When a communication tool (of any sort) is done properly, with a real

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-28 Thread François Chaplais
While playing with docslib_by_bvg.rev ,I have discovered that the dictionnary entries have a categories key, and, it is not empty! actually, it oftens includes several lines, so maybe a reason why it is not displayed in the current dict (studio 2.8.1 for me) is that it cannot be sorted (?)

Re: ANN: BvG Docu + Webnotes patched. (Was Re: The Documentation)

2007-10-27 Thread François Chaplais
Le 27 oct. 07, à 06:54, Andre Garzia a écrit : Hello Friends, I've patched BvG Docu + Webnotes to work with my new server. Those wanting to see this system working need to download again, my new server uses a different scheme for the FTP users so the old login can't be used. More info and

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-27 Thread Mark Smith
I wonder if what we need is some standardised format for rev doc webnotes? Though I lke the idea of one centralised source/repository, it will require someone to host it and maintain it, and though Andre (with BvG Docu-webnotes), and others (with wikis, web-pages etc.) have kindly shown

Re: ANN: BvG Docu + Webnotes patched. (Was Re: The Documentation)

2007-10-27 Thread Jim Carwardine
Andre... Are you still using JaguarPC? I just set up a VPS server there... Jim on 10/27/07 1:54 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Hello Friends, I've patched BvG Docu + Webnotes to work with my new server. Those wanting to see this system working need to download again, my new server uses a

Re: ANN: BvG Docu + Webnotes patched. (Was Re: The Documentation)

2007-10-27 Thread Devin Asay
On Oct 27, 2007, at 12:16 AM, François Chaplais wrote: Le 27 oct. 07, à 06:54, Andre Garzia a écrit : Hello Friends, I've patched BvG Docu + Webnotes to work with my new server. Those wanting to see this system working need to download again, my new server uses a different scheme for the

Re: ANN: BvG Docu + Webnotes patched. (Was Re: The Documentation)

2007-10-27 Thread Andre Garzia
Jim, Yes, but I moved from Discovery VPS to Freedom VPS... I am going up the food chain! :D Cheers andre On 10/27/07, Jim Carwardine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andre... Are you still using JaguarPC? I just set up a VPS server there... Jim on 10/27/07 1:54 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Hello

Re: ANN: BvG Docu + Webnotes patched. (Was Re: The Documentation)

2007-10-27 Thread Andre Garzia
François, This is something related to BvG Docu, not webnotes. The webnotes are stored in the web, they simply don't care about any system or version of anything. The thing that BvG Docu has a reference to my documentation folder is because I simply bundled and distributed my working version. If

Re: ANN: BvG Docu + Webnotes patched. (Was Re: The Documentation)

2007-10-27 Thread François Chaplais
Le 27 oct. 07, à 18:31, Andre Garzia a écrit : François, This is something related to BvG Docu, not webnotes. The webnotes are stored in the web, they simply don't care about any system or version of anything. The thing that BvG Docu has a reference to my documentation folder is because I

Re: ANN: BvG Docu + Webnotes patched. (Was Re: The Documentation)

2007-10-27 Thread mfstuart
preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/ANN%3A-BvG-Docu-%2B-Webnotes-patched.-%28Was-Re%3A-The-Documentation%29-tf4701242.html#a13448431 Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: ANN: BvG Docu + Webnotes patched. (Was Re: The Documentation)

2007-10-27 Thread François Chaplais
Le 28 oct. 07, à 01:14, mfstuart a écrit : Andre, BvG... Any chance the Docu + WebNotes can be a standalone? - .exe file Mark Chances are that, if you want it to be a standalone, this will be for use outside the IDE. This would require that 1) either the documentation is in the

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-26 Thread Mark Smith
Is the webnotes server up? I don't seem to be getting any of the notes that I think exist, and posting new ones doesn't seem to be working... Best, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-26 Thread François Chaplais
Le 26 oct. 07, à 13:38, Mark Smith a écrit : Is the webnotes server up? I don't seem to be getting any of the notes that I think exist, and posting new ones doesn't seem to be working... Did you rebuild the database (or whaterver you may call it)? I did because the stack could not accesst

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-26 Thread Kay C Lan
On 10/26/07, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My only question is whether doc is the best token for us. It seems a bit general, perhaps hard to discern it's for Transcript dictionary lookups. Any suggestions for alternatives? manual, or the abbreviation man

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-26 Thread Richard Gaskin
Kay C Lan wrote: On 10/26/07, Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.com wrote: My only question is whether doc is the best token for us. It seems a bit general, perhaps hard to discern it's for Transcript dictionary lookups. Any suggestions for alternatives? manual, or the abbreviation

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-26 Thread Luis
'help' or 'info'? Cheers, Luis. On 26 Oct 2007, at 15:42, Kay C Lan wrote: On 10/26/07, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My only question is whether doc is the best token for us. It seems a bit general, perhaps hard to discern it's for Transcript dictionary lookups. Any

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-26 Thread Björnke von Gierke
On 26 Oct 2007, at 06:42, François Chaplais wrote: To make things simple, a VERY nice (and IMHO, simple) improvement on the rev online doc would by the ability to send a doc command with syntax doc string where string may be anything and which would have the same effect as typing the string

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-26 Thread François Chaplais
Le 26 oct. 07, à 17:02, Luis a écrit : 'help' or 'info'? Cheers, Luis. 'help' is really good Francois ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-26 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On 10/27/07, Mick Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll throw in my 2 cents worth here. After seeing the ad in a Rev newsletter or some place like that, I got the Beginning Programming for Dummies, and I was very, very, very disappointed. Among other things it seems like whoever wrote the

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-26 Thread Mick Collins
I'll throw in my 2 cents worth here. After seeing the ad in a Rev newsletter or some place like that, I got the Beginning Programming for Dummies, and I was very, very, very disappointed. Among other things it seems like whoever wrote the Rev parts (and they were sparser or fewer than I

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-26 Thread User
Just a small comment, from whose post I now do not recall, How intuitive will man be to non-*nixophiles? Help or Info seems more intuitive... Judy ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-26 Thread Kay C Lan
On 10/27/07, User [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a small comment, from whose post I now do not recall, How intuitive will man be to non-*nixophiles? Granted, but the full 'manual' should click with newbies. Help or Info seems more intuitive... I like help and info as well, unfortunately

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-26 Thread Andre Garzia
Hello Friends, the webnotes server is down at the moment. It will resume shortly with enhanced abilities... since BvG called me Crazy, and I take that as a cumpliment, I'll try to push this forward. Just let me have my dinner and take a bath, been a long day here in Brazil. The webnotes addon

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-26 Thread Ken Ray
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 06:23:17 +1000, Sarah Reichelt wrote: On 10/27/07, Mick Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll throw in my 2 cents worth here. After seeing the ad in a Rev newsletter or some place like that, I got the Beginning Programming for Dummies, and I was very, very, very

ANN: BvG Docu + Webnotes patched. (Was Re: The Documentation)

2007-10-26 Thread Andre Garzia
Hello Friends, I've patched BvG Docu + Webnotes to work with my new server. Those wanting to see this system working need to download again, my new server uses a different scheme for the FTP users so the old login can't be used. More info and download at: http://andregarzia.com/docuwebnotes.html

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-25 Thread Steven Axtell
Tim, I am an RR user like you. I agree with the things that you wrote (have included only part of it here). I had been thinking the same things, but had not taken the time to compose a message. Regards, Steven Axtell - Original Message - From: Timothy Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-25 Thread Mark Swindell
Are the docs all being redone for the 3.0 release? If they are then maybe none of this matters. And speaking of 3.0, is there a projected timeline for that yet? Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-25 Thread François Chaplais
Le 16 oct. 07, à 22:42, Richmond Mathewson a écrit : François Chaplais wrote: version 2.6.1... looks much better organized than in version 2.8.1 Hmm, there is a question of licencing here; but (?) I suppose people who own licences to 2.8.1 may in some way be allowed access to components from

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-25 Thread François Chaplais
Le 25 oct. 07, à 23:38, François Chaplais a écrit : A fine point here actually. I do not have access to the 2.6.1 documentation. At this second, I am considering a buttons for dummies stack which, among other things, point to the Rev docs. I do not want to go into the details of parsing the

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-25 Thread Gregory Lypny
The original HyperCard manuals are hard to beat for parsimony, elegance, and darn good writing in my opinion. Gregory ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-25 Thread Stephen Barncard
The original manuals were more than skimpy. I think you mean the Winkler and Shafer books. The original HyperCard manuals are hard to beat for parsimony, elegance, and darn good writing in my opinion. Gregory -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - -

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-25 Thread Kay C Lan
On 10/25/07, Timothy Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 24, 2007, at 12:12 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: I learnt RR by trial and error, old HC knowledge (founded on Danny goodman's EXCELLENT book...) Me too. However, in my case, my understanding and skill have not grown much beyond

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-25 Thread Stephen Barncard
And of course Danny Goodman. The original manuals were more than skimpy. I think you mean the Winkler and Shafer books. The original HyperCard manuals are hard to beat for parsimony, elegance, and darn good writing in my opinion. Gregory -- stephen barncard -- stephen

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-25 Thread Howard Bornstein
I agree with Gregory. I loved the Hypercard documentation: clear, well-organized, concise, nice examples. I'm looking at the Hypercard Script Language Guide right now. It's 583 pages. I wouldn't call that skimpy. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com - Hide

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-25 Thread Kay C Lan
On 10/26/07, Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The original manuals were more than skimpy. I think you mean the Winkler and Shafer books. The original HyperCard manuals are hard to beat for parsimony, elegance, and darn good writing in my opinion. Gregory Yes, again,

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Kay C Lan wrote: People shouldn't be saying the Rev Docs should be this or that. People should be complaining that Goodman, Shafer, DeVoto, Progue et al have failed to see the vast market of purchasers, stepped into the void to wield their talent in the direction of Rev books. The majority of

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-25 Thread Kay C Lan
On 10/26/07, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The majority of Rev's 4000+ pages of documentation was authored by the DeVoto mentioned above, using a style guideline very similar to the one she used for HyperTalk 2.2: The Book. I was more partial to Dan's 'The Complete Book of

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-25 Thread Mark Swindell
As for a third-party opportunities, get Apple to bundle Rev for free with every Mac and I think we'd see plenty of new books about it. ;) iPerCard? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-25 Thread François Chaplais
Le 26 oct. 07, à 05:55, Richard Gaskin a écrit : The majority of Rev's 4000+ pages of documentation huh? pages? do you mean paper pages? Or do you mean the online doc? (I do not mention the pdf which is not finished). OK, I have just spent the night looking at DocsLib by BvG, and i'm

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
François Chaplais wrote: To make things simple, a VERY nice (and IMHO, simple) improvement on the rev online doc would by the ability to send a doc command with syntax doc string where string may be anything and which would have the same effect as typing the string in the search field of the

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-24 Thread Luis
Aside from the public 'notes', there should also be a private area. Not everyone is online all the time, and some personal notes may just be a reinterpretation of the public notes. Should the 'online' notes be downloaded to a local DB for offline access? Indicated by a change in border

Re: Interactive Documentation ‹ what's needed?

2007-10-24 Thread Jim Carwardine
Count me in too...Jim on 10/23/07 6:45 PM, Len Morgan wrote: Count me in! If we're going to wikiize the docs, it might be nice to have some sort of indication as to the level of information. That's a fancy way of saying having a common notation like NEWBIE: where basic information is and

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-24 Thread Jim Ault
Planning such an effort so it will serve well into the future is difficult. I only mention them as food for thought and not something that should delay progress on improving documention. - I guess one issue could be: Can the documentation be used if the user is not online? Not everyone will be

Re: Interactive Documentation ? what's needed?

2007-10-24 Thread Walton Sumner
I like the idea, too. Count me in too...Jim on 10/23/07 6:45 PM, Len Morgan wrote: Count me in! If we're going to wikiize the docs, it might be nice to have some sort of indication as to the level of information. That's a fancy way of saying having a common notation like NEWBIE:

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-24 Thread François Chaplais
Le 24 oct. 07, à 21:12, Richmond Mathewson a écrit : This is an interesting discussion; and mainly, for me, because it reads as, only, a discussion about how users of Runtime Revolution are going to access the proposed documentation. What has not been addressed are: 1. Any pedagogical

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-24 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Hi all Incidentally I thought about all this when I created the BvG Docu stacks last spring. However, I quickly came to the conclusion that it'd be quite a large project to create a platform for a community driven Documentation. There is open source web software out there for that kind of

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-24 Thread Björnke von Gierke
On 24 Oct 2007, at 22:36, François Chaplais wrote: I mean, why this XML stuff? Why not plain Revolution stacks? I don't know, but it forced them to make the xml external i guess... On the other hand, a Stack has quite an overhead compared to text files (whatever the format (well, maybe not

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-24 Thread Kay C Lan
On 10/25/07, Richmond Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What has not been addressed are: A whole lot removed Whilst everything you said is very valid if I were Danny Goodman, Dan Shafer or David Pogue writing a book to be sold. IMO it doesn't apply to this 'dream'. I don't believe the

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-24 Thread Chipp Walters
On 10/24/07, François Chaplais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean, why this XML stuff? While I'm not in complete agreement on how RR implemented their XML docs, it does make a lot of sense to do it that way. Using XML, others can reuse the documentation content in many different ways. Richard

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-23 Thread Josh Mellicker
Perhaps it's a good idea to take a page from the PHP doc: http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.mysql-info.php It's like a wiki, where there's the official explanation at the top, then a lot of very helpful examples, code snippets and comments below from the community on each page. I could

Re: Interactive Documentation — what's ne eded?

2007-10-23 Thread Josh Mellicker
It would take me a few hours (mostly to export/import/format the current doc content) The cost would be, I will do it if enough people say they'll use it! Editing authority is pretty easy, invite anyone to have an account, since there is an infinite revision history it would be easy to

Re: Interactive Documentation — what's neede d?

2007-10-23 Thread Len Morgan
Count me in! If we're going to wikiize the docs, it might be nice to have some sort of indication as to the level of information. That's a fancy way of saying having a common notation like NEWBIE: where basic information is and EXPERT: if it takes a little more knowledge to grasp. Then a

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-23 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On 10/24/07, Josh Mellicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps it's a good idea to take a page from the PHP doc: http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.mysql-info.php It's like a wiki, where there's the official explanation at the top, then a lot of very helpful examples, code snippets and

Re: Re: Interactive Documentation — what's n eeded?

2007-10-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Josh Mellicker wrote: It would take me a few hours (mostly to export/import/format the current doc content) The cost would be, I will do it if enough people say they'll use it! Editing authority is pretty easy, invite anyone to have an account, since there is an infinite revision history

Re: The Documentation

2007-10-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Sarah Reichelt wrote: However I believe that for this to last and have credibility, it needs to be done by RunRev themselves. Another plus for a plugin that mods the docs: it can be bundled, requiring RunRev to do close to nothing to deliver it to everyone with every install. Users get

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