Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-04 Thread viktoras d.
Thank you Andre! That's what I call a community - one day one wrote wouldn't it be nice to have own Revolinux distro and the next day he is about to download it :-) It would be good to make it small enough to fit into a single CD/LiveCD. Thanks again and Best wishes! Viktoras Andre Garzia

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-04 Thread Peter Alcibiades
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Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-04 Thread viktoras d.
Hi, Peter, indeed, some time ago I used to deploy simple Revolution apps on Puppy. They worked. Apps were compiled using the old engine (2.6). However I have never tried that again with the new Rev 4.x, some day I will :-). Viktoras Peter Alcibiades wrote: Indeed, this would be a great

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Peter Alcibiades
on all. Its the generic level of feature support that is the problem. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Rev-for-Linux-was-Re-iPadding-around-tp1460131p1460886.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 03/02/2010 10:33, Peter Alcibiades wrote: In Ubuntu, you don't do anything - the OS checks for updates and prompts the user as needed, an experience very much like OS X. Yes, of course standard Debian has an update manager which pops up, if you want it to work that way. That's how you will

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Bernard Devlin
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Peter Alcibiades palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: My point about the Rev support is this.  I don't know exactly what you could do to STOP Rev running on Mandriva or the Slackware derivatives.  Its a crazy idea.  It runs on them by default.  Its not that Rev

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread viktoras d.
what about creating our own Debian based Linux distribution?.. We would give it a name of Revolinux with most of the system management utilities (or GUIs for these) written in RevTalk, its own software repositories. This would provide a lot of opportunities and motivation to test and polish

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 03/02/2010 12:17, viktoras d. wrote: what about creating our own Debian based Linux distribution?.. We would give it a name of Revolinux with most of the system management utilities (or GUIs for these) written in RevTalk, its own software repositories. This would provide a lot of

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread viktoras d.
I agree :-), still a) is also valid for developers of any other existing Linux distribution - given enough motivation, people manage to cope with their plates; b) if onRev server is included, then it is not limited to development, but can also be deployed as a server (you know LAMP, so this

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Bernard Devlin
Actually Viktoras, it might not be as much work as at first seems. OpenSuse have now produced a system whereby one can choose to build one's own version of Linux in the cloud. When all the configuration is done, the distro can then just be downloaded and installed. It is certainly within the

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Are you nuts? No value??? this is the elusive x-talk OS! The holy grail and final goal of all x-talk evolution! you blasphemer, heretic, burn him! *foam* ;) On 3 Feb 2010, at 11:42, Richmond Mathewson wrote: On 03/02/2010 12:17, viktoras d. wrote: what about creating our own Debian based

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bernard Devlin wrote: Sorry to disagree Peter, It is not just at the generic level where there are problems. I am assuming by the generic level you mean the way that Rev on Linux is treated like the unloved stepchild of Windows and OS X (developer previews meant to flush out bugs only being

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Andre Garzia
Hello Folks, arriving late on the thread. I used many linux distros till I finally settled on OpenSUSE 11.2. I find Ubuntu very charming and used it from Gusty Gibbon till Karmic Koala (can't remember version numbers but I love those silly names, was waiting for hungry hippo), it was fun to use

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
I guess the upshot of this whole discussion is that everything is a tradeoff. To gain stability we have to lose some freedom. The most stable government is a dictatorship, where only one man's wishes are done and everyone complies with the standard he issues. But of course, nobody wants that.

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread René Micout
YES !! Le 3 févr. 2010 à 18:27, Bob Sneidar a écrit : I guess the upshot of this whole discussion is that everything is a tradeoff. To gain stability we have to lose some freedom. The most stable government is a dictatorship, where only one man's wishes are done and everyone complies with

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
Andre you are a certified genius. Bob On Feb 3, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: If people here are so inclined, I can try to build a simple suse that would bundle Rev without a license (so you would need to put a license on first run) and some useful tools. You could run it as a

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
Andre Garzia wrote: If people here are so inclined, I can try to build a simple suse that would bundle Rev without a license (so you would need to put a license on first run) and some useful tools. You could run it as a virtual machine under vmware or virtualbox and thus test your software

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Andre Garzia
I am no genius, the guys at SUSE (Novell??) are. They made the software, I am just using it. Speaking of software, suse studio is giving me error 500 as of half an hour ago. Must be overwhelmed, as soon as I it is up and running I will try to cook something. Now, a simple pool, for those wanting

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hi Andre, Very interessant synthese. Thanks. It seems it would be a good idea to be back to Suse (i used it from the 5.3 to 9.2 distros, in the past, at the time it was the most usable on the different platforms i had to do with, Yast behind... :-). Never had only one problem to run MC nor

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Pierre Sahores
Andre, If my memory don't freeze ;-) libXext.so.6, libX11.so.6, libm.so.6, libc.so.6, ld-linux.so. 2libraries are needed and installed out of most of the recent distributions, as long as the XWindows support is configured. Best, Pierre Le 3 févr. 10 à 19:34, Andre Garzia a écrit : I am

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Brian Yennie
One possibility for RevBrowser would be to build an alternative using WebKit (aka Chrome, Safari engine). That would allow for the same browser engine on all 3 platforms, instead of locking down projects to the lowest common denominator (i.e., IE). It would certainly support Linux as that is

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Bernard Devlin
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Brian Yennie bri...@qldlearning.com wrote: One possibility for RevBrowser would be to build an alternative using WebKit (aka Chrome, Safari engine). That would allow for the same browser engine on all 3 platforms, instead of locking down projects to the

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-03 Thread Bernard Devlin
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: At the risk of soundy all FOSSy, is the problem with the scripted elements like revPrintField something that one of us scripters could address? I'm just re-iterating Peter's long-standing problems with Rev on

Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Larry Snider wrote: An opinion from a list lurker... I would very much appreciate further development of a Linux version of Rev. (And any other UNIX-type OS for that matter...) ... One aspect that apparently is not given much consideration is the enterprise/infrastructure. Not everyone

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-02 Thread Peter Alcibiades
practical useful and stable, and never having to think about upgrades again, go to Debian Stable. I wouldn't put Ubuntu on any machine I was going to have to support. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Rev-for-Linux-was-Re-iPadding-around-tp1460131p1460272.html Sent from

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-02 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 02/02/2010 21:21, Peter Alcibiades wrote: There's a nice Slackware based educational distribution from Zenwalk. Very worth a look. The Slack base makes it stable and fast. It is Xfce based rather than Gnome. The other one to consider is Skolelinux, aka Debian-EDU. This is Debian Stable

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-02 Thread Larry Snider
A conniption is a display of bad temper. If you have a conniption fit you are throwing a tantrum. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/02/2010 21:21, Peter Alcibiades wrote: There's a nice Slackware based educational distribution from

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-02 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 02/02/2010 22:38, Larry Snider wrote: A conniption is a display of bad temper. If you have a conniption fit you are throwing a tantrum. Thank you very much. I don't know why, but conniption fit has always made me laugh - now I know what it means it still seems rather funny . . . :)

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-02 Thread Peter Alcibiades
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Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter Alcibiades wrote: The way you do Debian is, you stick with Stable, just getting the security and occasional really major application updates, for around 2 years. This is done with apt-get update apt-get upgrade And that's why I use Ubuntu. :) In Ubuntu, you don't do

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-02 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 03/02/2010 01:34, Peter Alcibiades wrote: The way you do Debian is, you stick with Stable, just getting the security and occasional really major application updates, for around 2 years. This is done with apt-get update apt-get upgrade I do this every few months, and you get the

Re: Rev for Linux (was Re: iPadding around?)

2010-02-02 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 03/02/2010 02:26, Richard Gaskin wrote: Peter Alcibiades wrote: The way you do Debian is, you stick with Stable, just getting the security and occasional really major application updates, for around 2 years. This is done with apt-get update apt-get upgrade And that's why I