Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-26 Thread Dave
On 22 Feb 2008, at 16:06, Richard Gaskin wrote: Lars Brehmer wrote: ...do the rev developers themselves plan to make that platform a standalone option? I guess that can't really be answered until everyone has seen the SDK,but isn't it theoretically possible? I am keeping my fingers

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-25 Thread Josh Mellicker
In this case, I've been putting the ID column off to the right and tabbing it off the display. I have a lot of tables with far more columns than they show, for example, a 16 column table with 4 columns showing. This makes it easy, when the user clicks on one row, to show item detail,

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Josh Mellicker wrote: In this case, I've been putting the ID column off to the right and tabbing it off the display. I have a lot of tables with far more columns than they show, for example, a 16 column table with 4 columns showing. A good solution for fixed-width lists, but many of my

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-23 Thread Björnke von Gierke
On 23 Feb 2008, at 02:27, Richard Gaskin wrote: Suppose you want to display records from a database in a multi- column list field. You'll want to keep track of the ID field, but that's just noise to the end-user so you don't want to display it. Currently, you'd have to parse out that

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Björnke von Gierke wrote: On 23 Feb 2008, at 02:27, Richard Gaskin wrote: Suppose you want to display records from a database in a multi- column list field. You'll want to keep track of the ID field, but that's just noise to the end-user so you don't want to display it. Currently, you'd

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-23 Thread Sarah Reichelt
Getting to this thread a bit late... A Windows mobile version of Rev would be great (hey I think I even voted for one in BugZilla about three years ago) but if I could only have one mobile Rev platform then it would be for the iPhone/iPod Touch. These are the first handheld

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Sarah Reichelt wrote: Richard, a lot of the people who say they don't like the iPhone keyboard are won over as soon as they actually use one. In my case it was the other way around. After all, it's rare that Apple does something as completely baseless as the hockey-puck mouse, so I was

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-23 Thread Björnke von Gierke
You complain that my handler deletes the data, so it seems I wasn't clear enough. Obviously there's a custom property, called data. This is what you use to show later parts of, or sorted stuff of, in the field. That is why I said less memory efficient, because there's an additional

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-23 Thread Luis
Just stick some bubble-wrap over the screen! Cheers, Luis. Richard Gaskin wrote: Sarah Reichelt wrote: Richard, a lot of the people who say they don't like the iPhone keyboard are won over as soon as they actually use one. In my case it was the other way around. After all, it's rare that

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
Björnke von Gierke wrote: You complain that my handler deletes the data, so it seems I wasn't clear enough. Obviously there's a custom property, called data. This is what you use to show later parts of, or sorted stuff of, in the field. That is why I said less memory efficient, because

re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-22 Thread Lars Brehmer
I couldn't agree more! Personally I doubt I will ever learn to use/ code Apple's Xcode or the coming iPhone SDK, but I am sure some of you real cracks out there could develop a rev stack that can convert what is necessary to run a standalone on those devices. Or do the rev developers

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-22 Thread Andre Garzia
Lars, standalones would need an ARM targeted engine and that does not exist (I think). Best options for us is Web apps on iPhone. iPhone javascript support has some nice features so you can build nice webapps for it. andre PS: who has not an iPhone and thus can't test anything. On 2/22/08,

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-22 Thread Richard Gaskin
Lars Brehmer wrote: ...do the rev developers themselves plan to make that platform a standalone option? I guess that can't really be answered until everyone has seen the SDK,but isn't it theoretically possible? I am keeping my fingers crossed! Software is just lights dancing on a screen.

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-22 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Feb 22, 2008, at 11:06 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: PS: who has not an iPhone and thus can't test anything. Perhaps you could try iPhoney http://www.marketcircle.com/iphoney/. My brother Greg says it works OK and he used it a little while developing the iPhone interface to ScreenSteps Live.

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-22 Thread Jim Sims
On Feb 22, 2008, at 5:06 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: iPhone javascript support has some nice features so you can build nice webapps for it. andre PS: who has not an iPhone and thus can't test anything. http://www.marketcircle.com/iphoney/ Not really an iPhone but seems to provide a 'frame'

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-22 Thread Terry Judd
If I were RunRev, long before I jumped on the iPhone bandwaqon I'd make an engine that runs on the Windows-based handhelds. Simpler API, and a much larger installed base. A Windows mobile version of Rev would be great (hey I think I even voted for one in BugZilla about three years ago) but if

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-22 Thread Andres Martinez
Hello Sorry Richard, but I disagree. I recently read (maybe from this same mailing list) that the iPhone has more penetration than Linux within internet-connected devices. If I remember correctly, measurement was taken from Google visitors. If this is correct, the iPhone would be an

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-22 Thread Mark Talluto
On Feb 22, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: So it may be best for Rev to keep focusing on honing the engine for the business tasks currently asked of it, while the Handheld Platform Wars play themselves out for at least another year. Not to get in the way of other important

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-22 Thread Richard Gaskin
Terry Judd wrote: If I were RunRev, long before I jumped on the iPhone bandwaqon I'd make an engine that runs on the Windows-based handhelds. Simpler API, and a much larger installed base. A Windows mobile version of Rev would be great (hey I think I even voted for one in BugZilla about

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-22 Thread Richard Gaskin
Andres Martinez wrote: Sorry Richard, but I disagree. I recently read (maybe from this same mailing list) that the iPhone has more penetration than Linux within internet-connected devices. If I remember correctly, measurement was taken from Google visitors. If this is correct, the iPhone

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-22 Thread Terry Judd
On 23/2/08 9:26 AM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So it may be best for Rev to keep focusing on honing the engine for the business tasks currently asked of it, while the Handheld Platform Wars play themselves out for at least another year. I agree that we need to play the waiting

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-22 Thread Terry Judd
On 23/2/08 10:20 AM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I do know this: Rev is already on the desktop, and to fully exploit the opportunities already before us we really need independent column alignment and zero-width columns in fields. A lot of money is left on the table until

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-22 Thread Martin Blackman
silly question, but what does one do with a zero-width column ? On 23/2/08 10:20 AM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I do know this: Rev is already on the desktop, and to fully exploit the opportunities already before us we really need independent column alignment and

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-22 Thread Stephen Barncard
Hide data in-line in a column in a field row. Associating hidden data with a line can be very useful. Currently we have to hide any such data at the end of a row, out of view. sqb silly question, but what does one do with a zero-width column ? On 23/2/08 10:20 AM, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-22 Thread Jim Ault
I don't know about other programmers, but I would be able to display just the columns I wanted for the user without having to parse a table of data. For example: All data is in one table of 15 columns. Field price would use column 1,2,4,10 which could be [database id][inventory item

Re: RunRev for iPhone and iPod Touch

2008-02-22 Thread Richard Gaskin
Martin Blackman wrote: silly question, but what does one do with a zero-width column ? Not silly at all. I got the idea from Ken Ray, and have been a strong advocate of it since. But when I first heard about it, I had the same question. :) Suppose you want to display records from a