Re: ANN: Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution

2010-06-18 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hello, If you have been waiting with downloading until more information would become available, you can now watch a video showing how to create an installer for Mac OS X. You can watch the tutorial at http://qurl.tk/ cv . I apologise for the bad sound quality. -- Best regards, Mark

Re: ANN: Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution

2010-06-18 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Mark, thanks for the video which perfectly explains an installation creation. Now I can stop struggling on my Installation program ! You appear to have covered all the requirements However, I didn't understand how you create an installer on a MAC, but which will be

Re: ANN: Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution

2010-06-18 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Francis, Just choose Windows instead of Mac OS X in the last step. There are also a few additional options for Windows, such as the Start menu and file extensions. I will cover those additional options in another video later. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk

Feedback on Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution

2010-06-18 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi everybody, I'm getting lots of e-mails about the Installer Maker plugin off-list. It is a real pleasure to know that there is a lot of interest in this tool. Unfortunately, I am very busy and it will take a few days before I can answer all the feedback. I will answer all e-mails, but I

Re: ANN: Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution

2010-06-14 Thread Pierre Sahores
Thanks for the input, Mark ! I will license Installer Maker first and come back to you about a simple licensing and registration system suggestion after some tests and reflexion about my needs. Best Regards, Pierre Le 13 juin 2010 à 21:45, Mark Schonewille a écrit : Thanks, Pierre! I'm

Re: ANN: Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution

2010-06-14 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Glen, No, there is no time frame. All I can say is that I'm working on it. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new

Re: ANN: Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution

2010-06-14 Thread Mark Schonewille
I look forward to reading your e-mail, Pierre. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Economy-x-Talk is always looking for new projects. Contact me for a quote

Re: ANN: Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution

2010-06-14 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Mark, although i am already using InstallGadget, i am interested in your tool. Could you please provide some small sample-installers, so one could see how the created installer looks and works? Regards, Matthias Am 13.06.2010 um 14:47 schrieb Mark Schonewille: Dear RunRev users, As you

Re: ANN: Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution

2010-06-14 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Matthias, The following products use a Windows installer made with the Installer Maker plugin: http://www.twistaword.net/ http://www.celerlex.com/ http://flowproject.economy-x-talk.com/ http://snapper.economy-x-talk.com/ http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com/ The Mac versions just come

Re: ANN: Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution

2010-06-14 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi Mark, thanks for the links. I just wanted to be sure, that there is a real installer for Mac. I have just ordered. Now i have to go back to my problem to find out how to filter the Vuvuzela sound in VLC ;) Regards, Matthias Am 14.06.2010 um 22:50 schrieb Mark Schonewille: Hi

Re: ANN: Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution

2010-06-14 Thread Mark Wieder
Matthias- Monday, June 14, 2010, 2:25:42 PM, you wrote: Now i have to go back to my problem to find out how to filter the Vuvuzela sound in VLC ;) ...wait a month... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list

ANN: Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution

2010-06-13 Thread Mark Schonewille
Dear RunRev users, As you may have read in a recent RevUp at http://qurl.tk/cf , Economy- x-Talk has been working on an Installer Maker plugin for RunRev. This plugin helps you to create installers from your standalones. There's no longer a need for separate installer building software

Re: ANN: Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution

2010-06-13 Thread Pierre Sahores
Congratulations for this, Mark ! Question 1 : How to purchase it ? You says that the webstore is not available yet (under construction ?) even if it seems to be one targeted below the product presentation. Question 2 : Do you expect to add a licensing system processor to your installer's

Re: ANN: Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution

2010-06-13 Thread Mark Schonewille
Thanks, Pierre! I'm still working on the website and it will take a while until everything works the way it should. I have just uploaded a new version of the Installer Maker site, which hopefully takes away the confusion caused by the previous version. You can simply click on the Buy Now

Re: ANN: Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution

2010-06-13 Thread Glen Bojsza
Is there a time frame for when you will have Linux support? I currently am using Fedora 10, 11 1nd 13 also the latest Ubuntu. thanks On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 5:47 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Dear RunRev users, As you may have read in a recent RevUp at

Re: Runtime Revolution?

2010-05-16 Thread René Micout
Oui ! Oui ! Oui ! Oui ! Yes ! Yes ! Yes ! Yes ! Le 14 mai 2010 à 13:16, Robert Mann a écrit : For info I just left this message on his site.. i'm pretty sure we would be quite a few people intresting in such a library --

Re: Runtime Revolution?

2010-05-14 Thread Robert Mann
a good day from France, Robert Maniquant -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Runtime-Revolution-tp2216382p2216427.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution

Re: Runtime Revolution?

2010-05-14 Thread Malte Pfaff-Brill
added my 2 cents: Hi, I think it would be wonderful to have a multichannel audio library that worked cross platform. Basic features like loading / unloading multiple soundfiles and play them back on different sound channels. If there were basic mixing and effect capabilities that would

Re: Runtime Revolution?

2010-05-14 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote: I think it would be wonderful to have a multichannel audio library that worked cross platform. Basic features like loading / unloading multiple soundfiles and play them back on different sound channels. If there were basic mixing and effect capabilities that

Re: SVG, Anti-Grain and Runtime Revolution

2010-02-07 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 07/02/2010 02:02, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote: Richmond wrote: However it does NOT import SVG images; it draws highly complex vector graphics from a code field. If I am not mistaken, SVG is an XML description of an image, so as far as I understand it, it is drawing highly complex

Re: SVG, Anti-Grain and Runtime Revolution

2010-02-07 Thread Richmond Mathewson
I would be extremely grateful if anyone could tell me where Alejandro's stacks have gone: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2007-January/092225.html as Geocities has vanished. sincerely, Richmond. ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: SVG, Anti-Grain and Runtime Revolution

2010-02-07 Thread Alejandro Tejada
in this mail list about any problems with the download links provided. Happy and fruitful 2010 for everyone! Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/SVG-Anti-Grain-and-Runtime-Revolution-tp1470563p1472020.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive

Re: SVG, Anti-Grain and Runtime Revolution

2010-02-07 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 07/02/2010 17:30, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Hi Richmond, New direction is: http://capellan2000.000space.com/ Notice that i have not made significant work with svg... just with Adobe Ilustrator files (vector graphics only for import and export) and PDF files (vector graphics only for export

Re: SVG, Anti-Grain and Runtime Revolution

2010-02-06 Thread Michael Kann
: Pierre Sahores psaho...@free.fr Subject: Re: SVG, Anti-Grain and Runtime Revolution To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Saturday, February 6, 2010, 12:03 AM In between, about driving automatic edition of SVG contents via  Revolution, Context Free can provide a real

Re: SVG, Anti-Grain and Runtime Revolution

2010-02-06 Thread Malte Pfaff-Brill
Ian Mcphails Stack on revOnline is also very impressive: http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/112/SVGL Cheers, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

SVG, Anti-Grain and Runtime Revolution

2010-02-06 Thread Richmond Mathewson
everybody by; and Runtime Revolution have never been shy about improvements they have made in their software. 3. I have taught Russian students English in the USA, and met a fair few Russians elsewhere; including those who make Linux XP for whom I did some translation work 3 years ago

Re: SVG, Anti-Grain and Runtime Revolution

2010-02-06 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 06/02/2010 19:41, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote: Ian Mcphail's Stack on revOnline is also very impressive: http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/112/SVGL Yes it is. However it does NOT import SVG images; it draws highly complex vector graphics from a code field.

Re: Re: SVG, Anti-Grain and Runtime Revolution

2010-02-06 Thread Malte Pfaff-Brill
Richmond wrote: However it does NOT import SVG images; it draws highly complex vector graphics from a code field. If I am not mistaken, SVG is an XML description of an image, so as far as I understand it, it is drawing highly complex graphics from code. :-)

SVG, Anti-Grain and Runtime Revolution

2010-02-05 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi all, I found this text in Anti-Grain website: Founded in 1997, Runtime Revolution focuses on bringing user-centric development to all major platforms: Macintosh, Windows, Linux, and Unix. Runtime Revolution uses Anti-Grain Geometry for simple SVG support on all platforms. http

Re: SVG, Anti-Grain and Runtime Revolution

2010-02-05 Thread Pierre Sahores
, Runtime Revolution focuses on bringing user-centric development to all major platforms: Macintosh, Windows, Linux, and Unix. Runtime Revolution uses Anti-Grain Geometry for simple SVG support on all platforms. http://www.antigrain.com/customers/index.html Interesting, to say the least. Notice that Anti

Runtime Revolution Presents: “Rev 4.0 Lau nch Meet Greet”

2009-11-04 Thread Heather Nagey
Order tickets at EventBrite: http://gorev4usa.eventbrite.com/ Runtime Revolution Presents: “Rev 4.0 Launch Meet Greet” The RunRev team is headed over from Scotland to launch Rev 4.0 and host an event for customers, fans, developers, programmers, and the curious. Come join us at Varnish

Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-17 Thread Richmond Mathewson
This whole set of posts seems somehow redundant when the whole Power Point thing can be handled within Runtime Revolution itself. Making a presentation that is 'Power-Point-like' in Runtime Revolution is extremely easy; and once that's done nobody has to rely on an external program and how

Re: Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-17 Thread Luis
subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Controlling- PowerPoint-From-Within-Runtime-Revolution-tp23085075p23086006.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-17 Thread John Miller
Mathewson wrote: This whole set of posts seems somehow redundant when the whole Power Point thing can be handled within Runtime Revolution itself. Making a presentation that is 'Power-Point-like' in Runtime Revolution is extremely easy; and once that's done nobody has to rely on an external

RE: Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-17 Thread Jim Bufalini
John Miller wrote: 1. They have invested a great deal of time creating PowerPoint files and don't want to redo them. From your follow-on post, this was understood. 2. We live in a powerPoint world. My users are often given a PowerPoint file from their denomination or a guest

Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-16 Thread John Miller
Greetings All, I am trying to write a script that will allow the user to open and show a powerpoint presentation and then give control back to revolution when finished. I am currently using the launch command, but don't like seeing all the PowerPoint startup items. The presentation

Re: Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-16 Thread Phil Jimmieson
Hi John, if you rename the original presentation (or make a copy and then change the name of that), so that the filename extension is pps rather than ppt you get what is called a PowerPoint show - which autostarts when you open it and doesn't display any of the usual PowerPoint stuff (on

Re: Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-16 Thread Luis
Hiya, Insofar as I know, all PowerPoint installs have the PowerPoint Viewer included (at least from Office XP/11 onwards). You can call this from the command line or launch it with the path to the presentation. It's much lighter than the full PowerPoint and quits out quickly, with no

Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-16 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Luis wrote: Not too sure on the Licencing when it comes to wanting to distribute it with your app to which I would answer not at all sure about Microsoft :) and, on a more practical note point to http://www.openoffice.org/ which is FREE, functions perfectly respectably with Power Point

Re: Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-16 Thread Peter Alcibiades
into sight unseen. They cannot then change them at the last minute of course. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Controlling-PowerPoint-From-Within-Runtime-Revolution-tp23074549p23076486.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-16 Thread John Miller
Thanks for the hints everybody. Luis, I don't have any experience with using command lines. Could you describe the process? Is this something that you call from within RR? Also, can any of you comment on the question of handing control back to RR after the presentation is shown?

Re: Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-16 Thread Luis
Hiya, You should be able to 'launch' it just the same. And yes, you can call a command line from within RR, although in this instance I reckon 'launch' ought to do it for you. Cheers, Luis. On 16 Apr 2009, at 13:25, John Miller wrote: Thanks for the hints everybody. Luis, I don't have

Re: Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-16 Thread stephen barncard
With Google docs, most people can now throw away their MS Office, and not even bother with Open Office, which works well, I guess, but just looks so PC. Open Office on the Mac is pretty ugly and it requires X11, an intermediate interface which often confuses neophytes like my father-in-law. For

Re: Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-16 Thread stephen barncard
With Google docs, most people can now throw away their MS Office, and not even bother with Open Office, which works well, I guess, but just looks so PC. Open Office on the Mac is pretty ugly and it requires X11, an intermediate interface which often confuses neophytes like my father-in-law. For

Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-16 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Stephen Barncard wrote: Open Office on the Mac is pretty ugly and it requires X11 Not anymore, it doesn't: http://www.openoffice.org/ anyway, on a Mac I always use NeoOffice: http://www.neooffice.org/ which resembles more closely other Macintosh applications. sincere;y, Richmond Mathewson.

Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-16 Thread John Miller
Hey Guys, I've enjoyed reading all your comments about Open Office, Neo Office, and Google Docs. It may be that I can use this info later. However, for the moment, I wonder if I can rein this discussion in and focus on the problem at hand. My software is a church projection software

Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-16 Thread Mark Stuart
Hi John, I just built a stack to try what you are doing. I also downloaded and installed MS Powerpoint Viewer. I put a field on the stack with the name Filename. In a button, I used the following script to open the powerpoint file using the viewer. on mouseUp if fld Filename is

Re: Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-16 Thread mfstuart
-From-Within-Runtime-Revolution-tp23085075p23086006.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

Re: Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-16 Thread Thomas McGrath III
John, You can launch Powerpoint with a Sample presentation that has just one slide (maybe with the Church's Picture or other) then on that slide put a hyperlink that Says End (or some such) that will take them back to Revolution from within Powerpoint. It's not perfect but at least they

RE: Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-16 Thread Jim Bufalini
Hi John, You can actually do this without ever leaving Rev. In PowerPoint (what version are you running by the way?), there is an option to Save As - Other Formats. Select Web Page (HTM, HTML) - this is in PowerPoint 2007 but the ability to translate PPT to HTML had been around for awhile..

Re: Controlling PowerPoint From Within Runtime Revolution

2009-04-16 Thread Bill Vlahos
Is this stack doing more than launching the document? Does it control the advancing of the slides and/or get feedback from Powerpoint? The example you used is for Windows. Does it also work on the Mac? Bill Vlahos On Apr 16, 2009, at 1:33 PM, Mark Stuart wrote: Hi John, I just built a

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-19 Thread René Micout
Le 18 mars 09 à 23:01, Richard Gaskin a écrit : Or does truly cross-platform mean something else? :) I don't really understand cross-platform concept in Rev ?! What about sheet and drawer witch are Macintosh only stuff. Why other Macintosh specificities (is it english ?) are not

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-19 Thread Judy Perry
René, Richard is trying to demonstrate to Richmond that Director isn't really cross-plat. And I agree FWIW... for what little it is worth ;-) Judy http://revined.blogspot.com On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:42 AM, René Micout rmic...@online.fr wrote: Le 18 mars 09 à 23:01, Richard Gaskin a écrit :

HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Judy Perry wrote; Richard is trying to demonstrate to Richmond that Director isn't really cross-plat. and Richmond has got the point. But, as a consequence, now believes that cross-platform is a term with very little meaning. I am also inclined to agree with what Jim Lambert wrote: There are

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-19 Thread stephen barncard
It's hard to conceive of Rev trying to reCreate what took Apple almost 20 years to develop and it being very good. Quicktime is still the best media handler ever created. I still remember those early developer CDs and the little postage-stamp movies that strained the machines, but were amazing.

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Judy Perry
I certainly wasn't offended. As for the age of the young children, well, mine are nearly 8. They desperately want a cell phone but aren't getting one anytime soon. ;-) Yes, they *would* notice latency. As you say, Kay, in the old days when we all weren't quite so long in tooth, we could all

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread René Micout
Judy, In a previous message (no response at this time) I write : about rewriting PlayCommandAgent from RealBasic to Transcript (an idea... ?), and it is not necessary MIDI (but, I think, the solution need CoreAudio (QuickTime ?) (for Mac) and equivalent for Windows and Linux : ... For

HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread geradamas
Judy's reference to children not likely noticing the sound quality I suspect must be referring to very young children because all the fifth graders at my wife's school all have the latest pop songs blasting out their iPhones when somebody rings, they seem to be very image concscious. Here in

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Luis
Hiya, If there isn't going to be an 'internal' version forthcoming from RunRev anytime soon, why not create a user group bounty system for an external? - Anyone up to the task would propose their 'bounty' OR - A community set bounty which developers would then vie for These could be

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Luis
Hiya, On which side?... :) Cheers, Luis. On 18 Mar 2009, at 12:00, René Micout wrote: Hello Luis, I am interessed by this project René from Paris Le 18 mars 09 à 12:36, Luis a écrit : Hiya, If there isn't going to be an 'internal' version forthcoming from RunRev anytime soon, why

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread René Micout
Hello Luis, I am interessed by this project René from Paris Le 18 mars 09 à 12:36, Luis a écrit : Hiya, If there isn't going to be an 'internal' version forthcoming from RunRev anytime soon, why not create a user group bounty system for an external? - Anyone up to the task would propose

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread René Micout
Luis, I am an amateur musician, a medium rev developper. I make now several virtual musical instruments (exagofon, yasarofon, rizomofon) on Macintosh... I offer all the help I can provide in relation to the requirements and my skills. But I have a disadvantage : english is not my maternal

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Beat Cornaz
On 17 th ,march Kurt wrote : But we still need to create an actual file to be referenced by the QT player, right? We cannot, for instance: set the filename of player MyPlayer to the myMidiData of player MyPlayer [where myMididata is a custom property of the player MyPlayer in

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Beat Cornaz
on march 18th Louis wrote : if there isn't going to be an 'internal' version forthcoming from RunRev anytime soon, why not create a user group bounty system for an external? - Anyone up to the task would propose their 'bounty' OR - A community set bounty which developers would then vie for

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Kay C Lan
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:14 PM, gerada...@yahoo.com wrote: My main problem is to stop kids clicking away as if they have some sort of motor disorder while either a program or a media file loads; these children WANT IT NOW, or, given the chance, even sooner. So LATENCY of all forms is my

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Colin Holgate
On Mar 18, 2009, at 10:12 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: I believe Colin Holgate's instigated MIDI experiment on Jacques slower machine using a field (the slow method) as storage revealed a latency of 8.3 MICROseconds. That was just the reading the data from the field. The bigger slowdown, which

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread René Micout
Hello, From my past message : ... Pmd and MIDI Builder have a common disadvantage : we cannot “Play live“ because of principle : create a MIDI file witch is play by QT player, resulting in a latency of at least 1/5 seconds at the start of the file... Is 1/5 seconds (200 milliseconds) is

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Colin Holgate
On Mar 18, 2009, at 10:52 AM, René Micout wrote: Is 1/5 seconds (200 milliseconds) is too long ? It might be, depends on the application. For setting some music going, that would be quite responsive. For someone trying to play a tune, where you might be playing five notes per second, you

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread René Micout
Yes, I agree, to play live is too long... Le 18 mars 09 à 15:57, Colin Holgate a écrit : On Mar 18, 2009, at 10:52 AM, René Micout wrote: Is 1/5 seconds (200 milliseconds) is too long ? It might be, depends on the application. For setting some music going, that would be quite

HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Richmond Mathewson
I have just uploaded HCDOORBELL.rev to revOnline; find it under 'Richmond' This stack contains 3 notes craftily sucked out of a HyperCard stack and converted into AIFF files. By altering the WAIT period between notes one can get different effects :) Download it, Play with it, Don't say I

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Paris, in the old days when we all weren't quite so long in tooth, we could all roll our own. In HC, I could roll my own tunes without having to know the midi spec and with only knowing how to read sheetmusic. When I wasn't quite so long in the tooth, we used to make our own music

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread stephen barncard
From the feeling I get about MIDI data rates, I don't think it's requirements are any more demanding that the very successful libURL, which is Rev code, so a C++ external is probably overkill. Some work with serial ports (and USB midi) is needed. It's not trivial, but somebody just needs to get

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Luis
Hiya, I think 'limiting' it to MIDI, although handy in itself, would be no good when you want to deal with other types of music files/mixing and _having_ to use QT for that. Music/sounds are more than just MIDI: mp3, aiff, wav, flac, ogg, etc. Cheers, Luis. On 18 Mar 2009, at 16:15,

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Judy Perry
But it relies on QT. That could be a deal killer in a non-Mac instance. And it requires midi. I don't read or write midi. Do you? Do most? Judy http://revined.blogspot.com On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:14 PM,

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Judy Perry
hehehe. Regrettably, I need Rev to make my music. Judy http://revined.bllogspot.com On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Francis Nugent Dixon effe...@wanadoo.frwrote: Hi from Paris, in the old days when we all weren't quite so long in tooth, we could all roll our own. In HC, I could roll my

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Colin Holgate
On Mar 18, 2009, at 2:41 PM, Judy Perry wrote: But it relies on QT. That could be a deal killer in a non-Mac instance. And it requires midi. I don't read or write midi. Do you? Do most? Something like 64% of machines have QuickTime

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Judy Perry
Well, since I have Macs, for me, personally, it isn't an issue, but I've heard from others on this list that they'd really like to be free of QT dependency. Judy http://revined.blogspot.com On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Colin Holgate co...@rcn.com wrote: On Mar 18, 2009, at 2:41 PM, Judy

HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Colin Holgate wrote: Something like 64% of machines have QuickTime You don't say . . . However: 1. Runtime Revolution claims to be truly cross-platform. 2. Lists of system requirements that may require end-users to install other bits and bobs are a guaranteed turn-off. 3. I have a 'funny

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread J. Landman Gay
Richmond Mathewson wrote: For RunRev to claim to be truly cross-platform it needs to become independent of external sources of help, such as Quicktime. It is. If QuickTime is not installed on Windows, Rev uses WMP instead. On Linux it uses mplayer. Mac of course requires QT but that's not an

HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Bulgarian literature for his High School entrance exams - using a CD I authored using RR a couple of years back: it is a good thing that it is largely extremely boring text :) Runtime Revolution is cross-platform insofar as it can lever components that are often present on target platforms

HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Richmond Mathewson
J. Landman Gay wrote: I'm curious how you'd play back video without a video component installed. I have a funny feeling that Adobe/MacroMedia Director manages it by itself. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. A Thorn in the flesh is

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread J. Landman Gay
Richmond Mathewson wrote: J. Landman Gay wrote: I'm curious how you'd play back video without a video component installed. I have a funny feeling that Adobe/MacroMedia Director manages it by itself. You want RR to write an independent, cross-platform, full-featured video and audio player?

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Brian Yennie
That's a bit like saying Quicktime manages by itself. While Flash is more of a RAD tool these days, it is at its heart a media playback engine. Technically, you are correct, but Flash is more the exception than the rule. Normally video is something provided by the OS. With that said, you

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Judy Perry
That's good to know. I probably knew that once upon a time @;-P Thanks Jacque! Judy http://revined.blogspot.com On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:44 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: Richmond Mathewson wrote: For RunRev to claim to be truly cross-platform it needs to become

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Beat Cornaz
Judy wrote : But it relies on QT. That could be a deal killer in a non-Mac instance. And it requires midi. I don't read or write midi. Do you? Do most? I don't read midi fluently either :-) But with a function that does the job it is easy. If you need a function that translate times

HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Richmond Mathewson
is not clear) Runtime Revolution costs $499 about half the 'hit'. No, I don't; but some people on this use-list seem unaware of what it takes both in terms of money and work to build in all the additional stuff. However, I didn't point out that Director could do this because I wanted RR to do this: I

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Judy Perry
Beat, Yes, I'd love to see such a thing! Might well tide me over until/if Rev ever implements such a beast natively :-D Now we just need sound channels... Judy http://revined.blogspot.com On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Beat Cornaz b.cor...@gmx.net wrote: Judy wrote : But it relies on

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread J. Landman Gay
Richmond Mathewson wrote: Runtime Revolution is cross-platform insofar as it can lever components that are often present on target platforms; it is not 'platforn neutral' in that it still depends on those components being there, when they are not a given. I'm curious how you'd play back video

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Judy Perry
, cross-platform, full-featured video and audio player? You'd be happy to pay for one, right? Gosh, must have touched a nerve there. Sorry! Adobe Director costs $999 (whether that is only single platform or for both Mac and Win is not clear) Runtime Revolution costs $499 about half the 'hit

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Beat Cornaz
Louis wrote : I think 'limiting' it to MIDI, although handy in itself, would be no good when you want to deal with other types of music files/mixing and _having_ to use QT for that. Music/sounds are more than just MIDI: mp3, aiff, wav, flac, ogg, etc. I agree. Limiting to midi would not be

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond Mathewson wrote: Adobe Director costs $999 (whether that is only single platform or for both Mac and Win is not clear) Runtime Revolution costs $499 about half the 'hit'. No, I don't; but some people on this use-list seem unaware of what it takes both in terms of money and work

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Terry Judd
On 19/03/09 9:01 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Exercise for the reader: write a script editor in Director (heck, try writing any good text editor in Director). Well you may not get far, but at least your dog of an effort will have paragraph level formatting. Terry...

HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Kurt Kaufman
But i think that midi is a totally different sort of animal than sounds. Midi are just instructions and the sounds you'll be hearing are dependend on the soundmodule, syntheziser, midi instrument or whatever thing that will receive your midi commands. As sounds, well everybody knows what sounds

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-18 Thread Kay C Lan
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Kurt Kaufman kkauf...@snet.net wrote: You could compare vector (draw) graphics to MIDI, and bitmapped (paint) graphics to sound. Nnnoo! Now some nostalgic is going to want to know why the glory days of B/W PICT images in HC aren't cross platform supported

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-17 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Judy Perry katheryn.swynf...@gmail.comwrote: Ummm, geee... thanks Richmond. Now we're never going to get scripted music sound channels, and when somebody asks why, these links will be reposted as state's, er, company's evidence. ;-) I'd hate to say it,

HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-17 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Kay C Lan wrote: I've been sitting back wondering why people want to play door bell jingles on their computer ;-) [Oh, Bad Luck; you thought Richmond was going to take that one on the chin and then smile :) ] Neither do I want to play door bell jingles (even if for the only reason is that I

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond Mathewson wrote: Embedding music files in RunRev / MetaCard stacks comes at quite a hit, both in terms of file size, and RAM requirements; the HyperCard method would be considerably 'cheaper' in both of these respects. MIDI, with QuickTime in a player object. -- Richard Gaskin

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-17 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Richard, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Embedding music files in RunRev / MetaCard stacks comes at quite a hit, both in terms of file size, and RAM requirements; the HyperCard method would be considerably 'cheaper' in both of these respects. MIDI, with QuickTime in a player object. Yep!

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-17 Thread Colin Holgate
On Mar 17, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Klaus Major wrote: MIDI, with QuickTime in a player object. Yep! Alas, if we just could use internal/imported files within a player object... Well, I wasn't fully sure this would work, but it seems to (the first two lines just clear out the previous midi

Re: HC Music that should be on Runtime Revolution

2009-03-17 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Colin, On Mar 17, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Klaus Major wrote: MIDI, with QuickTime in a player object. Yep! Alas, if we just could use internal/imported files within a player object... Well, I wasn't fully sure this would work, but it seems to (the first two lines just clear out the

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