I agree. If it's not useful, then let's not include it.
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Eric Chatonet
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bonsoir à tous,
>
> I would not like to be considered as the ugly duckling but ;-)
> Chipp, Richard and all:
> Would you use (e.g. have a need for) such a function in
Eric Chatonet wrote:
I would not like to be considered as the ugly duckling but ;-)
Chipp, Richard and all:
Would you use (e.g. have a need for) such a function in your 'real'
projects?
As for me my answer is no even if I understand well the challenge it
meant ;-)
That's a helpful point. T
Bonsoir à tous,
I would not like to be considered as the ugly duckling but ;-)
Chipp, Richard and all:
Would you use (e.g. have a need for) such a function in your 'real'
projects?
As for me my answer is no even if I understand well the challenge it
meant ;-)
Le 26 sept. 08 à 20:16, Chipp W
Certainly!
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Richard Gaskin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>
> Chipp, mind if we add it? With credit, of course.
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Mikey wrote:
Umm, what standard library?
It's one of the initiatives of the Rev Interoperability Project (RIP).
Back at the second-ever RevCon, held at a nice B&B in Monterrey, the
attendees were discussing common handlers and found many of us had
worked out the same solutions for ourselves
Umm, what standard library?
Teh n00b
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Robert Brenstein wrote:
On 25/09/08 at 13:15 -0700 Dick Kriesel apparently wrote:
Hi, Chipp. Here's a version that's effectively the same but that has a
couple minor advantages. First, it has a single exit point, possibly
improving maintainability. Second, it executes the corner functions on
Script in a button in a visible substack:
on mouseUp
put item 3 of the screenRect into WID
put item 4 of the screenRect into HIT
if the loc of stack "Visibubble" is within 0,0,WID,HIT then
put "I can see you!" into fld "f1"
if the vis of stack "Visibubble" is false then
put "I ca
Hi Dick,
I assume you benchmarked your function to see if it's faster. I'm not a big
fan of huge nested if then loops, as I find them more difficult to debug--
and I generally think they are slower. I suppose yours is offset by the
single exit point. But, my gut would tell me my function would run
On 25/09/08 at 13:15 -0700 Dick Kriesel apparently wrote:
Hi, Chipp. Here's a version that's effectively the same but that has a
couple minor advantages. First, it has a single exit point, possibly
improving maintainability. Second, it executes the corner functions only
once no matter how many
Hi, Chipp. Here's a version that's effectively the same but that has a
couple minor advantages. First, it has a single exit point, possibly
improving maintainability. Second, it executes the corner functions only
once no matter how many screens there are, possibly improving performance.
-- Dick
Devin,
Yes, you are correct. Here's the latest:
function isStackCurrentlyVisibleOnAnyMonitor pStack
--> pStack IS THE SHORT NAME OF STACK
if pStack is among the lines of windows() then
if not the vis of stack pStack then return false
if the blendlevel of stack pStack = 100 then return fal
A big "Thank You" to everyone who jumped into this thread. This has
been an excellent discussion, with excellent information and tips.
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On Sep 25, 2008, at 12:01 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:
Dick,
Nice find. For some reason I didn't get your email, but I do see it in
Andre's response... HMMM.
function isStackCurrentlyVisibleOnAnyMonitor pStack
--> pStack IS THE SHORT NAME OF STACK
set wholematches to true
if pStack is among the li
Dick,
Nice find. For some reason I didn't get your email, but I do see it in
Andre's response... HMMM.
function isStackCurrentlyVisibleOnAnyMonitor pStack
--> pStack IS THE SHORT NAME OF STACK
set wholematches to true
if pStack is among the lines of windows() then
if the blendlevel of stack
Andre,
Intersect only works with objects, and AFAIK there's no 'screen' object.
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the trick is using intersect()
:D
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:12 AM, Dick Kriesel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, Chipp. Either of the other two corners of the stack could be the only
> corner within a screenrect too.
>
> -- Dick
>
>
> On 9/24/08 6:01 PM, "Chipp Walters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot
Hi, Chipp. Either of the other two corners of the stack could be the only
corner within a screenrect too.
-- Dick
On 9/24/08 6:01 PM, "Chipp Walters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dangit, didn't get the L again..Sorry for the multiple posts .
>
> function isStackCurrentlyVisibleOnAnyMonitor pS
Dangit, didn't get the L again..Sorry for the multiple posts .
function isStackCurrentlyVisibleOnAnyMonitor pStack
--> pStack IS THE SHORT NAME OF STACK
set wholematches to true
if pStack is among the lines of windows() then
if not the vis of stack pStack then return false
if the bl
Hmmm. You wrote:
All stacks are included regardless of their visibility.
Is that true? If so, then my function needs to include the line:
if not the vis of stack pStack then return false
I've included it below.
function isStackCurrentlyVisibleOnAnyMonitor pStack
--> pStack IS THE SHORT NAME OF
Chipp Walters wrote:
>
> Richard Gaskin wrote:
>>
>> if "MyStack" is among the lines of windows() then
...
> OOPS, I do get something, but it's not documented in HELP. Thanks for
> this little jewel :-)
Your welcome, and thanks for noting the strange omission from the docs.
I thought it was th
Typo.. blendlevel is spelled with an 'L' at the end.
function isStackCurrentlyVisibleOnAnyMonitor pStack
--> pStack IS THE SHORT NAME OF STACK
set wholematches to true
if pStack is among the lines of windows() then
if the blendlevel of stack pStack = 100 then return false
repeat fo
This one's better as it checks all the monitor screens (and has the
blendlevel fix)
function isStackCurrentlyVisibleOnAnyMonitor pStack
--> pStack IS THE SHORT NAME OF STACK
set wholematches to true
if pStack is among the lines of windows() then
if the blendlever of stack pStack = 1
Mikey,
Here's a function which might do what you want..course then it might
not either ;-)
function isStackCurrentlyVisibleOnMainMonitor pStack
--> pStack IS THE SHORT NAME OF STACK
set wholematches to true
if pStack is among the lines of windows() then
if the topLeft of stack pSta
Mikey wrote:
> VERY funny. Did you poke a hole in your cheek with your tongue?
Yep, and damn, now every time I take a drink the water spills out of the
side of my face like a dribble glass. That'll teach me... :)
> I have a substack - "Preferences" that has settings for various
> things,
OOPS, I do get something, but it's not documented in HELP. Thanks for
this little jewel :-)
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Chipp Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Richard Gaskin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> if "MyStack" is among the lines of windows() th
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Richard Gaskin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> if "MyStack" is among the lines of windows() then
Huh? I get nothing with that function. Is it one of your custom functions?
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Mikey wrote:
Eric,
Just in case this matters, the stack is a substack. I open RR, and
open the mainstack.
RR is the only application running.
The stack isn't off-screen. The loc is the first thing I checked for,
because I've had situations where stacks migrate to maxint,maxint that
I haven't
Richard,
VERY funny. Did you poke a hole in your cheek with your tongue?
I have a substack - "Preferences" that has settings for various
things, along with numerous cards of HTML templates and CSS, so I can
update the look and feel of my output without having to screw around
with the code.
So
The openStacks list might be a helpful workaround here, which gets me
the elegance I was looking for and the behavior of not altering the
visible. Thanks.
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Le 24 sept. 08 à 22:41, Mikey a écrit :
Eric,
Fiddling around with this some more in 3.0:
1) Created a new stack "t1"
2) Created a new suubstack "t2"
3) put the visible of stack "t2"
true
Correct and you see it :-)
4) put the rect of stack "t2"
735,550
Loc I assume but I underst
Recently, Mikey wrote:
> Along those lines, in the sequence that I described earlier, trying to
> show the substack doesn't do anything, either.
>
> I suppose that it would make sense that this series that I describe
> occurs on a closed stack.
>
> Now to figure out if a stack is closed or not.
Mikey wrote:
This was an attempt to not address the objects directly since I was
trying to evaluate a way to make some code more elegant (IMHO) by
going to the stack directly and navigating through it. Obviously this
isn't working the way I had hoped.
Let's take a look at that if you can spare
Richmond Mathewson wrote:
> 4. put the vis of stack "POO"
>
> which yielded 'true' [obviously]
>
> although I could not see the stack.
>
> So I concluded, with my philosophical hat jammed well down over
> my eyes, that VIS has nothing to do with whether I can see the
> stack or not, but has so
Recently, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
> Unfortunately, while the VIS property exists in Runtime Revolution a
> CLOSED property does not, as far as I am aware.
No, but an openStacks property does, which lists all open stacks, regardless
of visibility.
Regards,
Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile
Along those lines, in the sequence that I described earlier, trying to
show the substack doesn't do anything, either.
I suppose that it would make sense that this series that I describe
occurs on a closed stack.
Now to figure out if a stack is closed or not. Looks like it's time
to generate a cu
Check out "Visibility of substacks" at revOnline under "Richmond".
it does, indded, seem very odd that even when a substack is CLOSED one can set
its VIS to TRUE or FALSE:
i.e. exactly what (I think) Mikey describes; a closed substack (which the human
in front of the monitor cannot see) registe
Eric,
Fiddling around with this some more in 3.0:
1) Created a new stack "t1"
2) Created a new suubstack "t2"
3) put the visible of stack "t2"
true
4) put the rect of stack "t2"
735,550
4) show stack "t2"
nothing happens
5) set the visible of stack "t2" to false
6) set the visible of stack "t
Mickey,
Yes, the visible property of a closed substack is true:
I understand that might be confusing :-)
Actually, the visible property of any stack does not depend on the
fact it is open or not.
It's a status that will be respected when the stack will be opened.
Of course, all this depends on
Mikey,
I got late to this thread so forgive me if I say something terribly
obvious, but you can check the visible of a stack and the result from
intersect() between it's rect and the screen rect to find if it is
visible and in-screen, then unless the blendlevel or the windowshape
is some
Richard,
As I mentioned to Eric, the loc of the (sub)stack is onscreen. I've
verified that due to being bitten recently by some stacks (most often
the msg box, although sometimes the script editor) moving to
maxint,maxint (65535,65535), so whenever I have a window issue, I
first assume that the l
Hi, Eric.
Yes, one would expect that. However, the visible for the (unopened)
substack seems to be true in this case.
I didn't want to get off on this tangent, but showing hidden substacks
seems to a little odd as well, which might be a product of the visible
property not being what I expect, bu
Scptt.
I see that I forgot to mention in the first post that I was dealing
with a substack. I mentioned it in another thread that I started on
indirect addressing, but none of you would know that the posts are
related.
I noticed that you made a comment that the visible of a substack might
not be
May be I'm being a bit goofy, but I just made a stack called "POO" and put the
following commands/messages into the message box:
1. put the vis of stack "POO"
which yielded 'true'
2. set the vis of stack "POO" to false
3. put the vis of stack "POO"
which yielded 'false'
4. set the
Mickey,
Le 24 sept. 08 à 22:06, Mikey a écrit :
Just in case this matters, the stack is a substack. I open RR, and
open the mainstack.
Opening a mainstack don't open its substacks.
You have to open a substack to see it.
Best regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet.
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Richard,
This was an attempt to not address the objects directly since I was
trying to evaluate a way to make some code more elegant (IMHO) by
going to the stack directly and navigating through it. Obviously this
isn't working the way I had hoped.
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Tom,
Thanks for the suggestion. I was going to try to derive something
like that, but I was hoping that I just didn't understand the visible
property and that the solution would be simpler.
It may be that there is still something else going on, but I haven't
figured it out yet.
_
Mikey wrote:
I originally wanted to get the visible of the stack, navigate to the
stack to do something
That may not be necessary. Unlike HyperCard, you can modify any
property of any object in any stack at any time without having to "go"
to it, or even open it per se.
Not sure if that hel
Eric,
Just in case this matters, the stack is a substack. I open RR, and
open the mainstack.
RR is the only application running.
The stack isn't off-screen. The loc is the first thing I checked for,
because I've had situations where stacks migrate to maxint,maxint that
I haven't figured out. T
Recently, Mikey wrote:
> If a stack "x" is not visible on the screen, and I type
> put the visible of stack "x" I get true, even though the stack is
> obviously not visible.
I don't know if your stack is "obviously" not visible. A substack can be
visible and not apparent on the screen because it
Mikey,
In order for a stack to be other than visible you would have to set
this, so why not set a flag that tells you before the stack is opened
what it's state is? then call that state and reset based on that
before you close the stack.
-- in an open statement
put the visible of stack "
Mickey,
Fortunately and as Scott pointed it out, the visible status of a
stack is completely reliable as soon as you have understood what
Scott and me tried to tell you :-)
I take the opportunity, and this is not the first time :-) to tell
how it's important to dig in before maintaining tha
Scott,
If a stack "x" is not visible on the screen, and I type
put the visible of stack "x" I get true, even though the stack is
obviously not visible.
I originally wanted to get the visible of the stack, navigate to the
stack to do something, then set the visible of the stack when I was
done to
It's not that I want to make a stack visible or invisible. I'd like
to prevent that property from changing when I'm done with a stack.
So if I visit a stack, but that stack isn't visible when I get there,
then I'd like it to remain invisible. Conversely, if it was visible,
I'd like to have it re
Recently, Mikey wrote:
> I have a stack that isn't visible - at least not in a visual sense.
>
> However if I put the visible of the stack, I get true.
>
> If I toplevel the stack and set the visible to false, nothing seems to happen.
>
> So, aside from my obvious dementia, does this behavior m
Bonsoir Mickey,
As far as I can tell, there is a way to make any object invisible
when it's visible property is true:
Letting apart that it can be off-screen (in this case, it is obvious)
you just need to set its rect appropriately.
For instance:
set the rect of to 200,200,100,100
So you m
Hmm.
I have a stack that isn't visible - at least not in a visual sense.
However if I put the visible of the stack, I get true.
If I toplevel the stack and set the visible to false, nothing seems to happen.
So, aside from my obvious dementia, does this behavior make any sense?
Is there some wa
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