Re: Mac add-on for PCs [OT?]

2005-01-15 Thread Chipp Walters
Andy, Nothing a can of SprayMount and hammer with a good size nail can't fix ;-) (just kidding for you too serious Mac-heads out there- and I mean you Jerry!) One thing about the miniMac. I went to the Apple website and configured the elCheapo ($499 - 1.25GHz) version how I'd like it: I added

Re: [OT] Request for icon app

2005-01-15 Thread Chipp Walters
Hmmm. I'll have to get a copy of Fireworks and try it out. Thanks for the tip :-) Chipp Richard Gaskin wrote: Having and enjoying are two very different things. :) I have Photoshop 7, I just don't care much for it. Since I do little photo retouching but a LOT of UI stuff, I find Macromedia

Re: MacWorld part 2

2005-01-15 Thread Chipp Walters
Yeah, I did a frustrating stint with iconic development as well. It was the early days of the Mac and some of you may remember a new icon-based driven database program called Odesta Helix. It didn't take too long to figure out dragging icons around on a 512 x 342 resolution screen wasn't going

Re: [ANN] GetInLine, Part III

2005-01-15 Thread Chipp Walters
Scott, This thing is HOT! So hot, in fact, I believe I saw some explosions going off;-) Trevor, are you sure you're using the latest Rev engine? As I recall, the flashing icons on screen capture was fixed. I don't see them on my WinXP machine. best, Chipp Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Trevor

Apple Service alive again (was: OT: need real Apple Service email address)

2005-01-15 Thread Mr D Glasgow
On 14 Jan 2005, at 9:16 pm, Wilhelm Sanke wrote: keine Angaben means something like no data available or no information or no entries. I hope I need not add keine Angaben to my email address, so they could identify me better next time. This is a sign. Roll with it. Use it as a pseudonym. Start

Re: [ANN] GetInLine, Part III

2005-01-15 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Chipp Walters wrote: One cosmetic issue I can't figure out: when doing a screencapture here on WinXP, the desktop icons flash as if the desktop is being redrawn. Any way to avoid this phenomenon? Trevor, are you sure you're using the latest Rev engine? As I recall, the flashing

Re: [ANN] GetInLine, Now More In Line

2005-01-15 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Scott, An update to the previous GetInLine stack has been posted. For those who missed it, this is an attempt at a more intuitive method for drag-and-drop repositioning of lines within list fields. This post contains tightened up code and performance, constrained dragging, no more messing

Re: enjoying fireworks

2005-01-15 Thread Meitnik
In a message dated 1/15/05 1:43:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since I do little photo retouching but a LOT of UI stuff, I find Macromedia Fireworks to be infinitely more productive for me. -- Richard, I agree with you. :-) andrew ___

Re: Trouble with graphics display in OS X

2005-01-15 Thread James Hurley
Bear with me on this one. I need to know whether my problem with OS X lies in my computer graphics card or with RR. If the problem is with my computer, I can deal with it, but if the problem lies with the implementation of RR in OS X, I have problem. Try this simple experiment in OS X. Run

Re: MacWorld part 2

2005-01-15 Thread James Richards
There is a very real sense in which words can be viewed as icons, but complex icons which have certain possibilities of interrelationship built into them. This is probably hard to simulate in iconic programming Regards James On 14 Jan, 2005, 2005 18:07:59 -0800, Richard Gaskin wrote: Before

Prograph (was Re: MacWorld part 2)

2005-01-15 Thread Dar Scott
On Jan 14, 2005, at 6:45 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: As some of you may know, I wrote one of two books published on Prograph before that product/company essentially went belly-up. (Hmmm. I hope I don't have the decidedly unhelpful effect on *all* the companies whose products I write books about. heh

Show pics?

2005-01-15 Thread Paul Salyers
I need the code to show a pics from start up. Here is the VB code I want to run in Rev. Private Sub Form_Load() 'When the form loads the following command kick into action file = Foto2Load.jpg 'Graphic I want to load in the form (Path to file)

Re: MacWorld part 2

2005-01-15 Thread Mark Talluto
On Jan 15, 2005, at 7:24 AM, James Richards wrote: There is a very real sense in which words can be viewed as icons, but complex icons which have certain possibilities of interrelationship built into them. This is probably hard to simulate in iconic programming I did a prototype of a

Re: Show pics?

2005-01-15 Thread Alex Tweedly
Paul Salyers wrote: I need the code to show a pics from start up. Here is the VB code I want to run in Rev. Private Sub Form_Load() 'When the form loads the following command kick into action file = Foto2Load.jpg 'Graphic I want to load in the

Re: [ANN] GetInLine, Now More In Line

2005-01-15 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Klaus Major wrote: go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/getinline.rev; the script could use something that will prevent the duplication of the clicked line when you simply click that line...? Know what i mean? This happens after the first succesful/not poofed

Re: [ANN] GetInLine, Now More In Line

2005-01-15 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005,Trevor DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 13, 2005, at 3:05 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: One cosmetic issue I can't figure out: when doing a screencapture here on WinXP, the desktop icons flash as if the desktop is being redrawn. Any way to avoid this phenomenon? I wonder

employee database tutorial

2005-01-15 Thread Bob Hartley
Hi All. I have rev 2.5 studio. In my express 2.2.1 I had an example file called employee database.rev Since upgrading I can't see this in 2.5. Is there anywhere I can download this to get tim=ps on proper scripting of a similar app? Cheers Bob -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked

Re: [ANN] GetInLine, Now More In Line

2005-01-15 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Wilhelm Sanke wrote: One cosmetic issue I can't figure out: when doing a screencapture here on WinXP, the desktop icons flash as if the desktop is being redrawn. Any way to avoid this phenomenon? I have got a stack here (Multiple Choice Tutorial; see my website) that uses

Re: Mac add-on for PCs [OT?]

2005-01-15 Thread Dan Shafer
I agree with Chipp about the memory footprint, but I'm not concerned about configuring the beast with a wireless keyboard/mouse from Apple. You can buy those goodies far less expensively from other manufacturers. A friend of mine called me yesterday and told me that he'd configured a new Mac

Re: Trouble with graphics display in OS X

2005-01-15 Thread Dan Shafer
I don't know whether it's RR or OS X, but I can confirm the behavior. It doesn't change even if I set my display to thousands rather than millions of colors. Dan On Jan 15, 2005, at 6:51 AM, James Hurley wrote: Bear with me on this one. I need to know whether my problem with OS X lies in my

Re: Prograph (was Re: MacWorld part 2)

2005-01-15 Thread Dan Shafer
I never saw the kind of buggy performance you describe here, Dar, but I do remember that the shift from simple Prograph to the far more complex set of class libraries in CPX caused a LOT of bugs and performance issues. Dan On Jan 15, 2005, at 8:22 AM, Dar Scott wrote: On Jan 14, 2005, at 6:45

Re: MacWorld part 2

2005-01-15 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hello There, Le 15 janv. 05, à 16:24, James Richards a écrit : On 14 Jan, 2005, 2005 18:07:59 -0800, Richard Gaskin wrote: Part of Appleton's motivation for creating SuperCard was his feeling that textual programming, such as scripting, offered much greater expressiveness. Seems us scripters don't

Re: [ANN] GetInLine, Now More In Line

2005-01-15 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Scott, Recently, Klaus Major wrote: go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/getinline.rev; the script could use something that will prevent the duplication of the clicked line when you simply click that line...? Know what i mean? This happens after the first succesful/not poofed

Re: MacWorld part 2

2005-01-15 Thread Klaus Major
Bon soir Pierre, Hello There, ... XTalk is still the onest development paradigm able to let us build a fourty different screens web app in less than 100 kb of code (PG backend management included)... and it's just why we are right in going head with Rev instead of any 10 years to old

Re: [ANN] GetInLine, Now More In Line

2005-01-15 Thread Klaus Major
Hi all, sorry for the typos! Hi Scott, Recently, Klaus Major wrote: ... Did you download the latest version? Yes, sure ;-) There was a hiccup in a previously posted version but it should be fixed now. But for my own scripting knowledge, I thought declaring the locals with empty values at the top

Re: MacWorld part 2

2005-01-15 Thread Hannu Kokko
Hi I used to develop relational datab ase applications apps for company internal use with something called Double Helix in the 80's. It was completely iconic stuff, you only wrote the names of the things, everything else was an icon. Stuff worked, could be quite complex. Maintenance was a bit of

Re: Prograph (was Re: MacWorld part 2)

2005-01-15 Thread Paul
Dear Dan and Dar: I just wanted to wrote in defense of Prograph CPX. I bought the Mac and Windows versions and have written successful apps in both. I have a business based on an app I wrote in Prograph CPX (Buzz-o-sonic, http://www.buzzmac.com). It was a great language and I too was sad to

Re: Trouble with graphics display in OS X

2005-01-15 Thread Scott Rossi
Try this simple experiment in OS X. Run the following handler: on mouseUP repeat 1000 add 1 to field 1 -- This is an empty field. end repeat end mouseUP In OS 9, I get a blur of numbers displayed in the field--this is fine and what I would expect. In OS X I get a discrete

Re: Trouble with graphics display in OS X

2005-01-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
James Hurley wrote: In OS 9, I get a blur of numbers displayed in the field--this is fine and what I would expect. In OS X I get a discrete sequence of 4 numbers displayed. This is the same kind of herky-jerky behavior I found with graphics display in OS X (but not in OS 9.) (As before,

Re: MacWorld part 2

2005-01-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
James Richards wrote: There is a very real sense in which words can be viewed as icons, but complex icons which have certain possibilities of interrelationship built into them. This is probably hard to simulate in iconic programming -- |

Re: Mac add-on for PCs [OT?]

2005-01-15 Thread Stephen Barncard
Aha! I 'get' what the new mac mini is about. it's about switching people from Wintel - encouraging them to move by making it easy - just plug in your familiar current screen and keyboard and this little box. Brilliant. Watch for PC mini attempts in about 18 months. The Japanese folks will love

Re: Trouble with graphics display in OS X

2005-01-15 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, James Hurley wrote: I need to know whether my problem with OS X lies in my computer graphics card or with RR. One other question James: are the OS9 and OSX systems you're comparing running on the same box or different boxes? Because another issue you *may* be running into *might*

Re: Prograph (was Re: MacWorld part 2)

2005-01-15 Thread Dar Scott
On Jan 15, 2005, at 12:18 PM, Paul wrote: I just wanted to wrote in defense of Prograph CPX. I bought the Mac and Windows versions and have written successful apps in both. On Windows? I guess I was too early. I bought Prograph CPX for $599 because I wanted to make double-clickable apps. It

Re: Mac add-on for PCs [OT?]

2005-01-15 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Stephen, ... My big question is: Will this device run HEADLESS? - no monitor or keyboard attached? Definitively yes! I read it today somewhere on the net... If so, we have a little mac home network file server! Cool! Cute isn't it?! :-) sqb Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Prograph (was Re: MacWorld part 2)

2005-01-15 Thread Paul
Hi Dar: Yes, I used Prograph on Windows. They did bring out new releases for the Mac which were an improvement. I didn't pay quite so much for CPX as I upgraded from the original version. Anyway, it's all history now. What sort of apps do you write in LabVIEW? Cheers, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: MacWorld part 2

2005-01-15 Thread Dan Shafer
Double Helix was a really nice tool. I used it a good bit as well. I think one of the reasons it worked better than lots of other graphical languages was its focus on database solutions. Dan On Jan 15, 2005, at 11:12 AM, Hannu Kokko wrote: Hi I used to develop relational datab ase applications

Re: [OT] Request for icon app

2005-01-15 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Interesting, I would not have thought to look at GraphicConverter to build the icons... I've used it to build icon images that I later loaded into Iconographer, but I hadn't tried exporting right from there to the icon files. GraphicConverter can

Re: MacWorld part 2

2005-01-15 Thread Roger . E . Eller
Mark, Was it AmigaVision? I used that allot to make slideshows of weddings with music, animation, and it could be recorded to videotape easily with the Amiga's built-in TV-out capability. AmigaVision had drag drop icons with programatic if-then structures and control capabilities. It was

Re: Show pics?

2005-01-15 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jan 15, 2005, at 12:19 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: Paul Salyers wrote: I need the code to show a pics from start up. Here is the VB code I want to run in Rev. Private Sub Form_Load() 'When the form loads the following command

Re: [ANN] GetInLine, Part III

2005-01-15 Thread Ken Ray
On 1/15/05 6:05 AM, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently, Chipp Walters wrote: One cosmetic issue I can't figure out: when doing a screencapture here on WinXP, the desktop icons flash as if the desktop is being redrawn. Any way to avoid this phenomenon? Trevor, are you sure

Re: [OT] Request for icon app

2005-01-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: GraphicConverter can indeed produce windows .ico files, and it can produce old-style 'finder icon files', which are OS9-style resource icons; however, it does not seem to have the ability to produce OS X icon files (yet). So create them in GraphicConverter then use

gestalt options

2005-01-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
I'm in the process of updating my Gestalt function (see the Gestalt stack in RevNet), which I use to automatically include a brief system profile in user reports. Currently the report includes the stuff shown below, things I've found useful thus far. What other functions or global properties

The Layer command

2005-01-15 Thread william griffin
Whats the story with this layer command? I have tabs in a group that look like this __ ____ |__\ |__\ |__\ With a slight bit overlap and I want the selected tab to appear topmost. But the command is not working. on mouseUp put

Re: Trouble with graphics display in OS X

2005-01-15 Thread James Hurley
James Hurley wrote: In OS 9, I get a blur of numbers displayed in the field--this is fine and what I would expect. In OS X I get a discrete sequence of 4 numbers displayed. This is the same kind of herky-jerky behavior I found with graphics display in OS X (but not in OS 9.) (As

Re: [OT] Request for icon app

2005-01-15 Thread Graham Samuel
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:29:07 -0800, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] made out a very interesting case for Macromedia Fireworks. It was endearing to read Fireworks is everything I had always wanted from SuperPaint I loved SuperPaint too, in my time, tho I don't think anyone had heard of

Re: Trouble with graphics display in OS X

2005-01-15 Thread James Hurley
P. S. to my earlier message. I found that I can speed this program considerably by eliminating all Lock and Unlock Screens. They are not really necessary in this example. A better example is: In the message box: go url http://home.infostations.net/jhurley/ControlTurtles.rev; In this example

Re: Prograph (was Re: MacWorld part 2)

2005-01-15 Thread Dar Scott
On Jan 15, 2005, at 1:43 PM, Paul wrote: Yes, I used Prograph on Windows. They did bring out new releases for the Mac which were an improvement. I didn't pay quite so much for CPX as I upgraded from the original version. Anyway, it's all history now. What sort of apps do you write in LabVIEW?

Re: MacWorld part 2

2005-01-15 Thread Pierre Sahores
I start to include/understand how a bundle of radish can sometimes contain the entire world. Jean Helium (painter... of bundles of radish but not only). Just a little correction to the first line of the previous post : please read 100 ko instead of 100 kb where needed. Gruss Gott, Klaus and

Fwd: MacWorld part 2

2005-01-15 Thread Pierre Sahores
Jean Hélion was, naturally, the One and not the Babelfished Helium. Sorry for that ! Début du message réexpédié : De: Pierre Sahores [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 16 janvier 2005 00:04:59 GMT+01:00 À: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Cc: Pierre Sahores [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet: Rép

Re: The Layer command

2005-01-15 Thread Ken Ray
On 1/15/05 3:58 PM, william griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats the story with this layer command? I have tabs in a group that look like this __ ____ |__\ |__\ |__\ With a slight bit overlap and I want the selected tab to appear

Re: The Layer command

2005-01-15 Thread Ken Ray
On 1/15/05 3:58 PM, william griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats the story with this layer command? I have tabs in a group that look like this __ ____ |__\ |__\ |__\ With a slight bit overlap and I want the selected tab to appear

Execute a program from Rev.

2005-01-15 Thread Paul Salyers
on mouseUp shell(Program.exe) end mouseUp I have a pics of our Program.exe program I want to execute it when I click the image. This shell programs and programs to be run will be in the same folder. I prefer not to have to use the full path, as some people might want to move to a different

Re: RunRev vs RealBasic (Richard Gaskin)

2005-01-15 Thread Thomas Gutzmann
Am 31.12.2004 um 05:30 schrieb Ken Ray: Personally I think on of the biggest advantages that Rev has over RB is that you can go from editing to running *immediately*; you don't need to compile and run. So for example, if you're working on a dialog box that would normally take you 5 mouse clicks

Re: MacWorld part 2

2005-01-15 Thread James Hurley
I was reading a review of the Mac Faire in the NY Times. Speaking of the Mac Mini: It's what Mac fans call aheadless Mac, and what Mr. Jobs call BYODKM--Bring Your Own Display, Keyboard and Mouse. Now who is Mr. Jobs, I thought to myself. NY Times; always first class. Jim

Re: Execute a program from Rev.

2005-01-15 Thread Ken Ray
On 1/15/05 5:18 PM, Paul Salyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on mouseUp shell(Program.exe) end mouseUp I have a pics of our Program.exe program I want to execute it when I click the image. This shell programs and programs to be run will be in the same folder. I prefer not to have

Re: RunRev vs RealBasic (Richard Gaskin)

2005-01-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
Thomas Gutzmann wrote: But there are cases where OOP is simply better, and then RB is the better choice, of course (better than Java, too). I have an application where I need a very fast and complicated graphic interface with a large number of objects. This I have written in RB; the rest of

Re: Execute a program from Rev.

2005-01-15 Thread Paul Salyers
At 05:31 PM 1/15/2005, you wrote: On 1/15/05 5:18 PM, Paul Salyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on mouseUp shell(Program.exe) end mouseUp I have a pics of our Program.exe program I want to execute it when I click the image. This shell programs and programs to be run will be in the same

Re: Prograph (was Re: MacWorld part 2)

2005-01-15 Thread Paul
I see. I am re-writing my Buzz-o-sonic program (frequency analyzer for measuring impulse-excited materials) in LabVIEW. I have not done much with RunRev yet - except a diary app I hope to release when I get the time. Are there any user lists like this for LabVIEW? This user list is one of the

Re: employee database tutorial

2005-01-15 Thread Mark Wieder
Bob- Saturday, January 15, 2005, 9:39:12 AM, you wrote: BH In my express 2.2.1 I had an example file called employee database.rev BH Since upgrading I can't see this in 2.5. Is there anywhere I can download BH this to get tim=ps on proper scripting of a similar app? ...well, there's a Contact

Re: RunRev vs RealBasic (Richard Gaskin)

2005-01-15 Thread Dan Shafer
On Jan 15, 2005, at 3:25 PM, Thomas Gutzmann wrote: I have an application where I need a very fast and complicated graphic interface with a large number of objects. This I have written in RB; the rest of the application is being written in Rev. All these single and largely independent windows

Re: Show pics?

2005-01-15 Thread Björnke von Gierke
On Jan 15 2005, at 17:53, Paul Salyers wrote: Oh, One more question. Would anyone be interested in a RenRev chat room that can be accessed with a win chat program or web site accessible? This chat room can have a search function for RunRev help if wanted. Paul Salyers PS1 - Senior Rep. [EMAIL

Re: Show pics?

2005-01-15 Thread Paul Salyers
At 07:41 PM 1/15/2005, you wrote: On Jan 15 2005, at 17:53, Paul Salyers wrote: Oh, One more question. Would anyone be interested in a RenRev chat room that can be accessed with a win chat program or web site accessible? This chat room can have a search function for RunRev help if wanted.

Re: Show pics?

2005-01-15 Thread Björnke von Gierke
On Jan 16 2005, at 03:11, Paul Salyers wrote: At 07:41 PM 1/15/2005, you wrote: On Jan 15 2005, at 17:53, Paul Salyers wrote: Oh, One more question. Would anyone be interested in a RenRev chat room that can be accessed with a win chat program or web site accessible? This chat room can have a

Re: Prograph (was Re: MacWorld part 2)

2005-01-15 Thread Dar Scott
On Jan 15, 2005, at 5:41 PM, Paul wrote: I see. I am re-writing my Buzz-o-sonic program (frequency analyzer for measuring impulse-excited materials) in LabVIEW. I have not done much with RunRev yet - except a diary app I hope to release when I get the time. Are there any user lists like this

Problem with open file command

2005-01-15 Thread Stgoldberg
I have been trying to get the open file command to work on my G5 mac, e.g. trying to open a .txt file in the same folder as the application, but nothing happens. Can anyone suggest what I might be doing wrong, and also what sort of files one should expect Revolution to be able to open with

Re: Problem with open file command

2005-01-15 Thread Ken Ray
On 1/15/05 11:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been trying to get the open file command to work on my G5 mac, e.g. trying to open a .txt file in the same folder as the application, but nothing happens. Can anyone suggest what I might be doing wrong, and also what

Re: MIDI volume control

2005-01-15 Thread curry
Unfortunately, there is no way to do it with mciSendString as far as I know. There should be--but there's not. You have to use shell or external. I made a helper app using BASIC, but the EXE size is not super tiny--it's maybe 300 or 400K. That works just fine, but a smaller one could be a little

Re: Mac add-on for PCs [OT?]

2005-01-15 Thread Bruce Robertson
I'm sure others can think of other neat scenarios for this tiny (2 in X 6.5 in X 6.5 in) box. Sitting here, surrounded by five Macs and a PC of varying ages and capabilities, I can't think of a single reason why I'd need one of those. But I *still* want one anyway. Please, somebody help me.