Hi Bill,
Do you have an Enteprise license? Encryption is a feature that comes
with Enterprise only.
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Yes. Sorry I forgot to mention that.
Bill
On Mar 17, 2009, at 12:58 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:
Hi Bill,
Do you have an Enteprise license? Encryption is a feature that comes
with Enterprise only.
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Hi Bill,
It appears that the SSL library is not included in the Linux version.
This is a bug.
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On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:07 AM, stephen barncard
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:
Congratulations. You found a bug. Please report it to the QC.
I don't think so. Whilst this may have worked in HC, the user manual quite
clearly states:
6.1.5 The Word Chunk
A word is a string of
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Judy Perry katheryn.swynf...@gmail.comwrote:
Ummm, geee... thanks Richmond.
Now we're never going to get scripted music sound channels, and when
somebody asks why, these links will be reposted as state's, er, company's
evidence.
;-)
I'd hate to say it,
Kay C Lan wrote:
I've been sitting back wondering why people want to play door bell jingles on
their computer ;-)
[Oh, Bad Luck; you thought Richmond was going to take that one on the
chin and then smile :) ]
Neither do I want to play door bell jingles (even if for the only
reason is that I
Hi Bill,
I think this might be the explanation:
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7149
I did come up with a workaround along with help from Jacques. I can't
remember if it would be workable in all situations, but it should work to
fix problems on Linux installations where you
Richmond Mathewson wrote:
Embedding music files in RunRev / MetaCard stacks comes at quite a hit,
both in terms of file size, and RAM requirements; the HyperCard method
would be considerably 'cheaper' in both of these respects.
MIDI, with QuickTime in a player object.
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Hi Richard,
Richmond Mathewson wrote:
Embedding music files in RunRev / MetaCard stacks comes at quite a
hit,
both in terms of file size, and RAM requirements; the HyperCard
method
would be considerably 'cheaper' in both of these respects.
MIDI, with QuickTime in a player object.
Yep!
I reckon that would make a nice article for the RevUp Newsletter,
small tools for big jobs.
Cheers,
Luis.
On 17 Mar 2009, at 01:22, Peter Brigham MD wrote:
The best reason in the world to build a tool is because you need
it. So I have been putting together a utility that I have been
On Mar 17, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Klaus Major wrote:
MIDI, with QuickTime in a player object.
Yep!
Alas, if we just could use internal/imported files within a player
object...
Well, I wasn't fully sure this would work, but it seems to (the first
two lines just clear out the previous midi
I usually have about 8 or 9 apps open when I'm working.
Probably about as many files open at that time.
I'm curious about how many apps the people on this list usually have
loaded during their work day.
Also, I work on a 17 Mac, no external monitor. What do you have for a
monitor setup?
Hi Colin,
On Mar 17, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Klaus Major wrote:
MIDI, with QuickTime in a player object.
Yep!
Alas, if we just could use internal/imported files within a player
object...
Well, I wasn't fully sure this would work, but it seems to (the
first two lines just clear out the
Well, the selCh problem comes because I mindlessly used a not-equals
character instead of . So on WIndows that won't work. Sorry, I am
fixing that.
The can't find handler re loadFonts is a mystery to me. The
loadfonts handler is is the stack script of the main stack, so I don't
know how
On Mar 17, 2009, at 10:59 AM, Klaus Major wrote:
This VERY old trick does not count as playing internal files in a
player object!
Sorry you're out :-D
I don't feel bad, having worked it all out for myself, without knowing
that it was an old trick! But what counts as an internal file? If
Hi Sims,
On this computer, 11 visible apps, a few invisible servers and
databases and lots of system processes. The visible apps have 5 files
open at the moment, but several have many windows open. How do you
count browser windows and e-mails in preparation?
I have 2 monitors set up for
Hi Colin,
On Mar 17, 2009, at 10:59 AM, Klaus Major wrote:
This VERY old trick does not count as playing internal files in a
player object!
Sorry you're out :-D
I don't feel bad, having worked it all out for myself, without
knowing that it was an old trick!
Sorry, did not mean to
On Mar 17, 2009, at 10:54 AM, Jim Sims wrote:
I'm curious about how many apps the people on this list usually have
loaded during their work day.
Also, I work on a 17 Mac, no external monitor. What do you have for
a monitor setup?
Things vary tremendously, but on my 17 inch single
On Mar 17, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Klaus Major wrote:
If I can get those to play, would that count as a new trick?
YOU BET! :-D
The those I was referring to would have been external files that are
in the standalone bundle. I'm not sure how a file player can play
media if you're not allowed
Bonju Sims,
I usually have open:
Firefox
Safari
Revolution
Interarchy
Terminal
TextMate
Mail
So this gets us at least 7 that are always open, even when I am not
using. I launch Rev on startup even when I am not coding so that the
engine can flex it's bytes a little and stay healthy!
Cheers
Hi Colin,
On Mar 17, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Klaus Major wrote:
If I can get those to play, would that count as a new trick?
YOU BET! :-D
The those I was referring to would have been external files that
are in the standalone bundle.
I'm not sure how a file player can play media if you're not
Usually 10 to 14 apps as I do web development and programming. Rev is
always open since I am spending part of every week adding to a client
app. As part of web development, I use BBEdit and its very powerful
file management tools, so there will be 30-50 files open in 4 windows.
Using a
Colin Holgate wroteL
The those I was referring to would have been external files that are
in the standalone bundle. I'm not sure how a file player can play
media if you're not allowed to make the media be a file as part of the
solution.
FWIW, I thought yours was a darn clever solution.
Jim Sims wrote:
I usually have about 8 or 9 apps open when I'm working.
Probably about as many files open at that time.
I'm curious about how many apps the people on this list usually have
loaded during their work day.
My typical setup:
- MetaCard
- Thunderbird
- Firefox
- Fireworks
-
I can have up to 15 apps open at a time, although some are utilitarian
in nature. I rarely have lots of documents open in one app though. I
try to stay on task if I can.
I have a Macbook Pro with dual monitors (including the one on the
Macbook Pro). I have 4 gigs of RAM (very important for
On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Also, I work on a 17 Mac, no external monitor. What do you have
for a monitor setup?
Same here: 17 MBP.
Ken finds it curious that I still work on a single monitor, but with
this nifty accessory the world is my office:
Klaus Major wrote:
On the other hand, many folks don't like to put media on the users
harddisk
The great thing about media files (sound, movies) once they have
been imported into a RuvRev stack is that they are hard to
steal for other purposes. The only problem is that, as has been
pointed
Hi,
I have about 11 -15 apps running under windows at the same time.
But the follwing apps are always up under normal circumstances
Revolution
Ultraedit
VmWare Workstation
Email-Client
Mozilla / IE7
PasswordSafe
DirectAccess
MacroScheduler
WsFTP
TerminalServerClient
I am working with one 20 and
On Mar 17, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
What's the downside of playing it as a file?
Latency.
The MIDI file is already playing before I notice that the file dialog
has gone away, so that's fairly fast. What kind of thing might you
want to do that would show latency?
My main rig is a G4 'Wind Tunnel' Mac; dual processor, 2 Gigs RAM.
4 Hard disks partitioned in various ways totalling 1370 GB.
One Super-Drive, One Combo-Drive.
Belkin Nostromo n52, Apple Keyboard, Logitech 3 button optical mouse.
No Name external speakers bought in Sharjah. USB personal fan.
Re: MIDI as external file...
Just thinking...
How about storing MIDI data as a custom property in a substack?
Kurt
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Hello,
From my previous message (03/13/2009)
Pmd and MIDI Builder have a common disadvantage : we cannot Play
live because of principle : create a MIDI file witch is play by QT
player, resulting in a latency of at least 1/5 seconds at the start
of the file...
René from Paris
Le 17 mars
Hi from Paris,
Close to a dozen apps at the same time, including
GraphicConverter, iTunes, HPPrecision ScanPro, Safari,
Skype, Word, MSN, Parallels, SnapnDrag, EazyDraw, EyeTV.
I always close Revolution and reload it, 'cos I'm fed
up with the message stack with this name already loaded -
what do
On Windows XP, AcerTravelmate 2300, recently installed more RAM (2GB),
works like lightning now ;-). Two monitors (both 15'', 1024x768), 1 high
speed firewire hard drive (for videorecording), 2 more external drives
(one for backups). Among relevant processes Apache 2, MySQL, antivirus
(Avira)
Jim,
I must say that evernote is wonderful! I use it too! :D
Andre
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Jim Ault jimaultw...@yahoo.com wrote:
Usually 10 to 14 apps as I do web development and programming. Rev is
always open since I am spending part of every week adding to a client app.
As
On Mar 17, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Kurt Kaufman wrote:
Just thinking...
How about storing MIDI data as a custom property in a substack?
I don't know about storing custom properties, but whatever that is,
would it have any advantage over storing the data in a field?
Yeah, so how many notebooks do *you* have?
On Mar 17, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:
Jim,
I must say that evernote is wonderful! I use it too! :D
Andre
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I almost never have more than three or four apps open at once, and then
almost always each one on separate virtual desktops. This is on a 19 inch
screen.
I usually have Firefox permanently open on one desktop and then
I have a data entry field with a bunch of scripts in it that do things like
search through a set of data by watching each key stroke. This is fine must
of the time but occasionally I just want to quickly put some data in it that
is not evaluated. Presently I use contents of the inspector to do
How about storing MIDI data as a custom property in a substack?
I don't know about storing custom properties, but whatever that is,
would it have any advantage over storing the data in a field?
From the Rev User Guide:
A custom property is a property that you define. You can create as
Hi Willam,
Something like this?
local lSwitch
on rawkeyDown
if the shiftKey is down and the optionkey is down and the
environment contains dev then
put (lSwitch is false) into lSwitch // switch on-off
exit rawKeyDown
else if lSwitch is false and the environemtn contains dev
On Mar 17, 2009, at 4:05 PM, Kurt Kaufman wrote:
I do believe that since MIDI files contain binary data, the Rev
field object is not the proper type of container.
MIDI can contain any binary value, but the technique does work, the
saved out MIDI file plays fine. So presumably fields cope
How about storing MIDI data as a custom property in a substack?
Even if this is done, you still need to copy the binary data contained
in the custom property to a temporary MIDI file (invisible if
desired), to which the the player's filename is assigned. According
to the 3.0 User Guide,
I had looked at an older stack developed with engine 2.6.1 (the fastest
engine so far when it comes to image processing) where I had
experimented using the paint tools to create color gradient shapes. My
idea was to integrate worthwhile scripts from there into my upcoming
Gradientology stack.
MIDI can contain any binary value, but the technique does work, the
saved out MIDI file plays fine. So presumably fields cope with null
values just like variables do.
Is there a chance that the field-stored data might run into trouble if
you, say, saved the data on a Mac and reopened it on a
According
to the 3.0 User Guide, audio/video QT players must always reference a
discreet file.
Actually, even if it's not so discreet, it still has to be discrete!
:-)
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Colin Holgate wrote:
I don't know about storing custom properties, but whatever that is,
would it have any advantage over storing the data in a field?
Yes, a lot of advantages. One is speed, another is the ability to store
any kind of data including binary. Once you start using custom
Thanks. I will try something like that. I didn't know or about the
environment dev and standalone checks -- that will help.
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Here's a simple approach - it assumes that your don't evaluate button
is a checkbox or other similar one whose hilited state is changed by
clicking it:
-- script of field
on doThis
if the hilite of btn don't evaluate = true then exit doThis
-- followed my normal 'doThis' code
end doThis
on
...Custom
properties can store whole files or applications, images, arrays,
SSL-encoded data, fonts, entire databases, almost anything you can
think of
But we still need to create an actual file to be referenced by the QT
player, right?
We cannot, for instance:
set the filename of
Hi William,
There are probably a half dozen ways or more do this from putting two
different sets of scripts in custom properties or another place and toggling
by using *set the script of ... to* on pressing a keystroke combination,
to several other ways.
But, if I were doing it, and so that
Colin Holgate wrote:
Is there a limit to how much data can be in a custom property? Using
afield worked fine for the 40kbyte .MID files I tried.
There is no limit on custom property storage size except the amount of
room you have on disk for the file increase. Fields have no practical
Kurt Kaufman wrote:
...Custom
properties can store whole files or applications, images, arrays,
SSL-encoded data, fonts, entire databases, almost anything you can
think of
But we still need to create an actual file to be referenced by the QT
player, right?
We cannot, for instance:
set
On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:26 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Yes, a lot of advantages. One is speed, another is the ability to
store any kind of data including binary. Once you start using custom
properties you won't use fields any more for anything but visible
text. Accessing a custom property is
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd hate to say it, but you're absolutely right.
I've been sitting back wondering why people want to play door bell jingles
on their computer ;-)
Well, I want to play door bell jingles because it would be useful in
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Richard Gaskin
ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote:
So if not for music, then what is the anticipated usage for such an
external?
Game development?
And as for the tinniness (or whatever) quality of scripted music, (a) I
suspect children would not likely notice
Colin Holgate wrote:
On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:26 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
Yes, a lot of advantages. One is speed, another is the ability to
store any kind of data including binary. Once you start using custom
properties you won't use fields any more for anything but visible
text. Accessing a
iMac, 20 screen at work, 24 screen at home.
Safari (really enjoying playing with Safari 4 beta)
Mail
iCal
TextWrangler
Preview
Stickies
LaunchBar
Pic-a-POD
ScreenShare (a utility I wrote to make LAN screen sharing more easily
accessible)
Revolution comes goes as I find it more convenient to
We have all had problems when clicking a link to a rev file opens the
file in the browser window instead of downloading it. Here is a link
to an article indicating how to use php to force a link to be a
download link:
http://webdesign.about.com/od/php/ht/force_download.htm
The example uses a pdf
Hi Sarah,
I have simply added a mime type on my server. I use application/x-
revolution. Your link is useful though, especially in case of
downloadable but on-line generated data.
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On Mar 17, 2009, at 6:41 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
It isn't really. Fields are probably the most inefficient place to
store data that you need to access a lot.
For what I was trying, playing a whole tune, I would only need the
data once. Did you try my script? Does it not work fast
The issue I think was PUTTING something into a field, not GETTING the
contents of a field.
Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Logos Management
Calvary Chapel CM
On Mar 17, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:
On Mar 17, 2009, at 6:41 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
It isn't really. Fields are probably
Also you are getting ALL the properties of an object, and not the
single property that one field of data would represent.
Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Logos Management
Calvary Chapel CM
On Mar 17, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Colin Holgate wrote:
On Mar 17, 2009, at 6:41 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
It
On Mar 17, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
The issue I think was PUTTING something into a field, not GETTING
the contents of a field.
Yes, setting customproperties is very fast, and putting text into a
field is a lot slower (about a 1000 times slower than getting the
text). For the
Colin Holgate wrote:
For what I was trying, playing a whole tune, I would only need the data
once. Did you try my script? Does it not work fast for you too?
Oh yes, for single-use access a field is plenty fast enough.
As for fields being slower than customproperties, it seems that may not
Hi Colin.
Your test is wrong on several levels. I ran this script:
ON mouseUp
put abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1234567890 into theValue
put the ticks into StartFieldTime
REPEAT FOR 1
put theValue into field TestField
get field TestField
END repeat
put the
Whoops! Bad math. 175 times faster.
Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Logos Management
Calvary Chapel CM
On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:05 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
I got 350,2 as a result. That is, setting and getting a property is
exactly 125 times faster than putting and getting the samve value in a
field.
Colin Holgate wrote:
The figures I got were 198 and 325 ticks. If I was arguing that fields
was a bit faster, then 198 to 325 would prove that. But note that the
routine gets the text from the field a million times, and only gets the
customproperties 100,000 times. You can try the
On Mar 17, 2009, at 8:05 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
3. Your first repeat loop was one million whereas the second repeat
loop was One Hundered Thousand. Not sure why the disparity there...
Because when I tried a million for the customproperties I thought I
was going to have to restart my
PLUS you have the added effect that a person (a) doesn't need to rely on
QuickTime for delivery, which can be iffy on Windows (I've personally
encountered difficulties getting permission to install anything in a Windows
environment, even 6 mo. old Microsoft software for which we have a
license!),
I've created a bug report #7814 for this.
Bill Vlahos
On Mar 17, 2009, at 1:17 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:
Hi Bill,
It appears that the SSL library is not included in the Linux
version. This is a bug.
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On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com
wrote:
While referring to HC's notation as door bell jingles may sound derisive,
these days when people are accustomed to richer sound design, it's not an
entirely unfair characterization to the modern ear.
Nice
On Mar 17, 2009, at 3:31 PM, william humphrey wrote:
I was just wondering if there was a quicker way to do that.
Once 3.5 is available you will be able to easily do this by toggling
the parent script (behavior) of the field between empty and the a
button that has the script that does the
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