Re: [Neo4j] Graph visualization in the web admin tool

2011-04-04 Thread Rick Otten
Another javascript based tool, which is very new, is D3 (Data Driven Documents). D3 is built by the same guys who came up with Protovis a couple of years ago. [ http://vis.stanford.edu/protovis/ ] Protovis was much more limited in terms of flexible data inputs and scalability to large data

Re: [Neo4j] Graph visualization in the web admin tool

2011-04-04 Thread Rick Bullotta
] On Behalf Of Rick Otten Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 10:31 AM To: Neo4j user discussions Subject: Re: [Neo4j] Graph visualization in the web admin tool Another javascript based tool, which is very new, is D3 (Data Driven Documents). D3 is built by the same guys who came up with Protovis

Re: [Neo4j] Graph visualization in the web admin tool

2011-04-04 Thread Rick Otten
discussions Subject: Re: [Neo4j] Graph visualization in the web admin tool Another javascript based tool, which is very new, is D3 (Data Driven Documents). D3 is built by the same guys who came up with Protovis a couple of years ago. [ http://vis.stanford.edu/protovis/ ] Protovis was much

Re: [Neo4j] Graph visualization in the web admin tool

2011-03-30 Thread Jacob Hansson
We opted to change from graphdracula to arbor.js though (today, actually), because the dracula lib was buggy. My initial reaction to arbor.js is very positive, although it wasn't quite as straight-forward as dracula to use. I'd recommend downloading arbor.js and tweaking their example apps to get

Re: [Neo4j] Graph visualization in the web admin tool

2011-03-30 Thread Clement Honore
Thanks for the update. For my part, I think I'll give a try to Javascript Infovis Toolkit (http://thejit.org). I think you should take a look at it. The API seems very complete and the project is well documented (and activ). The objects are very customizable, edge should be oriented or not, you

[Neo4j] Graph visualization in the web admin tool

2011-03-28 Thread Clement Honore
Hi! Since the 1.0 M5 release, it's possible to get a visual representation of the graph within the web administration tool. I've almost the same kind of representation to do in a web application and I wonder which library did you use. Is it something referenced on this page or something

Re: [Neo4j] Graph visualization in the web admin tool

2011-03-28 Thread Peter Neubauer
Clement, the current iteration is building on http://www.graphdracula.net/ which is built on top of RaphaelJS I think. There are many others, look at http://wiki.neo4j.org/content/Visualization_options_for_graphs# and pick your choice. Let us know your experiences and feel free to contribute to

Re: [Neo4j] Graph visualization in the web admin tool

2011-03-28 Thread Clement Honore
Thanks for your answer Peter. I will take a look at dracula. I've already check this link http://wiki.neo4j.org/content/Visualization_options_for_graphs# (this is the on this page on my first post but I forget the link... ^^) and there is so many solutions that I don't know which to choose...

Re: [Neo4j] Graph visualization

2010-10-12 Thread Andreas Kollegger
That would be super cool. 3D could be beautiful, and possibly allow more interesting visualizations of a graph. In addition to an overview of the scene, it would be fun to play with 1st person and 3rd person views of the current node. What would be an easy proof-of-concept? /Andreas On Oct

Re: [Neo4j] Graph visualization

2010-10-12 Thread Christopher Schmidt
I think that the most tricky thing will be the algorithm, that places the nodes and associations in a 3D space. Christopher Am 2010 10 12 11:08 schrieb Andreas Kollegger andreas.kolleg...@neotechnology.com: That would be super cool. 3D could be beautiful, and possibly allow more interesting

Re: [Neo4j] Graph visualization

2010-10-12 Thread Andreas Kollegger
Googling around for force directed layout java reveals Graphael, which might be an option -- http://graphael.cs.arizona.edu/ On Oct 12, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Alex Averbuch wrote: Hey, igraph already supports 3D layouts and makes the vertex coordinates programmatically accessible. Maybe Jung or

Re: [Neo4j] Graph visualization

2010-10-12 Thread Andreas Kollegger
Or possibly linloglayout -- http://code.google.com/p/linloglayout/ Now that I'm thinking about this, visualization comes up so often that perhaps we could/should start a labs project for the java algorithm bits. On Oct 12, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Alex Averbuch wrote: Hey, igraph already supports

Re: [Neo4j] Graph visualization

2010-10-12 Thread Christopher Schmidt
Great. Seems that this in general has something to do with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force-based_algorithms_(graph_drawing) Check out these examples: http://code.google.com/p/webglsamples/ working with dev version of Chrome. Flying through a 3D graph would be really fancy :) Am 2010 10 12

Re: [Neo4j] Graph visualization

2010-10-12 Thread Keiichiro Ono
Hi. It's not a web app, but we built a prototype of 3D graph visualizer before: http://d.hatena.ne.jp/keiono/20081122/1227423548 However, the problem is it is very difficult to create an intuitive and easy to use user interface to browse a 3D space. Also, it is a bit vague what the significant

Re: [Neo4j] Graph visualization

2010-10-12 Thread Keiichiro Ono
Hi. Except small and sparse graph, 3D force-directed/spring model automatic layouts creates big hairball and it is very hard to browse. I've tried igraph and it creates nice 3D visualizations, but in many cases, our users (mostly scientists) say, it's cool...but what's the point? Does it give us

Re: [Neo4j] Graph visualization

2010-10-12 Thread Christopher Schmidt
Mathieu, I saw your screenshots - awesome. Do you have any experience with HTML5/WebGL? The advantage would be that the model could be completely created and rendered in a Browser (simply using the REST interface). This is, of course, heavy JavaScript programming :) Christopher On Tuesday,

Re: [Neo4j] Graph visualization

2010-10-12 Thread Rick Otten
The first thing that comes to mind as a possibly useful 3D graph visualization is to lay the graph on a (non-planar) surface, rather than just in free space. Ie, over some sort of topography. The topography could represent a geographical landscape of mountains, hills, canyons, and valleys...

Re: [Neo4j] Graph visualization

2010-10-12 Thread Keiichiro Ono
Hi Christopher. My point is, 3D graph visualization is worth trying (because it's cool :-) ), but still an open question even for researchers in data visualization field. Although this is a hard problem, but I've already got some use cases. In general, graph database users wants visualization

Re: [Neo4j] Graph visualization

2010-10-11 Thread Andrew Andkjar
I have not seen one in my Internet travels, however I have some experience with OpenGL ES 2.0 (the spec. WebGL implements IIRC) and the Neo4j REST interface. I would be happy to help build this thing. 'AA On Oct 11, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Christopher Schmidt fakod...@googlemail.com wrote: