I think the flaw in my analogy is that nobody will starve if they choose
not to eat at the Struts shelter :-)
Steve
Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
Steve Raeburn wrote:
Let me try another analogy. Let's say you go down to volunteer at a
homeless shelter. You serve a few meals and wipe a few tables a
Here is what it said, Brae Sternvue, in case you forgot:
Subject: [VOTE] Steve Raeburn as a Struts Committer
After that there were some +1s, etc., and you were duly inducted. Now, that
"VOTE" is starting to look like an election. We could suppose you were not
elected to anything but just electe
The analogy is so wrong, and so self-serving. You are batting 1000. The
analogy is as if you volunteered and then, due to the fact that you were
cute and promised to behave the way they wanted, the board of directors
elected you to the head of the finance committee, which you accepted. Now
are y
Gerald, did you read this citation? Here is what it says, among other
things.
All MVC frameworks basically operate within the same 5 phases:
1. *Decode* Interpreting state/parameters passed from the client
2. *Validate* This involves validating the information decoded and
possibly autho
Sorry, Steve, they are elected. And, as such, they have an official
position: the position is called "committer". As they say, "I couldn't
spell, but now I are one". Remember, you are one: elected and having the
official title and power. So you all are elected officials so far as I can
see.
Bu
Steve Raeburn wrote:
Let me try another analogy. Let's say you go down to volunteer at a
homeless shelter. You serve a few meals and wipe a few tables a couple
of times a month. Do you become bound by any responsibility other than
to show up and help? Do you become responsible for solving the h
Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
That's certainly one interpretation. For me, the responsibility comes
with the position by default.
...
What responsibilities do I have to my elected officials?
This might be getting to the heart of why we see the responsibilities
differently. The committers are not e
Steve Raeburn wrote:
Some people seem to look at Shale being part of the Struts project as a
sign that one person controls the project and always gets his own way.
In fact, that is the complete opposite of the truth. That Shale is now a
Struts sub-project was a result of a disagreement between
On 3/17/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think one mark of a committer and PMC member is that we don't have
> those type of passions. There are three of four of those passionate
> types on this thread. But none of them are committers.
Maybe that is an indication of how much of a clos
Dave Newton wrote:
Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
If someone says to you "the sky is purple", and totally believes it
themselves, but you believe it isn't true yet you say nothing, aren't you
on an intellectual level lying?
No, you're just not saying anything.
Maybe I watched too many Star Trek:
Michael,
You have really got to learn to read. Anyway, here's another idea
that'll put you in a tizzy
http://weblogs.java.net/blog/jhook/archive/2006/03/the_new_servlet_1.html
Steve
Dakota Jack wrote:
Good god, Steve. You think that the very idea that a JSF
implementation could become Stru
Good god, Steve. You think that the very idea that a JSF
implementation could become Struts 2.0 is not a huge proof that
everything you just said is not goofy? Maybe we could suggest that
Java become C?
On 3/17/06, Steve Raeburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
> > I was *go
I wonder, Ted, how it sounds to you when someone else says it too?
On 3/17/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/17/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > the simple fact is that people in the community look to the committers as
> > subject matter experts, and if yo
I thought Raeburn was Canadian, rather than American, and so would not
think legal liability and personal responsibility were the same thing.
I like Ted's theory better: "I'm Ted, you aren't: stop complainin'".
Actually, I like you all but this is sure a funny list.
On 3/17/06, Steve Raeburn <[
Steve Raeburn wrote:
Rather than people volunteering to be community leaders, I think you are
trying to *give* people leadership responsibility, which I don't think
is fair -- unless there is a large cheque attached ;-)
That's certainly one interpretation. For me, the responsibility comes
wi
Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
I was *going* to say that the difference is that when the project
started it was me and me alone, and that isn't the case any more.
There are two other committers, and we have project bylaws that
effectively gives them the ability to do things even if I 100%
disagree.
Leon Rosenberg wrote:
Hey Frank,
even I agree with you most of the time (not meaning this thread, but
more in general) I will play devil's advocate a bit.
Do you remember how I came to you some time ago and said, hey cool
project you have, let me contribute my struts extensions to your
project.
Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
> If someone says to you "the sky is purple", and totally believes it
> themselves, but you believe it isn't true yet you say nothing, aren't you
> on an intellectual level lying?
No, you're just not saying anything.
Being agnostic-tending-towards-atheistic if I go to a
Hey Frank,
even I agree with you most of the time (not meaning this thread, but
more in general) I will play devil's advocate a bit.
Do you remember how I came to you some time ago and said, hey cool
project you have, let me contribute my struts extensions to your
project.
What was your answer the
Thanks very much Frank... your answer is very helpful...
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Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: Applet and Struts
Yes you can... it will certainly be more work on your part, but yes. In
On 3/17/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> the simple fact is that people in the community look to the committers as
> subject matter experts, and if you don't understand that, then again, you
> are really quite blind. And if you don't think that infers a certain
> degree of respon
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The requested URL /download/first-ejb3-ant-tutorial-en.pdf was not
found on this server.
however, I don't have a clear understanding why should someone need an
ejb3.0 struts tutorial? It's like offering a tutorial on driving and
shopping. If you are able to do both of the actions standa
I guess I should have put some tags in :-) No, Ajax is cool.
Possibly over-hyped and I have doubts about maintainability and
accessibility, but very cool.
Rather than people volunteering to be community leaders, I think you are
trying to *give* people leadership responsibility, which I don't
Yes you can... it will certainly be more work on your part, but yes. In
the end, the "calls" made to Struts Actions are just HTTP GETs or POSTs.
You can fire these yourself from an applet. You can construct a query
string and append it to the URL when doing GETs, or you can populate an
HTTP requ
On Fri, March 17, 2006 2:25 pm, Dave Newton said:
>> Truth is nothing but a feeling that something is true. Therefore, not
>> saying how you feel is tantamount to a lie IMO.
>>
>
> Not at all... Lying implies an intent to deceive. Lying would be saying
> that you believed something that you didn't
Hi everybody:
Is it possible to use a java applet with struts? If I have menu in the web
application that is an applet, how can I call a struts action from this apple
passing the correct parameters to it?
Thanks very much,
Yariel.
in strutsconfig.xml the form bean attribute has
Prepare jsp action
Form1.set("newBalance", "10");
In jsp I have
currencySymbol="" var="newBal"/>
Validator.xml has
The Dispatch action has
DynaValidatorForm frm = (DynaValidatorForm)form;
ActionMessages messa
On Fri, March 17, 2006 2:23 pm, Steve Raeburn said:
> Frank, I don't think Java Web Parts should provide support for Ajax.
> After all, this is *Java* Web Parts and Ajax has nothing to do with
> Java. Anyway, Ajax is just a fad and I don't like it. If you want to do
> Ajax, you should split it off
Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
> It is difficult telling unpleasent things to power.
I've always taken perverse pleasure in it, myself, but I'm generally
crabby and irritable :D
> Truth is nothing but a feeling that something is true. Therefore, not
> saying how you feel is tantamount to a lie IMO.
>
Frank, I don't think Java Web Parts should provide support for Ajax.
After all, this is *Java* Web Parts and Ajax has nothing to do with
Java. Anyway, Ajax is just a fad and I don't like it. If you want to do
Ajax, you should split it off into a separate project.
Give me commit rights and I'll
> Change the DTD declaration at the top of your
> struts-config.xml to the 1.2 version. Sorry got to run.
Argghh!! I didn't see the parsing error message that landed on the app
log, not the server console. I had put in:
Putting an underscore between "message" and "resources" instead of a
hyphe
Simon, I think you've nicely illustrated the problem. Rather than
interpret what people have said as their honest,educated opinion,
certain people choose to interpret it as bullshit. Some people can live
in a world that has many "right" answers, others see only in black and
white.
The irony h
See intermixed.
On 3/17/06, Marcio E Miranda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This may be just a JSF question, but Shale may somehow aid in the
> solution, so here it goes:
>
>
>
> -- Web App
>
>
>
> Let's say that we have several instances of the following components in
> a view:
>
>
>
> Component
As one who appreciates Struts very much, I would like to thank the
team of committers for their work and dedication.
I would also like to thank the rest of the mailing list for being
willing to voice concerns and call out bullshit ("spin" if you don't
like the word bullshit). This is an important
> Change the DTD declaration at the top of your
> struts-config.xml to the 1.2 version. Sorry got to run.
Did that. Got the same error message. Nothing makes the slightest
difference.
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Change the DTD declaration at the top of your struts-config.xml to the 1.2
version. Sorry got to run.
Niall
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> -Original Message-
> From: Niall Pemberton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC
> -Original Message-
> From: Niall Pemberton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 11:34 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Struts error handling
>
>
> On 3/17/06, Slattery, Tim - BLS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Do you have message resources confi
Ted, Craig and everyone else,
Thanks so much for your dedication and support to these projects. The
advice I've received on this list has been a life-saver and has helped
me immensely in my career. Your contributions are greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
The silent majority
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Hello,
I have just finished a EJB 3 - Struts tutorial and put it on my
website. It is available for free as HTML and PDF at
http://www.laliluna.de/EJB-3-tutorials.html
As far as I remember, I have not yet announced tutorials in this
mailing list. The smart-questions site and your mailing list info
On Fri, March 17, 2006 8:12 am, Ted Husted said:
> I think one mark of a committer and PMC member is that we don't have
> those type of passions. There are three of four of those passionate
> types on this thread. But none of them are committers. And, out of the
> thousands of people who subscribe
On 3/17/06, Slattery, Tim - BLS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Do you have message resources configured in your struts-config.xml?
> >
> >
>
> Never used that tag before. I put it in, no difference.
Well you need to use it - looks like thats where your problem is -
can't find the message resource
request.getParameterMap
On 3/17/06, Sony Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Friends,
>
> I would like to have some guidance to solve my problem. I have a struts
> application. In one of the JSP's I have to display more than 50 editable
> text fields. So when I submit I don't want to submit the
So the "committers" are these stoic types who have nothing to do with
anything evil, nasty, or wrong in Struts. None "committers" are passionate
oafs who do not understand squat. I think the people in charge should take
responsibility for the situation. You don't see the "situation" as usual.
"
> Do you have message resources configured in your struts-config.xml?
>
>
Never used that tag before. I put it in, no difference.
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Nope, I just loaded that up and it worked for me. Using IE... ah, wait,
technicallly I'm using Maxthon, latest version. No, wait, just tried it
in IE6 (all latest patches, etc) and it worked there too. However, I
noticed I got an alert bar about active content, and I had to enable it
first. May
This may be just a JSF question, but Shale may somehow aid in the
solution, so here it goes:
-- Web App
Let's say that we have several instances of the following components in
a view:
Component A (Ca) is backed by bean A (Ba)
Component B (Cb) is backed by bean B (Bb)
Component
On 3/17/06, Slattery, Tim - BLS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The "errors" tag doesn't have a "message" attribute. I tried this:
> >
> > Sorry yes, getting mixed up with .
> >
> > So are you using name="org.apache.struts.action.MESSAGE" on
> > your tag then? That would cause the same.
>
> No "n
> So are you using name="org.apache.struts.action.MESSAGE" on
> your tag then? That would cause the same.
Just tried it with the "messages" loop using
name="org.apache.struts.action.ERROR"
SAME MESSAGE
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> > The "errors" tag doesn't have a "message" attribute. I tried this:
>
> Sorry yes, getting mixed up with .
>
> So are you using name="org.apache.struts.action.MESSAGE" on
> your tag then? That would cause the same.
No "name" attribute on the "errors" tag or the "messages" tag.
> Otherwise
THis is what I have in my jsp generated by Eclipse
<%@ page language="java"%>
<%@ taglib uri="http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/tags-bean";
prefix="bean"%>
<%@ taglib uri="http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/tags-html";
prefix="html"%>
JSP for HelloForm form
name :
password :
On 3/17/06, Slattery, Tim - BLS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thats very strange because the error your getting is when it
> > looks for errors under the "message" key - which happens when
> > message="true" is set - otherwise it should look under the
> > "error" key. What happens if you set > me
At 9:37 AM -0600 3/17/06, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You are referring to the tab lib files which are hosted on
jakarta.apache.org website.
When you are connected to the internet it get resolved by your web
server and the moment you unhook it
The problem starts. Best practice is to download the s
> Thats very strange because the error your getting is when it
> looks for errors under the "message" key - which happens when
> message="true" is set - otherwise it should look under the
> "error" key. What happens if you set message="false"/>?
>
> Also are you sure there are no other or
>
You are referring to the tab lib files which are hosted on
jakarta.apache.org website.
When you are connected to the internet it get resolved by your web
server and the moment you unhook it
The problem starts. Best practice is to download the same tab lib files
(Tld) and copy them in any of the fol
Thats very strange because the error your getting is when it looks for
errors under the "message" key - which happens when message="true" is
set - otherwise it should look under the "error" key. What happens if
you set ?
Also are you sure there are no other or
tags on yor page that could be caus
I removed shale-tiger.jar from the lib and it started fine.
I opened a bugzilla ticket for struts component shale.
Thanks for your rapid response.
Mark Shifman
Wendy Smoak wrote:
On 3/16/06, Mark Shifman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I also get this error:
2006-03-16 15:29:03 StandardContext[/
I don't see a way to do this with the standard validators - I think
you'll have to write your own.
Niall
On 3/17/06, Achim Willems <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a text field that depends on the value of a select box.
>
> Generally, the text field needs no validation (i.e. every text
> Do you have on your jsp? If
> so remove the message="true" and it should work.
Nope, just "".
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Can you prefix non-struts questions with [OT] in the subject please.
Niall
On 3/17/06, temp temp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In ant build.xml can I call a target from other ant build.xml
>
>
> For Example I have two ant build scripts build1.xml and build2.xml
>
> and default target f
Hi,
I have a text field that depends on the value of a select box.
Generally, the text field needs no validation (i.e. every text is
allowed), but when the select box has a special value (in my case it is
"text.birthday"), I want a validator to confirm that the text entered is
a date.
I thought
Do you have on your jsp? If so remove
the message="true" and it should work.
Niall
On 3/17/06, Slattery, Tim - BLS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm trying to convert a Struts app from version 1.1 to the latest
> production version, 1.2.8. The sticking point is reporting errors.
>
> ActionErrors
In ant build.xml can I call a target from other ant build.xml
For Example I have two ant build scripts build1.xml and build2.xml
and default target from build1.xml below
In the above target can I cal
OK I just tried this myself and got the same error "unexpected token"
error - looks like its a bug. Can you file a bug report against Struts
for this please:
http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/
Niall
On 3/16/06, coudot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> sorry for the mistake.
>
> my code is :
>
>
>
I'm trying to convert a Struts app from version 1.1 to the latest
production version, 1.2.8. The sticking point is reporting errors.
ActionErrors is now deprecated, soon to disappear, so I've converted
instances of ActionErrors to ActionMessages. The exception handling
code looks like this (ex is
Is it possible to display a JTable on the results page after a database
query is submitted?
Later,
Seamus
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For information, I use Struts 1.2.8.
I am not sure the indexed property will help me as all works fine except the
validwhen
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Ted Husted ha scritto:
blah blah blah...
-Ted.
Isn't it too much serious for a [FRIDAY] post? ;-)
P.S. I just wanted to be funny, you and Cedric Du Moulin are my myths
since I was at the university. Surprisingly I didn't know Mr McClanahan
before subscribing to this list...
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> The problem is not with JSF itself, but the way the Struts team has divided
> itself
> into competing camps. JSF and Struts are competing because their
> approaches are orthogonal; it doesn't make any sense to do both
> unless you are on a migration path.
...
> I think Struts does have a future,
On 3/17/06, Wojciech Ciesielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I didn't expect to trigger such an elaborate discussion ;-)
>
> > Personally, I still think that parsing the server.xml and the
> > context.xml or whatever config files the webserver is using is the
> > second best option.
>
> There is a
try removing tomcat cache that is in
{catalina_home}/work/catalina/localhost/{war file named folder}
hope this helps
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To: Struts User mailing List
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Hi
On 3/17/06, Meenakshi Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just for curiosity, I tested this code snippet in IE. However, it does
> nothing.
> Is there anything else that needs to be done.
well you need a table with the id="mytable"..
And you need to set the rowAdded variable, so in the AddRowActio
Just for curiosity, I tested this code snippet in IE. However, it does
nothing.
Is there anything else that needs to be done.
Thanks & Regards,
MS
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Cc:
See http://struts.apache.org//struts-doc-1.1/faqs/indexedprops.html.
Vijay Venkataraman
Sony Thomas wrote:
Hi Friends,
I would like to have some guidance to solve my problem. I have a
struts application. In one of the JSP's I have to display more than 50
editable text fields. So when I subm
Hi,
You can use a list-backed or a map-backed form.
I think there is an example here
http://struts.apache.org/struts-action/userGuide/building_controller.html
Gareth
Sony Thomas wrote:
Hi Friends,
I would like to have some guidance to solve my problem. I have a struts
application. In one of
Hi Friends,
I would like to have some guidance to solve my problem. I have a struts
application. In one of the JSP's I have to display more than 50 editable
text fields. So when I submit I don't want to submit the fields
separately and get the values in the Action by using getters of
ActionFo
Hi,
I have Tomcat 5.0.28 as the development version and the production version
is 5.5.
I created the war file using Net Beans IDE and somewhere it is hard coding
the complete tomcat path (in my case it is c:\tomcat-5.0.28\...) and while
deploying in the production version I get an error as 'c:\t
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