Re: OFF TOPIC: Introduction

2019-12-05 Thread Dale Newfield
On Dec 5, 2019, at 8:58 PM, Zahid Rahman wrote: > > I dislike the concept of Javadoc for same reason that documents are > generated from the code which flies in the face of best software > development practice as I understand it. Are well written javadoc on a Java Interface a reasonable

Re: OFF TOPIC: Introduction

2019-12-05 Thread Zahid Rahman
z.html > > best regards > m. > > > From: Dave Newton > Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 11:31 AM > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC: Introduction > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 9:43 AM Zahid Rahman wrote: > > > If the developer tests his own c

Re: OFF TOPIC: Introduction

2019-12-05 Thread Martin Gainty
-electrical-memory-that-foiled-a-murderers-alibi-in-court-20030120-gdg4uz.html best regards m. From: Dave Newton Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 11:31 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC: Introduction On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 9:43 AM Zahid Rahman

Re: OFF TOPIC: Introduction

2019-12-03 Thread Dave Newton
On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 1:43 PM Zahid Rahman wrote: > What more can I say (: > Nothing--I think most everybody already knows that sometimes people do dumb things. d..

Re: OFF TOPIC: Introduction

2019-12-03 Thread Zahid Rahman
"Phil the contractor" was the first of many in IT industry. I have a long list. This guy refers to multimillion real life blunders which I describe in detail as [lots of words]. What more can I say (: On Tue, 3 Dec 2019, 18:33 Dave Newton, wrote: > On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 1:14 PM Zahid

Re: OFF TOPIC: Introduction

2019-12-03 Thread Dave Newton
On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 1:14 PM Zahid Rahman wrote: > What developers do isn't testing. > > [Bottom up programmer]. > This is demonstrably incorrect (trivially). It doesn't even make sense. AFAIC the burden of proof is on you, because developers do valid testing all the time. (And yes, some

Re: OFF TOPIC: Introduction

2019-12-03 Thread Zahid Rahman
What developers do isn't testing. [Bottom up programmer]. On Tue, 3 Dec 2019, 18:10 Dave Newton, wrote: > On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 12:57 PM Zahid Rahman wrote: > > > We have a difference in opinion. You think you can't do enough testing. > > I think there are some tests which counts for

Re: OFF TOPIC: Introduction

2019-12-03 Thread Dave Newton
On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 12:57 PM Zahid Rahman wrote: > We have a difference in opinion. You think you can't do enough testing. > I think there are some tests which counts for nothing. It is just testing > for testing sake. > No, I think there are tests that count for nothing, or test the

Re: OFF TOPIC: Introduction

2019-12-03 Thread Zahid Rahman
We have a difference in opinion. You think you can't do enough testing. I think there are some tests which counts for nothing. It is just testing for testing sake. Because we have difference in opinion/ approach doesn't mean you should get personal. At the end of the day people like me who

Re: OFF TOPIC: Introduction

2019-12-03 Thread Dave Newton
On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 9:43 AM Zahid Rahman wrote: > If the developer tests his own code then there is a danger that he will > pass his misunderstanding of specification. > Correct. > Anyway in the safety critical environments the one who wrote the code does > not do the testing. > That's

Re: OFF TOPIC: Introduction

2019-12-03 Thread Zahid Rahman
If the developer tests his own code then there is a danger that he will pass his misunderstanding of specification. Anyway in the safety critical environments the one who wrote the code does not do the testing. Testing is done by developers.Of course. On that point I will agree to disagree

Re: OFF TOPIC: Introduction

2019-12-03 Thread Dave Newton
On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 07:04 Zahid Rahman wrote: > test from specification not from code and testing MUST not > to be done by the person who wrote the code as suggested in a book I read > recently. Testing is multi-tiered just like the rest of large applications. Developers are in a unique

OFF TOPIC: Introduction

2019-12-03 Thread Zahid Rahman
Hi, I wish to correct an error on my part, I feel I should have introduced myself as soon as I logged on. I was advised by my College Lecturer that I should look for a junior position on a project to start my career. I was offered two positions after two job interviews 1. product