Le 05/05/2013 02:10, Ken Springer a écrit :
One of my other personal gripes about today's computer users and some
employers.
IMO, this is a long time marketting motto which I try to fight: IT is
*not* easy and IT is *not* intuitive. Unfortunately, for more than 30
years, the powers-that-be
Hi,
Le 05/05/2013 05:14, Andrew K a écrit :
I find that most people I know who use word processors as a (barely
glorified) typewriter are those who are most resistant to using
styles.
They are not resistant: they have never been seriously told about styles
and their bosses believe software
Hi all, I am just new here so i am not that much familiar with anything
basically, so to have a kick start I can take any responsibility. I will
prefer development kind of work, but list moderating is also fine for me.
The only thing is I may take some time to understand things fully. If this
job
Dear Ken,
could you please post numbers of these bugs here? The topic sounds to be
interesting
Thanks
Milos
Dňa 05.05.2013 00:32, Ken Springer wrote / napísal(a):
As I noted in private email, LO still has not assigned two bugs I
filed to anyone yet. They are classified a low priority. As I
Hi,
I observe that LibreOffice and MS Office display even simple documents,
containing just a few paragraphs with numbered and bulleted lists,
differently. These differences are from both sides: a document is
created in LO, stored in odf and opened in MSO (2013) and vice versa:
created in
Hi,
Le 05/05/2013 11:01, Milos Sramek a écrit :
- if the reason is somewhere else
Do you have an idea?
Styles. Or lack of.
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On 05/05/2013 at 00:32, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:
As I noted in private email, LO still has not assigned two bugs I filed
to anyone yet. They are classified a low priority. As I mentioned, the
issues are not low priority to me, so if they don't want to fix them,
I'll pay for a
Hello Jean-Francois,
I didn't know that you know the same people I know.
On 05/05/2013, at 4:16 PM, Jean-Francois Nifenecker
jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net wrote:
Hi,
Le 05/05/2013 05:14, Andrew K a écrit :
I find that most people I know who use word processors as a (barely
Hi Raymond,
Le 28/04/13 11:02 AM, L O a écrit :
Hi
I have made a writer document with two colour pictures in it and a bit of
text. When I print the document on a Samsung CLP-320 in colour mode then
they are printed like sephia (that is how it looks like most). When I
print the same picture
Hello Adrew,
Le 05/05/2013 12:29, Andrew K a écrit :
I didn't know that you know the same people I know.
Typewriter users are still alive and well. This is just because *noone*
(myself to begin with) never told them in time that a computer is no
typewriter. The secret is well kept and
A program is intuitive if it matches something in our previous experience.
Before computers, business professionals used typewriters. If you want a
computer to be intuitive, you need to make it work as much like a typewriter
as possible. (I'm still amazed that, after 30+ years, the typewriter
On 5/5/13 2:35 AM, Milos Sramek wrote:
Dear Ken,
could you please post numbers of these bugs here? The topic sounds to be
interesting
Thanks
Milos
Dňa 05.05.2013 00:32, Ken Springer wrote / napísal(a):
As I noted in private email, LO still has not assigned two bugs I
filed to anyone yet.
On 05/05/2013 06:29 AM, Marc Paré wrote:
Hi Raymond,
Le 28/04/13 11:02 AM, L O a écrit :
Hi
I have made a writer document with two colour pictures in it and a
bit of
text. When I print the document on a Samsung CLP-320 in colour mode then
they are printed like sephia (that is how it looks
Hi, Mirosław,
Interspersed reply below.
On 5/5/13 4:08 AM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:
On 05/05/2013 at 00:32, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:
As I noted in private email, LO still has not assigned two bugs I filed
to anyone yet. They are classified a low priority. As I mentioned, the
On 5/5/13 12:13 AM, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote:
Le 05/05/2013 02:10, Ken Springer a écrit :
One of my other personal gripes about today's computer users and some
employers.
IMO, this is a long time marketting motto which I try to fight: IT is
*not* easy and IT is *not* intuitive.
On 05/05/2013 05:01 AM, Milos Sramek wrote:
Hi,
I observe that LibreOffice and MS Office display even simple
documents, containing just a few paragraphs with numbered and bulleted
lists, differently. These differences are from both sides: a document
is created in LO, stored in odf and opened
On 5/5/13 5:45 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
A program is intuitive if it matches something in our previous experience.
Before computers, business professionals used typewriters. If you want a
computer to be intuitive, you need to make it work as much like a typewriter
as possible. (I'm still
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Lots of info on this at Groklaw:
http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=20051216153153504
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Last night I replied to a posting from Andrew K., and I thought I sent
it to the list, but apparently9 I didn't. So here it is:
On 05/04/2013 11:14 PM, Andrew K wrote:
Hi,
I use styles as much as I can, just to achieve consistent formatting,
to say nothing of time saving.
I find that most
Doug,
Le 05/05/2013 17:29, Doug a écrit :
I may be wrong, but it would seem to me that all this fuss about styles
is made by people who are trying to do desktop publishing.
Styles are, obviously, a step towards DTP but, as you emphasize, a word
processor is no DTP (as much as a word
From: Ken Springer [snowsh...@q.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 7:49 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44871
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46986
Will wonders never cease... The first
Hi :)
My own personal views from observations, NOT TDF's view and nothing to do with
anyone else involved with LibreOffice is as follows. Check the voracity for
yourself. Don't rely on what people spoon-feed you!
There are 2 problems in play.
1. Any document in any editable format
On 05/05/2013 01:19 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
Doug wrote,
I may be wrong, but it would seem to me that all this fuss about
styles is made by people who are trying to do desktop publishing.
That's fine, altho there are probably better programs to do that,
even available to Linux users. I'm
Hi :)
I am not sure if people are aware but under Sun a lot of bugs just got ignored
or left to rot because the aim at that time was stability. If a bug is known
about and still exists in a new version then that qualifies as being stable.
Unstable is where you can't rely on long running bugs
Hi, Stuart,
I hope my manual reformatting of your reply works out. Most of the
time, there's a failure somewhere down the road. :-( You are the 2nd
poster whose messages display correctly, but do not format correctly
when using the Reply/Followup option in Thunderbird. I do not know
Hi :)
+1
* Text editor = plain text with no formatting
* Word-processors allow you to add little bits of formatting as and when you
want. Results look a little different on each different machine but it's easy
for people to edit and collaborate. It's more about the process of writing
than
On 5/5/13 12:20 PM, Doug wrote:
On 05/05/2013 01:19 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
Doug wrote,
snip
I write letters--where I have a heading saved as a file that I can
import--and I write occasionally for publication, in which case I write
double-spaced,
extra space for paragraph, and no
On 5/5/13 9:29 AM, Doug wrote:
Last night I replied to a posting from Andrew K., and I thought I sent
it to the list, but apparently9 I didn't. So here it is:
On 05/04/2013 11:14 PM, Andrew K wrote:
Hi,
I use styles as much as I can, just to achieve consistent formatting,
to say nothing of
On 5/5/13 1:11 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
snip
LaTex, Inkscape(?), Scribus and others are almost purely about Desktop
Publishing. You kinda have to know what you are aiming for before
you start.
You probably can rough it a bit but it's going to be awkward.
Just my thoughts from what people
On 5/5/13 12:53 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
I don't think it's fair to blame TDF for the failures of Oracle or Sun and
it's not fair to assume that just because your pet peeves haven't been
sorted by Sun that they are not going to be sorted under TDF.
I blame neither Oracle or Sun for anything.
On 5/5/13 12:20 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
Check the voracity for yourself
Hungry, Tom?LOL Sorry, I couldn't resist!
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Hi :)
Dohh! You are right. I did get the wrong word!! I was trying to be too
clever and tripped over my own shoe-laces. I think i meant veracity but i'm
not even sure that is correct now.
Hmmm, pizza and wine does sound like a good plan now you mention it! :)
Thanks and regards from
Hi :)
Yes, i can see your point and agree with it somewhat.
However i wanted to point out that without new features LO falls behind the
competition and fails to attract new people to join in. With the new features
people are attracted to it because it becomes clearer that just about anyone
Of course, everybody's work is different. From what you described you could
use Notepad and get the job done.
However, as an attorney, I write legal briefs. They require a title page
with no page numbers, front matter consisting of a table of contents, and a
table of authorities with lower
Hi :)
Errr, my Machine Translator seemed to be very wonky about that
Has been discussing with the urine is a good brother, one day stool
crossing the road was struck and killed by a car, urinate said: I miss
stool
lol!! The subject-line seemed much more likely with
Variety of vocational
Hi :)
Virgil, is there any chance you you uploading your template or whatever to the
Templates site? It sounds like something quite a lot of people could benefit
from having.
Regards from
Tom :)
From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com
To: Doug
Hi :)
That all sounds wise. A trial run after exams. Well, after celebrating after
exams.
I would quite like to be 1 of the moderators here but ideally
1. if there are plenty of other people to cover it too. Most of the posts
seem to be when i am afk or even off-line completely
2.
Sure, I'll give it a try.
Virgil
-Original Message-
From: Tom Davies
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 4:48 PM
To: Virgil Arrington ; Doug ; users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles
Hi :)
Virgil, is there any chance you you uploading your template
Hi :)
A couple of months ago someone gave an excellent link to a place where you
could 'vote' on what you want some free-lance devs to work on and assign a
value of cash you would pay of they fixed it. Typical amounts would be around
1 beer in a pub but some people were putting quite large
Tom,
Were you thinking of this?
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Microfund-your-favourite-Issue-tc4035685.html#none
Stuart
From: Tom Davies [tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 4:10 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re:
On 05/05/2013 04:00 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:
On 2013-05-05 22:29, Marc Paré wrote:
Hi Raymond,
Le 28/04/13 11:02 AM, L O a écrit :
Hi
I have made a writer document with two colour pictures in it and a
bit of
text. When I print the document on a Samsung CLP-320 in colour mode
then
they
Hi :)
Brilliant, yes.
http://blog.freedomsponsors.org/about/
Thanks Stuart. Looks like an excellent idea to me.
Regards from
Tom :)
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If you are interested, the only requirement is that
On 2013-05-06 10:15, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
On 05/05/2013 04:00 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:
On 2013-05-05 22:29, Marc Paré wrote:
Hi Raymond,
Le 28/04/13 11:02 AM, L O a écrit :
Hi
I have made a writer document with two colour pictures in it and a
bit of
text. When I print the
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