Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now? Re: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice 4.1: a landmark for interoperability

2013-07-27 Thread sun shine
Hi Tom Thanks for the heads up. Aside from some minor issues regarding documentation and installation, it seems to work fine. Here's my experience on Mint 14, FWIW: The Read-Me still states: The following commands will install LibreOffice and the desktop integration packages (you may just

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Amit Choudhary
Hi Tom, I have been programming since 1987. I have all my degrees in computer science/networking. I have worked for companies like Cisco systems, Juniper networks and have turned down offers from companies like Google and Microsoft for one reason or other. This whole software industry is going

Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?

2013-07-27 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
Mint 14?MATE or Cinnamon desktop environment? I run Ubuntu 12.04LTS with MATE. So the desktop-integration now works properly without the extra step. Yes, the Language Pack before the Help Pack was something that I remember hearing about back in 3.4.x days. Has anyone installed the

Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?

2013-07-27 Thread Heinrich Stoellinger
Hello, Not the rpm- but the deb-Version (32bit) on Debian-Wheezy-KDE 4.10. IT STILL DOES NOT WORK!!! Regards Heinrich On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 11:53:23 +0200, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: Mint 14?MATE or Cinnamon desktop environment? I run Ubuntu 12.04LTS with

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Paul
Hi Amit, While your CV is impressive, this is still just your opinion. For open source software, it seems that this isn't true. Release early and release often is a mantra that is oft repeated; it seems that several open source projects have found this to be the most effective way of keeping

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Amit Choudhary
I have joined libreoffice for contributing to development. Amit On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Amit Choudhary contact.amit.choudhary.in...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tom, I have been programming since 1987. I have all my degrees in computer science/networking. I have worked for companies like

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Amit Choudhary
If we have to beat Microsoft then we need to focus only on what Microsoft provides and not on .odt format, etc. We cannot beat Microsoft by introducing a new format and expecting customers to use new formats (I use Microsoft formats only and whatever other formats is suported by Microsoft). We

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
There was an announcement from MS that they are going to go to a faster release cycle. The plan was that a new version of MSO, and other software from them, will be released every 3 or 4 months instead of every 2 or 3 years. As for LO being released with bugs, most software seems to have

[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Draw destroys odg files

2013-07-27 Thread Marc Paré
Hi everyone, I am just keeping the text together on this one as it has been a while since this topic was discussed. I just got a file that crashes LibreOffice v.4.0 but I found that it does open with the newest version LibreOffice v.4.1. Michael, who supplied the file, has found that it

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Amit Choudhary
Hi Paul, Please find my answers below. Regards, Amit On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Paul paulste...@afrihost.co.za wrote: Hi Amit, While your CV is impressive, this is still just your opinion. For open source software, it seems that this isn't true. Release early and release often is a

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Amit Choudhary
I am not using the standard format of replying but I am impressed with your achievements. As far as LO is concerned can we atleast make sure that LO does not crash. I ended up buying Microsoft Office because OpenOffice used to crash a lot. I have a suggestion that can avoid random crashes and I

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Walther Koehler
Hi Amit, I am very much appreciate your opinion and it is absolutely true. As a user a rather want to have these little nasty bugs eliminated, still in LO. (i.e. spelling correction, ..). You dont need to reinvent the wheel every month. Atlhough I work in totally different business, I made the

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Paul
Hi Amit, I'm combining a couple of mails here: If we have to beat Microsoft then we need to focus only on what Microsoft provides and not on .odt format, etc. This is most definitely *not* what LO should be doing. .odt is a good, open standard that we need to keep using, so that different

Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?

2013-07-27 Thread sun shine
On 27/07/13 10:53, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: Mint 14?MATE or Cinnamon desktop environment? I run Ubuntu 12.04LTS with MATE. So the desktop-integration now works properly without the extra step. Yes, the Language Pack before the Help Pack was something that I remember hearing

Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?

2013-07-27 Thread sun shine
On 27/07/13 11:10, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hello, Not the rpm- but the deb-Version (32bit) on Debian-Wheezy-KDE 4.10. IT STILL DOES NOT WORK!!! Regards Heinrich snip Hello Heinrich Seems like you have been experiencing difficulty with this version for quite some time, IIRC? However,

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Virgil Arrington
Amit wrote: The main problem here is that the user does not know wheher the next release is more stable than previous one or not. And the user will get caught in the conflict in the sense that he will think that may be if he does not upgrade then he might be losing out on some features. This

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Paul
Hi Virgil, Just to comment on one aspect: It appears to me as if, with LO, we users are doing the testing that commercial companies do in-house. Well, yes, kind of. You see, the open source world doesn't have lots of paid developers to do this sort of testing, so it does in part rely on the

Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?

2013-07-27 Thread sun shine
On 07/27/2013 03:49 AM, sun shine wrote: snip The language pack must be installed before the help pack - I can't recall having to do this in a given order before, but maybe I did for previous versions. snip Sorry about replying to own post, but have just seen the instruction on the download

Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?

2013-07-27 Thread sun shine
I've just installed 4.1 on Squeeze and no problems, although this was using Gnome 2.* DE again. Just a thought: if you have the space, time and patience, you could install the Gnome DE (unless it's already installed by default?) and see if you could install it through that DE. Or even Xfce4

Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?

2013-07-27 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
On 07/27/2013 08:11 AM, sun shine wrote: On 27/07/13 10:53, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: Mint 14?MATE or Cinnamon desktop environment? I run Ubuntu 12.04LTS with MATE. So the desktop-integration now works properly without the extra step. Yes, the Language Pack before the Help Pack

Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?

2013-07-27 Thread Heinrich Stoellinger
Hi, As a first installment... - What goes wrong? Clicking on any of the icons for the various parts of LO doesn't cause anything to come up. Also, there is no LibreOffice icon for the complete package, only icons for the various parts... - Yes, I DID delete LO befor trying to install 4.1

Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?

2013-07-27 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
That is why we need to include a dependency script to help install everything that might be missing before you install LO. Not everyone might have all the dependencies installed. I have one Linux Distro that would tell me a list of the dependencies needed to install the package but would

Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?

2013-07-27 Thread sun shine
On 27/07/13 15:36, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hi, As a first installment... - What goes wrong? Clicking on any of the icons for the various parts of LO doesn't cause anything to come up. Also, there is no LibreOffice icon for the complete package, only icons for the various parts... -

Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?

2013-07-27 Thread Joel Madero
On 07/27/2013 08:16 AM, sun shine wrote: On 27/07/13 15:36, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hi, As a first installment... - What goes wrong? Clicking on any of the icons for the various parts of LO doesn't cause anything to come up. Also, there is no LibreOffice icon for the complete

[libreoffice-users] eastern font in new version

2013-07-27 Thread biggrandad
I have just installed ver 4 on my ubuntu 13.04 system but when I try to change the set font most if not all are indian script fonts. Is there any way theses can be removed and western fonts installed. I have tried looking in the documentation but there seems to be mention of fonts. cheers dave

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Ernie Kurtz
Hi Amit and Paul and . . . I am just an ordinary user -- historian by training, academic researcher in medicine by profession. I, and most with whom I work and come into contact, wish for, hope for, and strongly prefer stable releases in a work environment that requires interoperability with

[libreoffice-users] Dimensions not working

2013-07-27 Thread Joseph Hesse
Hi, I am using writer 4.x. I formatted an 8.5 x 11 page as follows: Top, Bottom margin = 0.25 Body is a table with 1 column and 3 rows. The top row has a height of 5. The middle row has a height of 0.5. The bottom row has a height of 5. The numbers 0.25+5+0.5+5+0.25 add up to 11. The table

Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?

2013-07-27 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
On 07/27/2013 11:32 AM, Joel Madero wrote: On 07/27/2013 08:16 AM, sun shine wrote: On 27/07/13 15:36, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hi, As a first installment... - What goes wrong? Clicking on any of the icons for the various parts of LO doesn't cause anything to come up. Also, there is no

[libreoffice-users] No desktop integration

2013-07-27 Thread Julio A. Cartaya
I'm running OpenSUSE 12.3 on an x86-64. Downloaded RPM package (torrent) and attempted to follow instructions. Found and installed main RPMs, but on second step found no desktop-integration directory, desktop-integration RPMs, nothing of the sort. How do I complete installation? Thanks Julio A.

Re: [libreoffice-users] eastern font in new version

2013-07-27 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
On 07/27/2013 11:53 AM, biggrandad wrote: I have just installed ver 4 on my ubuntu 13.04 system but when I try to change the set font most if not all are indian script fonts. Is there any way theses can be removed and western fonts installed. I have tried looking in the documentation but there

Re: [libreoffice-users] No desktop integration

2013-07-27 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
On 07/27/2013 01:42 PM, Julio A. Cartaya wrote: I'm running OpenSUSE 12.3 on an x86-64. Downloaded RPM package (torrent) and attempted to follow instructions. Found and installed main RPMs, but on second step found no desktop-integration directory, desktop-integration RPMs, nothing of the sort.

Re: [libreoffice-users] No desktop integration

2013-07-27 Thread Joel Madero
On 07/27/2013 12:31 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: On 07/27/2013 01:42 PM, Julio A. Cartaya wrote: I'm running OpenSUSE 12.3 on an x86-64. Downloaded RPM package (torrent) and attempted to follow instructions. Found and installed main RPMs, but on second step found no desktop-integration

[libreoffice-users] Uninstall ?

2013-07-27 Thread Sheafe Ewing
Have read the ReadMe Notes after downloading LibreOffice 4.1.0 Is it necessary to uninstall version 4.0.3.3 before installing the newest version 4.1.0 Using Mac OS 10.8.4 Thx -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

Re: [libreoffice-users] Dimensions [] working

2013-07-27 Thread Brian Barker
At 14:01 27/07/2013 -0500, Joseph Hesse wrote: I am using writer 4.x. I formatted an 8.5 x 11 page as follows: Top, Bottom margin = 0.25 Body is a table with 1 column and 3 rows. The top row has a height of 5. The middle row has a height of 0.5. The bottom row has a height of 5. The

[libreoffice-users] Re: Uninstall ?

2013-07-27 Thread Tinkerer
No. Version 4.1 will overwrite an older version and your personal data will remain intact, together with Templates, Extensions etc. Tink. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Uninstall-tp4067654p4067660.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at

[libreoffice-users] North America QA Online Chat

2013-07-27 Thread Joel Madero
Hi All, So it looks like we have at least 5 people from North America who are interested in participating so I say let's do it. I think Friday, August 2nd at 15:00 (EST) seems to work for everyone but please correct me if I'm wrong. Do we prefer IRC or make it a bit more personal with

[libreoffice-users] Re: North America QA Online Chat

2013-07-27 Thread Joel Madero
On 07/27/2013 05:34 PM, Joe Lee wrote: The date and time works for me. If I recall correctly, Google Hangout requires nonfree software, so let's use IRC instead, or perhaps Jitsi or Ekiga if we can all get one of those working? -Joe Lee On 07/27/2013 05:11 PM, Joel Madero wrote: Hi All, So

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Amit Choudhary
A customer can compromise on fetaures but not on stability Actually, from what I've gathered from this list, it seems the problems half the time are new features that users want, and half the time bugs. Well, maybe not exactly a 50-50 split, but still. Yes, there are a few complaints about

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Amit Choudhary
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Amit Choudhary contact.amit.choudhary.in...@gmail.com wrote: A customer can compromise on fetaures but not on stability Actually, from what I've gathered from this list, it seems the problems half the time are new features that users want, and half the time

[libreoffice-users] Notes in Impress vs. PowerPoint

2013-07-27 Thread Jeffrey Deutsch
Hello, My wife is willing to consider converting to LibreOffice 4 permanently. Here's her major issue, in two parts: (1) She does not know how to start or use Notes in LibO Impress (the presentation part). (2) When she starts (and saves) Notes in PowerPoint, and then works on the presentation

[libreoffice-users] Re: North America QA Online Chat

2013-07-27 Thread Joe Lee
On 07/27/2013 05:55 PM, Joel Madero wrote: Well with hangout I can call talkyoo which is our conference call phone line so you could use a cell phone or landline to call in - is this acceptable? Sure, I'll call in by phone. Thanks for understanding. Can someone send me the number? -Joe --

[libreoffice-users] Re: Automatic sizing of documents in single window

2013-07-27 Thread jumper46
Tom, I have delayed replying in order to install LO4.1 (was using 4.0.3), hoping the sizing issue was not solved by this update. Unfortunately, it wasn't. The Cascade command to which you refer is not in any version of Windows (I'm using Win7, soon to be LinuxMint 15). Rather, it and the Tile

[libreoffice-users] Re: North America QA Online Chat

2013-07-27 Thread Joe Lee
The date and time works for me. If I recall correctly, Google Hangout requires nonfree software, so let's use IRC instead, or perhaps Jitsi or Ekiga if we can all get one of those working? -Joe Lee On 07/27/2013 05:11 PM, Joel Madero wrote: Hi All, So it looks like we have at least 5 people

[libreoffice-users] Re: North America QA Online Chat

2013-07-27 Thread Mas
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Joe Lee l...@soe.ucsc.edu wrote: On 07/27/2013 05:55 PM, Joel Madero wrote: Well with hangout I can call talkyoo which is our conference call phone line so you could use a cell phone or landline to call in - is this acceptable? Sure, I'll call in by