Re: [libreoffice-users] status of macro in ODF interoperability?

2014-07-25 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 07/23/2014 11:40 AM, M. Fioretti wrote: Greetings, When I wrote this, almost 10 years ago, things didn't looking too good for inter-suite macro compatibility: http://archive09.linux.com/feature/47935 today, I have the feeling thing's haven't really improved, when it comes to macros

[libreoffice-users] Re: status of macro in ODF interoperability?

2014-07-25 Thread Owen Genat
M. Fioretti wrote When I wrote this, almost 10 years ago, things didn't looking too good for inter-suite macro compatibility: http://archive09.linux.com/feature/47935 today, I have the feeling thing's haven't really improved, when it comes to macros inserted in ODF files, even considering

[libreoffice-users] Nitpicking on a name

2014-07-25 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello everyone, I apologize as what I am writing about might seem like a detail to many, but I think it hurts a bit the project in the end to leave these things as they are. On this list (a few others as well but esp. On this one) people call LibreOffice LO. We -sorry to take on my founder's

Re: [libreoffice-users] status of macro in ODF interoperability?

2014-07-25 Thread M. Fioretti
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 02:25:29 AM -0400, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: On 07/23/2014 11:40 AM, M. Fioretti wrote: that is supported (roughly speaking although not totally accurate). This part of the language means things such as how do I wrote a loop. Then you have the part of how do I

Re: [libreoffice-users] Nitpicking on a name

2014-07-25 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
Bravo! On 25/07/14 08:19, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Hello everyone, I apologize as what I am writing about might seem like a detail to many, but I think it hurts a bit the project in the end to leave these things as they are. On this list (a few others as well but esp. On this one) people

Re: [libreoffice-users] Nitpicking on a name

2014-07-25 Thread Cley Faye
2014-07-25 9:19 GMT+02:00 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org: Now you will tell me that it is easier to type LO than it is with LibreOffice. Perhaps. But everyone here writes MS Office... ​I've seen MSO used in long messages... Seeing that these messages are on the

Re: [libreoffice-users] Nitpicking on a name

2014-07-25 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Cley, On 25 juillet 2014 11:17:42 CEST, Cley Faye cleyf...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-07-25 9:19 GMT+02:00 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org: Now you will tell me that it is easier to type LO than it is with LibreOffice. Perhaps. But everyone here writes MS Office...

[libreoffice-users] Re: Nitpicking on a name

2014-07-25 Thread Owen Genat
Charles-H. Schulz wrote On this list (a few others as well but esp. On this one) people call LibreOffice LO. We -sorry to take on my founder's hat here- never called LibreOffice LO. Acronyms / nicknames / shortcuts are rarely at the discretion of the one being named. If the O in LibreOffice

Re: [libreoffice-users] Nitpicking on a name

2014-07-25 Thread Paul
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 11:37:16 +0200 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Oh, I am not afraid of confusion. Only that we are using a weird way to call LibreOffice and that it does not make much sense to use an acronym. With all due respect here, and not to shoot the

Re: [libreoffice-users] Nitpicking on a name

2014-07-25 Thread Jon Harringdon
Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Now you will tell me that it is easier to type LO than it is with LibreOffice. Perhaps. But everyone here writes MS Office... Anyway the point I am trying to make is that LO does not mean anything and sends the wrong message.

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Lao Open Source Training on LibreOffice

2014-07-25 Thread mysith MSA
Anousak, Pls find closing  MC On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 5:47 PM, William Gathoye will...@gathoye.be wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Anousak! First of all congratulations! On 07/18/2014 12:03 PM, Anousak Souphavanh wrote: Attached are photos of the training. As

Re: [libreoffice-users] status of macro in ODF interoperability?

2014-07-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I feel that going with Extensions is better than doing macros. It seems to affect LO in a more general way rather than 1 document at a time. It gives an opportunity to submit the code to the main branch for possible adoption for everyone. It sounds like it might be easier to modify the

Re: [libreoffice-users] Nitpicking on a name

2014-07-25 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Le 25.07.2014 12:59, Paul a écrit : On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 11:37:16 +0200 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Oh, I am not afraid of confusion. Only that we are using a weird way to call LibreOffice and that it does not make much sense to use an acronym. With all due

Re: [libreoffice-users] status of macro in ODF interoperability?

2014-07-25 Thread M. Fioretti
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 12:12:36 PM +0100, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I feel that going with Extensions is better than doing macros. It seems to affect LO in a more general way rather than 1 document at a time yes (and I agree with everything else you said) but... going with extensions is

Re: [libreoffice-users] Nitpicking on a name

2014-07-25 Thread Doug
On 07/25/2014 03:19 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Hello everyone, I apologize as what I am writing about might seem like a detail to many, but I think it hurts a bit the project in the end to leave these things as they are. On this list (a few others as well but esp. On this one) people call

[libreoffice-users] Re: status of macro in ODF interoperability?

2014-07-25 Thread Pedro
Hi Tom TomD wrote I feel that going with Extensions is better than doing macros. They have different goals. Extensions are for automated solutions that could be interesting for other users. Macros are for quickly solving your own itch. TomD wrote Macros seem kinda the MS way of thinking

[libreoffice-users] WHY? Fw: Bouncing messages from users@global.libreoffice.org

2014-07-25 Thread Luuk
Why do i get this message: Op vrijdag 25 juli 14:00 2014 schreef users+ow...@global.libreoffice.org users+ow...@global.libreoffice.org het volgende: Hi, this is the Mlmmj program managing the users@global.libreoffice.org mailing list. Some messages to you could not be delivered. If

Re: [libreoffice-users] scale a Writer document to print on one page

2014-07-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Ahh, that does make sense then! Good to hear. It's a bit of a shame we haven't heard back from the original poster, Truett Bobo, so we still don't know if he has solved the problem or not. The first 2 answers both had good ways of handling the problem, mine might have worked (maybe). I

Re: [libreoffice-users] Nitpicking on a name

2014-07-25 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Charles, Am 25.07.2014 um 09:19 schrieb Charles-H. Schulz: Anyway the point I am trying to make is that LO does not mean anything and sends the wrong message. From my personal observation LO is a well established abbreviation for LibreOffice as well as AOO, OOo, MSO are well-known

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: status of macro in ODF interoperability?

2014-07-25 Thread Jon Harringdon
Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote: TomD wrote If people really just want to do everything the MS way but have a kinda cheap MS clone then they are really missing out on a lot of the wealth of opportunity that OpenSource offers. I think you are being an Open Source fundamentalist. Creating

Re: [libreoffice-users] scale a Writer document to print on one page

2014-07-25 Thread Truett Bobo
Hello: I’ve been spending time with a daughter who is visiting for a week, and am just now getting back to my question about printing a document 22” by 17”. The document I am interested in printing is a single page, twice letter size in both directions. The area I wish to print is the entire

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: status of macro in ODF interoperability?

2014-07-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Fair points! Yep, Jon and Pedro are right that a lot of stuff can be automated more easily by using macros and M. Fioretti is right that even stuff that might be better done by other means is probably easier for the average user to do with a macro. As for the proliferation of macros for

Re: [libreoffice-users] mailing list

2014-07-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) This guide might help you unsubscribe! http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Good luck and regards from Tom :) On 23 July 2014 23:06, Giorgio Valt g.v...@alice.it wrote: Desidero essere cancellato dalla mailing list. Cordialità.

Re: [libreoffice-users] Scan documents?

2014-07-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Yeh, i think we guessed that you used a scanner rather than a video-player. Don't worry! Many of us have difficulty remembering the names of whassnames compared to thingumybobs. Luckily double-clicking or typing in a bit of a description usually brings up the right tool. Errr, it's only

Re: [libreoffice-users] status of macro in ODF interoperability?

2014-07-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I agree with that. However, even with MS Office i have very rarely met anyone in any of the offices i've worked in ever found anyone able to write or edit macros, even using their macro-recorder. We have run tons of training programmes for people and sent people off to external training

Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with standard filter

2014-07-25 Thread Mark Bourne
Ah yes, I didn't mention that bit on my addition to #46062. A workaround for that case is: - Select Standard Filter... rather than any tick boxes - Set the Field name to - none - - Click OK I notice you've mentioned on #46062 that Excel includes a (blanks) option. That's the kind of thing I

Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with standard filter

2014-07-25 Thread Rob Jasper
Mark, I tested that briefly in Excel. Excel doen't seem to make difference in v blank cells and cels containing one or more spaces. I had blank cells, cells with one space, and cells with 2 spaces. Only one selection came up, and it selected all 3 variations. I also tested prepending spaces to

[libreoffice-users] How to locate python macro for editing?

2014-07-25 Thread Jim Byrnes
I am using Ubuntu 12.04 and LibreOffice 3.5.7.2. A couple of years ago I created a python macro and a custom menu entry to run it. It still works but I am going to change the underlying sheet and will need to change the macro. The problem is I haven't done any work with macros since I wrote

Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with standard filter

2014-07-25 Thread Rob Jasper
Mark, forgot to mention that, although the reported problems are different, bugs 81577 and 46062 are very related. They might be solved by one solution.. Rob. Op 26 jul. 2014, om 00:14 heeft Rob Jasper het volgende geschreven: Mark, I tested that briefly in Excel. Excel doen't seem to

Re: [libreoffice-users] status of macro in ODF interoperability?

2014-07-25 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 07/25/2014 03:17 AM, M. Fioretti wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 02:25:29 AM -0400, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: On 07/23/2014 11:40 AM, M. Fioretti wrote: that is supported (roughly speaking although not totally accurate). This part of the language means things such as how do I wrote a loop.

Re: [libreoffice-users] How to locate python macro for editing?

2014-07-25 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 07/25/2014 06:16 PM, Jim Byrnes wrote: I am using Ubuntu 12.04 and LibreOffice 3.5.7.2. A couple of years ago I created a python macro and a custom menu entry to run it. It still works but I am going to change the underlying sheet and will need to change the macro. The problem is I

[libreoffice-users] Re: status of macro in ODF interoperability?

2014-07-25 Thread Owen Genat
Pedro wrote The fact that the VBA is for Windows (and Mac?) is not related to locking people in. VBA is a scripting language shared by all MSO programs to allow automation. I disagree. As my response upthread indicates, a macro language is designed to allow access to an API i.e., an

Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with standard filter

2014-07-25 Thread Mark Bourne
Ah yes, I didn't mention that bit on my addition to #46062. A workaround for that case is: - Select Standard Filter... rather than any tick boxes - Set the Field name to - none - - Click OK I notice you've mentioned on #46062 that Excel includes a (blanks) option. That's the kind of thing I

Re: [libreoffice-users] scale a Writer document to print on one page

2014-07-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Oops, sorry! Err, have you tried printing from the File - Print menu? That should give a pop-up box allowing you to select printer etc. In there or using the button there to go into the printer properties it might allow you to fit to page Regards from Tom :) On 25 July 2014 18:57,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with standard filter

2014-07-25 Thread Mark Bourne
Sorry - replied from the wrong account; I've resent from an address subscribed to the list. Please don't forward the moderated copy to the list. Thanks, Mark. Mark Bourne wrote: Ah yes, I didn't mention that bit on my addition to #46062. A workaround for that case is: - Select Standard