Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.6] listening on the network

2012-08-17 Thread Philippe Naudin
Le jeu. 16 août 2012 19:38:31 CEST, NoOp a écrit: On 08/16/2012 04:45 AM, Philippe Naudin wrote: Hello, I am using LibreOffice x86_64 on Linux, installed from official rpms. Since it got updated to Version 3.6.0.4 (Build ID: 932b512), rkhunter whines : Checking for packet

[libreoffice-users] Bugs in LibreOffice

2012-08-17 Thread vikas pisal
Hello All, I have been using libre office since relase. While using libreoffice, I found several critical bugs like crash while saving file, creating pdf, data loss when opened from MS word docx format. Most stable release was LibO_3.3.2_Win_x86_helppack_en-US. After that, I tried

RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Excuse me, but your opinion is simplyunimportant. Start over and you can expect more of the same.

2012-08-17 Thread Michael Meeks
On Thu, 2012-08-16 at 20:05 -0500, V Stuart Foote wrote: It is pretty rare for specifics of bugs to be entered on the Users list, where there might have a passing comment that a bug would be or had been filed. But often no additional details of the bug in the discussion. But, that said, the

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Excuse me, but your opinion is simply unimportant. Start over and you can expect more of the same.

2012-08-17 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Marc, On Thu, 2012-08-16 at 09:03 -0800, Marc Grober wrote: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35361 ... that you knew you are creating extra work for the volunteers on the QA team with intend is really disgusting given the workload of this team. I suspect that what upset

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Excuse me, but your opinion is simply unimportant. Start over and you can expect more of the same.

2012-08-17 Thread Michael Meeks
On Thu, 2012-08-16 at 09:00 -0800, Marc Grober wrote: The latest from Florian in misspelled CAPS (which now brings us to the fact that the devs have touched this bug some 8 times without ever bothering to actually read it) - Bravo Florian, we read you 5 by 5: I've read it a couple of

NEEDINFO status on bugs vs. additional comments (was: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Excuse me, but your opinion is simply unimportant. Start over and you can expect more of the same.)

2012-08-17 Thread Thorsten Behrens
leif wrote: Half the problem is communication. Very much to the point. 1) simply commenting a bug does _not_ remove NEEDINFO status - in this case, only if the submitter had commented _and_ changed status to NEW, the bugs wouldn't have been closed 2) exposing users to the

Re: NEEDINFO status on bugs vs. additional comments (was: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Excuse me, but your opinion is simply unimportant. Start over and you can expect more of the same.)

2012-08-17 Thread Leif Lodahl
2012/8/17 Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org Sorry for the mess - but I would hate us arguing over spilled milk, instead of moving ahead. -- Thorsten +1 These are the most well spoken words in this case so far :-) Cheers, Leif -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to:

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: scalc 3.6 date format problem

2012-08-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)I think it's a matter of opinion whether it is a bug or not.  I tend to agree with you both but it's difficult to judge without finding out the background to the decision to change.  It might be worth posting a bug-report as a feature-request asking for it to be put back the way it was and

[libreoffice-users] calc: text 180 degree oriented don't honor wrap settings

2012-08-17 Thread yahoo-pier_andreit
ciao, using opensuse 12.1, kde 4.9, LibreOffice 3.5:build-403 if in a calc cell you set: formatcells[alignment tab]: text orientationdegree=180 and wrap text automatically=yes the setting is not honored, the result is not wrapped text leaving the settings as above, if you set: text alignment

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Excuse me, but your opinion is simply unimportant. Start over and you can expect more of the same.

2012-08-17 Thread Leif Lodahl
Hi Michael and all, May I suggest that we try to close down the discussion and try to find an acceptable approach? I believe that Michaels earlier mail explained the context and (as I read it) also include a small *apologize*. I suggest that - we send a polite and excusing mail to all the

Re: [libreoffice-users] calc: text 180 degree oriented don't honor wrap settings

2012-08-17 Thread Dan
yahoo-pier_andreit wrote: ciao, using opensuse 12.1, kde 4.9, LibreOffice 3.5:build-403 if in a calc cell you set: formatcells[alignment tab]: text orientationdegree=180 and wrap text automatically=yes the setting is not honored, the result is not wrapped text leaving the settings as above, if

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Excuse me, but your opinion is simply unimportant. Start over and you can expect more of the same.

2012-08-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)+1 Regards fromTom :)   --- On Fri, 17/8/12, Leif Lodahl leiflod...@gmail.com wrote: From: Leif Lodahl leiflod...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Excuse me, but your opinion is simply unimportant. Start over and you can expect more of the same. To:

[libreoffice-users] Office 2013 to (finally) read and write Open XML

2012-08-17 Thread T. R. Valentine
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/15/office_2013_strict_open_xml/ This should improve compatibility between LO and M$O. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting

NOT! lol Re: off-list :) Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting

2012-08-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Do!!  This is very confusing!  I'll be glad when i've got back to where i was before my 'hols' Regards from Tom :)  --- On Fri, 17/8/12, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: off-list :) Re: [libreoffice-users] formatting To:

Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-17 Thread Russ Fineman
I filter on [libreoffice-users] and Ref:[libreoffice-users] in Subject line with no problems. I route them to a local folder LibreOffice. I do it for various lists. Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Is it possible to set filters to look for items in a subject-line instead of looking at where replies

Re: [libreoffice-users] why does Windows version take so long to remove?

2012-08-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Depends which type of Ram.  'Old' DDR1 (such as for most of mine) is so horribly expensive it would be cheaper for me to buy a new mbord, plus chip, plus a healthy amount of DDR3 leaving a couple of slots for a future upgrade.  On the even older machines at work the 'ancient' sd-ram is

Re: [libreoffice-users] why does Windows version take so long to remove?

2012-08-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Have you tried Glest and Battle for Wesnoth? I'm not an FPS fan so i've not tried Alien Arena (well i have but i die t fast on-line) but there are many legacy games such as Elite and other classics.  Also http://trine-thegame.com/site/

[libreoffice-users] Re: Office 2013 to (finally) read and write Open XML

2012-08-17 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 17.08.2012 16:31, T. R. Valentine wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/15/office_2013_strict_open_xml/ This should improve compatibility between LO and M$O. Microsoft announcments http://peanuts.wikia.com/wiki/Football_Gag -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to:

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-17 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 16/08/2012 at 16:28, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote: BTW - what is PM ? Personal (Private) Message. Wikipedia article showed up as fourth entry when I asked Google about PM forum. But since Google personalizes search results (according to past queries of user), it's much harder to

Re: [libreoffice-users] Process

2012-08-17 Thread Marc Grober
Michael, No one is upset that a bug almost two years was not resolved. The file in question appeared to have been dropped (in other words, it was in the product, and then it wasn't), and we could find no explanation for why it was dropped, which suggests that somewhere there is a QA issue, but

[libreoffice-users] Re: NEEDINFO status on bugs vs. additional comments

2012-08-17 Thread Marc Grober
+1 +1 On 8/17/12 1:12 AM, Thorsten Behrens wrote: leif wrote: Half the problem is communication. Very much to the point. 1) simply commenting a bug does _not_ remove NEEDINFO status - in this case, only if the submitter had commented _and_ changed status to NEW, the bugs

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Office 2013 to (finally) read and write Open XML

2012-08-17 Thread Milos Sramek
Dňa 17.08.2012 18:52, Andreas Säger wrote / napísal(a): Am 17.08.2012 16:31, T. R. Valentine wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/15/office_2013_strict_open_xml/ This should improve compatibility between LO and M$O. Does anybody know how far is LO with implementation of Strict Open XML?

[libreoffice-users] Re: Office 2013 to (finally) read and write Open XML

2012-08-17 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 17.08.2012 21:30, Milos Sramek wrote: Dňa 17.08.2012 18:52, Andreas Säger wrote / napísal(a): Am 17.08.2012 16:31, T. R. Valentine wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/15/office_2013_strict_open_xml/ This should improve compatibility between LO and M$O. Does anybody know how far is

Re: [libreoffice-users] calc: text 180 degree oriented don't honor wrap settings

2012-08-17 Thread Dan
yahoo-pier_andreit wrote: On 17/08/12 13:35, Dan wrote: yahoo-pier_andreit wrote: ciao, using opensuse 12.1, kde 4.9, LibreOffice 3.5:build-403 if in a calc cell you set: formatcells[alignment tab]: text orientationdegree=180 and wrap text automatically=yes the setting is not honored, the

[libreoffice-users] Re: [3.6] listening on the network

2012-08-17 Thread NoOp
On 08/17/2012 12:04 AM, Philippe Naudin wrote: Le jeu. 16 août 2012 19:38:31 CEST, NoOp a écrit: ... I can't replicate on the deb version with: Rootkit Hunter version 1.3.8 What version of rkhunter have you: rkhunter --update to ensure that your rkhunter is up to date? Version

[libreoffice-users] Re: scalc 3.6 date format problem

2012-08-17 Thread Tinkerer
I am using Libre Office 3.6.0.4 on an iMac 10.8 if I enter the date as 17/08/12 it is displayed as 17/08/2012. No doubt whatsoever that the date is being accepted using ddmmyy Tink -- View this message in context:

[libreoffice-users] Re: scalc 3.6 date format problem

2012-08-17 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 17.08.2012 22:12, Tinkerer wrote: I am using Libre Office 3.6.0.4 on an iMac 10.8 if I enter the date as 17/08/12 it is displayed as 17/08/2012. No doubt whatsoever that the date is being accepted using ddmmyy OK, we could collect valid input pattern for dates in 180 different locales.

[libreoffice-users] Re: [3.6] listening on the network

2012-08-17 Thread NoOp
On 08/17/2012 01:27 PM, NoOp wrote: On 08/17/2012 12:04 AM, Philippe Naudin wrote: ... Thanks for your reply. I'm using a rpm ;), it is rkhunter-1.4.0-1.el5. I'm installing that now on Fedora 17 to test. Of course I can get rkhunter silent with something like DISABLE_TESTS=hidden_ports

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Office 2013 to (finally) read and write Open XML

2012-08-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think the problem is that MS Office 2010's and 2007's versions of docX, xlsX, (etc ) are not the same as each other and not the same as the ISO standard they managed to push through.  For most programs the differences would be considered bugs and work would be done to make the program

Re: [libreoffice-users] why does Windows version take so long to remove?

2012-08-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think Win7 uses less resources than Vista.  it was the first time they de-bloated their OS = an attempt to fit it onto mobile devices such as tablets (ok, not very mobile but more mobile than desktops).  So upgrading from Vista to Win7 might well be a good idea without worrying about