Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: SOLVED---How to set font in the libreoffice help screen

2012-03-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
You do deserve some credit for searching for and finding and making sense of 
the previous instructions.  NIcely done  congrats on fixing it :)
Regards from
Tom :)



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Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: SOLVED---How to set font in the libreoffice 
help screen
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 21 March, 2012, 18:31

Thanks. Wish I could take credit. Got answer over in bugzilla 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47602
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47602  from mani_k. 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mac OS X 10.7.3 - Java

2012-03-22 Thread Marc Grober
Sorry, but I am just not clear on what the issue is, but you probably DO want 
to stick with using OSX software update to keep Apple released java current. 
There is an OSX java app in utilities folder that provides details of java 
installation.



On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 No-Op it is always possible to forwards a post back to the list, as i have 
 just done.  It breaks it into a new thread.  It's not something you could be 
 expected to know so i hope i have been able to help you there :)
 
 Can anyone help with the Robson's question?  Is it soemthign to do with 
 LibreOffice - Preferences - Java 
 Does that show at least one version of java installed on the Mac?  If there 
 isn't a version of java installed then perhaps install one from
 http://www.java.com
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 --- On Wed, 21/3/12, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 - Java [was:  handling of 
 quotes before text in Calc 3.4 and 3.5 changed compare]
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Wednesday, 21 March, 2012, 22:08
 
 On 03/21/2012 12:33 PM, Robson Roberto Souza Peixoto wrote:
 Hi,
 
 on LibreOffice 3.5.1.2 aren't showing and running any macro write in java.
 
 The step to reproduce is:
 
 Tools - Macros - Run Macro
 LibreOffice Macros - MemoryUsage
 
 Don't show the macro 
 /Applications/LibreOffice.app/Contents/share/Scripts/java/MemoryUsage
 
 Know somebody how to fix it?
 
 thanks
 
 Don't know. What has this to do with the original subject ( handling of
 quotes before text in Calc 3.4 and 3.5 changed compare) of the thread
 that you hijacked? Please start a new thread/email rather than simply
 changing the subject of some other thread. Thanks.
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mac OS X 10.7.3 - Java

2012-03-22 Thread Marc Grober
But.  Java was not included in Lion I think, so if you do not see a java 
version then you just need to download it.



On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 No-Op it is always possible to forwards a post back to the list, as i have 
 just done.  It breaks it into a new thread.  It's not something you could be 
 expected to know so i hope i have been able to help you there :)
 
 Can anyone help with the Robson's question?  Is it soemthign to do with 
 LibreOffice - Preferences - Java 
 Does that show at least one version of java installed on the Mac?  If there 
 isn't a version of java installed then perhaps install one from
 http://www.java.com
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 --- On Wed, 21/3/12, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 - Java [was:  handling of 
 quotes before text in Calc 3.4 and 3.5 changed compare]
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Wednesday, 21 March, 2012, 22:08
 
 On 03/21/2012 12:33 PM, Robson Roberto Souza Peixoto wrote:
 Hi,
 
 on LibreOffice 3.5.1.2 aren't showing and running any macro write in java.
 
 The step to reproduce is:
 
 Tools - Macros - Run Macro
 LibreOffice Macros - MemoryUsage
 
 Don't show the macro 
 /Applications/LibreOffice.app/Contents/share/Scripts/java/MemoryUsage
 
 Know somebody how to fix it?
 
 thanks
 
 Don't know. What has this to do with the original subject ( handling of
 quotes before text in Calc 3.4 and 3.5 changed compare) of the thread
 that you hijacked? Please start a new thread/email rather than simply
 changing the subject of some other thread. Thanks.
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Import of 3D sketchup models into draw

2012-03-22 Thread Mike Baldwin
trying out the built in 3d generation facility in draw got me thinking.

Is there a possibility of including a an import option in draw for models
created in Google Sketchup which you can then rotate within Draw to show
various view points and annotate in order to help create technical drawings.

I know this facility is available in the pro version using the accompanying
layout program , however for those of us who cannot afford the $499 and use
the standard version of Sketchup this would be really great.

I'm sure it would also help generate a lot of interest from the Sketchup
community


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Re: [libreoffice-users] bad numbering of sections

2012-03-22 Thread Gergely Buday
 1.2 Section
 1.1.15 Subsection

 I created the former with MyHeading2 and the latter with MyHeading3.
 Why Libre Office does not take into account that I am already past
 1.2? Is there a tricky setting that makes this?

     Perhaps you are using too many heading styles; you probably only
 need one. In the above example, try this. Place the cursor at the end of
 the line 1.2 Section. Use the Enter key to create a new line after it.
 If it does not have the MyHeading2 style, select this style for this
 line. Then use the Tab key. This should create 1.2.1 in this line.
     If you create all the heading numbering you want in the Options tab
 of your highest heading style, probably MyHeading, you can use the Tab
 to go down one level of the outline each time you type the Tab key.
 Shift+Tab will go up one level.
     Hopefully, this will make some sense.

Going to the end of the previous heading and pressing Enter works, but
I have a long text already and I would like to correct the headings in
place. Why it does not work? If I go after 1.1.1 to the next heading
and make it MyHeading2 so I use one less Heading style, and press the
right arrow on the heading icon row, it changes to 1.2.1. I do not
understand the logic behind this. Or, is this a straight bug?

- Gergely

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Re: [libreoffice-users] bad numbering of sections

2012-03-22 Thread Gergely Buday
I wrote:

 Going to the end of the previous heading and pressing Enter works, but
 I have a long text already and I would like to correct the headings in
 place. Why it does not work? If I go after 1.1.1 to the next heading
 and make it MyHeading2 so I use one less Heading style, and press the
 right arrow on the heading icon row, it changes to 1.2.1. I do not
 understand the logic behind this. Or, is this a straight bug?

The cause was a really strange bug: in the Position tab of the Bullets
and Numbering dialog box the indentation numbers change for unknown
reasons and also the Start at field in the Options tab. Is this a
known bug?

- Gergely

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 - Java

2012-03-22 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 22/03/12 08:34, Marc Grober a écrit :

Hi Marc,

 But.  Java was not included in Lion I think, so if you do not see a java 
 version then you just need to download it.
 

Yep, Apple pulled Java from the Lion release. If users want an Oracle
Java, they have to go and install it themselves now, at least that is
what I understand the situation to be.

Alex



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 - Java

2012-03-22 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 22/03/12 06:55, Tom Davies a écrit :

Hi Tom,


 Can anyone help with the Robson's question?  Is it soemthign to do with 
 LibreOffice - Preferences - Java 
 Does that show at least one version of java installed on the Mac?  If there 
 isn't a version of java installed then perhaps install one from

Robson has stated that the problem exists on Windows too, so there is
probably a scripting component registration balls up somewhere in that
version of LO or else, a problem with version 1.7 of Java, which he
reported as having on his system. Will check it out for myself on Mac
Snow Leopard (where Java is present anyway).

Alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mac OS X 10.7.3 - Java

2012-03-22 Thread Marc Grober
For java for lion http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1421

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mac OS X 10.7.3 - Java

2012-03-22 Thread Robson Roberto Souza Peixoto
Hi,

Sorry. My english is so bad. 

There are Java installed on OSX, and the version is:
$ java -version 
java version 1.6.0_29
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_29-b11-402-11M3527)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.4-b02-402, mixed mode)

It's visible on LibreOffice - Preferences - Java in both (Windows and OSX).

The problem is:

All scripts from share/Scripts/java isn't appearing in runnable macro's list. 
To be more specific, it's not showing any macro write in java.

I tested the OpenOffice and it are working very well. I tested the LibreOffice 
3.4.5 on Fedora 16 and work very well, too.



On 22/03/2012, at 04:41, Marc Grober wrote:

 For java for lion http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1421
 
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[libreoffice-users] How to remove Outline format?

2012-03-22 Thread Dotan Cohen
In LibreOffice Writer 3.4 on Kubuntu I have a list of items that have
become outline formatted:
* Something
* Something else

How do I remove the outline formatting and return each line to an
individual paragraph?

Thanks.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mac OS X 10.7.3 - Java

2012-03-22 Thread Robson Roberto Souza Peixoto
I tested on OS X the LibreOffice 3.4.6 and are working very well.

On 22/03/2012, at 08:26, Robson Roberto Souza Peixoto wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Sorry. My english is so bad. 
 
 There are Java installed on OSX, and the version is:
 $ java -version 
 java version 1.6.0_29
 Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_29-b11-402-11M3527)
 Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.4-b02-402, mixed mode)
 
 It's visible on LibreOffice - Preferences - Java in both (Windows and OSX).
 
 The problem is:
 
 All scripts from share/Scripts/java isn't appearing in runnable macro's 
 list. To be more specific, it's not showing any macro write in java.
 
 I tested the OpenOffice and it are working very well. I tested the 
 LibreOffice 3.4.5 on Fedora 16 and work very well, too.
 
 
 
 On 22/03/2012, at 04:41, Marc Grober wrote:
 
 For java for lion http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1421
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to remove Outline format?

2012-03-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think Chapter 4 of the Writers Guide and look-up bullets and numbering?
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Writer_Guide
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] How to remove Outline format?
To: LibreOffice. users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 22 March, 2012, 11:56

In LibreOffice Writer 3.4 on Kubuntu I have a list of items that have
become outline formatted:
* Something
* Something else

How do I remove the outline formatting and return each line to an
individual paragraph?

Thanks.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] saving as docx crashes libreoffice 3.5.1 on windows 7

2012-03-22 Thread e-letter
On 21/03/2012, Jon Rubin darwinev0l...@gmail.com wrote:
 bangs head against wall.
 I'm in academia, they aren't going to buy me a copy of MS to use at home. I
 don't want to buy one.

Either change the source documents to odf to facilitate use of LO, or
buy m$. You will never achieve perfect compatibility between odf and
m$.

 Who benefits?
 Bangs head again.
 *I* benefit, if LO can open and save docx with no probllems so that it is
 transparent.

ODF does not. You would benefit better when abiword, kwrite, LO, AOO,
etc. can open and save odf without error.

 I normally ignore this kind of trolling, but as you rightly guessed, I've
 wasted several hours trying to get this to work and my patience is spent.


That's what it's all about: costs against benefits

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[libreoffice-users] [Ubuntu 11.10] How to remove LibreOffice?

2012-03-22 Thread Gilles
Hello

I need to customize the live ISO by removing applications my users won't
need.

One of them is LibreOffice: How can I remove it entirely, in one go?

 dpkg -l libreoffice*  returns a lot of stuff, with no obvious main
package that I could remove with apt-get --purge remove:



Thank you.

PS : Can grep only display the first two columns of data returned by dpkg
-l, or must I use sed or awk?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Ubuntu 11.10] How to remove LibreOffice?

2012-03-22 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Gilles codecompl...@free.fr wrote:
 Hello

 I need to customize the live ISO by removing applications my users won't
 need.

 One of them is LibreOffice: How can I remove it entirely, in one go?

  dpkg -l libreoffice*  returns a lot of stuff, with no obvious main
 package that I could remove with apt-get --purge remove:


That's a Debian/Ubuntu question, not a LibreOffice one.

What you need to do is to use the proper tools to create a custom LiveCD.
With those tools, you can select what packages to remove during the
generation of the ISO.
Look for the package 'ubuntu-defaults-builder', which comes with
Ubuntu 12.04 (maybe with 11.10 as well).

Simos

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[libreoffice-users] Re: [Ubuntu 11.10] How to remove LibreOffice?

2012-03-22 Thread Gilles
Thanks Simos. I wasn't getting replies over there, so asked here. I don't
know how to uninstall LibreOffice.

I'll look into ubuntu-defaults-builder to see if that's the right tool to
customize a live ISO that I can reuse to create new bootable USB keydrives.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to remove Outline format?

2012-03-22 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 14:26, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Hi :)
 I think Chapter 4 of the Writers Guide and look-up bullets and numbering?
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Writer_Guide
 Regards from
 Tom :)


Thanks, Tom! I haven't seen the LO docs, I still have OOo docs from
about 3.1 or 3.2 or so, and still refer to 2.x in some places. The LO
docs seem very nice and professional. I can never get through all of
them, but I will update my local docs with these.

I especially like to see the docs organised by LO version number. That
was one of the problems with the OOo docs: multiple versions
referenced in a single file.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [Ubuntu 11.10] How to remove LibreOffice?

2012-03-22 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Gilles codecompl...@free.fr wrote:
 Thanks Simos. I wasn't getting replies over there, so asked here. I don't
 know how to uninstall LibreOffice.

 I'll look into ubuntu-defaults-builder to see if that's the right tool to
 customize a live ISO that I can reuse to create new bootable USB keydrives.


It depends where you ask for Ubuntu.

For the tool that I mention, see the documentation at
https://wiki.edubuntu.org/DesktopTeam/Specs/Oneiric/LocalizedCDImageTools
There are many things that you can customise in the final ISO.
It was initially written so that you can have localised ISOs, but it
still suits your needs just fine.

Simos

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[libreoffice-users] Writer: Numbering Bullets: Reduce indent for all Outilnes in the entire document

2012-03-22 Thread Dotan Cohen
To change the indent for multiple Outlines in a Writer document, one
can select them with the mouse and then alter their properties.
However, one must then be careful not to select any non-Outline text.

To change all the Outline indentation without painstakingly selecting
the relevant sections in 39 pages, I tried looking in the Styles for a
style to alter. None of the styles seems to be correct, though, even
the promisingly-named List Indent style. So how does one change the
default outline indent for a document?

Better yet, if this is addressed in the fine manual I would love to
know where. I cannot seem to find it.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: [Ubuntu 11.10] How to remove LibreOffice?

2012-03-22 Thread Gilles
I just went ahead and ran apt-get --purge remove libreoffice-core.
Incidently, this doesn't remove the LibreOffice icons in the Unity bar.

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[libreoffice-users] Install RPM as non-superuser

2012-03-22 Thread Reinhard


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer: Numbering Bullets: Reduce indent for all Outilnes in the entire document

2012-03-22 Thread Steve Edmonds

Hi.
Did you apply the outline with the buttons in the tool bar or by 
applying a style.
If you used the buttons, you may be stuck. If you used a style you can 
edit the style you used and all outline with that style should change.
I have encountered this in the past and avoid those buttons, to my way 
of thinking the buttons should operate by applying a style and not by 
overloading a style.

steve

On 2012-03-23 05:35, Dotan Cohen wrote:

To change the indent for multiple Outlines in a Writer document, one
can select them with the mouse and then alter their properties.
However, one must then be careful not to select any non-Outline text.

To change all the Outline indentation without painstakingly selecting
the relevant sections in 39 pages, I tried looking in the Styles for a
style to alter. None of the styles seems to be correct, though, even
the promisingly-named List Indent style. So how does one change the
default outline indent for a document?

Better yet, if this is addressed in the fine manual I would love to
know where. I cannot seem to find it.

Thank you.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to remove Outline format?

2012-03-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Thanks :)  I have passed on your kind comments to the team that works on them 
(largely the same people that used to work on OOo docs but new people have been 
involved with the published guides too)  

The aim is to complete the first 2 guides (The Getting Started and Writer 
Guides) for each branch of LO and the remaining ones for the odd numbers; 
3.3.x, 3.5.x and so on.  The plan might change later on but so far it seems to 
be working.  

I was sorry to hear that you couldn't find what you were looking for to solve 
the initial problem but hopefully they might help with other issues.  
Thanks and regards from
Tom :)


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From: Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to remove Outline format?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 22 March, 2012, 15:03

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 14:26, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Hi :)
 I think Chapter 4 of the Writers Guide and look-up bullets and numbering?
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Writer_Guide
 Regards from
 Tom :)


Thanks, Tom! I haven't seen the LO docs, I still have OOo docs from
about 3.1 or 3.2 or so, and still refer to 2.x in some places. The LO
docs seem very nice and professional. I can never get through all of
them, but I will update my local docs with these.

I especially like to see the docs organised by LO version number. That
was one of the problems with the OOo docs: multiple versions
referenced in a single file.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [Ubuntu 11.10] How to remove LibreOffice?

2012-03-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I'm  not completely clear about what you are aiming for but this might neatly 
avoid a lot of side-issues
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/portable/

Install LibreOffice directly onto Usb-stick and tweak them, set-up your 
personal preferences the way you like and then use the usb-stick in any Windows 
machine to use the apps you like without having to get permission to install 
directly onto those machines.  It neatly avoids leaving so much of your stuff 
on those other machines too :)  You can include other apps alongside LO, such 
as Thunderbird, Gimp (i think) and stuff :)

Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Gilles codecompl...@free.fr
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: [Ubuntu 11.10] How to remove LibreOffice?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 22 March, 2012, 14:58

Thanks Simos. I wasn't getting replies over there, so asked here. I don't
know how to uninstall LibreOffice.

I'll look into ubuntu-defaults-builder to see if that's the right tool to
customize a live ISO that I can reuse to create new bootable USB keydrives.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Ubuntu 11.10] How to remove LibreOffice?

2012-03-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Ahh, how about using your package manager to do the job for you?

gksu synpatic

Should open my favourite package manager (atm) but any of the others might 
remove all the extra parts of LO just as nicely.  How about skipping a lot of 
this sort of thing and rebase off Lubuntu instead of Ubuntu?  Lubuntu is 
carefully made to be as light and fast as possible in a pointclick 
noob-friendly gateway distro
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=lubuntu

Regards from
Tom :)



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From: Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] [Ubuntu 11.10] How to remove LibreOffice?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 22 March, 2012, 14:47

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Gilles codecompl...@free.fr wrote:
 Hello

 I need to customize the live ISO by removing applications my users won't
 need.

 One of them is LibreOffice: How can I remove it entirely, in one go?

  dpkg -l libreoffice*  returns a lot of stuff, with no obvious main
 package that I could remove with apt-get --purge remove:


That's a Debian/Ubuntu question, not a LibreOffice one.

What you need to do is to use the proper tools to create a custom LiveCD.
With those tools, you can select what packages to remove during the
generation of the ISO.
Look for the package 'ubuntu-defaults-builder', which comes with
Ubuntu 12.04 (maybe with 11.10 as well).

Simos

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Re: [libreoffice-users] saving as docx crashes libreoffice 3.5.1 on windows 7

2012-03-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

This is getting really tiresome.  The argument that no-one should change until 
the entire world changes is more likely to dissuade anyone from trying LO.  

The rest of the project is working hard at getting LO out there as a higher 
priority and then the format switch will happen when people find the ODF 
formats are better.  

E-letter please can you stop bullying new people and driving them away with 
your copypasted rants?
Regards from
Tom :)

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From: e-letter inp...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] saving as docx crashes libreoffice 3.5.1 on 
windows 7
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 22 March, 2012, 14:19

On 21/03/2012, Jon Rubin darwinev0l...@gmail.com wrote:
 bangs head against wall.
 I'm in academia, they aren't going to buy me a copy of MS to use at home. I
 don't want to buy one.

Either change the source documents to odf to facilitate use of LO, or
buy m$. You will never achieve perfect compatibility between odf and
m$.

 Who benefits?
 Bangs head again.
 *I* benefit, if LO can open and save docx with no probllems so that it is
 transparent.

ODF does not. You would benefit better when abiword, kwrite, LO, AOO,
etc. can open and save odf without error.

 I normally ignore this kind of trolling, but as you rightly guessed, I've
 wasted several hours trying to get this to work and my patience is spent.


That's what it's all about: costs against benefits

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Install RPM as non-superuser

2012-03-22 Thread Jay Lozier

On 03/22/2012 01:08 PM, Reinhard wrote:


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From the subject line, I assume you wish to install LO without SU 
privileges on RHEL/Fedora/Centos. With Linux program/package installs 
require root privileges either using su or sudo. Using su normally 
requires a different password than the your normal password. If you can 
use sudo, you normally use your user password but normally must enter 
sudo for every command require root privileges.


What is your OS

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Install RPM as non-superuser

2012-03-22 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 22.03.2012 18:08, Reinhard wrote:



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Simply extract the installation files to some place and call 
./libreoffice3.5/program/soffice



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Install RPM as non-superuser

2012-03-22 Thread Nino Novak
Hi,

seems your message has been stripped by the List software, so I'm repeating it 
below for conveniance.

Nino

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Date: Mar 22, 2012; 6:08pm 
From: Reinhard
To: users@global
Subject: Install RPM as non-superuser

Hi all,

I have been using Open/Libre Office under Linux since at least release
1.5, but there was an annoying problem during installation starting with
OpenOffice 2: As a rule, you must be superuser to install it (at least
for the RPM files). This can be critical. Once I had to write some
analysis in a company on a computer without any administrator available.
(It was a Linux machine with the broken OpenOffice 2.0 on it.) Happily,
I knew how to transform all the RPM's to a big tgz archive and carried
OpenOffice 2.1 as tgz with me. For simple usage, you only need the file
tree somewhere (locally), and you must know to call .../program/soffice to
start.

The shell script below does this transformation and expects a tar.gz
archive of RPM's from the official distribution as argument. It is more
or less straightforward but I remember that many people asked in a forum
what to do with alle the RPM's not being superuser (it *is* possible,
but you have to install your own package database). I know that there
are difficulties to offer such tgz packages because of upload speed of
contributors, but it could be possible to run this script on a server
after uploading the packages in recent form..

At least, I think it should be known (and what to do with the file
tree). A guy during the Linux Day in Chemnitz (Germany) recommended me
last weekend to put such instruction to the wiki. Before spamming, I
would like to ask the community if this is worth a wiki entry ... (I
have possibly one more item - a Python class to analyze and modify ODF
files without using LibreOffice, but I think this would be rather a
Python issue).

Best

Reinhard


#!/bin/bash
# transform LibreOffice-tgz to plain tgz
# Reinhard Wobst, @(#) Mar 20 2012, 14:02:58

case $1 in
  (*.tar.gz) [[ -f $1 ]] || { echo \$1\ not found!; exit 1; };;
  () echo missing argument; exit 1;;
  (*) echo illegal file name:, $1; exit 1;;
esac

origin=$PWD
tmpdir=$(mktemp -u --tmpdir=.)
mkdir $tmpdir
ln $1 $tmpdir
cd $tmpdir

tar xzf *
pkgname=$(ls | fgrep -v tar.gz)
cd $pkgname
cd RPMS

for i in *.rpm; do rpm2cpio $i | cpio -id; done
cd opt
tar czf $origin/${pkgname}_tgz.tar.gz *
cd $origin
rm -rf $tmpdir

echo *** ${pkgname}_tgz.tar.gz created ***
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[libreoffice-users] Re: saving as docx crashes libreoffice 3.5.1 on windows 7

2012-03-22 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 20.03.2012 23:05, Shari wrote:

You can try saving it as a 2003 xml and office 2007/2010 should be able
to open that. I know in a previous version of Libre this worked for me.

Shari



2003 xml is even worse. The one and only file format with 95% 
compatibility is .doc/.xls/.ppt.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] saving as docx crashes libreoffice 3.5.1 on windows 7

2012-03-22 Thread Jay Lozier

On 03/22/2012 01:39 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)

This is getting really tiresome.  The argument that no-one should change until the entire world changes is more likely to dissuade anyone from trying LO. 

The rest of the project is working hard at getting LO out there as a higher priority and then the format switch will happen when people find the ODF formats are better. 


E-letter please can you stop bullying new people and driving them away with your 
copypasted rants?
Regards from
Tom :)
+1 - There are many reasons people want/need to use LO or OOo over MSO 
and we should be helping users solve their interoperability problems.


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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] saving as docx crashes libreoffice 3.5.1 on 
windows 7
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 22 March, 2012, 14:19

On 21/03/2012, Jon Rubindarwinev0l...@gmail.com  wrote:

bangs head against wall.
I'm in academia, they aren't going to buy me a copy of MS to use at home. I
don't want to buy one.

Either change the source documents to odf to facilitate use of LO, or
buy m$. You will never achieve perfect compatibility between odf and
m$.


Who benefits?
Bangs head again.
*I* benefit, if LO can open and save docx with no probllems so that it is
transparent.

ODF does not. You would benefit better when abiword, kwrite, LO, AOO,
etc. can open and save odf without error.


I normally ignore this kind of trolling, but as you rightly guessed, I've
wasted several hours trying to get this to work and my patience is spent.


That's what it's all about: costs against benefits




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [Ubuntu 11.10] How to remove LibreOffice?

2012-03-22 Thread Jay Lozier

On 03/22/2012 12:54 PM, Gilles wrote:

I just went ahead and ran apt-get --purge remove libreoffice-core.
Incidently, this doesn't remove the LibreOffice icons in the Unity bar.

Thank you.

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Do you have Synaptic installed? If you do, you can use it to 
remove/purge all the installed LO parts. What you did only removes 
specific files and will leave other LO files behind.


If you do not have Synaptic installed you can use the Ubuntu Software 
Center or apt-get install Synaptic.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: saving as docx crashes libreoffice 3.5.1 on windows 7

2012-03-22 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 21.03.2012 01:09, Jon Rubin wrote:

bangs head against wall.
I'm in academia, they aren't going to buy me a copy of MS to use at home. I
don't want to buy one.
Who benefits?
Bangs head again.
*I* benefit, if LO can open and save docx with no probllems so that it is
transparent.
I normally ignore this kind of trolling, but as you rightly guessed, I've
wasted several hours trying to get this to work and my patience is spent.



Why don't you simply download the free Word Viewer from the MS Office site?


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[libreoffice-users] Re: saving as docx crashes libreoffice 3.5.1 on windows 7

2012-03-22 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 20.03.2012 22:58, Shari wrote:

This person is only asking to do what the website says it can. Either it
can or it can't.
Shari


Obviously it can't and e-letter makes a point.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: [Ubuntu 11.10] How to remove LibreOffice?

2012-03-22 Thread NoOp
On 03/22/2012 07:38 AM, Gilles wrote:
 Hello
 
 I need to customize the live ISO by removing applications my users won't
 need.
 
 One of them is LibreOffice: How can I remove it entirely, in one go?
...

$ sudo apt-get purge libreoffice*

Note the asterisk at the end of libreoffice.

You can see what will get purged by 'simulating' the command with '-s:

$ sudo apt-get purge -s libreoffice*

That last will run the command without actually doing the purge, so you
can see which packages will be removed when you run the command without
'-s'. See 'man apt-get'.





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[libreoffice-users] Date Difference formula required in Calc 3.5

2012-03-22 Thread Essex Lad
I realise that I can get a date difference of days or years in Calc, but what
is needed is a way of getting a result in Years/Months/Days - any thoughts
would be very welcome

Dave H.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Date Difference formula required in Calc 3.5

2012-03-22 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 22.03.2012 19:41, Essex Lad wrote:

I realise that I can get a date difference of days or years in Calc, but what
is needed is a way of getting a result in Years/Months/Days - any thoughts
would be very welcome

Dave H.



http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/download/file.php?id=7015


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Date Difference formula required in Calc 3.5

2012-03-22 Thread Essex Lad
Thank you very much - that has solved my query
I know that other people a re asking the same question - can I send then
your file?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Date Difference formula required in Calc 3.5

2012-03-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Perhaps format the cell as a date format?  ie, if in doubt, cheat.  I'm not 
sure it will work but it's worth a try :)
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Essex Lad dwhar...@live.co.uk
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Date Difference formula required in Calc 3.5
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 22 March, 2012, 18:41

I realise that I can get a date difference of days or years in Calc, but what
is needed is a way of getting a result in Years/Months/Days - any thoughts
would be very welcome

Dave H.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Date Difference formula required in Calc 3.5

2012-03-22 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 22.03.2012 20:01, Essex Lad wrote:

Thank you very much - that has solved my query
I know that other people a re asking the same question - can I send then
your file?




That's why it is on the internet.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Date Difference formula required in Calc 3.5

2012-03-22 Thread Jay Lozier

On 03/22/2012 03:01 PM, Essex Lad wrote:

Thank you very much - that has solved my query
I know that other people a re asking the same question - can I send then
your file?
Yes you can. It is a link to an Open Office user forum available to 
everyone.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Install RPM as non-superuser

2012-03-22 Thread Reinhard
Hi Jay,

of course I know sudo, I have been using UNIX since 1987 :-) The problem is
when you have no priviliges,
e.g. your work as a contractor for a short time in some company, or
installations are forbidden on a company computer (only local
installations). And I described a local installation with user rights. It is
really necessary
to allow this!

BTW, I use OpenSuse 11.4 recently but this does not matter here.

Still another topic: With such an tgz, one can use stow
(http://www.gnu.org/software/stow/stow.html) to have a personal,
nevertheless managed installation. I know of a company using stow
exclusively.

Greetings,

Reinhard

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer: Numbering Bullets: Reduce indent for all Outilnes in the entire document

2012-03-22 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 19:21, Steve Edmonds
steve.edmo...@pt-global.com wrote:
 Hi.
 Did you apply the outline with the buttons in the tool bar or by applying a
 style.

Neither, it was done with autoformatting * characters.


 If you used the buttons, you may be stuck. If you used a style you can edit
 the style you used and all outline with that style should change.
 I have encountered this in the past and avoid those buttons, to my way of
 thinking the buttons should operate by applying a style and not by
 overloading a style.
 steve


I just discovered the List Styles and I happen to think that
overloading a style is the correct solution. If I decide to increase
the text size of the entire document, obviously I want the lists to
have their text size increased as well.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to remove Outline format?

2012-03-22 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 19:25, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Hi :)
 Thanks :)  I have passed on your kind comments to the team that works on them 
 (largely the same people that used to work on OOo docs but new people have 
 been involved with the published guides too)

 The aim is to complete the first 2 guides (The Getting Started and Writer 
 Guides) for each branch of LO and the remaining ones for the odd numbers; 
 3.3.x, 3.5.x and so on.  The plan might change later on but so far it seems 
 to be working.

 I was sorry to hear that you couldn't find what you were looking for to solve 
 the initial problem but hopefully they might help with other issues.
 Thanks and regards from
 Tom :)



I couldn't find what I was looking for by random clicking in the LO
GUI, the problem wasn't in the docs. But Brian pointed out to me where
to find the correct option in the GUI. By the way, Numbering and
Bullets is now in Chapter 3.

One thing that I do see that could be improved in the docs is the
table of contents. The ToC is written in an italic font for all
outline levels. It would be much easier to read if the top-level items
were somehow distinguished, perhaps by not being in italic.

Thanks.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: saving as docx crashes libreoffice 3.5.1 on windows 7

2012-03-22 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 20.03.2012 13:52, darwinev0lved wrote:


Advice, thoughts?
Jon




There is no technical reason why a user of LibreOffice should save a 
file in OOXML as long as Microsoft Office provides full support for 
doc/xls/ppt.
Office Open XML (OOXML) is simply a no go area. This pestilence of a 
file format has been developed to decrease the level of compatibility 
while having something with Open Office and XML in the name.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 - Java

2012-03-22 Thread Tinkerer
I have Mac 10.7.3 and Java is installed by Apple version 1.6.0_29
I have always felt it wise to stick to the Apple version concurrent with
each system.
Using Libre 3.5.2.1, I have no trouble running macros.

Tink.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mac OS X 10.7.3 - Java

2012-03-22 Thread Robson Roberto Souza Peixoto

On 22/03/2012, at 18:57, Tinkerer wrote:

 Using Libre 3.5.2.1, I have no trouble running macros.

Tinkerer, did you test java macros ? Not BeanShell.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: [Ubuntu 11.10] How to remove LibreOffice?

2012-03-22 Thread Gilles

Tom wrote
 I'm  not completely clear about what you are aiming for but this might
 neatly avoid a lot of side-issues
 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/portable/

Thank everyone. Running apt-get purge libreoffice* did seem to remove the
whole thing, although I had to remove the four icons left over in the Unity
taskbar.

I was trying to remove LibreOffice from the live ISO before attempting to
remaster it into a lighter ISO. Ubuntu + Unity is different enough that I
couldn't find Synaptic; Besides, deleting the four LibreOffice applications
through the GUI package manager didn't remove all the dependencies.

I'm 230MB lighter :-)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Mac OS X 10.7.3 - Java

2012-03-22 Thread Tinkerer
Because you mentioned Memory test, and that is a Java macro, I tried that and
it worked.
I also used CT2N, Convert Text to Numbers, and that works.

Tink.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Install RPM as non-superuser

2012-03-22 Thread Steve Edmonds

Hi.
Can you use the portable version from a USB stick.
steve

On 2012-03-23 08:56, Reinhard wrote:

Hi Jay,

of course I know sudo, I have been using UNIX since 1987 :-) The problem is
when you have no priviliges,
e.g. your work as a contractor for a short time in some company, or
installations are forbidden on a company computer (only local
installations). And I described a local installation with user rights. It is
really necessary
to allow this!

BTW, I use OpenSuse 11.4 recently but this does not matter here.

Still another topic: With such an tgz, one can use stow
(http://www.gnu.org/software/stow/stow.html) to have a personal,
nevertheless managed installation. I know of a company using stow
exclusively.

Greetings,

Reinhard

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Install RPM as non-superuser

2012-03-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It would be great if there was were a portable version or 2 for GnuLinux.  The 
portable apps version only works in Windows  i think the original poster is 
onto something with his method of installing without needing sude.
Regarsd from
Tom :)

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From: Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@pt-global.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Install RPM as non-superuser
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 23 March, 2012, 0:00

Hi.
Can you use the portable version from a USB stick.
steve

On 2012-03-23 08:56, Reinhard wrote:
 Hi Jay,

 of course I know sudo, I have been using UNIX since 1987 :-) The problem is
 when you have no priviliges,
 e.g. your work as a contractor for a short time in some company, or
 installations are forbidden on a company computer (only local
 installations). And I described a local installation with user rights. It is
 really necessary
 to allow this!

 BTW, I use OpenSuse 11.4 recently but this does not matter here.

 Still another topic: With such an tgz, one can use stow
 (http://www.gnu.org/software/stow/stow.html) to have a personal,
 nevertheless managed installation. I know of a company using stow
 exclusively.

 Greetings,

 Reinhard

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [Ubuntu 11.10] How to remove LibreOffice?

2012-03-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
AbiWord and Gnumeric are a lighter-weight equivalents of Writer and Calc.  You 
can also get big reductions by removing Evolution and using Thunderbird or the 
even smaller Claws as an email client.  You lose a lot of functionality but at 
least you get the basics.  
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Gilles codecompl...@free.fr
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: [Ubuntu 11.10] How to remove LibreOffice?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 22 March, 2012, 23:23


Tom wrote
 I'm  not completely clear about what you are aiming for but this might
 neatly avoid a lot of side-issues
 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/portable/

Thank everyone. Running apt-get purge libreoffice* did seem to remove the
whole thing, although I had to remove the four icons left over in the Unity
taskbar.

I was trying to remove LibreOffice from the live ISO before attempting to
remaster it into a lighter ISO. Ubuntu + Unity is different enough that I
couldn't find Synaptic; Besides, deleting the four LibreOffice applications
through the GUI package manager didn't remove all the dependencies.

I'm 230MB lighter :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mac OS X 10.7.3 - Java

2012-03-22 Thread Robson Roberto Souza Peixoto
I try to execute the command:

$ soffice 
vnd.sun.star.script:MemoryUsage.MemoryUsage.updateMemoryUsage?language=Javalocation=share

but a get this error: Message: The script language Java is not supported

And my Java are active: Apple Inc. 1.6.0_29

Robinho

On 22/03/2012, at 20:48, Tinkerer wrote:

 Because you mentioned Memory test, and that is a Java macro, I tried that and
 it worked.
 I also used CT2N, Convert Text to Numbers, and that works.
 
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