[libreoffice-users] Re: 64 bit

2013-11-09 Thread Pedro
Hola Miguel Ángel, all mariosv wrote So that's not my logic. Yes, I understood your position. I'm sorry if it wasn't clear. mariosv wrote My perception of reading here and there, it is not only compile with a 64 bits tool matter, but a large code adaptation. I think in some applications

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 64 bit

2013-11-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-08 5:28 PM, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote: I know and I agree, Miguel. I just don't agree with the logic don't ask for a 64bit version because it's very time consuming and expensive and you don't need it anyway. Why do Linux and Mac people need it more than Windows people? They

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 64 bit

2013-11-09 Thread Carlo Strata
Hi Kind People! :-) I have already written in the past about win64 builds. And now, after reading this interesting entire thread I think: - I completely agree that it is a first priority to complete the Calc (LibreOffice?) code rewrite and modernization; - but (!!!) just after this further

[libreoffice-users] Shall we waste twelve more years promoting Free office suites instead of...

2013-11-09 Thread M. Fioretti
Twelve (TWELVE!!!) years ago I asked OpenOffice users “Are you advocating OO correctly.. Continues on my blog: http://stop.zona-m.net/2013/11/shall-we-waste-twelve-more-years-promoting-free-office-suites-instead-of-open-office-formats/ Feedback very welcome, of course! Marco -- To

Re: [libreoffice-users] Shall we waste twelve more years promoting Free office suites instead of...

2013-11-09 Thread Paul
Interesting article, and indeed it is true that the file format is the most important aspect of the office suite debate, but I think you are a little naive in your assumption that LO should stop doing any other type of marketing. Firstly, the question of a truly open and compatible format *is*

[libreoffice-users] Re: Shall we waste twelve more years promoting Free office suites instead of...

2013-11-09 Thread Urmas
M. Fioretti: ...shall-we-waste-twelve-more-years-promoting-free-office-suites-instead-of-open-office-formats/ There's no such thing as 'open format'. Any format can only slavishly describe its reference implementation. There is no reference implementation for ODF, except a monstrous

Re: [libreoffice-users] Shall we waste twelve more years promoting Free office suites instead of...

2013-11-09 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
On 11/09/2013 12:59 PM, M. Fioretti wrote: Twelve (TWELVE!!!) years ago I asked OpenOffice users “Are you advocating OO correctly.. Continues on my blog: http://stop.zona-m.net/2013/11/shall-we-waste-twelve-more-years-promoting-free-office-suites-instead-of-open-office-formats/ Feedback

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Shall we waste twelve more years promoting Free office suites instead of...

2013-11-09 Thread Paul
Don't worry, you can safely ignore Urmas, he's a known troll around these parts; his bias is strongly (and probably paid for by) MS. On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 02:33:04 +0700 Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: M. Fioretti:

[libreoffice-users] Re: Shall we waste twelve more years promoting Free office suites instead of...

2013-11-09 Thread Urmas
Paul: Don't worry, you can safely ignore Urmas, he's a known troll around these parts; You're welcome to name a full reference implementation of ODF format not using the OO.o/Staroffice code. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

[libreoffice-users] Re: Shall we waste twelve more years promoting Free office suites instead of...

2013-11-09 Thread Urmas
Paul: ...to do what some company (like Microsoft) thinks you should be able to do, and only if you pay them very well, open source software believes that everybody should be able to do whatever they want. That's the very nature of Open Source: you have the source, change it if you need to. Oh

[libreoffice-users] Improvement i Last used documents

2013-11-09 Thread Leif Burstroem
It would be nice if the listing of last used document was split up so when I use writer I will only get the last used writer documents and when I use calc I will only get the calc documents. Will this be possible to achive? Best regards Leif Burstrom Sweden -- To unsubscribe e-mail to:

Re: [libreoffice-users] Shall we waste twelve more years promoting Free office suites instead of...

2013-11-09 Thread Jay Lozier
On Sat, 2013-11-09 at 14:33 -0500, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: On 11/09/2013 12:59 PM, M. Fioretti wrote: Twelve (TWELVE!!!) years ago I asked OpenOffice users “Are you advocating OO correctly.. Continues on my blog:

[libreoffice-users] Re: Improvement i Last used documents

2013-11-09 Thread Urmas
Leif Burstroem: It would be nice if the listing of last used document was split up so when I use writer I will only get the last used writer documents... I recall there was a discussion about this and the decision was to keep it as it is now. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to:

Re: [libreoffice-users] Shall we waste twelve more years promoting Free office suites instead of...

2013-11-09 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 21:25:19 PM +0200, Paul wrote: Interesting article, and indeed it is true that the file format is the most important aspect of the office suite debate, but I think you are a little naive in your assumption that LO should stop doing any other type of marketing. Hi Paul,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Shall we waste twelve more years promoting Free office suites instead of...

2013-11-09 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 15:20:49 PM -0500, Jay Lozier wrote: On Sat, 2013-11-09 at 14:33 -0500, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: There are two different topics here. 1 - Open File Formats - ODF 2 - Free and Open Source Software office suites - LO and OOo/AOO Kracked_P_P that is true. But

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Shall we waste twelve more years promoting Free office suites instead of...

2013-11-09 Thread Paul
As far as I can gather, neither OASIS nor the ODF Technical Committee require a reference implementation, so none has been named. I don't know about the ISO standard, but I would assume this applies there too. That said, OO.o/LO would be considered by most as the reference implementation. As a

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Improvement i Last used documents

2013-11-09 Thread Kolbjørn Stuestøl
Den 09.11.2013 21:27, skreiv Urmas: Leif Burstroem: It would be nice if the listing of last used document was split up so when I use writer I will only get the last used writer documents... I recall there was a discussion about this and the decision was to keep it as it is now Why? I would

Re: [libreoffice-users] Shall we waste twelve more years promoting Free office suites instead of...

2013-11-09 Thread Paul
On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 21:39:00 +0100 M. Fioretti mfiore...@nexaima.net wrote: Firstly, the question of a truly open and compatible format *is* used when discussing the problems with MSO. Secondly, we are so few, that... these are the SAME answers that ruled the scene in 2001. My point is

[libreoffice-users] Re: Shall we waste twelve more years promoting Free office suites instead of...

2013-11-09 Thread Pedro
Two points: 1) LibreOffice only started embedding fonts in ODF files in version 4.1 (released in July 2013); MS Office files have had this ability for YEARS. In my opinion ODF files are NOW starting to be useful as an editable file exchange format. 2) Advocating ignoring MS files only makes

[libreoffice-users] Re: Shall we waste twelve more years promoting Free office suites instead of...

2013-11-09 Thread Pedro
Jay Lozier wrote Also, using ODF formats avoids the tweaking MS apparently does with their formats with each new release. I disagree. ODF has the same problem. That is why LO has an option to save in ODF 1.0/1.1 or 1.2 and even 1.2 extended. ODF has EXACTLY the same problem that accuses DOCX

Re: [libreoffice-users] major issues

2013-11-09 Thread e-letter
On 08/11/2013, Bekor Adams bekorad...@gmail.com wrote: Hello when i try to save a invoice as *Microsoft excel*https://www.google.com/search?biw=1440bih=772q=microsoft+excelspell=1sa=Xpsj=1ei=gxR5UvXTC_PTsASh1YHwBAved=0CCgQvwUoAA2007/2010 document it changes it to this below . I have looked

[libreoffice-users] Re: 64 bit

2013-11-09 Thread Pedro
Tanstaafl wrote The reason there is none is because it is *hard* to do - *very* hard - and because the benefit is so little, it isn't a high priority. Are you a developer? Hard to very hard? So all FLOSS projects that have a 64bit build are maintained by geniuses? If the benefit was so

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Shall we waste twelve more years promoting Free office suites instead of...

2013-11-09 Thread Paul
On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 14:06:44 -0800 (PST) Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote: 2) Advocating ignoring MS files only makes sense on a personal basis. Por companies that is absurd. Maybe academia could start that movement but it will take time before it reaches the companies... Actually, it makes lots

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Shall we waste twelve more years promoting Free office suites instead of...

2013-11-09 Thread Steve Gruspier
I believe that companies should use open formats, but at this point in time I have never seen a company that has moved from the standard MSO formats. This is likely because the majority has not changed to open formats. Once more people adopt using open formats, then we will likely see a

Re: [libreoffice-users] Shall we waste twelve more years promoting Free office suites instead of...

2013-11-09 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 23:29:01 PM +0200, Paul wrote: Also, I don't think the current situation could have been any better, no matter what argument we used. The fact that it is changing at all is testimony to our dedication in spreading all the good arguments for Open Source and ODF. This is,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Shall we waste twelve more years promoting Free office suites instead of...

2013-11-09 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 14:06:44 PM -0800, Pedro wrote: Two points: 1) LibreOffice only started embedding fonts in ODF files in version 4.1 (released in July 2013); MS Office files have had this ability for YEARS. In my opinion ODF files are NOW starting to be useful as an editable file

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Shall we waste twelve more years promoting Free office suites instead of...

2013-11-09 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 00:38:21 AM +0200, Paul wrote: This is something we should be advocating (as loudly as possible, even), but we should be aware of the realities, and advocating it as a sane option, not trying to force it down peoples throats. When a public administration demands that you

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Shall we waste twelve more years promoting Free office suites instead of...

2013-11-09 Thread M. Fioretti
On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 14:21:43 PM -0800, Pedro wrote: The ONLY difference is... can you generate MS Office documents automatically with just a few lines of code as in http://freesoftware.zona-m.net/tag/odf-scripting ? I'm sorry to break this idealism about ODF's perfection... I explicitly say

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Shall we waste twelve more years promoting Free office suites instead of...

2013-11-09 Thread Jay Lozier
On Sat, 2013-11-09 at 14:06 -0800, Pedro wrote: Two points: 1) LibreOffice only started embedding fonts in ODF files in version 4.1 (released in July 2013); MS Office files have had this ability for YEARS. In my opinion ODF files are NOW starting to be useful as an editable file exchange

[libreoffice-users] Re: major issues

2013-11-09 Thread Tom
Hi :) I was sent the files in a private email and just took out the name and addresses in the 2 invoices although i think they were fictional examples too. -version2.ods http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4082304/-version2.ods Hyannis_Cafe_Inv._#_1029converted0-version2.xlsx

Re: [libreoffice-users] 2 questions related to Base Design Form

2013-11-09 Thread Girvin Herr
On 11/06/2013 07:54 PM, Scott Castaline wrote: In Libreoffice Base The Form Design window, I was trying to get it where the cursor starts in the first field. Right now it is in the top left corner at start up (data entry) like it is when I go into form edit mode. In exploring ways to do this

[libreoffice-users] Re: major issues

2013-11-09 Thread Urmas
e-letter: If you want to save an invoice in m$ format, why have you not bought a legal copy of m$? BIFF is a Microsoft format now? What an idiot. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

Re: [libreoffice-users] 2 questions related to Base Design Form

2013-11-09 Thread Scott Castaline
I wound up blowing off my original form and recreated it. The Automatic Control Focus function then behaved the way it should leaving the form navigation controls active. So I may have accidentlly changed something to cause my problem. For some reason Activation Order does not fix the starting

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Shall we waste twelve more years promoting Free office suites instead of...

2013-11-09 Thread Dale Erwin
If everyone knows he's a troll why do so many bother responding in such great lengths. Why bother feeding the troll. Everyone knows this, but still so many feel obligated to defend. If you don't feed trolls, they go away. -- Dale Erwin Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03 Magdalena del Mar,

[libreoffice-users] Subject: DRM books

2013-11-09 Thread Daniel
Is there an extension in LO in order to read DRM ebooks? Thanks Daniel -- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: