[libreoffice-users] UPDATE: looking for sdw-compatible, Linux version of Libre Office

2013-12-16 Thread M. Fioretti
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 09:09:11 AM +0100, Marco Fioretti wrote:

 The document converter finds the files, then crashes with this
 error:
 
 Basic Runtime error.
 An exception occurred.
 Type:com.sun.star.uno.RuntimeException
 Message: [msci_uno bridge error] unexpected C++ exception occured!.

just found out that disabling the generation of a log file makes this
error disappear and the conversion terminate (AFAICT, after opening
some randomly chosen converted files) successfully. Pointers to a
Linux version and/or how to fix that bug still welcome, in case I need
to do this again...

 any pointer to a linux version of lo 3.3, which hopefully may not have
 that problem, and in any case would be easier to work with (editing
 macros rendered with wine's idea of libreoffice fonts = terrible) is
 very welcome. Ditto for tips on how to fix that macro by hand.
 
   thanks,
   Marco
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[libreoffice-users] looking for sdw-compatible, Linux version of Libre Office

2013-12-16 Thread M. Fioretti

Greetings,
I need to convert some old starwriter files (.sdw, sdd, .sdc extensions)

I understand the solution consists of temporarily installing (or
running off an usb key) the last version of LO that supported those
formats. However, the only such version I have found so far is the one
for Windows at
http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/3.3.4.1/portable/

That version only works through wine, which is annoying but bearable
for a one-time task, but above all doesn't work. The document
converter finds the files, then crashes with this error:

Basic Runtime error.
An exception occurred.
Type:com.sun.star.uno.RuntimeException
Message: [msci_uno bridge error] unexpected C++ exception occured!.

any pointer to a linux version of lo 3.3, which hopefully may not have
that problem, and in any case would be easier to work with (editing
macros rendered with wine's idea of libreoffice fonts = terrible) is
very welcome. Ditto for tips on how to fix that macro by hand.

  thanks,
  Marco
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Re: [libreoffice-users] looking for sdw-compatible, Linux version of Libre Office

2013-12-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Does anyone know of an Extension that can add back this support for
the pre-ODF formats?

Is it worth posting a 'big-report' asking the devs if any of them
could make such an Extension?
Regards from
Tom :)

On 16 December 2013 08:09, M. Fioretti mfiore...@nexaima.net wrote:

 Greetings,
 I need to convert some old starwriter files (.sdw, sdd, .sdc extensions)

 I understand the solution consists of temporarily installing (or
 running off an usb key) the last version of LO that supported those
 formats. However, the only such version I have found so far is the one
 for Windows at
 http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/3.3.4.1/portable/

 That version only works through wine, which is annoying but bearable
 for a one-time task, but above all doesn't work. The document
 converter finds the files, then crashes with this error:

 Basic Runtime error.
 An exception occurred.
 Type:com.sun.star.uno.RuntimeException
 Message: [msci_uno bridge error] unexpected C++ exception occured!.

 any pointer to a linux version of lo 3.3, which hopefully may not have
 that problem, and in any case would be easier to work with (editing
 macros rendered with wine's idea of libreoffice fonts = terrible) is
 very welcome. Ditto for tips on how to fix that macro by hand.

   thanks,
   Marco
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Re: [libreoffice-users] looking for sdw-compatible, Linux version of Libre Office

2013-12-16 Thread M. Fioretti
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 08:50:26 AM +, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Does anyone know of an Extension that can add back this support for
 the pre-ODF formats?

an actual extension means taking that old source code and
remaking/maintaining it compatible with all the rest of the current,
ever-evolving LO code. IIUC the wish to NOT have to do that anymore is
exactly the reason why that compatibility was dropped, so that's a dead end.

But it isn't necessary. I'd settle without any second thought for a
stand-alone, single-purpose converter:

take lo 3.3.4.1,

remove EVERYTHING, starting from the complete user interface, except
all and only the code that makes the conversion wizard window and its
buttons/fields/checkboxes, and what's needed to run from the command
line

only keep what's left compilable/installable on Linux, Windows,
whatever.

Marco

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[libreoffice-users] Internet pages

2013-12-16 Thread rncorreia


Hello
Some internet pages (namely those of wikipedia) de-configure when  
pasting onto a text document. This typically happens with formulae. Is  
there any way around the problem?

Regards, Rui C.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3

2013-12-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think the example might not have been a good one but the point was
valid.  There are a ton of features that almost no-one will ever use
and some that almost no-one would miss.  On the other hand sometimes
people stumble onto a feature they would never have thought about and
from then on find it immensely useful.

With MS Office it's been postulated that around 80% of the features
almost never get used.  Of the remaining 20% some never gets used by
some people and other parts never (or rarely) get used by others.  I'm
not sure if there has been a formal study to prove it or to get
precise percentages.  From what i see around me in most offices i
would say that it's more like 95% never gets used until people have
been on training courses and maybe start making more use of less
obvious features.

I am not sure what the percentages would be for LibreOffice or
OpenOffice but the idea of having Extensions to keep obscure
functionality available but out of the way of most people seems a
brilliant way of handling it and enables companies to have their
special in-house extras less tied to a single instance of a single
program.

Hmmm, all this is wy off-topic for this thread though!
Regards from
Tom :)




On 16 December 2013 02:13, Kracked_P_P---webmaster
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
 On 12/15/2013 08:58 PM, som wrote:

 On Sun, 15/12/13, Anton anto...@gmx.de wrote:

   Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3
   To: users@global.libreoffice.org
   Date: Sunday, 15 December, 2013, 3:19 AM
 The actual computer magazine c't
   compared
   OpenOffice and LibreOffice and come to the
   result that the new versions of LibreOffice (4.1.x) had
   more features than OpenOffice.
   (but often unneeded like the work counting ... never
   understodd who needs
   such features I never was asked how many words a my document
   contains)

 --snip--

 actually i am very glad to the devs for the word count feature. most of
 the indexed journals (eg, lancet, bmj, nje etc) specifically mention the
 number of words your document should contain. e.g, abstract of the article
 should be within 300 words; original article 3000 words and like that. so,
 word counting feature is definitely not unneeded for me!

 regards,


 I know of a few writers and an editor.  Having to have access to a word
 count option could really help.  We pay you for 3,500 words and you give up
 3,450 - not good, not good.  Of course then you use the word count to help
 with the final book size.  An average of 300 words per page for a hard cover
 and between 260 and 350 pages in the book is a good guide, but having a true
 word count would be better. Your manuscript almost never will have the same
 page, paragraph, and text formating as the finalized book from the
 publisher.  Having every tool that helps you write in the format and the
 size that you editor and publisher wants/needs can be very important for a
 beginning author.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc 4.1.3.2 410 crashes on Fedora 19

2013-12-16 Thread rost52

Thanks Tom for clarification.
R
On 2013-12-14 00:43, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Sorry, i thought you were using a GnuLinux.  Windows doesn't have
that sort of feature.

Perhaps just try reinstalling a newer version of LibreOffice instead?
Let us know how that goes, especially if any error messages pop-up
Apols and regards from
Tom :)

On 13 December 2013 02:47, rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de wrote:

Hi Tom, thanks for the hint but could you please help me on how I have to do
what your proposed. My IT knowledge seems to be insufficient.

First maybe let me know what a package manager is and how to start it in XP.

R

On 2013-12-11 19:03, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Maybe a dependancy problem somewhere?  Can you get one of your package
managers to fix broken packages or check for errors?
Regards from
Tom :)

On 10 December 2013 15:43, rost52 bugquestcon...@online.de wrote:

Hi , I observed crashes of v4.1.3.2 on XP/SP3 when opening certain calc
files. I could not trace the cause of the problem. Changing of the user
profile did not help.
Additionally I observed crashes when I changed page formats in the format
window (F11). Changing to default or customized page formats caused
Writer
to crash.

I had to give up 4.1.3.2 and went back 4.0.6 just. In 4.0.6 I don't
observe
any of these above problems. But I miss a few new features of 4.1.3.2...

On 2013-12-06 10:57, Peter Langfelder wrote:

Hi all,

curious if anyone else noticed this - after last update a few days ago
that also updated libreoffice, calc crashes upon startup or when
opening documents. That is, starting libreoffice without any arguments
works, but starting a new spreadsheet or opening a spreadsheet file
(.ods) or running calc from command line crashes. The crash does not
produce any useful debugging information, I only get a message saying

[1]+  Exit 135libreoffice

and ABRT reports signal 7 (SIGBUS). I wonder whether this is unique to
my machine or whether others can also observe it. I am running a fully
updated Fedora 19,

$ uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 3.11.9-200.fc19.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Nov 20
21:22:24 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

and libreoffice --version reports

LibreOffice 4.1.3.2 410(Build:2)


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[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 4.1.4.2 win32 seems to have a dotted right Start Screen (Draw, Database, ... side)

2013-12-16 Thread Carlo Strata

Hi Everyone,

yesterday afternoon I install LibreOffice 4.1.4.2 win32 (ITA guied and 
ITA local help) on my Windows 8.1 (64 bit, updated, ITA guied, AMD 
Catalyst 13.9, A8 CPU + AMA dual graphics).


It seems to have a dotted _right_ Start Screen (Draw, Database, ... 
side): if you take a look with attention you will see a regular dotted 
mesh. Its color is only slightly clearer than the central background.


I haven't seen at all it in the past time...: is it correct or there 
were some bug, some runout?


If you need I could attach the snapshot in Nabble...

Have a nice day,

Carlo

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: saving documents written in Thai

2013-12-16 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster


Part of this Font FAQ was discussed in another thread.

It would be a very good idea to have the language settings 
information, and the associated fonts, listed in a wiki page [for now] 
so our users who use both Latin and non-Latin based languages would have 
an easier time setting up their package for those languages.


There was a discussion of adding more fonts to the install of LO. It was 
suggested that there could be a section/page[s] somewhere showing a list 
of good free fonts that has the needed languages and how to use them 
[i.e. set up to use them] with LO to write documents in those languages.


There are many fonts out there that work well for Thai and other 
non-Latin based writings, but sometimes it may be difficult for our 
users to find the proper fonts and set up LO to use them for their 
documents.  Having a list of free fonts and the languages they support 
[graph or table] could be very helpful to some of our users.


Also, having an explanation on how to set up the language options in LO 
would be a very good idea at the top of such a list of fonts.  This 
thread seems to indicate that more work in needed to make the setup of 
different non-Latin based languages within an LO install is needed.  How 
do I get my document to work with the language and be about to edit and 
print the document correctly using that language.


Having the list of fonts that include the Thai language scripts/glyphs 
hopefully was helpful to the user.  If we could expand the list into 
some type of table where the rows are the free fonts [maybe paid one 
that came with the OS] and the columns are the languages supported 
within the fonts, it may help guide our user to which fonts work well 
for which languages.


If you are a English and French speaking person that is learning a 
non-Latin based language, having a list of fonts that support that 
language is a needed item.


To be honest, I do not use any other language but my native English.  
But if we get LO in schools/colleges, the students will need to use LO 
to write in other Latin and non-Latin based languages, while using 
English for the menus.  Having both simple and detailed information on 
how to set up LO to support all of these languages would be very 
helpful.  Having a documentation, like the solution in this thread, 
showing the user how to set up a non-Latin based language to be used by 
the user can be very important to the user.   It seems that the current 
documentation may not be where it is needed, if this thread is any 
indication. But we can always make it better within the wiki page 
environment.





On 12/16/2013 06:27 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Would that 1st post by CVAlkan be good for the wiki?  Where?  In the Faq?
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq

Should we forwards that post to the Documentation Team?
Regards from
Tom :)



On 16 December 2013 02:05, Kracked_P_P---webmaster
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

On 12/15/2013 06:07 PM, Dale Erwin wrote:

On 12/15/2013 10:16 AM, CVAlkan wrote:

Dale:

To type and save documents in both Thai and English, which I do quite
successfully with LibreOffice and several other products, you need to
understand a few things that aren't at all obvious from the
documentation.
At the end, I'll suggest an easy way to handle multi-lingual documents.

Since your difficulty is with LibreOffice Writer, let's start there. and
look at a couple things:

Open a new blank document. First, go to Format | Character and take a
look
at the Font tab. In the top section, titled Western text font you will
see
the font that is currently active.

The next two sections (Asian text font and CTL font) are key to
understand what's going on.

If your base font (the one listed in the top section) is NOT a Unicode
font,
or if it is a Unicode font that doesn't contain Thai characters, you will
see the font that LibreOffice - in a not always successful attempt to be
helpful - uses as substitutes when you type in a particular character.

What happens, therefore, is that Libre Writer gives you the impression
that
all is wonderful even though it is doing substitutions behind your back.
In
itself a good thing, but sometimes leads to confusion.

It also isn't very clear that Asian text font is NOT what you use for
your
Thai substitutions. Aside from the fact that Thai is actually an
Indo-European language, the Asian text font section seems to be only
applicable to languages that use ideographs (i.e. little pictures) even
if
they have alphabetic characters. It also relates to languages that are
written vertically, although I'm not too sure about that as I don't speak
Chinese, Korean, Japanese and similar languages.

Now look at the CTL font section. What you want to do is to pick a font
that you know supports Thai, and choose it in the CTL font section as a
substitute. The font is listed first, then the size stuff, and then under
Language, you would choose Thai to indicate which group of characters
within
the font 

[libreoffice-users] I love LO 4.1.3.2

2013-12-16 Thread Walther Koehler
Hi,

Setting up a new wheezy system and copying the LO-user-dir in my home 
directory, downloading the actual version of LO from the ocfficial place, I 
could start LO and run it as I was used to it. No key changes, no bugs, no 
nasty change  in design etc. Even macros, dictionaries, all was working 
right as expected. Thats the way I love it.

(In contrast to wheezy, where fundamental packages simply disappeared 
(capisuite), weird pop ups, new designs (from right to left, .. I still have 
a lot of work to do, until its my system again.

Walther 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: saving documents written in Thai

2013-12-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Would that 1st post by CVAlkan be good for the wiki?  Where?  In the Faq?
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq

Should we forwards that post to the Documentation Team?
Regards from
Tom :)



On 16 December 2013 02:05, Kracked_P_P---webmaster
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
 On 12/15/2013 06:07 PM, Dale Erwin wrote:

 On 12/15/2013 10:16 AM, CVAlkan wrote:

 Dale:

 To type and save documents in both Thai and English, which I do quite
 successfully with LibreOffice and several other products, you need to
 understand a few things that aren't at all obvious from the
 documentation.
 At the end, I'll suggest an easy way to handle multi-lingual documents.

 Since your difficulty is with LibreOffice Writer, let's start there. and
 look at a couple things:

 Open a new blank document. First, go to Format | Character and take a
 look
 at the Font tab. In the top section, titled Western text font you will
 see
 the font that is currently active.

 The next two sections (Asian text font and CTL font) are key to
 understand what's going on.

 If your base font (the one listed in the top section) is NOT a Unicode
 font,
 or if it is a Unicode font that doesn't contain Thai characters, you will
 see the font that LibreOffice - in a not always successful attempt to be
 helpful - uses as substitutes when you type in a particular character.

 What happens, therefore, is that Libre Writer gives you the impression
 that
 all is wonderful even though it is doing substitutions behind your back.
 In
 itself a good thing, but sometimes leads to confusion.

 It also isn't very clear that Asian text font is NOT what you use for
 your
 Thai substitutions. Aside from the fact that Thai is actually an
 Indo-European language, the Asian text font section seems to be only
 applicable to languages that use ideographs (i.e. little pictures) even
 if
 they have alphabetic characters. It also relates to languages that are
 written vertically, although I'm not too sure about that as I don't speak
 Chinese, Korean, Japanese and similar languages.

 Now look at the CTL font section. What you want to do is to pick a font
 that you know supports Thai, and choose it in the CTL font section as a
 substitute. The font is listed first, then the size stuff, and then under
 Language, you would choose Thai to indicate which group of characters
 within
 the font are to be used.

 A CTL font is what's used for substitutions when you are using an Input
 Method to type on the keyboard. Since there are several of these in use
 it's hard to tell you anything specific, but you've probably already
 solved
 that, since I presume you do some typing in English, hit some switch
 command, type a little Thai, then use the switch command to get back to
 English.

 By the way, the default you will often see under CTL font is one of the
 Hindi fonts (I presume because of Thai's ancient relation to Indian
 languages) - in Ubuntu, for instance, it is almost always Lohit Hindi -
 a
 font that is part of the Ubuntu installation.

 I used Format | Character as an example to make the explanation more
 clear;
 obviously there are similar settings in various Paragraph and Style
 settings
 as well, and they all work the same.

 BUT - if you want to make things really simple, you could simply use a
 font
 that has both English and Thai characters present, so no substitutions
 need
 to take place. Unfortunately there isn't a great variety of really good
 looking fonts (I'll list some below), but the advantage is that there are
 no
 substitutions, and the font sizes are matched more closely than would be
 the
 case with two different fonts. This is a matter of taste of course,
 particularly with balancing Thai and English, since Thai nees room above
 and
 below the characters for the various superscript and subscript vowels,
 tone
 marks, and such things. (these same issues are not unique to Thai of
 course
 - you'll run into them in both Hebrew and Arabic for instance).

 So, here are my (so far) favorite combination fonts for easily mixing
 Thai
 and English in the same document:

 Free Serif (Serif)
 Gentium Basic (Serif)  xxx
 Gentium Book (Serif)  xxx
 Norasi (Serif)
 Kinnari (Serif)
 Linux Libertine (developed for Linux, but works in Win)
 Linux Biolinium (ditto)
 Sawasdee  (go figure...) (light Sans Serif)
 Droid Sans Thai (Sans Serif)
 Garuda (Sans Serif)
 Loma (Sans Serif)
 Umpush (Sans Serif)
 Waree (Sans Serif)
 Purisa (informal handwriting style)
 Tlwg Typist (mono typewriter)

 Obviously if there are others who use both Thai and English, I'd be
 interested in any of your favorite fonts.

 As for moving your document to other machines, Libre Office now has the
 ability in some versions to embed the fonts in the document file itself,
 but
 I'm not sure if all versions and all platforms can utilize the embedded
 fonts yet. (can anyone help here???)

 I hope this helps you in your search.

 -- Frank


 Many thanks for your reply.  At last someone who knows 

[libreoffice-users] renaming the User Profile

2013-12-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I have just been looking at Firefox's online help system and noticed
they have a neat way of letting pointclick users reset their
UserProfile easily.  Of course our wiki-page is better in some ways
because it helps people figure out how to reinstate (parts of) their
profile if that turns out to be fine after all.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/what-happened-to-the-file-edit-and-view-menus?esab=as=Howto+view+html+codingr=0as=s

Does anyone want to post that as a feature request?
Regards from
Tom :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3

2013-12-16 Thread Dr. R. O. Stapf - the service institute japan
Hi Tom,Thanks for the hint, I will do with the 4.1.4 version which is
  scheduled to be released this week.RPresidentthe service institute 
japan... the service enhancement companywww.tsij.org
On 2013-12-14 00:46, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Ahh, i think just go for a standard normal reinstall of 4.1.3.  maybe
re-download the installer to make sure that isn't the problem
Regards from
Tom :)


On 13 December 2013 02:42, rost52bugquestcontri@online.dewrote:The fact that I 
had to downgrade from 4.2.3.2 to 4.0.6 due to bugs and
Nino's proposal to install 2 versions parallel made my thinking that it
would be very efficient to have the install wiazerd modify to use it to
replace a version or install it parallel to an existing one.


I am just hesitant to go trough the work of installing LibO through the
command line.


In my case I would install 4.0.6 (stable) and 4.1.3.2 (with some nasty bugs
for me but some interesting features as well). With 2 versions I also could
do easy testing for bug reports.


Is there interest/support for having the installed wizard modified to enable
parallel installations?


On 2013-12-12 23:07, Nino Novak wrote:Am 12.12.2013 09:38, schrieb Kunwar 
Shivpal Singh:What would happen if I download LO 3.5.7 (already started it from 
Source
Forge. Will there be a clash between the 2 versions? Will LO 4.1.3.2
allow me to install the older version LO 3.5.7?Kunwar, if it is of interest for 
you: you can install both versions in
parallel - seehttps://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallelRegards,
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Re: [libreoffice-users] help

2013-12-16 Thread Niklas Johansson

Hi Markus

Sorry to hear that you are having problems with LibreOffice. There are 
quite a few issues surrounding combo boxes, list boxes and pop up 
buttons in LibreOffice. Even though the program has had some great 
improvements in the last year issues with list boxes and pop up buttons 
still remain to be fixed.


I will try to guide you through a few steps in a hope that you at least 
can get something exported.

I suppose it is the odt2braille extension your talking about?

Go to File - Export to braille
Press tab three times to get to the first pop-up button
Press the down arrow twice to select PEF format (sorry VoiceOver does 
not announce anything but the PEF is last). At least for me the 
extension seems to save my last setting. Also note that PEF seems to be 
the only of the three available choices that disables the next pop-up 
button so if pressing tab takes you to a check box then you have 
selected the correct format.


The rest of the settings in this dialog should be accessible from the 
VoiceOver-cursor.


Let us know if you can make it work. I'm getting some exception with 
liblouisxml that I haven't looked into but that might be something with 
my specific setup.


Let's hope that the improvements to Windows accessibility, that is 
currently going on within the project, will rub off on the accessibility 
improvements for other platforms as well.


Regards,
Niklas Johansson



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels

2013-12-16 Thread Niklas Johansson
So I tried to look in to this and checked the measurements that I get 
when I create the labels and they seem to be correct. Of course it is 
like Virgil said there is no space before the text whereas Word ads 
0,07 both to the left and the right of the text. You can easily mimic 
that distance by modifying the Default Style to add an Indent 
Before/After text of 0,07.


Could you create a simple label document and mail it to me directly? 
Just so that I can check if you do not get different measurements the me.


Sorry for not being able to get back to you sooner.

Regards,
Niklas Johansson

Jeff Hahn skrev 2013-12-06 00:37:

I use LO 4.1.3 and Windows 7.  I should repeat that in my case the first 2 
columns print properly (although the print starts right at the edge of the 
label).  It is only the third (right) column that is off.

Jeff Hahn


From: cuyfa...@hotmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 12:31:46 -0500

I just noticed this thread, and I have to chime in that, the last time I
tried to create labels, I too noticed that the LO Avery 5160 template
alignment was off. I had to adjust the contents of every cell. At that time,
I was still using LO 3.5.x. I have not yet tried since upgrading to the
4.x.x range.

At the time, I just installed Apache OO, as its template worked properly.

If I recall correctly, I think there may have been other label templates
online as extensions that worked better than LO's label template.

Virgil

-Original Message-
From: Niklas Johansson
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 12:20 PM
To: Jeff Hahn ; users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels

So I looked at the configuration in LibreOffice 4.0.6 and LibreOffice
4.2 beta-version and the configuration seems to be correct. I even
compared it to the result that I get in Word 2013 for the same label
(sorry for not thinking about doing that earlier). So before I put
anymore time into this it would be good to know what version of
LibreOffice you used when you created the labels?

Niklas Johansson

Jeff Hahn skrev 2013-12-05 17:22:

I think the configuration in the wizard may be wrong.  The Avery 5160 has
30 labels on a 8.5 x 11 sheet each measuring 1 x 2 5/8.  It is
probably one of the most common labels used so I am surprised the issue
hasn't previously been raised.  As I indicated in my email, I didn't have
any problem when I switched to Word so I am reasonably confident the issue
is not related to my printer.

Jeff Hahn



Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 17:04:24 +0100
From: sleeping.pil...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels

Hi Jeff

Is the issue that you used lable sheets of the type Avery 5160 and that
the preconfiguration for these lables were wrong?
I think that I remember reading some issues with the label

functionality

(File - New - Label) in an earlier version of LibreOffice that might
or might not be fixed in newer versions. What version of LibreOffice

did

you use?

Do you have any specifications for the measurements of these specific
labels so I can do a quick review if there seems to be any issues there?

Note also that you can tweak the measurements under the Format tab of
the Labels-dialog. Not that you should need to if you use labels that
has a preset configuration.

Kind regards,
Niklas Johansson

Jeff Hahn wrote 2013-12-04 16:41:



I tried to do my labels for Christmas
cards using LO's mail merge. I was able to create the data base and
print without difficulty. Unfortunately, the entire third column

was not

properly spaced and printed outside of the label, a couple of

spaces to the left. The first two columns were they were supposed to be. I
was using standard

configuration for Avery 5160. I finally gave up created the labels
with Excel and Word.




I am not sure where to send an email to
suggest that the matter be looked into so I am sending this
information to this list with the hope the matter will be picked for
investigation. Also, although I suspect it has been suggested
before, it would be nice to be able to do a mail merge directly from
the spreadsheet without creating a database file.




Jeff Hahn




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Internet pages

2013-12-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Sorry!  I'm sending this back to the list because i'm not sure if my
answer will work and your reply didn't look private or anything.

So is it possible to copypaste the formulae separately into the Math
rather than the Writer module/app/program?  Are the formulae written
or are they images/photos on the web-pages?
Regards from
Tom :)


On 16 December 2013 13:20,  rncorr...@sapo.pt wrote:
 Hello again
 Sorry, what I was trying to tell is that text pastes all right (and I can
 give it the format I want) but scientific formulae (if in a different format
 from the original text) are erased or obliterated when pasting, so that they
 seem to be not recognized.
 Anyway, thanks.
 RuiC.


 Quoting Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com:

 Hi :)
 If you use
 Ctrl Shift v
 then you can choose unformatted text to remove ALL formatting.

 It is the opposite of what you were asking but has the advantage of
 being consistent with all.  The idea would be to then apply your own
 styles to make the pages appear consistent with each other.  It's a
 good way to harvest information in usable reports.

 However you were asking the exact opposite thing!  ie how to ensure
 you RETAIN formatting from a web-page!  Either way around copyright is
 a potential issue that you might need to  consider but that is a
 side-issue to your question
 Apols and regards from
 Tom :)




 On 16 December 2013 10:33,  rncorr...@sapo.pt wrote:


 Hello
 Some internet pages (namely those of wikipedia) de-configure when pasting
 onto a text document. This typically happens with formulae. Is there any
 way
 around the problem?
 Regards, Rui C.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.1.4.2 win32 seems to have a dotted right Start Screen (Draw, Database, ... side)

2013-12-16 Thread carlo.strata
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Hi Everyone,

as mentioned in my previous mail, I have uploaded the dotted start screen in
this mail with Nabble (compare near white right background with left one).

Have a nice evening,

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.1.4.2 win32 seems to have a dotted right Start Screen (Draw, Database, ... side)

2013-12-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Wow!  That took me ages to spot that!  I had to zoom right in before i
saw the dots!  On my machine the LibreOffice splash-screen it smoothly
white(ish), the same as the left hand side.  Does it happen with other
apps or just LibreOffice?  Do you get the same effect in a blank
document or is it just on the splash-screen?
Regards from
Tom :)

On 16 December 2013 18:01, carlo.strata carlo.str...@tiscali.it wrote:
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 this mail with Nabble (compare near white right background with left one).

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.1.4.2 win32 seems to have a dotted right Start Screen (Draw, Database, ... side)

2013-12-16 Thread Pedro
Hi Carlo


carlo.strata wrote
 It seems to have a dotted _right_ Start Screen (Draw, Database, ... 
 side): if you take a look with attention you will see a regular dotted 
 mesh. Its color is only slightly clearer than the central background.
 
 I haven't seen at all it in the past time...: is it correct or there 
 were some bug, some runout?

Wow. I had to download the image and zoom it to see the white dots.

Now that you mention it, I loaded 4.1.3.2 and it has the same dots. So it
seems like a regression from the 4.0 branch (there are no dots in 4.0.6) or
within the 4.1 branch.
Maybe you want to report that bug/regression? :)

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.1.4.2 win32 seems to have a dotted right Start Screen (Draw, Database, ... side)

2013-12-16 Thread Carlo Strata

Hi Tom!

Only in the splash screen and not in the white screens...
And if move the main LibreOffice window the dotted area move with it in 
the same way.

Only with LibreOffice: I tested only in the described environment.

Sunny night! :-)

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Il 16/12/2013 19:33, Tom Davies ha scritto:

Hi :)
Wow!  That took me ages to spot that!  I had to zoom right in before i
saw the dots!  On my machine the LibreOffice splash-screen it smoothly
white(ish), the same as the left hand side.  Does it happen with other
apps or just LibreOffice?  Do you get the same effect in a blank
document or is it just on the splash-screen?
Regards from
Tom :)

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LibreOffice,_4.1.4.2,_Start_Screen.png
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4088402/LibreOffice%2C_4.1.4.2%2C_Start_Screen.png

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Have a nice evening,

Carlo



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.1.4.2 win32 seems to have a dotted right Start Screen (Draw, Database, ... side)

2013-12-16 Thread Carlo Strata

Hi Pedro!

I used to ask people to compare my case with their ones and then, if the 
bug is discovered, proceed checking and, if necessary, filing a bug.


What is/are your environment/s Pedro?

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Il 16/12/2013 19:57, Pedro ha scritto:

Hi Carlo


carlo.strata wrote

It seems to have a dotted _right_ Start Screen (Draw, Database, ...
side): if you take a look with attention you will see a regular dotted
mesh. Its color is only slightly clearer than the central background.

I haven't seen at all it in the past time...: is it correct or there
were some bug, some runout?

Wow. I had to download the image and zoom it to see the white dots.

Now that you mention it, I loaded 4.1.3.2 and it has the same dots. So it
seems like a regression from the 4.0 branch (there are no dots in 4.0.6) or
within the 4.1 branch.
Maybe you want to report that bug/regression? :)

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 4.1.3

2013-12-16 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster


If you want to try 4.0.6 first, since you jumped from 3.6.x, it might be 
a good idea.  It is at the end on that line and I use it all of the time.


Sure, you can try 4.1.4 when it comes out, but 4.0.6 is very stable and 
you can use it as a stepping stone to the 4.1.x line. The messages 
about 4.1.3 being too buggy for you [or others] suggests going to 
4.0.6 and not going back down to the 3.6.x line.  Later, when all of the 
possible problems with 4.1.4 comes in, you can decide if it is ready 
for you to use.


Still, personally, I would try 4.0.6, for now.  Then look into 4.1.4 or 
4.1.5 later.



On 12/16/2013 06:47 AM, Dr. R. O. Stapf - the service institute japan wrote:

Hi Tom,Thanks for the hint, I will do with the 4.1.4 version which is
   scheduled to be released this week.RPresidentthe service institute 
japan... the service enhancement companywww.tsij.org
On 2013-12-14 00:46, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
Ahh, i think just go for a standard normal reinstall of 4.1.3.  maybe
re-download the installer to make sure that isn't the problem
Regards from
Tom :)


On 13 December 2013 02:42, rost52bugquestcontri@online.dewrote:The fact that I 
had to downgrade from 4.2.3.2 to 4.0.6 due to bugs and
Nino's proposal to install 2 versions parallel made my thinking that it
would be very efficient to have the install wiazerd modify to use it to
replace a version or install it parallel to an existing one.


I am just hesitant to go trough the work of installing LibO through the
command line.


In my case I would install 4.0.6 (stable) and 4.1.3.2 (with some nasty bugs
for me but some interesting features as well). With 2 versions I also could
do easy testing for bug reports.


Is there interest/support for having the installed wizard modified to enable
parallel installations?


On 2013-12-12 23:07, Nino Novak wrote:Am 12.12.2013 09:38, schrieb Kunwar 
Shivpal Singh:What would happen if I download LO 3.5.7 (already started it from 
Source
Forge. Will there be a clash between the 2 versions? Will LO 4.1.3.2
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Re: [libreoffice-users] looking for sdw-compatible, Linux version of Libre Office

2013-12-16 Thread Steve Edmonds


On 2013-12-17 07:55, M. Fioretti wrote:

On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 06:51:27 AM +1300, Steve Edmonds wrote:


I am using LO 3.6 because we have thousands of staroffice files.

I assume you mean .sx* formats, NOT .sd*

I am only talking of the second group, the original ones. Those are
not recognized already in the 3.5.7.2 version of LO I'm running now. I know 
that there is no problem yet with .sx* formats

Marco
No. I mean sd*. On my desktop I have Version 3.6:build-304 (Build ID: 
360m1(Build:304)) that opens and edits them fine and on the server for 
headless conversion I have 3.6.5.


steve@server3:~ /opt/libreoffice3.6/program/soffice --headless 
-convert-to tmp:writer8 --outdir /home/steve/LO 
/home/steve/LO/OldRDCells.sdw
convert /home/steve/LO/OldRDCells.sdw - /home/steve/LO/OldRDCells.tmp 
using writer8

Overwriting: /home/steve/LO/OldRDCells.tmp

Creates a file OldRDCells.tmp which I rename to OldRDCells.odt and open 
fine in LO.

Interesting though because in February it created the file with .odt
May be the .tmp file is not an odt, can you open the attachment.
Steve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] looking for sdw-compatible, Linux version of Libre Office

2013-12-16 Thread Steve Edmonds


On 2013-12-17 10:59, Steve Edmonds wrote:


On 2013-12-17 07:55, M. Fioretti wrote:

On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 06:51:27 AM +1300, Steve Edmonds wrote:


I am using LO 3.6 because we have thousands of staroffice files.

I assume you mean .sx* formats, NOT .sd*

I am only talking of the second group, the original ones. Those are
not recognized already in the 3.5.7.2 version of LO I'm running now. 
I know that there is no problem yet with .sx* formats


Marco
No. I mean sd*. On my desktop I have Version 3.6:build-304 (Build ID: 
360m1(Build:304)) that opens and edits them fine and on the server for 
headless conversion I have 3.6.5.


steve@server3:~ /opt/libreoffice3.6/program/soffice --headless 
-convert-to tmp:writer8 --outdir /home/steve/LO 
/home/steve/LO/OldRDCells.sdw
convert /home/steve/LO/OldRDCells.sdw - /home/steve/LO/OldRDCells.tmp 
using writer8

Overwriting: /home/steve/LO/OldRDCells.tmp

Creates a file OldRDCells.tmp which I rename to OldRDCells.odt and 
open fine in LO.

Interesting though because in February it created the file with .odt
May be the .tmp file is not an odt, can you open the attachment.
Steve
Brain fade there. It creates tmp because I have -convert-to 
tmp:writer8. If I have -convert-to odt:writer8 it creates the odt 
file. That is so I don't overwrite an already converted file that may 
have been edited.

steve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels

2013-12-16 Thread John Clegg
I have just done my labels too - only using Avery 8165 (I just happened to
have some in the drawer) It worked find, but I too found the printing
started right on the edge - and I couldn't see any way to change this other
than adding spaces manually. I had to add a blank line at the top for the
same reason. Or is there a way that I have missed?


On 5 December 2013 23:37, Jeff Hahn hahn...@outlook.com wrote:

 I use LO 4.1.3 and Windows 7.  I should repeat that in my case the first 2
 columns print properly (although the print starts right at the edge of the
 label).  It is only the third (right) column that is off.

 Jeff Hahn

  From: cuyfa...@hotmail.com
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels
  Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 12:31:46 -0500
 
  I just noticed this thread, and I have to chime in that, the last time I
  tried to create labels, I too noticed that the LO Avery 5160 template
  alignment was off. I had to adjust the contents of every cell. At that
 time,
  I was still using LO 3.5.x. I have not yet tried since upgrading to the
  4.x.x range.
 
  At the time, I just installed Apache OO, as its template worked properly.
 
  If I recall correctly, I think there may have been other label templates
  online as extensions that worked better than LO's label template.
 
  Virgil
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Niklas Johansson
  Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 12:20 PM
  To: Jeff Hahn ; users@global.libreoffice.org
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels
 
  So I looked at the configuration in LibreOffice 4.0.6 and LibreOffice
  4.2 beta-version and the configuration seems to be correct. I even
  compared it to the result that I get in Word 2013 for the same label
  (sorry for not thinking about doing that earlier). So before I put
  anymore time into this it would be good to know what version of
  LibreOffice you used when you created the labels?
 
  Niklas Johansson
 
  Jeff Hahn skrev 2013-12-05 17:22:
   I think the configuration in the wizard may be wrong.  The Avery 5160
 has
   30 labels on a 8.5 x 11 sheet each measuring 1 x 2 5/8.  It is
   probably one of the most common labels used so I am surprised the issue
   hasn't previously been raised.  As I indicated in my email, I didn't
 have
   any problem when I switched to Word so I am reasonably confident the
 issue
   is not related to my printer.
  
   Jeff Hahn
  
  
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 17:04:24 +0100
From: sleeping.pil...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels
   
Hi Jeff
   
Is the issue that you used lable sheets of the type Avery 5160 and
 that
the preconfiguration for these lables were wrong?
I think that I remember reading some issues with the label
   functionality
(File - New - Label) in an earlier version of LibreOffice that
 might
or might not be fixed in newer versions. What version of LibreOffice
   did
you use?
   
Do you have any specifications for the measurements of these specific
labels so I can do a quick review if there seems to be any issues
 there?
   
Note also that you can tweak the measurements under the Format tab of
the Labels-dialog. Not that you should need to if you use labels that
has a preset configuration.
   
Kind regards,
Niklas Johansson
   
Jeff Hahn wrote 2013-12-04 16:41:



 I tried to do my labels for Christmas
 cards using LO's mail merge. I was able to create the data base and
 print without difficulty. Unfortunately, the entire third column
   was not
 properly spaced and printed outside of the label, a couple of
   spaces to the left. The first two columns were they were supposed to
 be. I
   was using standard
 configuration for Avery 5160. I finally gave up created the labels
 with Excel and Word.




 I am not sure where to send an email to
 suggest that the matter be looked into so I am sending this
 information to this list with the hope the matter will be picked
 for
 investigation. Also, although I suspect it has been suggested
 before, it would be nice to be able to do a mail merge directly
 from
 the spreadsheet without creating a database file.




 Jeff Hahn


   
   
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Importing .xls table into Base

2013-12-16 Thread dollyp
julien2412 wrote
 Taking a look to the documentation, I read this:
 Exporting data from Calc into a database
 Select the data in the Calc worksheet. Hold the left mouse button down and
 drag the data that you
 want to turn into a database into the table area of the database browser.
 
 (see
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/e/e8/BH40-BaseHandbook.pdf)

Sorry I can't find this info in the document you linked to. There are
several paragraphs about linking to spreadsheets but that's all I can find.

Nevertheless, thanks to both responders for the information, which proved to
be what I needed. I would say that for folk coming to Base from Access, the
lack of a menu option for 'import' does not help. To be fair, select/paste
is more intuitive and a plus for Base.

Again thanks
David




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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.1.4.2 win32 seems to have a dotted right Start Screen (Draw, Database, ... side)

2013-12-16 Thread Pedro
Hi Carlo


carlo.strata wrote
 What is/are your environment/s Pedro?

I tested this under Windows XP Pro x86 SP3 en_US
I can't see any white dots in my Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS laptop running LO
4.1.3.2 
It seems to be a Windows only bug.
If you do report it, post the bugzilla link on this thread so I can confirm
the bug.

Cheers,
Pedro



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels

2013-12-16 Thread Don C. Myers
About 5 or 6 years ago when using OpenOffice to print Christmas labels, 
I ran across an article about using table style labels in OpenOffice 
instead of the type which come with Word, OpenOffice, and LibreOffice. 
It is far easier to adjust the table style labels. To adjust the top 
spacing, simply adjust the top margin for the page. To adjust the column 
width, simply drag the column borders and the entire column is adjusted. 
At one time OpenOffice had these label templates available as an 
extension. I don't know if they still do or not. But they are available 
from World Label here:

http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/openoffice-template.htm
They can be downloaded individually, or all together as a pdf.

I've found them much easier to use and adjust, and have never used any 
other label templates since then. Also, when you enter the text or 
fields in them, the text is starts with being paced in the center of the 
label between the top and the bottom, and then as additional lines are 
added, the text of fields are automatically centered within the label 
itself, top to bottom. I've never used the standard templates with 
OpenOffice or LibreOffice since finding these. Nor have I wasted any 
sheets of labels because they didn't print properly.


Don



On 12/16/2013 05:07 PM, John Clegg wrote:

I have just done my labels too - only using Avery 8165 (I just happened to
have some in the drawer) It worked find, but I too found the printing
started right on the edge - and I couldn't see any way to change this other
than adding spaces manually. I had to add a blank line at the top for the
same reason. Or is there a way that I have missed?


On 5 December 2013 23:37, Jeff Hahn hahn...@outlook.com wrote:


I use LO 4.1.3 and Windows 7.  I should repeat that in my case the first 2
columns print properly (although the print starts right at the edge of the
label).  It is only the third (right) column that is off.

Jeff Hahn


From: cuyfa...@hotmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 12:31:46 -0500

I just noticed this thread, and I have to chime in that, the last time I
tried to create labels, I too noticed that the LO Avery 5160 template
alignment was off. I had to adjust the contents of every cell. At that

time,

I was still using LO 3.5.x. I have not yet tried since upgrading to the
4.x.x range.

At the time, I just installed Apache OO, as its template worked properly.

If I recall correctly, I think there may have been other label templates
online as extensions that worked better than LO's label template.

Virgil

-Original Message-
From: Niklas Johansson
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 12:20 PM
To: Jeff Hahn ; users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels

So I looked at the configuration in LibreOffice 4.0.6 and LibreOffice
4.2 beta-version and the configuration seems to be correct. I even
compared it to the result that I get in Word 2013 for the same label
(sorry for not thinking about doing that earlier). So before I put
anymore time into this it would be good to know what version of
LibreOffice you used when you created the labels?

Niklas Johansson

Jeff Hahn skrev 2013-12-05 17:22:

I think the configuration in the wizard may be wrong.  The Avery 5160

has

30 labels on a 8.5 x 11 sheet each measuring 1 x 2 5/8.  It is
probably one of the most common labels used so I am surprised the issue
hasn't previously been raised.  As I indicated in my email, I didn't

have

any problem when I switched to Word so I am reasonably confident the

issue

is not related to my printer.

Jeff Hahn



Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 17:04:24 +0100
From: sleeping.pil...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels

Hi Jeff

Is the issue that you used lable sheets of the type Avery 5160 and

that

the preconfiguration for these lables were wrong?
I think that I remember reading some issues with the label

functionality

(File - New - Label) in an earlier version of LibreOffice that

might

or might not be fixed in newer versions. What version of LibreOffice

did

you use?

Do you have any specifications for the measurements of these specific
labels so I can do a quick review if there seems to be any issues

there?

Note also that you can tweak the measurements under the Format tab of
the Labels-dialog. Not that you should need to if you use labels that
has a preset configuration.

Kind regards,
Niklas Johansson

Jeff Hahn wrote 2013-12-04 16:41:



I tried to do my labels for Christmas
cards using LO's mail merge. I was able to create the data base and
print without difficulty. Unfortunately, the entire third column

was not

properly spaced and printed outside of the label, a couple of

spaces to the left. The first two columns were they were supposed to

be. I

was using standard

configuration for Avery 5160. I finally gave up created the labels
with 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels

2013-12-16 Thread Virgil Arrington

Don,

Thank you for this. I knew I had seen something like that before.

LO uses a frame based label template. I agree that a table based template 
makes far more sense.


Virgil

-Original Message- 
From: Don C. Myers

Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:34 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels

About 5 or 6 years ago when using OpenOffice to print Christmas labels,
I ran across an article about using table style labels in OpenOffice
instead of the type which come with Word, OpenOffice, and LibreOffice.
It is far easier to adjust the table style labels. To adjust the top
spacing, simply adjust the top margin for the page. To adjust the column
width, simply drag the column borders and the entire column is adjusted.
At one time OpenOffice had these label templates available as an
extension. I don't know if they still do or not. But they are available
from World Label here:
http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/openoffice-template.htm
They can be downloaded individually, or all together as a pdf.

I've found them much easier to use and adjust, and have never used any
other label templates since then. Also, when you enter the text or
fields in them, the text is starts with being paced in the center of the
label between the top and the bottom, and then as additional lines are
added, the text of fields are automatically centered within the label
itself, top to bottom. I've never used the standard templates with
OpenOffice or LibreOffice since finding these. Nor have I wasted any
sheets of labels because they didn't print properly.

Don



On 12/16/2013 05:07 PM, John Clegg wrote:

I have just done my labels too - only using Avery 8165 (I just happened to
have some in the drawer) It worked find, but I too found the printing
started right on the edge - and I couldn't see any way to change this 
other

than adding spaces manually. I had to add a blank line at the top for the
same reason. Or is there a way that I have missed?


On 5 December 2013 23:37, Jeff Hahn hahn...@outlook.com wrote:

I use LO 4.1.3 and Windows 7.  I should repeat that in my case the first 
2
columns print properly (although the print starts right at the edge of 
the

label).  It is only the third (right) column that is off.

Jeff Hahn


From: cuyfa...@hotmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 12:31:46 -0500

I just noticed this thread, and I have to chime in that, the last time I
tried to create labels, I too noticed that the LO Avery 5160 template
alignment was off. I had to adjust the contents of every cell. At that

time,

I was still using LO 3.5.x. I have not yet tried since upgrading to the
4.x.x range.

At the time, I just installed Apache OO, as its template worked 
properly.


If I recall correctly, I think there may have been other label templates
online as extensions that worked better than LO's label template.

Virgil

-Original Message-
From: Niklas Johansson
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 12:20 PM
To: Jeff Hahn ; users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels

So I looked at the configuration in LibreOffice 4.0.6 and LibreOffice
4.2 beta-version and the configuration seems to be correct. I even
compared it to the result that I get in Word 2013 for the same label
(sorry for not thinking about doing that earlier). So before I put
anymore time into this it would be good to know what version of
LibreOffice you used when you created the labels?

Niklas Johansson

Jeff Hahn skrev 2013-12-05 17:22:

I think the configuration in the wizard may be wrong.  The Avery 5160

has

30 labels on a 8.5 x 11 sheet each measuring 1 x 2 5/8.  It is
probably one of the most common labels used so I am surprised the issue
hasn't previously been raised.  As I indicated in my email, I didn't

have

any problem when I switched to Word so I am reasonably confident the

issue

is not related to my printer.

Jeff Hahn



Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 17:04:24 +0100
From: sleeping.pil...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels

Hi Jeff

Is the issue that you used lable sheets of the type Avery 5160 and

that

the preconfiguration for these lables were wrong?
I think that I remember reading some issues with the label

functionality

(File - New - Label) in an earlier version of LibreOffice that

might

or might not be fixed in newer versions. What version of LibreOffice

did

you use?

Do you have any specifications for the measurements of these specific
labels so I can do a quick review if there seems to be any issues

there?

Note also that you can tweak the measurements under the Format tab of
the Labels-dialog. Not that you should need to if you use labels that
has a preset configuration.

Kind regards,
Niklas Johansson

Jeff Hahn wrote 2013-12-04 16:41:



I tried to do my labels for Christmas
cards using LO's mail merge. I 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels

2013-12-16 Thread Don C. Myers

Hi Virgil,

They have really worked well for me. With the frame based templates, I 
always had trouble with the spacing on the labels changing as you would 
get into the bottom third of the label sheet. The frame based templates 
print out perfectly from top to bottom, and they are so easy to adjust. 
I've left similar posts when people have had issues before, but it seems 
very few are willing to try the table based formats. Maybe they try to 
use the wizard, which is not the way to set up a table based template.


Don

On 12/16/2013 08:11 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote:

Don,

Thank you for this. I knew I had seen something like that before.

LO uses a frame based label template. I agree that a table based 
template makes far more sense.


Virgil

-Original Message- From: Don C. Myers
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:34 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels

About 5 or 6 years ago when using OpenOffice to print Christmas labels,
I ran across an article about using table style labels in OpenOffice
instead of the type which come with Word, OpenOffice, and LibreOffice.
It is far easier to adjust the table style labels. To adjust the top
spacing, simply adjust the top margin for the page. To adjust the column
width, simply drag the column borders and the entire column is adjusted.
At one time OpenOffice had these label templates available as an
extension. I don't know if they still do or not. But they are available
from World Label here:
http://www.worldlabel.com/Pages/openoffice-template.htm
They can be downloaded individually, or all together as a pdf.

I've found them much easier to use and adjust, and have never used any
other label templates since then. Also, when you enter the text or
fields in them, the text is starts with being paced in the center of the
label between the top and the bottom, and then as additional lines are
added, the text of fields are automatically centered within the label
itself, top to bottom. I've never used the standard templates with
OpenOffice or LibreOffice since finding these. Nor have I wasted any
sheets of labels because they didn't print properly.

Don



On 12/16/2013 05:07 PM, John Clegg wrote:
I have just done my labels too - only using Avery 8165 (I just 
happened to

have some in the drawer) It worked find, but I too found the printing
started right on the edge - and I couldn't see any way to change this 
other
than adding spaces manually. I had to add a blank line at the top for 
the

same reason. Or is there a way that I have missed?


On 5 December 2013 23:37, Jeff Hahn hahn...@outlook.com wrote:

I use LO 4.1.3 and Windows 7.  I should repeat that in my case the 
first 2
columns print properly (although the print starts right at the edge 
of the

label).  It is only the third (right) column that is off.

Jeff Hahn


From: cuyfa...@hotmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 12:31:46 -0500

I just noticed this thread, and I have to chime in that, the last 
time I

tried to create labels, I too noticed that the LO Avery 5160 template
alignment was off. I had to adjust the contents of every cell. At that

time,
I was still using LO 3.5.x. I have not yet tried since upgrading to 
the

4.x.x range.

At the time, I just installed Apache OO, as its template worked 
properly.


If I recall correctly, I think there may have been other label 
templates

online as extensions that worked better than LO's label template.

Virgil

-Original Message-
From: Niklas Johansson
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 12:20 PM
To: Jeff Hahn ; users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels

So I looked at the configuration in LibreOffice 4.0.6 and LibreOffice
4.2 beta-version and the configuration seems to be correct. I even
compared it to the result that I get in Word 2013 for the same label
(sorry for not thinking about doing that earlier). So before I put
anymore time into this it would be good to know what version of
LibreOffice you used when you created the labels?

Niklas Johansson

Jeff Hahn skrev 2013-12-05 17:22:

I think the configuration in the wizard may be wrong.  The Avery 5160

has

30 labels on a 8.5 x 11 sheet each measuring 1 x 2 5/8.  It is
probably one of the most common labels used so I am surprised the 
issue

hasn't previously been raised.  As I indicated in my email, I didn't

have

any problem when I switched to Word so I am reasonably confident the

issue

is not related to my printer.

Jeff Hahn



Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 17:04:24 +0100
From: sleeping.pil...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels

Hi Jeff

Is the issue that you used lable sheets of the type Avery 5160 and

that

the preconfiguration for these lables were wrong?
I think that I remember reading some issues with the label

functionality

(File - New - Label) in 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Is there a risk eliminating table:number-rows-repeated attribute

2013-12-16 Thread Maxime Bégnis
Thanks for your input. Indeed it does not work, as we found out. We now 
convert to ODS flat XML before extracting the data. It seems to be much 
more reliable.


Le 14/12/2013 02:45, Urmas a écrit :

Maxime Bégnis:

The xslt remove any table:number-rows-repeated attributes.

So my question is:

By doing what I describe in this procedure is there a risk to break the
content of the file or to make the file not a valid ODS file?


There is no other way to represent empty rows in ODF tables except 
explicitly declaring N empty rows; so your idea won't work.






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