Re: [libreoffice-users] need help off list on a Asus Win10/Ubuntu laptop

[gordon cooper]

Tim,

Not sure if this would help on Win 10, but maybe worth a
try.  I gave up on new MS versions not long after XP,  but still
work on a few multi-boot systems and run into Grub issues.

The cure used here is to set up and adjust partitions with
Gparted (on a CD) , then run Puppy Linux (also on a CD) to remake
Grub with the  grub4dos utility. Has the advantage that the
resultant Grub menu is much more readable.

If the Windows partition size needs to be changed, then Defrag
is run before Gparted.

Gordon




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Font rendering

[Steve Edmonds]

Possibly my increased line length is related to this bug 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103322 and 
introduction of HarfBuzz in 5.3.
Sometimes finding a bug comes down to chancing upon suitable terminology 
in the search.

steve

On 15/08/17 11:04, V Stuart Foote wrote:

They should be stable now--our calculation of line heights for Windows builds
was changed to bring it in line with Linux and MacOS with  tdf#55469
   for the 5.3.0
release.

There is some potential this may still need to be tweaked but I believe it
is intended to remain as it is now.  The issue some folks are having is with
differing font metrics of fonts installed to OS or even between
distributions.
HarfBuzz
But if the font metrics are the same--the line spacing will remain be the
same across

A few BZ issues suggest it has been an issue for some time and may not
exactly be correct now... but main concern should be the quality/consistency
of your fonts.

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109235
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92502
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105860



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Font rendering

[Steve Edmonds]

Thanks Stuart.
I copy the same font package for the fonts I use across machines to 
ensure consistency, I first noticed a variation between mac and Linux 
but that was solved when I copied my Linux version of the font to the 
mac and I now ensure the same package is used on all machines. This may 
have been a side effect of the work done, but If the changes are looking 
settled I will adjust my documents when I revise them.


My issue now is one of line length increased in 5.3.3 causing additional 
wrapping, not inter-line spacing issues.

Steve

On 15/08/17 11:04, V Stuart Foote wrote:

They should be stable now--our calculation of line heights for Windows builds
was changed to bring it in line with Linux and MacOS with  tdf#55469
   for the 5.3.0
release.

There is some potential this may still need to be tweaked but I believe it
is intended to remain as it is now.  The issue some folks are having is with
differing font metrics of fonts installed to OS or even between
distributions.

But if the font metrics are the same--the line spacing will remain be the
same across

A few BZ issues suggest it has been an issue for some time and may not
exactly be correct now... but main concern should be the quality/consistency
of your fonts.

=-ref-=
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109235
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92502
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105860



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Font rendering

[V Stuart Foote]

They should be stable now--our calculation of line heights for Windows builds
was changed to bring it in line with Linux and MacOS with  tdf#55469
   for the 5.3.0
release.

There is some potential this may still need to be tweaked but I believe it
is intended to remain as it is now.  The issue some folks are having is with
differing font metrics of fonts installed to OS or even between
distributions. 

But if the font metrics are the same--the line spacing will remain be the
same across

A few BZ issues suggest it has been an issue for some time and may not
exactly be correct now... but main concern should be the quality/consistency
of your fonts.

=-ref-=
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109235
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92502
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105860



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Re: [libreoffice-users] need help off list on a Asus Win10/Ubuntu laptop

[Tim-L--Elmira-NY]

You were one of the two.


On 08/14/2017 09:04 AM, zahra a wrote:

hi.
i sent my comment off list in your second email address (gmail address).
hope that help and God bless you all.

On 8/14/17, James Knott  wrote:

On 08/14/2017 12:16 AM, Tim-L--Elmira-NY wrote:

Windows updated itself to a newer version of Windows 10.  That, again,
dumped the GRUB system to be able to boot to Ubuntu-MATE 16.04LTS.  I
have been trying to get it working for over 14 hours.

I use a bootable System Rescue USB pen drive and run fdisk to change the
bootable partition.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] need help off list on a Asus Win10/Ubuntu laptop

[Tim-L--Elmira-NY]

On 08/14/2017 08:49 AM, James Knott wrote:

On 08/14/2017 12:16 AM, Tim-L--Elmira-NY wrote:

Windows updated itself to a newer version of Windows 10.  That, again,
dumped the GRUB system to be able to boot to Ubuntu-MATE 16.04LTS.  I
have been trying to get it working for over 14 hours.

I use a bootable System Rescue USB pen drive and run fdisk to change the
bootable partition.
The ASUS laptop has more trouble allowing USB booting than it does to 
get the CD/DVD drive to boot.


This laptop is the only one that has this constant problem and needs 
specific arrangement of partition types to get it working. I think it 
may be both the laptop BIOS and the 1 TB drive.  The laptop I use for 
emailing is the next largest drive - 500 GB, and does not give me 
little issues in this department.




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[libreoffice-users] Font rendering

[Steve Edmonds]

Hi.
Was there a change in font rendering between 5.2.7 and 5.3.3.
The lines of text in 5.3 are now slightly longer in a document created 
in 5.2.7 and I get text re-flowing upsetting my layout. Is this 
something that should be stable in future releases and I just have to 
fix up once or likely to change again in the next release.

Steve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Simple way to draw graphs ?

[Brian Barker]

At 08:09 14/08/2017 -0700, Tom Cloyd wrote:
Re-using graphs directly scanned from a book, without permission of 
the copyright owner, would also be a violation of international copyright law.


Surely reconstituting such a graph - as is being suggested - might 
well be so too?


Brian Barker 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Simple way to draw graphs ?

[Regina Henschel]

Hi,

Gilles schrieb:

Hello

I'd like to use LO to redraw graphs scanned from a book, such at this one:



Is there a simple way in LO to do this, ideally without using maths (unless
it's a no-brainer)?



You mean, that you do not have the underlying data?

In that case, you can use the scan directly.

Or in case the scan is too ugly, you have to read the scan and enter the 
coordinates as data in the table. From the image I guess, that five 
points are sufficient. You need an XY-chart, because otherwise the years 
are not at the ticks but between the ticks.


Generate the chart in Calc. Uncheck the option to use "Source Format" in 
the Numbers tab of the axis properties dialog. That makes it easier to 
copy the chart to Writer.


Yes, you can redraw the graph, but you might learn a little bit about 
making a chart.


Kind regards
Regina





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Simple way to draw graphs ?

[Tom Cloyd]

Re-using graphs directly scanned from a book, without permission of the
copyright owner, would also be a violation of international copyright law.

Tom

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On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 7:43 AM, T. R. Valentine 
wrote:

> On 14 August 2017 at 09:24, Gilles  wrote:
>
> > I'd like to use LO to redraw graphs scanned from a book, such at this
> one:
> >
> > 
> >
> > Is there a simple way in LO to do this, ideally without using maths
> (unless
> > it's a no-brainer)?
>
> The only way I know to do this in LibreOffice *or* MS Office is to
> enter the values in a spreadsheet, create the graph, then link the
> graph to the word processor.
>
> If one obtains high-quality scans of the graphs and saves them as
> images, they could be inserted as images, but that wouldn't be
> redrawing the graphs.
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Simple way to draw graphs ?

[T. R. Valentine]

On 14 August 2017 at 09:24, Gilles  wrote:

> I'd like to use LO to redraw graphs scanned from a book, such at this one:
>
> 
>
> Is there a simple way in LO to do this, ideally without using maths (unless
> it's a no-brainer)?

The only way I know to do this in LibreOffice *or* MS Office is to
enter the values in a spreadsheet, create the graph, then link the
graph to the word processor.

If one obtains high-quality scans of the graphs and saves them as
images, they could be inserted as images, but that wouldn't be
redrawing the graphs.


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[libreoffice-users] Simple way to draw graphs ?

[Gilles]

Hello

I'd like to use LO to redraw graphs scanned from a book, such at this one:

 

Is there a simple way in LO to do this, ideally without using maths (unless
it's a no-brainer)?

Thank you.



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[libreoffice-users] Invitation to participate in an usability test for LibreOffice Writer

[Amazing Doppler]

Dear users,

I want to remind all of you that the survey of the usability research with
LibreOffice Writer for my project degree wil last until August 21st.
I am very grateful to the users who wrote their email address to
participate in the next phase of the research and with those who just
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Dear Users

My name is Roberto Pizarro Mendoza. I am currently researching for my
Information Technology graduation project titled “Integration of Adapted
Usability Techniques in LibreOffice Writer Open Source Software Project” at
the Autonomous University of Madrid, with the knowing of some experts
developers and designers from the LibreOffice community, like Samuel
Mehrbrodt, Michael Stahl or Heiko Tietze.

As users of LibreOffice Writter, you will probably have noticed that some
features are not easy, fast and accessible to use. This research aims to
provide empirical evidence to resolve some usability issues with which the
LibreOffice Writer community is unfamiliar. To be able to do this, we need
your help. We would like you to respond to a survey in order to identify
the characteristics of the possible LibreOffice Writer user profiles.

If you would like to collaborate, please send me your e-mail address. At
the end of the survey, the responses will be analysed. The results of this
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the LibreOffice Writer user experience.

The survey is anonymous and will take no longer than 12 minutes to
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My email is: robpizarro...@gmail.com


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Re: [libreoffice-users] need help off list on a Asus Win10/Ubuntu laptop

[zahra a]

hi.
i sent my comment off list in your second email address (gmail address).
hope that help and God bless you all.

On 8/14/17, James Knott  wrote:
> On 08/14/2017 12:16 AM, Tim-L--Elmira-NY wrote:
>> Windows updated itself to a newer version of Windows 10.  That, again,
>> dumped the GRUB system to be able to boot to Ubuntu-MATE 16.04LTS.  I
>> have been trying to get it working for over 14 hours.
>
> I use a bootable System Rescue USB pen drive and run fdisk to change the
> bootable partition.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] need help off list on a Asus Win10/Ubuntu laptop

[James Knott]

On 08/14/2017 12:16 AM, Tim-L--Elmira-NY wrote:
> Windows updated itself to a newer version of Windows 10.  That, again,
> dumped the GRUB system to be able to boot to Ubuntu-MATE 16.04LTS.  I
> have been trying to get it working for over 14 hours.

I use a bootable System Rescue USB pen drive and run fdisk to change the
bootable partition.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] need help off list on a Asus Win10/Ubuntu laptop

[Dave Howorth]

On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 00:16:45 -0400
Tim-L--Elmira-NY  wrote:

> I am just MAD at my ASUS X751S laptop.
> 
> Windows updated itself to a newer version of Windows 10.  That,
> again, dumped the GRUB system to be able to boot to Ubuntu-MATE
> 16.04LTS.  I have been trying to get it working for over 14 hours.

This would be more appropriate to ask on an Ubuntu list or forum rather
than a libreoffice list!

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