Re: [libreoffice-users] .docx can't be read

2011-05-05 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 05/05/2011 10:59, t...@iafrica.com wrote:

In MS word/powerpoint I use textboxes with an image dropped in because then I 
can skid it
about the page taking advantage of text formmating around the textbox.
That's fine and is standard practice. What we are talking about here is 
a document that is just ONE big text box, with all the document text and 
images INSIDE the one big text box - a VERY odd thing to do...and NOT 
standard practice at ALL...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] .docx can't be read

2011-05-05 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 05/05/2011 14:52, Joep L. Blom wrote:
I'm impressed by all the comment on a not very important file. I don't 
know if the originators (my acquaintances) did what some thought 
namely putting all information within a text-box but I doubt it as 
they are not very computer literate.


Well that's what it has when opened in MS Word 2007 - a large text box 
with all the data inside it...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: .docx can't be read

2011-05-04 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 04/05/2011 12:54, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)

There does seem to have been a recent change somewhere that is creating problems
with docX.
I don't seem to have many problems opening docx files I have created in 
LO 3.3.2 - the problem with THIS particular file, having opened it in MS 
Word 2007, would seem to be that the creators have inserted a Text Box 
and the ENTIRE document is inside this text box. Why on EARTH anyone 
would do that in a Word document I have NO IDEA.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] do not upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04 with standard resolution widescreen monitor

2011-05-02 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 02/05/11 14:53, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)

Ubuntu 10.04 LTS is the recommended release for crucial machines that you don't
want to upgrade too often.  The LTSes only need upgrading about every 2-3 years.


LTS versions are released every two years on the 04 release, so you've 
got 8.04 LTS, 10.04 LTS and the next will be 12.04


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer tutorial ready for upload

2011-04-26 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 26/04/2011 02:54, David Nelson wrote:


Feel free to sign up for the list...


Where's the list to be found?

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[libreoffice-users] Update and extension grizzles and aggravation

2011-04-25 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
1. I cannot understand why there is STILL no upgrade function in LO. I 
had 3.3.1 and in order to upgrade to 3.3.2 I had to download the whole 
220 MB. Now I know that's not a lot, but for those on capped and/or slow 
connections it IS a lot.
2. In the old installation of 3.3.1 I had removed all the non-English 
dictionaries (after a long search on how to do this - WHY is there not 
an easy dictionary removel method?) and after downloading the GB version 
of the new install file, IT RE-INSTALLED ALL THE NON-ENGLISH 
DICTIONARIES! What on earth is the point of a GB install file when it 
just replaces all the non-English dictionaries that I had to 
painstakingly remove previously? GRR.

Come on LO. Get your act together

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Has it all except ... #2

2011-03-16 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 16/03/11 07:15, Bruce Carlson wrote:

  I now use evolution on my linux machines and until evolution for windows 
improves sufficiently I simply will not use windows for emails at all. Except 
this smart phone--HTC touch pro 2-- Evolution email imports all calenda and 
contact info from outlook with no problems.


The major problem I found with Evolution is that it won't write tasks to 
an internet-based calendar.
I use icalx.com to automatically synch calendar AND tasks between two 
machines and Evolution will not write tasks to that calendar. The 
Lightning extension in Thunderbird will.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] New to LibreOffice

2011-03-16 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 16/03/11 16:20, Crowley, Elizabeth wrote:

Hello,

We are new with LibreOffice. Our non-profit is cutting MS Office out of the
budget and moving to google docs, but we plan to use LibreOffice for things
google can't do.


If you are moving to Googledocs you might like to have a look at this 
extension for LO which will allow you to import and export direct to and 
from Googledocs from within LO:

http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/ooo2gd
(It will work just fine in LO even if it says OO!)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Has it all except ... #2

2011-03-15 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 14/03/11 09:40, Mark Stanton wrote:

Further to Fernando's post I'd like to add a thought.

I hadn't noticed the project planning thing, but it seems to me that
(aside from that?) What LO misses, compared to M$Office, is an email
facility.



I think the point is, (and this has been done to death on the Open 
Office lists as well IIR) that CHOICE is the whole thing. The versions 
of both OO and LO downloaded from the respective websites (NOT, I'm 
afraid, those versions installed with distros like Ubuntu) have very 
good integration with ANY EMAIL CLIENT you choose, unlike MS Office 
where Word will ONLY use Outlook contacts for example. (Of course Word 
will also use an Excel or Access spreadsheet/database as a mailmerge 
source, but for Contacts, it's Outlook ONLY) so IMHO the fact that OO/LO 
have never had an integral email client is a GOOD THING ^TM and should 
be kept.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Has it all except ... #2

2011-03-15 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 15/03/11 06:29, Stefan Weigel wrote:

LibreOffice is great software and there are many good reasons to
choose it. LibreOffice does not need to always compare itself to
Microsoft Office. But, if someone compares LibreOffice to Microsoft
products, then it should be compared to Word, Excel and Powerpoint


But those components (with Outlook) are what the VAST majority of users 
actually USE. Access is relatively uncommon as are all the rest of the 
modules available.
Even Office Professional Plus 2010, the top version only contains Word, 
Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, OneNote, Publisher, Access, InfoPath, 
SharePoint Workspace and Communicator.
Of those modules, the VAST majority of people will only use a 
combination of Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Outlook. Access tends to be 
quite a specialist application, Sharepoint is only of use if you have 
access to a Sharepoint server, Publisher is becoming (thankfully) less 
and less used as you can do most things in Word instead, and 
Communicator  seems a bit of a gimmich, as you can replicate its 
functions with many other pices of software.

From the Communicator website:

Office Communicator 2007 R2 provides a streamlined communications 
experience and offers easy connectivity for users no matter where they 
are or what communications method they choose. With rich presence 
awareness, software-powered voice capabilities, enterprise-class instant 
messaging (IM), multi-party audio, video and desktop sharing, and 
integration with Microsoft Office 2007 applications, you can connect and 
collaborate from any location that has Internet connectivity.


All that can be done without Office.

So I think that it is perfectly sound to compare LO with MO - certainly 
for the average user.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Has it all except ... #2

2011-03-15 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 15/03/11 07:52, Stefan Weigel wrote:


Microsoft itself defines the following applications as parts of
Microsoft Office:

 * Access
 * Excel
 * InfoPath
 * Lync
 * OneNote
 * Outlook
 * PowerPoint
 * Project
 * Publisher
 * SharePoint Workspace
 * Visio
 * Word

E


Which is NOT what people buy. People buy the MS Office that is a SUITE. 
That's what everybody understands by the term Microsoft Office
Lync, Project and Visio ALL need to be bought as standalone products - 
they do NOT come bundled in any  suite.


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[libreoffice-users] Calc - Hide a sheet

2011-03-15 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

3.3.1 Does this function exist? (I can't see it anywhere...)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc - Hide a sheet

2011-03-15 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 15/03/11 13:21, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

3.3.1 Does this function exist? (I can't see it anywhere...)


Sorry disregard - pressed Send before Help ;-)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Has it all except ... #2

2011-03-15 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 15/03/11 15:51, Stefan Weigel wrote:


People were expecting that OOo is just the same as MSO, but for
free. People were complaining about functions that were not exactly
the same as in Word, Excel or Powerpoint.


Then that's a lack of communication and explanation.
ANY different software requires at least an introduction to the 
functions that ARE different. If people expect OO or LO to be EXACT 
clones of MS Office then they are being very naive.

Seen the difference between office 2003 and 2007/2010?
Do people buy a new car and expect the controls to be EXACTLY the same 
as their old one?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Content disappears with vertical text in merged cells while autospellcheck is on.

2011-03-04 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 04/03/11 13:00, pintero wrote:

I've got a weird problem, possibly a bug in Calc:
Make sure AutospellCheck is turned on

And where do you do that?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Content disappears with vertical text in merged cells while autospellcheck is on.

2011-03-04 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 04/03/11 13:14, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

On 04/03/11 13:00, pintero wrote:

I've got a weird problem, possibly a bug in Calc:
Make sure AutospellCheck is turned on

And where do you do that?


OK got it. And no i can't reproduce your behaviour. Firstly the 
mis-spelled word does not turn red and secondly by moving through 90 
degree it just adjusts the width of the row to the text...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Content disappears with vertical text in merged cells while autospellcheck is on.

2011-03-04 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 04/03/11 13:51, Gérard Fargeot wrote:

pintero wrote:

I've got a weird problem, possibly a bug in Calc:
Make sure AutospellCheck is turned on and select some empty cells in a row
(A1-A10 for example)
Click Format-Merge Cells-Merge and center cells
Now fill it with some jibberish, so it gets red-underlined.
Now click Format-Cells-Alignment, enter 90 in Degrees -  OK and the
content just disappears magically!
If you turn off the AutoSpellCheck, content reappears.

It looks like checking the 'Wrap text automatically' checkbox in the
Alignment window won't affect the content, but without the Wrap option
Calc can't display the red-underline vertically. If you turn off the
autospellcheck, the jibberish content reappears without red-underline and
if you change the text and turn on the spellcheck, the text is gone again.
This can't be by design..

Same problem with 3.3.0 and latest 3.3.1.
Can anyone confirm this?


Already reported in Freedesktop :
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33622

-


Doesn't happen here using LO 3.3.1 on Ubuntu 10.04

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug - Calc, merged cells adjustment

2011-03-04 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 04/03/11 21:14, Helmar wrote:

Maybe someone else can help you... I´m using Ubuntu 10.10 with LibO 3.3.1
and works fine



Also works fine here with 3.3.1 and Ubuntu 10.04

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug - Calc, merged cells adjustment

2011-03-04 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 04/03/11 21:23, Klaus Friis Østergaard wrote:

I have attached one small file


The list doesn't accept attachments...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] On the subject of mailmerge...

2011-03-02 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 02/03/11 16:46, James Wilde wrote:

Thanks, Don, but the Worldlabel site is only for US sizes, and doesn't appear 
to have A4.  However, I'll take a look at the OOo site, and see if I can find 
the extension.



try this:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ooolabels/


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Re: [libreoffice-users] On the subject of mailmerge...

2011-03-02 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 02/03/11 18:34, James Wilde wrote:

On Mar 2, 2011, at 18:30 , Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:


On 02/03/11 16:46, James Wilde wrote:

Thanks, Don, but the Worldlabel site is only for US sizes, and doesn't appear 
to have A4.  However, I'll take a look at the OOo site, and see if I can find 
the extension.


try this:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ooolabels/

Thanks, Gordon, but that appears to be a back door to Worldlabel.  Until I know 
I can find A4, I'll take a raincheck.

//James

I posted that link because the file HAS A4 labels in it

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Updating Libreoffice

2011-02-23 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 23/02/11 16:29, AG wrote:

On 23/02/11 16:15, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
I have 3.3.0 installed in Ubuntu 10.04 (direct from LO rather than 
from the ppa as I need integration with TBird address book).
Is there no other way to upgrade to 3.3.1 other than to download the 
whole shooting match AGAIN?




I use Debian testing, and IIRC when I do an aptitude dist-upgrade the 
LibO libraries are downloaded, the old ones removed, and the new one's 
installed.  I think that this is how all updates work, isn't it? If 
so, then I for one don't understand your question or expectation: of 
course you have to download the libraries ... how else would you get 
them?


If you are actually referring to /installing/ them, then that is a 
different question, in which case your concern is about Is there no 
other way to upgrade to 3.3.1 other than to [manually install] the 
whole shooting match AGAIN?  .


Is there a specific library that you can manually load from the *.tar 
file from the LibO site while allowing aptitude (or whatever Ubuntu 
uses) to manage your main package installation?


If not, and if the Ubuntu maintainers don't engineer some kind of 
interoperability (which clearly exists if the LibO site version works 
with TB) then the short answer is yes.



I'm a bit confused by your response.
Of course if I enable the Ubuntu ppa repository then I will get updates 
(relatively small downloads) to LO rather than having to download and 
install the whole new package (148 MB).
Unfortunately the version of LO (as with OO) provided from the Ubuntu 
ppa does NOT allow the use of the Thunderbird address book as an address 
data source - it ONLY integrates with Evolution, hence the reason I use 
the directly-downloaded package from the LO web site and NOT the Ubuntu 
repository.
I'm trying to ascertain whether there's a method of updating from 3.3.0 
to 3.3.1 direct from the LO website, rather than having to download the 
entire new package?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to set default view to Web layout ?

2011-02-20 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 20/02/11 20:49, Glenn wrote:

I recall reading that you should always create/save and edit/save in odt format 
and then convert when you want to share it with someone who is MS Office-only.
I understand it's an extra step,


Not an extra step at all - open the document then do File-Send-Email as 
Microsoft whatever.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Default file formats

2011-02-19 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 19/02/11 00:45, MR ZenWiz wrote:


I don't like the ribbon primarily because it takes up a huge amount of
vertical screen space


You do know you can minimize the ribbon?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Default file formats

2011-02-19 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 19/02/11 10:44, James Wilde wrote:
My problem with the ribbon - with which I have to help my wife on her 
Windows box - is that, after 20 years of menus, I don't find it 
intuitive. And apparently neither does she. Let's hope the LibO 
developers never get seduced into trying to imitate it.


I have to say after having used everything from MS Office 95 through 
Lotus and WordPerfect, I found the Ribbon fairly easy to get to use - 
the QAT being a great help...



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Missing function: Bankers Rounding

2011-02-19 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 19/02/11 00:38, Robert Prins wrote:

On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 00:24, plinopedl...@gmail.com  wrote:

I had never heard of bankers rounding before. Interesting concept.

There is no such function in OOo/LO, Excel or Gnumeric...

But you can easily create a function

=IF(A1-INT(A1)=0.5;IF(ISEVEN(INT(A1));A1-0.5;A1+0.5);ROUND(A1))

(Adjust if your separator is a comma instead of a  semi-colon)

What this does is check if the fractional part is 0.5 and adds 0.5 to the
number if the integer is odd and subtracts if it is even. If  it is not 0.5
then it uses the regular Round() function ;)

Hope this helps!

Yes, but mostly no...

The above works for 22.5 and -1234.5, but now I want to deal with currencies...

Like $ 123.455 or € 99.125, which should be rounded to $ 123.46 and € 99.12

In other words, the issue is slightly more complicated...

Robert
All you need to do is to set the cell format to be 2 decimal places. If 
you then enter 123.455 into a cell that will round up to 123.46 
automatically for youno need for any sort of complicated formulae


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[libreoffice-users] Extensions in error

2011-02-18 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
Clean install of LO 3.3 on Ubuntu 10.04 using the download from LO and 
NOT the Ubuntu repository.
Just added an extension and I've noticed that several of the 
pre-installed extensions are exhibiting errors.
Report Builder, Solver for non-Linear Programing and the Wiki publisher 
all have Error - the status of this extension is unknown
I've corrected the situation by going to the Open Office website and 
downloading the current versions of those extensions and adding them to 
LO, but is this a bug that should be fixed?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Default file formats

2011-02-18 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 18/02/11 16:25, ashl...@arcet.com wrote:

The biggest reason is our users do not remember to save in MS format when 
sending files to customers and vendors.



That's the joy of OO/LO - you don't have to!
Do File-Send-Document as Microsoft Word. Then you can standardise on ODF 
while still sending to others in .doc if you need to...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Default file formats

2011-02-18 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 18/02/11 17:41, philan...@comcast.net wrote:


Please take me off your list!!



You need to do the unsubscribe instructions on the bottom of each email...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Ubuntu - don't install LibreOffice manually from the .deb files

2011-02-18 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 18/02/11 19:14, emarkay wrote:

MR. ZW, let's play nice now, OK?  :)

So regarding the thread of substance, what is DIFFERENT about the Ubuntu vs.
Deb, vs official LO application?


The major major difference is that the ppa version does NOT enable the 
user to use any address book source other than Evolution. Never has 
done, even with Open Office. A major mistake on the behalf of Canonical 
IMHO...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-15 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 15/02/11 15:15, Matthew Young wrote:

Hi,

I prefer top quoting since email clients such as Thunderbird shows the 
text right on top.




No it doesn't - I'm using TBird and it's set to bottom post.
Do you read a book from the bottom up?

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[libreoffice-users] Installing downloaded LO and removing downloaded OO

2011-02-15 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

Ubuntu 10.04
I downloaded and installed OO 3.3 direct from OO because I need the 
integration with Thunderbird addressbook (the Ubuntu-supplied OO doesn't 
have that).

I now want to replace that version of OO with LO.
I can do the install of LO but I can't find the syntax to uninstall OO 
first...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Comments of replacing OO with LO

2011-02-14 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 14/02/11 04:44, Simon Cropper wrote:

Hi,

I noted that the simple sequence of

   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa
   sudo apt-get update
   sudo apt-get install libreoffice
   sudo apt-get install libreoffice-gnome

did not work as described on numerous websites.

All indications suggested that LO would uninstall OO but this did not 
happen.

Well the website I looked on said to do this first:
sudo apt-get autoremove openoffice.org-*


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[libreoffice-users] Using external addressbooks as a data source

2011-02-08 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

Installed 3.3 on Ubuntu 10.04 using the Libreoffice repository.
Going into File-Wizards-Address Data Source the ONLY thing that is 
selectable is Other external Data Source - there's NO option to select 
an email addressbook. The data sources pane shows Evolution - I don't 
use Evolution, I use Thunderbird.


Surely this is a CRITICAL function that's either completely missing or 
broken?

How do I connect to the TBird addressbook?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Using external addressbooks as a data source

2011-02-08 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 08/02/11 14:21, Luuk wrote:

On 08-02-11 14:05, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

Installed 3.3 on Ubuntu 10.04 using the Libreoffice repository.
Going into File-Wizards-Address Data Source the ONLY thing that is
selectable is Other external Data Source - there's NO option to
select an email addressbook. The data sources pane shows Evolution - I
don't use Evolution, I use Thunderbird.

Surely this is a CRITICAL function that's either completely missing or
broken?
How do I connect to the TBird addressbook?



What version of Thunderbird?


3.1.7


The option is also missing on my openSUSE11.1 system, which has
Thunderbird 3.0.11
But in my Win7 with Thunderbird 3.1.7 it is working.




Yep - I seem to recall I've noticed that before - it's a Distro build 
problem.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Using external addressbooks as a data source

2011-02-08 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 08/02/11 14:36, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)

I have a funny feeling that is more to do with the differences in LO  OOo on
Windows platforms rather than the difference between releases of Thunderbird.
Just a guess and i could easily be wrong

R


I have a feeling you are right. I seem to recall this before - that the 
Windows version has this functionality - the Distro builds do not. I 
wonder if the non-distro builds available from LO direct DO have this 
functionality? Anyone?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice

2011-02-04 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 04/02/2011 12:01, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
  
Please can we stop posting criticisms of Ken's opinions?


But his reasoning as to why he doesn't advocate FOSS is flawed. His 
given reasons are spurious and don't hold up in real life. That's the 
point...


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