Re: [libreoffice-users] definition of flat/relational database

2013-03-03 Thread Mark Stanton
I think the (incorrect) definition that is being used is whether LO 
manipulates files directly or talks to a database engine.

I don't think there is a dBase or FoxBase engine.  I'm pretty sure 
there is a Visual FoxPro engine (John doesn't mention VFP, whyzatt 
then? ;) ), however it'll be a Windoze only thing I expect.

So, to answer the original question, LO is calling dBase files flat 
because it can't access a database engine for them and it won't do 
any engine work itself.

A flat database?  Errr, can't think of one, although I know there 
have been such things.

You only had to ask ;)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] definition of flat/relational database

2013-03-04 Thread Mark Stanton
 Thank God Linux came arround when it did...
I am still waiting for a database program that will allow me to 
 create applications

I feel your pain.  I was a professional VFP developer and have now moved to 
Linux and have the same problem.
However, I am wondering if the one solid lump approach is the only way to 
go or if a collection of pieces will do the job as well (or better?)  The 
pieces in Base are actually (potentially) pretty good).  I'm hoping to get 
some time to develop this idea in the not-too-distant future.

C, or its derivatives, would be a very poor database application 
environment imnvho.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fill Writer document with MySQL Query.

2013-03-04 Thread Mark Stanton
Very easy to do.

Use Base to map to the data you want.  If all the fields aren't one 
table then create a query that does generate the data you want and 
save the query.

Use the mailmerge facility to create a document and connect to the 
data you want.  Create fields for the data fields.

Run the mailmerge and step something-or-other (four?) gives you 
opportunity to save your results, save the mailmerged result as 
separate Writer documents.  Simples!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] definition of flat/relational database

2013-03-06 Thread Mark Stanton
Dan, 

As I said in my response above, the distinction that LO is making is 
database engine call or manipulate file directly.

If it manipulates files directly it does it with simple, slightly 
extended, text manipulation.  LO has no database functionality 
itself, for such functions it can only make calls to a database 
engine (ie another program) when it has anything other than simple 
single file manipulation to do.

DBase (for example) has no engine that LO can call to.

Flat file databases are those where there is no ability to  relate 
different tables.  In that respect, outside its correct 
environment, I suppose you could say that dBase files are flat, but 
that is because of the lack of correct environment rather than any 
shortcoming in the files themselves.

That, I think, points to flat file being a misleading term, not 
only because it's not just to do with the file, but also because, at 
least in the beginning, many databases didn't store their data in 
operating-system-recognisable files.

So, my suggestion is to remove the term flat file and instead refer 
to calls to a relational database system engine or direct file 
manipulation.

Regards
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base stuck in Read Only mode??

2013-03-27 Thread Mark Stanton
The usual reason for Base being in read only mode is not having 
defined a primary key for your tables.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base stuck in Read Only mode??

2013-03-27 Thread Mark Stanton
In article 5152bfd4.7050...@telkomsa.net, Ian Whitfield wrote:
 Thanks Mark
 
 I think you are right!! I DON'T see a Primary Key!! (I'm sure I DID set it!!)
 BUT - If I try to set it in Base it does not accept the setting.
 
 If I try in MyAdmin to set my first column (RecordID) as Primary I get the 
 error
 #1062 - Duplicate entry '' for key 'PRIMARY' 
 
 I can not see any Primary Key in the list of fields
 So I ran ..
 
 SELECT EXISTS(
   SELECT 1
   FROM information_schema.columns
   WHERE table_schema = 'FedSaintsNew'
  and table_name='TABLE 2'
  and column_key = 'PRI'
 ) As HasPrimaryKey
 
 I get HasPrimaryKey 0
 
 What is stopping me setting the key or how do I get round this??!!

Hi Ian,

Are you saying that phpMyAdmin doesn't show a primary key?  But won't let you 
enter one?  That sounds very odd.

Personally I would do most of the setup in phpMyAdmin rather than Base.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base data-loss and other problems

2013-05-10 Thread Mark Stanton
How are we to see this thread in the marketing list Tom?  Just 
joining the list won't give it, will it?

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[libreoffice-users] Calc bug?

2013-07-11 Thread Mark Stanton
I'm not a frequent Calc user, so this might be just plain wrong, 
however...

With a very wide table I can (as is standard in most GUIs) go a page 
right (or probably left) at a time by clicking in the scrollbar 
between the end stop and the current position indicator.

However, if the column wider than the Calc window, this doesn't work. 
 The cell is placed with its left side at the left of the window and 
and further page clicking to continue scolling doesn't move the 
page.

The page can be moved by using the arrow at the end of the scrollbar, 
or by dragging the position indicator.

Checking actions to write this message pretty much confirms it for 
me.  Or have I made a mistake?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] HSLQLDB syntax

2013-07-14 Thread Mark Stanton
Google

When you spell it right, with just those two words you'll get, if 
it's the same as for me, 116k hits.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] eastern font in new version

2013-08-02 Thread Mark Stanton
All quiet on the eastern font, then... :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Uninstall Anaphraseus (LibO 3.6 on Mac)

2012-07-23 Thread Mark Stanton
Anaphraseus not working?
It *seems* to be working here, but that might be because I'm not sure 
what to expect from it.

I, too, get the complaint on closing a document (which I've reported 
to the author), but it doesn't seem to cause a problem, does it?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] SQL statement in Base query

2012-07-24 Thread Mark Stanton
In article 500ea6e8.4030...@gmail.com, Jay Lozier wrote:
 Actually most users of different backend db will be familiar with the 
 SQL version of that backend. What users need are two things: a connector 
 between Base and the backend and instructions on connecting to that backend.

The problem is, I think, that Base does some pre-processing to check the SQL, 
which 
causes a problem, particularly in this context (non-standard SQL).  Although 
there are 
some helpful points to it are there enough?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Other SQL question as it affects Base

2012-07-29 Thread Mark Stanton
Keys are intended for the internal workings of the database, they are 
not meant to be used like this.

What you want is the WHERE clause, or occasionally the HAVING clause, 
matching or excluding rows based on their data.

Keys are NOT data and should not be used as such.

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[libreoffice-users] BASE SQL problem

2012-07-29 Thread Mark Stanton
BASE's pre-processing, of MySQL at least, prevents the perfectly 
legal SQL field specifier


field1 = field2 AS ConditionName

Does it really need to pre-process, or is this more a shortcoming of 
its pre-processing?

Regards
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Re: [libreoffice-users] BASE SQL problem

2012-07-29 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi!

 It works when you turn off the parser (direct SQL mode) but then you 
 don't have an editable record set anymore.

Ah yes, silly me.  Because it complained that it had to use SQL view I 
assumed it was in SQL mode, it wasn't.

Yes, selecting SQL mode got it to work, but only in a (too) limited 
sense.  It (my stored query) doesn't work when I call it from a Writer 
document.  Worse than that it doesn't work in a silent, partial, sense! 
:-(
Not very happy about that.


 I wish they would drop all the pre-processing and the extremely stupid 
 query designer.

I think it's REALLY important to have tools like this, so less able 
people can use more powerful application.  However, the tools mustn't 
stop the more able from using the application.

Regards
Mark



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Other SQL question as it affects Base

2012-07-30 Thread Mark Stanton
As far as I remember it's explicitly stated in the SQL definitions

Id fields should not contain data entered by users

You can't rely on them not least because often they're automatically 
generated by the system.  They bear no necessary relationship to the 
data.

Mark



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Other SQL question as it affects Base

2012-07-30 Thread Mark Stanton
Ok, this is, then, quite an interesting idea.

The problem is that you've got nothing reliable in your data to 
relate one date to the next (by the looks of it).  You're only taking 
readings at roughly monthly intervals.

A good, purely SQL, solution to this would be to code a stored 
procedure that is guaranteed to hand out successive numbers, and then 
you can use that to do the arithmetic you've done already.  You'd 
want another table that stores the current value of your counter, and 
your entry data process would get the next number for your next entry 
and update the table.  You could do it by finding the maximum number 
already allocated in your table and add one (or whatever).

If you're prepared to bet the ranch on having one reading every month 
without fail, you could find the lowest date and then generate an 
integer singly increasing index on month's since first date.  That'd 
be two more SQL selections.

The problem with what you've done is that there's no guarantee that 
it'll continue to work.  It probably will, by the looks of it, but 
it's only a fortunate side effect of something that is not 
guaranteed.

In a business environment you'd get fired for something like that, 
and quite rightly!  In an amateur environment, you're getting away 
with it, which might be good enough for you.

The next alternative is pulling the data in date order (yes, I know 
it's almost certainly in date order already, but if you don't make 
sure then you can never enter historical data [you're sure to miss 
entry for some reason some day]), and then run through the table 
doing the sum between last month's data and this month's.

Of course, if you do ever enter data out of order the first strategy 
here won't work, or you'd have to manually reallocate your sequence 
numbers.

Regards
Mark



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Other SQL question as it affects Base

2012-07-31 Thread Mark Stanton
I'm listening very closely.

Your strategy is based on the assumption that consecutive readings 
have consecutive primary keys.  Not even just being in the right 
order, they have to be consecutive integers for your strategy to 
work.  This elevates the primary key from internal workings to 
data.  Your strategy is based on the specific values of those 
numbers.

That's not what table primary keys are intended for in the relational 
database model.

As I said in my previous post, it sort of works, and happens to work 
reliably enough for you in your situation.  That's fine.

You say you're a mathematician.  Does coincidental relationship bear 
mathematical scrutiny as a general strategy in that context?

Regards
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Cannot access my database file!

2012-08-25 Thread Mark Stanton
I suspect Dan is saying that memory per object needs to be bigger 
than the biggest picture you've got in there.

For future reference, it's not a good idea to store big binary data, 
or, imnvho, any binary data, in database tables, certainly not in the 
hsqldb tables that LO uses as internal.  Store names of files not 
the files themselves.  You can get trouser pockets big enough for 
beach balls, but it's not a great idea.

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[libreoffice-users] Mailmerge from query broken in 3.4.6?

2012-09-28 Thread Mark Stanton
Using a mailmerge document that worked fine in the previous version 
(no, I don't know the number, but very recent, I'm getting updates 
through the Fedora repos) hardly works at all now.

The document is an address sheet with three of images.  It uses 
hidden paragraphs for almost every line, and the images.  

The data navigator shows the correct data, the result of a query.

Mailmerge gets the first line of the address correct, and nothing 
else.

Some fields appear as field names (eg Address1)(yes, I do have 
View Fieldnames turned off), some fields appear as data from a row 
(always the same one) that isn't even in the result set...

This is very peculiar.  Is this is a known issue?  Surely not.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Mailmerge from query broken in 3.4.6?

2012-09-28 Thread Mark Stanton
Ok, a little more information, because I've now fixed the problem and 
have a bit more idea of the scope of the mess, which is huge, I'd 
say.

This mailmerge is linked to a query in a MySQL database.

My query couldn't use the query wizard (Andreas won't be surprised).  
In coding the query I wrote the field names in camelcase (eg 
Address1, PersonName), the actual database fields are all in 
lowercase.  Changing this made the mailmerge show data.
However, the query worked prior to that, and in fact the hidden 
paragraph conditions worked correctly, even though they were also in 
camelcase.

Interestingly, calculated fields given camelcase names with AS 
work!  Uncalculated fields given names (eg `Address1` AS `Address1`) 
don't.

Interestingly, again, it seems that some conditional statements don't 
work the way they used to, either.

Am I talking complete rubbish here, or are others finding similar 
things?

Regards
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mailmerge from query broken in 3.4.6?

2012-09-28 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Dan,

The only language I'm aware of that has a difference between single 
and double quotes is PHP, and that's only between what it does with 
strings rather than whether it recognises them as strings or not.  I 
expect there will be some, my preference is single to reduce screen 
clutter.  I'm certainly not aware that SQL makes any distinction.  
The query with single quotes, is producing the correct results (as 
verified against a separate system).

I only do this run once every couple of months so I don't rememebr 
the conversations, but I don't think mailmerge can use a view, can 
it?

Yeah, I've seen what they've done to camelcase.  I've not seen any 
camels with lower case heads... ;-)

I can't imagine that the Fedora repo has caused a problem either.

Regards
Mark



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mailmerge from query broken in 3.4.6?

2012-09-28 Thread Mark Stanton
If we're not a database, and we're not a mailmerge engine, we're 
running out of functionality... :-s

I've managed to get it doing this non-trivial task without error, so 
I'm fairly pleased.  I haven't got the pinpoint accuracy requirement, 
so I don't know if it's playing me about there.

Really it shouldn't accept case-incorrect fieldnames, so at least 
it's halfway to being good, it's just that that progression broke my 
code :-(

Thanks for the other references too.

Regards
Mark



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mailmerge from query broken in 3.4.6?

2012-09-28 Thread Mark Stanton
Thanks for that Girvin.

In fact my query does have the quotes around field names.
I've included it at the bottom here.

I haven't noticed any difference between  `  (backtick) or either 
usual type of quotation mark either.

I appear to be using the MySQL JDBC driver, com.mysql.jdbc.Driver, 
which *may* be new since I last ran this query, so it might be Java 
causing the problem.

It'll get to the top of my todo list eventually ;-)

Mark Stanton
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SELECT LTRIM( CONCAT( `people`.`Title`, ' ', 
LTRIM( `people`.`Firstname` ), ' ', 
LTRIM( `people`.`Surname` ) ) ) AS `PersonName`,
`people`.`PersonId`, `issues`.`iId` AS `iiID`, `issues`.`Issue`,  
  `people`.`LastIssue`, `subscription`.`iId` AS `subiId`, 
`subscription`.`Type`, `subscription`.`AdType`, 
`subscription`.`Delivery`, `subscription`.`Issues`, 
`subscription`.`StartingAt`, `address`.`Company` AS `Co`,   
`Address1` AS `Address1`, `Address2`, `Address3`, `City`, 
LTRIM( `Area` ) AS `Area`, `Country`, `PostalCode`, 
`sent`.`iId` AS `SendId`, `sent`.`NumberSent`, 
LEFT( `textvalues`.`Text`, 1 ) AS `Text`, 
LastIssue=Issue AND Type=2 AS RenewalDue 
FROM `people` 
JOIN `subscription` ON `people`.`iId` = `subscription`.`iPeopleId` 
JOIN `sent` ON `sent`.`iSubId` = `subscription`.`iId` 
JOIN `issues` ON `sent`.`iIssueId` = `issues`.`iId` 
JOIN `address` ON `people`.`iId` = `address`.`iParentId` 
JOIN `textvalues` ON `textvalues`.`Id` = `subscription`.`Type` 
WHERE `issues`.`Issue` = '74' AND `sent`.`sent` = 0 AND 
`Delivery` = 1 AND `textvalues`.`Field` = 'CBOSUBTYPE' 
ORDER BY `FirstName`, `Surname`



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mailmerge from query broken in 3.4.6?

2012-09-29 Thread Mark Stanton
Thanks Don,

I'll have a scout about.

Regards
Mark



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[libreoffice-users] Import XML files?

2012-10-03 Thread Mark Stanton
I've got an XML file (I've generated myself, programmatically).

I thought it ought to be easy to import it in LO (3.4.6), somehow.  I 
thougth Calc would be a good bet, but it just gives me General I/O 
error.  Base does the same.

The website 
(help.libreoffice.org/Common/About_Import_and_Export_Filters) 
suggests it ought to be doable but gives no details whatsoever.

Anyone got any pointers I could use?

Regars
Mark Stanton



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Re: [libreoffice-users] documentation for LO base

2012-10-04 Thread Mark Stanton
As well as existing guides by Andrew Pitonyak and others.

Mark



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Import XML files?

2012-10-04 Thread Mark Stanton
 Have you tried with a recent release of LibO? 3.4.6 is pretty old

It's the current release from the Fedora repo.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update SQL does nothing using Run SQL directly button

2012-10-04 Thread Mark Stanton
And, as a stylistic suggestion, don't use a separate field for 
transaction year, calculate it from transaction date.  The reason is 
that you've created a new classs of issue for yourself by doing this, 
keeping two fields in step.

In general it's best to store basic data and calculate subsidiary 
data from it, don't store subsidiary data.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Import XML files?

2012-10-04 Thread Mark Stanton
Thanks for that Steve.

It looks like this is saying that OO/LO needs a specific template for a 
specific input, is that the case?
I hope not, XML is supposed to be a self defining file format surely?  A 
general importer ought to be easy, no?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Import XML files?

2012-10-04 Thread Mark Stanton
Ok, I'll put it on the list.

Visual FoxPro (for example) has a built in function, XMLTOCURSOR, 
which takes a string or filename and produces a table.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] documentation for LO base

2012-10-04 Thread Mark Stanton
 Question:  How many people do you know use Base, or have tried to use 
 Base?

Whilst there is some quite valid criticism of Base, I don't think answering 
this question says as much about Base as it does about the general usage
of databases.  They are less familiar than word processors, spreadsheets or 
drawing packages.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base - need to re-point a form

2012-10-18 Thread Mark Stanton
Is this after you've switched to using a different copy?
It sounds like you have had read/write access in the past, is that 
right?  If so, what changed?

How do you know it's read only?
If your form won't let you change the data it's a local issue, if you 
can save but it makes no difference presumably thems who are 
administering the MySQL have set something.

Often the reason for having read only access through Base is that the 
table in question doesn't have a primary key defined, but if you've 
had write access before and nothing else has changed that would be 
unlikely.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Cannot add primary key after saving without primary key.

2012-10-23 Thread Mark Stanton
Whilst it is recommended that every table should have a primary key 
field, as far as I know HSQLDB is the only engine to enforce this by 
refusing to allow changes to tables not having one.

I certainly think that the code ought to be fixed so that database 
engines that require the field shouldn't allow table creation without 
it.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base Form behavior.

2012-12-06 Thread Mark Stanton
Hank Alper wrote:
 I have observed some strange behavior, however,when using the triangular
 widgets in the navigation bar at the bottom of the forms. For example, when
 I open a form which maintains tables currently containing  201 records, the
 navigation bar indicates 1 of 41 records.As I click my way toward the end

It should (?) be easy to find the number of rows without having a big time 
consuming operation to do it, database engine APIs often provide a function 
for this.  Yes, please put in a change request.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base Compact and Shutdown

2012-12-31 Thread Mark Stanton
Even if it existed, I would be quite surprised if such a thing is 
necessary for MySQL.

Looking through the (5.1) manual, the only references to compact 
(as a verb) as to do with dumping data and a storage structure 
option.  There is nothing (that I can see) listed for it as a 
shutdown option.

It's the difference between an embedded database file and a 
database engine.  MySQL is a database engine.  You only need to send 
it requests and get answers back from it.  Otherwise it does all its 
own housekeeping and management.  You don't tell it to compact its 
data.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base Report Builder

2013-01-21 Thread Mark Stanton
 If you really need to rely on your data keeping its coherency and
 consistency, my advice would be not to use the default hsqldb/ODB pair
 that is provided as the default. It is a shame really, as hsqldb in
 itself, certainly in its 2.0 version, is a capable db engine. It is just
 the integration with AOO/LO that is one of the root causes of many of
 the problems that users experience.

Isn't hsqldb *still* a (relatively) good choice, as long as it is installed and 
used *external* to Base?  That does of course mean it's still not the default 
setting.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base Report Builder

2013-01-27 Thread Mark Stanton
And to allay your fears a little Hank,

the job of moving your *data* to a new back end can be as easy as 
dragging and dropping tables.  Setting up the new back end might 
introduce you to some new ideas so it might take a little to get your 
head around it, but once that's done it might not be hugely 
difficult.

It's possible, of course, that there will be some little niggling 
problems that need to be resolved manually, but it's possible that 
the move can go relatively smoothly and easily.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Development of Extensions for LibreOffice

2013-02-04 Thread Mark Stanton
Qt isn't a programming language Tom, it's a UI framework (written in 
C++).

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Re: [libreoffice-users] MariaDB 5.5.33 Now Available

2013-09-19 Thread Mark Stanton
Fedora has also switched.

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[libreoffice-users] Good mailmerge, well done mailmerge... Errr, not quite

2014-01-31 Thread Mark Stanton
I was amazed to find that the save document option at the end of 
the mailmerge will save directly to a pdf file if I put that in as 
the file extension.

Unfortunately, the first page is portrait when all the rest are 
(correctly) landscape :-(

Has anyone else had this problem or have I done something wrong?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Good mailmerge, well done mailmerge... Errr, not quite

2014-02-01 Thread Mark Stanton
Err, what settings do you mean?
I tried this twice.  Both times only the first sheet was landscape, 
all the others were portrait, which is the layout of the Writer merge 
document.  What settings should I check?

It's a mailmerge of a single address sheet with a query that holds 
(at the moment) 223 rows.

This is LO 4.1.4.2 under Fedora 19 x86_64

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Good mailmerge, well done mailmerge... Errr, not quite

2014-02-02 Thread Mark Stanton
Doh!

I meant, of course, only the first sheet was *portrait* all the 
others were, correctly, *landscape*.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Good mailmerge, well done mailmerge... Errr, not quite

2014-02-04 Thread Mark Stanton
 I think that is what Anne-ology is alluding to.

Ah, ok, I didn't know that, thanks.

However, the situation is that if I save the output of the mailmerge directly 
as a pdf (good 
LO, I didn't know that was a possibility) I get this behaviour, whereas if I 
save the exact 
same mailmerge output as an odt document and then save *that* as a pdf, all the 
pages are, 
correctly, landscape.

It is a single page document that I mailmerge from, tho' I s'pose that could 
still have a 
first page options set.  However, the fact that there is a difference between 
the two 
different save strategies, surely, indicates a bug. Doncha think?

Sounds like no-one else has come across this behaviour though.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Company Move: Need to Know

2014-04-03 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Sqwuiddy,

I think you'd be best hiring someone in for a few days to help you 
with this. There are several questions that need answers to help 
further.

In general you should be ok on many of these things, I'm not certain 
about all of them.

Nested IF statements do work.

Where is the data that you're merging? How are you accessing it? It 
sounds like you know what you're doing with data in general, so it 
might just be an LO-related issue. Incorrectly accessing that data 
often results in not merging. When you say none of the merge fields 
merged, what, precisely, happened?

Sorry, I don't have time for more.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] RTF support

2011-07-01 Thread Mark Stanton
I don't (entirely) disagree with you on the dirty trick front.
But what an interesting world we live in when an unpleasantly dirty 
trick like that is seen as a legitimate tool...

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[libreoffice-users] Given up spellchecking?

2011-07-22 Thread Mark Stanton
Writer seems to have stopped spellchecking, even though I have the 
standard dictionary set correctly (I think, to English -UK), and all 
the other language options I can find being set correctly, and in 
fact set the same way as before it (recently) stopped spell checking.

A manual spell check finds no errors whatsoever (I've put some in, 
to make sure), there are no words underlined in red to indicate 
misspelling, and if I put in an incorrectly spelled word, LO doesn't 
complain.

More than that, each time I access the dialog (sic :-) ) to set the 
hyphenating, it presents itself as English (USA), however many 
times I set it to English (UK).

This is LO 3.3.2, under Fedora (15).
It was working until very recently.  A large proportion of KDE has 
updated in the last couple of days, but I don't see that this should 
have a bearing on this part of LO.

Any ideas?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Given up spellchecking?

2011-07-23 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Both (all in fact)

This seems to be the crux of it.

 On my system
 Ubuntu/Pinguy 11.04, LO 3.4.1) the spell checker is Hundspell. 

Hunspell isn't appearing in the list of Available language modules, 
whereas it does on my Windoze setup.  It looks like it's been vaped. But 
how do I get it back?  I've been wandering around the filesystem looking 
for something that sounds like spelling, but I can't find it.

The edit option on that dialogue edits the available modules.  Those are 
the ones that insist in being in English (US) even when I change them to 
English (UK).

?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Given up spellchecking?

2011-07-25 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Tom,

Thanks for taking the time with this one.

 I am sure it's something to do with just settings.  There was a thread about 
 it 
 a few months ago.  Webmaster at Kracked Press had a good answer but i can't 
 find the thread.  

I'll have a look.

 I don't know if this is it but in
 Tools - Options - LibreOffice - Paths
 is AutoCorrect set at something like
 /home/username/.libreoffice/3/user/autocorr

Yup.  Although there are no files in that directory.  Perhaps that's not 
important.

 Also in 
 Tools - Options - LibreOffice - Language Settings - Languages
 there are 4 drop-downs.  The top one often reverts to English (USA)

I can't get it to say anything else.  Where can a reset a language to give me 
more options for 
this dropdown?  I've reset the locale  language in Fedora, that doesn't seem 
to do it! :-(

 But i 
 think they all 'should' be on Default - English (UK) ecept currency which 
 'should' by Default - GBP 

Default doesn't seem to be an option, they're all countries  currencies.  Mine 
is set to GBP.

 In the top box of the 3 boxes in 
 Tools - Options - LibreOffice - Language Settings - Writing Aids
 I have Hunspell SpellChecker ticked. 

This seems to be the crux of it.  Hunspell doesn't appear in that box, and I 
don't see any way 
to add it, from this dialogue anyway.


 In the middle box i have 4 
 dictionaries ticked
 standard [ALL]
 soffice [ALL]
 technical [ALL]
 IgnoreAllList [ALL]

I have added a couple of dictionaries, but I have these you mention too.


 In the bottom box i have ticked check spelling as you type along with most 
 of 
 the rest of them except Check words with numbers and Hyphenate without 
 inquiry.  

Yup, pretty much my setup too.


 I have CC'd the message directly to you in the hope that you get the attached 
 screen-shots that way in case they look completely different from yours.

Nope, not got that.

Im haste
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Footnote page space (Writer)

2011-08-02 Thread Mark Stanton
This obviously really caught the general interest... Not.

I've looked a little further, and it seems to be a fixed limit, 9.99 
cm maximum space for footnotes, despite the default option when 
suggests most of the page could be available.

I tried changing the display units to inches, in case the spinner in 
the footnote space dialogue was just limited to one digit before 
the decimal place and two after it, but no, when the inch is the unit 
of display the maximum space that can be set for footnotes is three 
point something, which looks suspiciously like 9.99 centimetres.

This isn't very good.  I don't mind it not suppling what I want, it 
is after all a little unusual (I'm trying to mimic the layout of the 
nineteenth century book that the text comes from), but LO suggests 
that it will do what I want while clear refusing to do it. :-(

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Given up spellchecking?

2011-08-03 Thread Mark Stanton
I had a look at this and it really is in the too hard category.  
Loads of files and directories where you mention, just trying to work 
out which ones should and shouldn't be hanging around was making my 
head hurt.

On the other hand, the speel chucker is quite useful.

I'll have apply myself to it when I've got some time free (hah!).
If the next Fedora repository update doesn't clear it up, maybe I'll 
just remove it completely and reinstall to see if that'll do it. :-(

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Footnote page space (Writer)

2011-08-03 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Tom,

Err, wot?  Never mind, it's very much a document so I'm sticking with 
Writer.

I`m actually using the context menu (right click on the page) and 
selecting page from there, but it comes to the same dialogue.

Ok, a bit more research and some interesting results.

Another document, just the default page size (A4, 8.27 x 11.69 inches 
with 0.79 inch margins all round) has a different, seemingly random, 
size.  The maximum footer size I can put in is 8.01 inches, or 20.36 
cm, so at least that dispels the one figure plus two decimal places 
idea.

My real document is set up as 4.53x7.32 (WxH) with margins of 
0.65, 0.95, 0.98 and 1.01 (I know, but that`s what the book I`m 
replicating appears to look like). The largest footnote space I can 
specify is 3.93.  Header is on but not footer.  I can`t see anywhere 
that defines the space the header will occupy.  The spacing to 
footnote contents is a paltry 0.04

?
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.2 Spellcheck Not Working....

2011-08-12 Thread Mark Stanton
Not working here.
LO 3.3.3, Fedora 15 (Linux)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] installing issues fedora 14

2011-08-14 Thread Mark Stanton
It might be a good idea to upgrade to Fedora 15.
The Live Upgrade does it on the fly, and worked perfectly for me 
at least.

I think you'll find that LibreOffice isn't in the Fedora14 
repositories, which will be where your package maanger is looking, 
but it is in the F15 ones.

I'm relatively new to Linux too and tried to install LO by 
downloading the file from the LO website and installing that, I have 
some problems now because of it (perhaps), so I'd recommend the F15 
- LO route.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice-Base CPU usage

2011-09-18 Thread Mark Stanton
To be clear, Don only needs to have the Java box ticked when opening 
Base AND using a backend that requires Java, like HSQL.

As for your second paragraph, I suspect you meant but opening WRITER 
won't... ?  If so, the answer is probably no.  LO isn't a 
collection of unrelated apps, it's a suite, at least inasmuch as it 
only has one set of options for some things, like using Java.  It 
looks to me like these options are stored at the user level so he 
could set up a second user, bit of a nuisance but that could do it I 
think.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base - using external database tables

2011-10-13 Thread Mark Stanton
I think the simple answer to your question (Is this the same in LO) 
is yes.  But, as others have suggested, it is because you haven't 
quite got the right way of looking at it.

Using a database rather than a spreadsheet allows you to group things 
according to the content of the data rather than where it is.

With a database you can pull out any of subset of your data by 
selecting a group according to one of it's unique factors, for 
example select all phone numbers from people in the advanced group 
(for example) because you have a field in your data for advanced 
group, not because all those people are in a separate file.
I've worked on large databases written by so-called professionals 
which used tables to separate data, and it is almost always just 
slower and more complicated than arranging the data better.

I'd guess from some of the things you've said in your last mesage 
that you've read Mariano Casanova's Step by Step guide to Base.  It 
has a very good section on organising data that I think will make 
your life much easier.

In general it looks like Base (either LO or OOO) only accesses one 
database at a time.  You probably want to stop thinking so much about 
files since the concept doesn't help very much in most of the 
context of what you want to do.

As a last note, I'm using a MySQL backend under Fedora and no, it's 
not fast.  I'll look into why, but I wonder if it's the JSQL 
interface too.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base slowness and Java update

2011-10-14 Thread Mark Stanton
I think you will find that most of the industry, and nearly all of 
the open source community will be very unlikely to believe what 
Oracle says on this subject.  It would be wise to consider that they 
may have a point.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base: creating a dropdown field form

2011-10-29 Thread Mark Stanton
 Here is where I think we're getting mixed up. The contents of the combobox.
 I want the contents of the ComboBox to be Singstar 80s, Singstar 90s,
 Singstar Amped that's it. I don't want to fill it is the contents of
 another table or field. I just want to enter in a choices literally. This is
 the problem I'm having. Very simple situation.

If the contents of the combobox isn't a property of your list of 
tracks/discs/whatever, what use is it?  If it's something to do with your data, 
then it's got to be in your data.  If it's in your data, pull it out and 
populate the combobox with it.  If it isn't in your data, even if you type it 
in 
manually, how are you going to use it?

At a wild guess, you've got codes in your data representing these categories.  
If that's the case, create a lookup table and put your code/text 
correspondences 
in there.

Or have I guessed wrong?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] testing out 2 new large word list English dictionaries.

2011-11-02 Thread Mark Stanton
So, since I do actually use my Writer setup in my business, is it 
going to be easy to revert to my current working dictionary/thesaurus 
if I want?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] testing out 2 new large word list English dictionaries.

2011-11-06 Thread Mark Stanton
Sorry to hear you (?) have been ill.

I think you'll find Brian was just pulling your leg about your use of 
English, rather than asking you anything about specific word counts.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] 98, 000+ word list British dictionary, hyphen, thesaurus dictionary

2011-11-08 Thread Mark Stanton
I'd be happy to have the largest list you can comfortably make.

Will it be easy to switch between them if I need or want to?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Changing date on a chart

2011-12-09 Thread Mark Stanton
Use a database.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Changing data on a chart

2011-12-11 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi John,

I'm aware my answer was a little short, sorry.  I've spent most of my 
time writing databases rather than using LO, which means I don't know 
about putting a chart on a base document, however the easy way (I'd 
guess) is to set up a spreadsheet that asks for and pulls the data 
required, and then you're back into familiar territory.

Sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine, using a spreadsheet as a database. 
Don't mind me, just getting grumpy :-(

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base can't open databases

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Stanton
It's hard to think of a situation that would truly benefit from the 
data being in an odb.  Specific database engines manipulate their own 
data much better than... Almost anything.

You can do by extracting the data from your current database and 
putting it into HSQL.  I believe Base does actually store that data 
in the .odb file.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base can't open databases

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Stanton
If I'm not mistaken (although I might be and I haven't got the time 
to go back and check) and odb file is effectively a zip file with 
various things in it.

As Tom said, LO ( Ooo, of course) really doesn't have a database 
section.  It has a gateway to a database, in fact different adapters 
for various databases.  This is really very sensible in most ways.  
It just talks to a database engine that is specifically built to do 
the data work and just gives back results.

I believe HSQL is a cut down database, on the basis that a lot of 
the bells and whistles of a full database engine aren't required by 
small applications.  Hence it's a small, fast database, without it's 
own data storage, I imagine, since the data for it *is* kept in the 
odb file.

I hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong in the technical details 
here.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base can't open databases

2011-12-15 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Alex,

 Hmm, I wouldn't say cut down, it is actually rather good,

I understand that it *is* good.  As I understand it the cut-down-ness 
contributes to the good-ness, or at least that was part of the design 
goal.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base/SQL help

2012-01-03 Thread Mark Stanton
The SQL is something like

SELECT TOP 2 * FROM yourtable
ORDER BY counter, DESC
WHERE ip = selected ip

depending, as Jay says, on your SQL engine.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Multiple select field in Base forms

2012-01-13 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Marni,

I think that what you are wanting should be doable, but you're not 
clear enough for me to be more helpful.

Can you give a clear example of what you want to do and then perhaps 
I/we can help you out better.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Multiple select field in Base forms

2012-01-14 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Marni,

Thanks for that.
Still looks a bit vague, but I haven't seen the form yet, I'll have a 
look later.

This is basic database stuff that any database can/should do.  The 
effort of making them do it for end users will be the difference 
between them.

As I said, unless someone else beats me to it, I'll have a stab at it 
later (I'm also a musician, so that might help :-) )

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Multiple select field in Base forms

2012-01-15 Thread Mark Stanton
In general terms, Jay's given you the answer.

To be a little more specific, here's an outline.

You have a music table.
It has columns

id (some people would call it musicid), integer will probably be ok
title
composer
arranged
publisher
name of collection
file number (what's this?  Is it vital?)
Instrument notes (hmmm, probably, if this pertains only and 
necessarily to a specific piece of music)

You have an instrument table.  It fields

id (those same people would probably call it instrumentid), integer
instrument

Then, to associate instruments with pieces of music you'd have an 
instrumentLink table.  It's fields are

id (instrumentlinkid)   integer
musicid integer
instrumentidinteger


Then, when you want to know which instruments are required for a 
specific piece of music you ask

SELECT title, instrument FROM music
JOIN instrumentlink ON instrumentlink.musicid = music.id
JOIN instrument ON instrument.id = instrumentlink.instrumentid

And then similarly for seasons  occasions.
To come back to what I suspect was the actual thrust of your initial 
post, I think (think being very operative here) you can have a 
multi-select dropdown box, so you can scrap the (very untidy) other 
and additional boxes for instruments.  I think you can get LO to 
handle setting each relevant line in such a dropdown box when the 
links are already made.  I think you'll need to write a little bit 
of code to crete those links when you're setting up a piece of music.

Entirely resist the thought that some things are so fixed (seasons, 
for example) that you don't need a table and you can hard code them.  
Next thing you know you'll be up on a high place being shown all the 
peoples of the earth.

Does that do it?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

2012-01-20 Thread Mark Stanton
 Forums usually allow the hard-core mailing-list fans to subscribe
 to one, many or all threads in the forum so the net result would be
 about the same for you.

It really isn't the same.  You've got to go to the forum to see what the 
conversation is to then subscribe to a thread.  All the time.  And even if it 
does email you about messages in a thread, you have to go to the forum to 
reply, 
and sometimes to view the message too.  A mailing list delivers it all to your 
own mailbox and then you can have your evil way with it there.

I'm not arguing against changing to forums (although I'm not very keen on them 
for the same reasons that Brad puts forward), I'm just reiterating that they 
REALLY are very different in the way one interacts with them.

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[libreoffice-users] Base question - report exception on faultless query

2012-01-26 Thread Mark Stanton
I'm trying to produce a report based on a query, trying to being 
the operative phrase.

I have a query, it works just fine.

I use the report wizard to produce a report based on the query (I 
haven't worked out how to do that manually yet).  It presents me with 
the correct fields.  I've arranged them the way I want them, at least 
in a very basic form 'cos I'm still testing.

Running the report gives me four errors, SQL status S1000 An error 
occurred while creating the report, An exception of type 
com.sun.star.lang.WrappedTargetException was caught. (Alright, that 
was info, not strictly speaking an error I s'pose), and two errors 
that both say Syntax error in SQL expression.

What SQL expression would that be then?  Since my query runs 
correctly?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base question - report exception on faultless query

2012-01-27 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Dan,

Thanks for your reply.  Yes, it was a bit short on details, but I 
thought there were enough, obviously not.

I had the query set for Do not analyze, which I thought would stop 
Base from inspecting the SQL, but apparently not.

I'm using MySQL via the jDBC... Thingy.
In fact the piece it was complaining about was where I was using 
CAST, incorrectly, to match a text field containing numbers to a 
numeric field.  Funnily enough MySQL by itself was able to cope with 
this and execute the query correctly, but Base decided to interfere.

It also fails to understand the MySQL TRIM function, although LTRIM 
is recognised.  Again this is with Analyze set to NO.  This seems 
incorrect to me.  However, this has resolved the issue for me and I 
can now get it to work.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Base question - report exception on faultless query

2012-01-27 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Dan,

Ok, here's the query.

SELECT  CONCAT(people.Title, ' ', LTRIM(people.Firstname), ' ', 
LTRIM(people.Surname)) AS PersonName, 
people.PersonId, issues.iId AS iiID, issues.Issue, 
people.LastIssue,
subscription.iId AS subiId, subscription.Type, 
subscription.AdType,
subscription.Delivery, subscription.Issues, 
subscription.StartingAt,
address.Company, Address1, Address2, Address3, City, 
Area, Country, PostalCode,
sent.iId AS SendId, sent.NumberSent,
textvalues.Text 
FROMpeople 
JOIN subscription   ON people.iId   = subscription.iPeopleId 
JOIN sent   ON sent.iSubId  = subscription.iId 
JOIN issues ON sent.iIssueId= issues.iId 
JOIN addressON people.iId   = address.iaParentId 
JOIN textvalues ON textvalues.Id= subscription.Type 
WHERE issues.Issue = '70' AND textvalues.Field = 'CBOSUBTYPE' 
ORDER BYFirstName, Surname

It's producing an address list of subscribers to the next (here 
hard-coded as '70', until I find out how to pass a parameter to a 
query from a report, or at least in conjunction with a report) to 
print address sheets.  It's originally from my own (Visual FoxPro) 
application that runs our magazine subscriptions.  It's now in 
transition to LO :-)

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[libreoffice-users] Not printing Base fields

2012-01-27 Thread Mark Stanton
I *want* to omit empty fields from my report.

I'm using the report writer to print address labels (sheets really, 
but it's largely the same thing).

I want to print name, company, address lines 1, 2  3, tc.
If there's no company name I want the whole line omitted.  I don't 
mean don't print any text, I mean omit the whole line, so there is no 
space between name and the first address line.  Is this possible with 
LO Base? 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Not printing Base fields

2012-01-27 Thread Mark Stanton
 Hidden fields are the answer.

Ah, yes.  But that then puts me in your boat, not being able to mailmerge 
from a query.

I suppose, if the view things turns out not to work, a 
function/produced/thing could be written that ran the query, exported the 
results to a csv file with a name that had already been registered for the 
mailmerge wizard, and then run the mailmerge.

Bit of a long way round :-(

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge print from Query instead of table.

2012-01-27 Thread Mark Stanton
 I thought it was better practice to use Queries than Tables to build
 report/forms/mail-merge from and then print the result?

That's his whole point.  Mailmerge doesn't appear to be able to use queries.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Base - calculating dates

2012-01-28 Thread Mark Stanton
I think (without actually having tried it) that just adding numbers 
to a date field will do what you want, so your date field+365 
should give you the year in advance date

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Base - calculating dates

2012-01-30 Thread Mark Stanton
Use MySQL with PERIOD_ADD(P,N) to add N months to the date P

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Re: [libreoffice-users] create mailmerge with spreadsheet librecalc without using libre base ! pls help how to do it TQ

2012-02-02 Thread Mark Stanton
Wow!

Just to be absolutely crystal clear, when you say

 If you need some fixed filters (for instance all rows where name, zip, 
 city and address are not empty), then you may add a query to the 
 database document and use the query instead of the table.

You are saying that it is possible to mailmerge using a query to supply the 
data?  I know that's what it looks like you said, but there's just been a 
long thread here that concluded this was not possible, so I'm just checking.
If so, is it new (3.4.5) functionality?

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[libreoffice-users] Mailmerge, working, fairly well, but...

2012-02-05 Thread Mark Stanton
Ok, I've got mailmerge working, fairly well, ish.

It seems a little unhelpful that the view field names overrides 
conditional hidden paragraphs, completely nullifies their effect even 
on printing it seems.  It cetainly should nullify their effect during 
edit, but not printing imnvho.

Anyway, what I need now is conditional hidden graphics according to 
database field.  Not pick a graphic, just show a selected graphic 
if a database field is a certain value.  In case you're wondering, 
this is so I can print either a first clas stamp image or second, 
depending whether the address is outside the UK.

Since the graphic isn't in a paragraph it looks like that strategy 
won't work, and I can't see another way of doing it at the moment.  
Macros?

TIA
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mailmerge, working, fairly well, but...

2012-02-07 Thread Mark Stanton
Thanks Fernand,

I'll go look.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mailmerge, working, fairly well, but...

2012-02-09 Thread Mark Stanton
Yup, same here.  I found nice manuals, but all just basic ones (not 
Basic), and no macros.
The forum post looks like it's got some useful ones, but no 
conditional pictures, unless I missed that.

Regards, and thanks
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mailmerge, working, fairly well, but...

2012-02-09 Thread Mark Stanton
The thing that started this thread though was my need for conditional 
pictures.  Can that be done without macros?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mailmerge, working, fairly well, but...

2012-02-09 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Fernand,

I'm quite happy with the (idea of the) macro solution, I was just 
interested if there was another simpler/easier one.

I really don't want to put images in a table, particularly in this 
case where the picture is either 'A' or 'B', although I s'pose if I 
can get it there as a result of a query it might be just about 
bearable.

What I'd really like is an image control with a conditional display 
expression.  I may try to produce one, but not for a while I think.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mailmerge, working, fairly well, but...

2012-02-09 Thread Mark Stanton
In article 4f342906.5010...@nouenoff.nl, Cor Nouws wrote:
 If there are few available pictures to choose from, it could work with 
 conditional hidden paragraphs.

Only two pictures, a first class stamp or a second class stamp, according 
to whether the address is outside or inside the UK, so it's very simple 
in that respect.

So, you're saying that I put the anchor point in a paragraph and making 
the paragraph hidden will hide the picture?

If that's right it should be fairly simple.  A bit of a nuisance because 
the two stamps will appear in (very) slightly different places on the 
page (one paragraph up or down), but I also don't care about such trivia.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mailmerge, working, fairly well, but...

2012-02-09 Thread Mark Stanton
In article jh1c19$53k$1...@dough.gmane.org, Alex Thurgood wrote:
 Agreed, but can you set it up to make the paragraph as invisible 
 depending on whether or not you have a varchar string ?

No, that's not quite my question.  There will *always* be a picture, and it 
is either a picture of a first class stamp or a second class one.  But I 
want whichever stamp it is to appear in (almost) the same place according to 
destination (international or domestic).  See my answer to Cor below.

I had thought the anchor point was outside the paragraph structure, but that 
appears not to be the case, and y'all seem to be saying that hiding or 
showing the paragraph that the anchor is in will hide or show the picture 
anchored to it.

If that's right, then that is my solution.

It would be much nicer to have an image field that could be conditionally 
hidden...

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[libreoffice-users] Tell me it's not true

2012-02-27 Thread Mark Stanton
When I select the dBase connector it seems to say that queries cannot 
contain more than one table.

Tekll me it's not true...
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Tell me it's not true

2012-02-28 Thread Mark Stanton
Thanks Andreas,

Unfortunately this isn't for a form, it's for a report.  Mebbe I'll 
start having a look at that code, being on Linux you're other 
suggestion doesn't help me :-(

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Tell me it's not true

2012-02-28 Thread Mark Stanton
I'm only talking about the dBase connector.
It sounds like there may be more to it than that from Andreas' reply, 
but I don't think it's anything major to worry about, except the 
dBase connector :-(

I'll have a look
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Tell me it's not true

2012-02-28 Thread Mark Stanton
That'll be a good stopgap, thanks.

What I'm trying to do is migrate slowly over from the dBase (VFP 
really) application that (I wrote that) runs one of our businesses, 
so just producing output with LO while still using FoxPro would be 
good.

I'll have a look at the code, but it looks like you're saying it's a 
slightly wider scope than just dBase.  Don't hold your breath :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Tell me it's not true

2012-02-28 Thread Mark Stanton
Thanks for that Andreas,

Hmmm, that document is nearly nine years old, nothing's happened with 
file based database access since then?

Ok, might as well start at the deep end I suppose.
Any pointers gratefully received, and in the meantime I'll start 
digging.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Tell me it's not true

2012-02-29 Thread Mark Stanton
 Create a brand new database (relational, embedded HSQLDB).
 Drag the table icons from your dBase connection into the new database.

Doing this now.  It lets me select all tables, but when I drag then it 
only brings over one :-(

And HSQL seems to require index names to be unique at the database level 
not the table level, is that right?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Tell me it's not true

2012-02-29 Thread Mark Stanton
 perhaps able to include some aspects of the
 spreadsheet paradigm to data manipulation.

That's an interesting thought.
What sorts of aspects do you have in mind?

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Parameterised query

2012-02-29 Thread Mark Stanton
B*m! :-(

Fixed it.  Wrong SQL mode selected, it seems.  Sorry.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Tell me it's not true

2012-02-29 Thread Mark Stanton
 Yes - It's one at a time.

Hmm, a shame but plausible.


  And HSQL seems to require index names to be unique at the database level 
  not the table level, is that right?
 
 Yes.

Isn't that a little... Non-standard?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Tell me it's not true

2012-02-29 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Drew,

 Not really...Also, normally one would allow the tool to generate unique
 index names - for example creating a FK relation will automatically
 create required indexes, adding a PK to a table also.

I'm a little surprised.  Although I've got over twenty years of database 
development experience, it is largely in FoxPro (a dBase improvement), 
although with a little of a few others. I've not seen, and certainly 
wouldn't want, an insistence on automatically named indices.


 And sorry if this is off track - but I just want to be sure that you are
 referring to index names and not column names

Yes, I'm definitely talking about index names.
I took up Andreas' idea of importing my dbase-type files into an HSQL LO 
database.  It didn't realise the tables already had primary key fields.  I 
usually call these iId (as integer ID fields), and so want an index 
(called iId) on each table. I can't do that in HSQL.

I know there's an idea that index names should include table names, which 
would completely eradicate the issue, it's just that I don't agree :-)

It's a (perhaps) interesting discussion point rather than a problem 
though.

Thanks for the info
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Tell me it's not true

2012-02-29 Thread Mark Stanton
 @Mark Stanton,
 Would you please visit us at 
 http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/index.php next time?

Coo, look at that!  A busy Base forum.  

I really much prefer stuff that arrives in my mailbox, but yes, I will visit 
there.  Thanks (again) Andreas.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Parameterised query

2012-02-29 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Fernand,

 ?Isssue_Num (3s) ?
   greetz
 Fernand

Thanks, but nope.  The name Issue_Num, just identifies a parameter, it 
doesn't have to match the name of any field.

The problem was the wrong SQL mode.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Tell me it's not true

2012-02-29 Thread Mark Stanton
 A database component without databases would be as interesting as a 
 spreadsheet without references.

That's true, but e-letter was talking about adding spreadsheet-type 
facilities, not taking away database-type ones.  In view of the 
previous thread, and general experience, suggesting that spreadsheet 
users sometimes want to make the jump to databases but find it 
difficult, I'm interested in thoughts about facilities that would help 
bridge that gap.  Particularly as I'm starting to do some Base 
development...

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