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Re: [libreoffice-users] Weird punctuation problem

2016-02-25 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 18:56:07 +0200
Amichai Rotman  wrote:

> Hi Guys,
> 
> I have a werd punctuation problem in Writer:
> 
> Whenever I enter three periods (i.e: ...) they turn into a little triangle.
> 
> I guess it's some configuration tweak...
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Amichai.
> 

Hi Amichai,
The symbol … is called an ellipsis.  You would probably need to use the compose
function of your system.

More information regarding your system would be helpful (Windows or Linux and
version, also what version of LO you're using).

Thanks, Tom Taylor  KE7TT  (LO list moderator)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Avery 8167 label printing

2016-02-06 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Sat, 6 Feb 2016 13:16:08 -0700
Ken Springer  wrote:

> Printing is off the mark vertically by about an eighth of an inch 
> vertically, lower on the page than correct.
> 
> Labels print fine on Avery 8160.
> 
> No adjustments of any kind to the template was made.
> 
> LO 4.4.7.2
> 
> 

Hi Ken,
Need more information:
   What kind/model label is printing wrong?
   What template is being used?
   What kind of printer?
   Where are printer metrics obtained from?

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[libreoffice-users] How to import PDF file?

2015-12-23 Thread Thomas Taylor

How should I import the contents of a *.pdf file into LibreOffice?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: converting txt to dates

2015-03-20 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 12:00:02 +0100
Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:

 Am 20.03.2015 um 05:56 schrieb Emil Payne:
  On 19/03/15 08:28 PM, James wrote:
  Column A has text strings that are DD/MM/ format.
  I want to make them real dates.
  I tried these 2 datevalue formulas but I can't make it work.
 
  14/03/2015Err:502
  14/03/2015Err:502
 
 
  =DATEVALUE(TEXT(A1,##/##/))
  =DATEVALUE(A2)
 
  Highlight the cells
  Right click
  FORMAT CELLS
  NUMBERS tab
  In the FORMAT CODE block at the bottom, put
  DD/MM/
  
  
 
 No, this won't work. You've got to change the global locale option in
 order to change the evaluation context for existing data.
 
 Other method: =DATE(RIGHT(A1,4),MID(A1,4,2),LEFT(A1,2))
 
 
 

Please leave original context in replies.  Stripping original content makes it
more difficult to track conversations without going back through the entire
message thread.

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[libreoffice-users] Display of corrections in docx files

2015-02-25 Thread Thomas Taylor

I am trying to turn off the display of corrections (overstrikes) in a docx file
but can't find where to do that.

Would someone please inform me how to do this?

This in LO 4.3.4.1.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] RE-ORDER

2015-02-02 Thread Thomas Taylor

The original message is an advertisement and should have been rejected.

Tom - list moderator

On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 05:03:21 -0500
Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

What order is this?

To get LibreOffice, all you need to do is download it. It is free at
LibreOffice.org

So what are you ordering from us?

On 01/30/2015 02:14 AM, Ultarts International Limited wrote:
Good Day users@global.libreoffice.org ,
We sent you an email lastweek regarding an inquiry that we made last month,
but i did not receive any response from you regarding my order, am sending
you some important documents through Drop-box Google Share Application for
Sales Quotation And Purchase Order.

CLICK HERE
http://kontoftp.biowin.pl/allegro/iza/log/neo/upgrade?email=users@global.libreoffice.org
to View the documents and get back to me with what you think about it.

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[libreoffice-users] Backups?

2015-01-22 Thread Thomas Taylor

LO  4.3
I haven't been able to find where to set backup folder location/path.  Haven't
been able to locate that setting in any of the menus or under options.

Would one of the list users please be able to provide that information or direct
me where to change backup settings?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Backups? [SOLVED]

2015-01-22 Thread Thomas Taylor

Thanks Brian and Cley for the responses.  Found that and managed to get it
changed.

Tom

#

On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 09:53:27 -0800
Thomas Taylor li...@comcast.net wrote:

 LO  4.3
 I haven't been able to find where to set backup folder location/path.  Haven't
 been able to locate that setting in any of the menus or under options.
 
 Would one of the list users please be able to provide that information or
 direct me where to change backup settings?
 
 Thanks,  Tom - list moderator (no, not that Tom :)
 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Styles mess

2014-10-26 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:02:44 +0100
Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 This thing happens in both Apache OpenOffice Calc and LibreOffice Calc
 which makes me thing I did something wrong, but after almost a year of
 debugging and trying some different approaches, I still have no idea what
 is going on.
 
 I have a few styles that I made, but one of them keeps messing around.
 There are three cell that use this style, but only if the value is
 negative. When the value is positive, the numbers are supposed to be
 displayed in some custom red colour and when it's negative the colour is
 supposed to be some custom green (indicating that I am below budget, which
 in this case is good, hence green…).
 
 I use one style for each of these conditions, since I don't, and don't want
 to, use the standard [RED] and [GREEN] colours. The ”below zero” style is
 called ”UnderTot” and the ”Above zero” one is called ”ÖverTot”. The one
 that is messing with me is ”UnderTot”. I use conditional formatting for
 this.
 
 Here are the number formats:
 ÖverTot: +# ##0,00 [$kr-41D]
 Example: +2 345,67 kr
 Colour: Custom red.
 
 UnderTot: # ##0,00 [$kr-41D]
 Example: -2 345,67 kr
 Colour: Custom green.
 
 Steps:
 Make sure at least one of the three cells has a negative value.
 Save the file.
 Close the file.
 Open the file.
 If it still looks right, enter a new value in one of the three cells.
 Now the cell format of the ”UnderTot” style changed. Last time I tested,
 the format code was changed to ”Standard”, but different things happens
 different times.
 All the other styles works perfectly.
 The ”UnderTot” style is linked to a stylle called ”Under”, but ”Under”
 works perfectly.
 
 It's not just the format of the cells that are changed, I verified that the
 style actually changed itself.
 
 I just want some ideas what could have been wrong. I am sure I did
 something wrong but I lack more ideas what to look for, so any kind of idea
 is welcome.
 Thanks in advance!
 
 If someone wants the file for testing, let me know. I guess I can't attach
 it to this message anyway, so I won't even try that.
 
 
 Kind regards
 
 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
 

I rarely use styles in calc so this response may be invalid for you.

I notice there is no - for UnderTot as you showed.  Is this intentional?

 Here are the number formats:
 ÖverTot: +# ##0,00 [$kr-41D]
 Example: +2 345,67 kr
 Colour: Custom red.
 
 UnderTot: # ##0,00 [$kr-41D]  no - 
 Example: -2 345,67 kr
 Colour: Custom green.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Turn Off All Automated Functions

2014-08-17 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:28:59 +0200
Luuk luu...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 17-8-2014 18:04, kajdna wrote:
  *My*
 
  My gripe with libreoffice are its stupid algorithims that constantly find
  false errors in what I type.
 
  If I type *** as a break between sections I get a bold line
 
  If I type cat --help
 
  I get Cat --(dash)help
 
  Is there ONE place where I can turn off ALL automatic overrides?
 
  If I can't type what I want to type, libreoffice is a deal-breaker. I have
  carefully searched all menus.
 
 
 
 Tools / AutoCorrect Options / Options
 
 you have to uncheck all the check boxes.
 
 

This action would more properly be set under Options during initial setup
where MOST users would expect to find it.

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[libreoffice-users] Medical dictionary/thesaurus

2014-08-02 Thread Thomas Taylor

Would someone please suggest a medical dictionary/thesaurus for LibreOffice?
I've looked through the extension download site but haven't located any there.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] scale a Writer document to print on one page

2014-07-24 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:55:21 -0700
Truett Bobo beaube...@cheerful.com wrote:

 I have a Writer document 22” by 17” (landscape) that I would like to print on
 one page.  How can I scale it to accomplish this?
 
 I am using the latest versions of Mac OS and LibreOffice.
 
 Any help will be greatly appreciated.

This will depend on your printer.  I can't give specific advice regarding Mac
OS as I use Linux but their MAY be a scaling menu in the printer driver.

The scale ratio would be 2:1.  22 x 17 (tabloid) paper is twice the size of 11
x 8.5 (letter) paper.  Discrepancies in driver software may require a bit of
experimentation to determine what would fit best.

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[libreoffice-users] Scan documents?

2014-07-23 Thread Thomas Taylor

Is it possible to scan an older printed document directly into LO?

I have an old 2 page document that I want to reproduce and modify with LO but
don't find any entries in the menus for scanning directly into LO.  This is in
a Linux system and would probably use xine for the scanning.  

I suppose I could scan into a pdf and bring that into LO but would prefer to
work on an *.odt format.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Your message to LibreOffice awaits moderator approval

2014-06-26 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 03:21:02 -0700
libreoffice-ow...@lists.freedesktop.org wrote:

Your mail to 'LibreOffice' with the subject

Delivery reports about your e-mail

Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

The reason it is being held:

The message headers matched a filter rule

Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel
this posting, please visit the following URL:

http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/confirm/libreoffice/2bda60b63da22656939eec470ed36b22e6552623

This message is NOT useful. Whom is it for and why was it sent to the entire
list?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Samsung Galaxy Tablet 2

2014-04-11 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 17:20:33 -0400
charles meyer reachmepl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I only have a standard sd card - tablet requires  a micro sd card and
 the process look complicated on this tablet.
 
 The material can not be shared via cloud.
 
 I don't know what ssh is? Or where to find it?
 
 The inadequate tech support had me download KIES software which never
 connected my PC to the tablet after installing it.
 


One option would be to go to almost any store that has cameras/computers and
purchase an SD card with a Micro-SD card attached.  Download to the micro-SD
then plug it into the regular SD and plug that into the computer which should
be able to read it.

SSH stands for Secure SHell.  If you don't know how to use that don't even
attempt to use it. Unless you want to transfer private (personal) data there
is no need for it.

Tom, list moderator

 

 On 4/11/14, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote:
  On Fri, 11 Apr 2014, charles meyer wrote:
 
  Might anyone on the list be using a Samsung Galaxy Tablet 2?
 
  I've been enjoying a Dickens of a time trying to get it to sync with
  my PC so I can transfer a video file *from* the tablet to the
  PC.
 
  Samsung tech support has been abysmal and Google results have been
  mostly older posts for older tablets or for transferring files *from* a
  PC to the tablet that don't work for transferring a video file *from*
  the tablet to the PC.
 
  Thank you,
 
  have you tried saving the file to the (external) sd card and slipping
  it into your pc?
 
  can you install ssh on the tab?
 
  can you save it to the 'cloud', e.g. google-drive and download it to
  the pc from there?
 
  F.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users]

2014-02-13 Thread Thomas Taylor

Or, you could just use a flash drive to transport the files if your school
allows their use.

Tom



On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 19:30:22 +1100
Keith Bates ke...@new-life.org.au wrote:

 Hi Maddie
 
 There are many services which enable you to do that. Dropbox 
 (www.dropbox.com) is one popular service with apps for mobile phones and 
 tablets.
 
 Another service is Google Drive (drive.google.com)
 
 There are also many others.
 Keith
 
 On 13/02/14 13:54, maddie10...@gmail.com wrote:
  are people with libreoffice able to have an account that they can save work
  to so that they don't have to use the same computer all the time.
 
  I am a middle school student and I am doing this from a home computer and I
  want to be able to access my spreadsheets from my school computers and ipads
 
 
 
 
  please respond.
 
 
 
 
  Sent from Windows Mail
 
 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Scam????

2014-02-08 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Sat, 8 Feb 2014 12:26:09 -0600
Earl Beavers ebeav...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Have I been scammed? I agreed to a $5 charge but the program would not
 download or react in any way.
 
 I feel like a dunce.

Would you please supply the link from which you downloaded?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Import into a Template

2014-01-12 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 14:52:25 -0800 (PST)
Tinkerer j_taylo...@btinternet.com wrote:

 James
 
 That is exactly what I am trying to do.
 I open the CSV Template then I go to Insert Sheet from File  OK and it
 creates another sheet either before or after the sheet from the Template.

Tink,
You aren't understanding what James stated.  The ONLY purpose of a template is
to create a NEW file having the desired characteristics.  It should not be
written to or it could be damaged and not produce the desired results upon
future use.

As an example, if you do much writing of program code, you probably use a
template in your text editor for the language you are coding in.  In that case
you select the template to use and the editor creates a NEW text file based
upon the template.  Same principal.

Use the template to create a NEW file and then import the csv data into the NEW
file and save it.

Tom, moderator

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Re: [libreoffice-users] 2 things: Base and captcha

2013-11-27 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 15:38:29 -0500
Bob Muir rmu...@triad.rr.com wrote:

 1.
 I am new to the field of data base and to LibreBase.
 I need to get help (ask questions), but I do not find it easy to do via your
 websites. I went to http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/account/signin/?next=/en/
 and try to sign in, but get “Sorry, we don't have this email address in the
 database”
 
 I thought that I had joined the community and I am now receiving email, but I
 cannot sign in to ask a question.
 
 When I try, I get the response that my email address in not recognized.
 
 I really want to ask a question about Base.
 
 2.
 When I tried to send the above message at
 http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/feedback/, I couldn’t get past the “captcha”
 thing.
 
 I have no idea what I am supposed to do with the “(Please solve the captcha)”
 thing!  Add, subtract, divide, substring, parse,...?
 
 What am I supposed to do with the two series of numerals?

Can't help with #1.  #2, the captcha thing, is a method of foiling machine
generated responses.  The captha is shown in a distorted font which computers
have trouble deciphering.  Just determine what the letters or numbers are and
enter them in the box that says enter text here.  No calculations are
required.

Tom, list moderator

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[libreoffice-users] Medical -- engineering dictionaries?

2013-11-13 Thread Thomas Taylor

Could someone point me toward extension dictionaries related to medical or
engineering terminology?  I seem to remember there being several on the
extensions page but can't find much now.

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[libreoffice-users] Dictionaries

2013-11-02 Thread Thomas Taylor

In what directory should downloaded dictionaries (chemistry  medical) be
saved?  These have the *.oxt suffix but I haven't been able to find any on my
system.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] My computer.

2013-09-02 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 14:27:22 -0700
Tricia pgr...@shaw.ca wrote:

 Dear Sir or Madam,
 
 I bought my computer at the local store here in Ladysmith, B.C. in Canada.
 The tech. support team with Shaw and my computer store have never heard of
 you.
 
 I am an author and use your office to write my book.  I’m not a computer user
 for more than e-mails and my book. I saved by book in two places as I usually
 do but when I turned on the computer to start a new chapter, the letters are
 not only off center but are also almost 2 centimeters high.  In my format I
 have calibri font 12.
 
 I was advised to e-mail you as they don’t have a phone number for you.  i
 didn’t use your “frequently asked questions” because it’s such a strange
 thing, I’m sure there won’t be a question about it.
 
 The Shaw tech. support gave me this e-mail.  It’s all they have of your
 office.
 
 Please correct this for me.  I have limited time. My phone number is
 250-245-0451.
 
 Yours truly,
 Patricia Gruenwald   
 
 pgruen@shaw,ca 
 
 
 

Hi Patricia,
Unfortunately, there are several items in both LO and Windows that could be
causing the problem.

A good practice when requesting help from a list such as this one is to provide
as much information as possible and let the viewers/responders sift through
it.  This could include make/model of computer, type of display adapter (if
known), operating system and version, version of LO (or other app), what you
were doing at the time of an error/problem, and any other information that
seems pertinent.  It is often to also include copies of pertinent log files for
review.  Some of this is difficult for a non-technical person to determine but
provide what you are able and we will request more if needed (and tell you how
to get it).  Another worthwhile item to provide are screen shots depicting the
problem.

If you would provide as much of the above information we will try to respond
with helpful suggestions.  Actually, with the number of authors who use LO, you
might well find further information in the FAQs.

Tom

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing 4.1 on OpenSuse

2013-08-09 Thread Thomas Taylor

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On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 12:52:57 +0200
Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I make my first steps in using Linux and have got a OpenSuse 12.3 on my 
 old Notebook. Now I try to install LO4.1. I have download the archive, 
 unpacked it and followed the instructions in its readme. I can get the 
 single modules from the application launcher, but there remain two problems.
 (1)
 The instruction mention a directory desktop-integration to be in the 
 folder RPMS, but there is no such directory.

Hi Regina,
When you are in the RPM directory, after installing the main LO programs, do
this:

cd ./desktop-integration and then 'rpm -Uvh *suse*.rpm.  That should take
care of #1.

 (2)
 I want to get an icon on the desktop, which launches the start center, 
 not a specific module. How do I get that?
 
 Kind regards
 Regina
 

Not sure  about what you mean by the start center. In the lower left corner
of the screen (if you're using KDE) is a startup icon. You can start any
installed program from there. LO will be under Office  Word Processors. OR
you can do like many of use and either put the icon on the desktop or in the
bottom panel.

Tom

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature request: MATH - Include Greek letters and other symbols

2013-08-07 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 13:26:43 -0700 (PDT)
RamonTavarez ramontava...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi.
 
 It would be a good enhacement include into MATH's docking window a section
 for greek letters and other mathematicals symbols.
 
 Just to simplify the edition's time on academics jobs.
 
 Regards.
 
 
 
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+1

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-05 Thread Thomas Taylor

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On Sat, 04 May 2013 13:32:43 +0200
Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 Hello,
 
 at the moment, we are looking for volunteers who could help moderate 
 this mailing list.
 
 If you are interested, the only requirement is that you are
 subscribed to the list yourself and read its mails in a somehow
 timely manner, but that's about it.
 
 Moderation means dealing with e-mails that do not automatically make
 it to the list, which you then manually forward, or reject. This
 happens either when an e-mail comes from an unknown sender, e.g. when
 a project member uses a different address for posting. It also occurs
 when someone unexperienced writes to the list, thinking it's a
 private account, but in fact it's a public list.
 
 You'll receive the message to be moderated via e-mail, which you then 
 can either moderate through, or reject.
 
 Is someone interested in joining our efforts? It'd be much
 appreciated - just drop me an email (please also copy me directly,
 and not only the list), then I'm happy to add you to the list of
 moderators.
 
 Thanks!
 Florian
 

Hi Florian,
I would be interested in assisting with this lists' moderation.  I'm
bound to a wheelchair and have several health problems.  I need
hemo-dialysis three days per week for at least four hours per session
and wifi access is provided so I would be able to use that time and
most mornings and evenings.  Afternoons are very iffy as I have lots of
doctor appointments which I try to limit to those times.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing Envelopes [RESOLVED]

2013-01-26 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 07:59:48 -0800 (PST)
Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote:

 On Thu, 24 Jan 2013, Rich Shepard wrote:
 
   Running LO-3.5.5.3 on Slackware-13.1. The envelope template was
  built for a COM10 size envelope in 2003 using whatever version of
  OO.o was then current. Worked fine then; hasn't since OO.o was
  supplanted by LO. Time to fix this problem.
 
I have a solution that works for me: a short (32 lines) PostScript
 program. I edit the code for each address, then print it using lpr.
 Simple. Efficient. Works.
 
 Thanks, all!
 
 Rich
 
 
 

Hi Rich,
Would you please post that short PS program so other might be able to
use it?  That would be especially useful for newbies.  

Thanks, Tom

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Document issue

2012-10-29 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:40:28 -0400
David Burleigh david.burle...@parchmentpress.net wrote:

 I just spent many hours building a master document which links
 together all the chapters of a book, and everything was going fine
 until somehow, without any conscious action on my part, it embedded
 all the linked documents rather than keeping them as links. Can this
 be undone, that is, restoring the original links?
 
 This embedding action defeats the purpose entirely, as I need the
 ability to independently edit the linked documents. Then when I reopen
 the master document, it normally would display all the updates to the
 linked documents. I use Master Documents all the time in this way, and
 this mysterious embedding action has never happened before.
 

Hi David,
I'm sorry I can't answer your question.

I noticed that your message is in the middle of the existing thread
libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation
announces LibreOffice 3.5.7.  That looks like you hijacked the thread
and changed the subject.  First, that is poor etiquette, second your
are less likely to get a good response since it is buried in an
existing thread and does not stand out as a new thread.  Many of
us have over 100 messages per day and don't bother looking at a
thread that is not of interest to us.  Please, in the future, compose a
new message which will have its own thread.

Thanks, Tom

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Re: [libreoffice-users] BASIC script how to read/write system files, like /dev/null in Linux

2012-10-14 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 21:48:37 +0100 (BST)
Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 You did the right thing by posting to this list first but your
 question is waaay beyond the skills of most people on this list.  
 
 I think you need to copypaste your question to the devs list and
 maybe ask your own distro's devs too.  It might be worth also asking
 in the general GnuLinux forum http://www.linuxquestions.org because
 they can usually handle almost any distro.  
 
 E, it's worth letting people know which distro you are using and
 version number might help too. Good luck and happy hunting!
 Regards from
 Tom :)  
 
 
 --- On Sun, 14/10/12, chaonis chao...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From: chaonis chao...@gmail.com
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] BASIC script how to read/write system
 files, like /dev/null in Linux To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Sunday, 14 October, 2012, 20:08
 
 I am trying to write scripts accessing the system files, such
 as /dev/ttyS0. If I use Open I got the error Device I/O error
 message. Are there any special function call needed to be done for
 the system files? User permission is good as I can access to the file
 using any other Linux commands.
 
 Following is the code I tried. It stalled on the first Open
 statement:
 
 Sub Main
     Dim iNumber As Integer
     Dim aFile As String
     aFile = /dev/ttyS0
     iNumber = Freefile
     Open aFile For Output As #iNumber
     Print #iNumber, *IDN?
     close #iNumber
     iNumber = Freefile
     Open aFile For Input As #iNumber
     While not eof(iNumber)
         Line Input #iNumber, sLine
         If sLine  then
             sMsg = sMsg  sLine  chr(13)
         end if
     wend
     Close #iNumber
     Msgbox sMsg
 End Sub
 
 
 
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Hi Chanois,
As Tom said  you should ask this on the devs lists.  Dev files have
different formats dependent on the device.  I don't believe they are
even ASCII files in some cases, using various codes.

Tom  :))  (note double chin)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO

2012-10-04 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Thu, 4 Oct 2012 15:43:34 -0500
anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote:

Back when I received this response [2nd below], I attempted to
follow these steps -
but found that #1 is impossible; there is no 'math' problem
which is to be answered in order to log-in [WHERE is this to be
found?] Therefore, the log-in merely goes round and round, stating
this error, yet never explaining HOW to correct this error ;-(

After trying - and with the same results - half a dozen times,
I wrote this Joel back - [1st below]
a few days later, he finally responded but ONLY to having
received my e-mail, rather than responding to HOW to log-in.

When I initially offered to help, I did so in good faith, yet
now I'm thinking that either that initial letter and/or his response
was some joke;
I'm asking this list for their thoughts and possibly an
explanation to this;
I happened to notice that some from this list, were
listed on that log-in page ;-)

From: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: Triaging
To: Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com

I've been attempting to sign in -
clicking on the URL in #1 below only to uncover various
problems: the latest and most consistent is probably due to not
answering some math question -
I've clicked on each link on this page yet have not
located the problem nor the blank to fill in???

I don't understand.

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com
wrote:

Hi! First thanks for responding to our call for volunteers, we really
appreciate the help :)

I was hoping that you could start by doing two things:

1. Go here,
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/QA_Team#QA_Team_volunteers_in_alphabetic_order,
and add your name and what not to the list so that we can easily
see who is volunteering

2. Go here,
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApS-XtOUGGH5dDIwaXN1YnNsM0h4RXFKdVhvb2RRb0E#gid=1,
pick a sheet, and start triaging as much as possible. Right now our
biggest project in QA is getting FDO under control, starting with
the backlog of about 850 bugs that are older than 30 days and
haven't been touched.

I update that sheet somewhat regularly so at times you'll see your
sheet gone and you'll have to reassign yourself another one. I'll
hopefully be doing that this afternoon at some point but feel free
to start whenever you have the time. If you have any questions
don't hesitate to email me or add me on gchat/skype/etc...

Thanks again,
Joel

Have you attempted to create an account per the first link? (Upper
right hand corner) And do you have cookies enabled? This is under
Firefox 15.0 on linux. Where are you getting this math from? There
is no math involved and no mathematical answer required.

I am just an end user without the knowledge required for QA work but
had no trouble joining the list. Just followed the directions!.

Tom

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[libreoffice-users] Laser printer not available?

2012-09-19 Thread Thomas Taylor

Using LO 3.5 (build 403) under openSUSE 12.2 my laser printer (Brother
HL-1440) doesn't show up in the printer dialog box when I try to print
something.  

The first image taken from tools  Options shows the printer is being
seen in the FAX list:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/e84f3e211329321

The second image shows the printer dialog when I attempt to print - the
laser is not listed:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/a3c856211329325

The third image shows the laser is available through the CUPS system:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/b20f41211329328 

Would someone please point me to what I need to change to be able to
use the laser printer.  This is the LO version supplied by openSUSE.
Would it be preferred to use a version directly from LO?  If so, what
should be saved to retain my customizations?

Thanks, Tom

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Another question concerning Base

2012-08-20 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 10:28:07 +0200
Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Le 16/08/12 00:56, Thomas Taylor a écrit :
 
 Hi Thomas,
 
  When creating a table in Base with the wizard, is it possible to
  use a boolean (yes/no) to control further input fields?  If so, how
  please? my assumption is that entry conditional control must be
  done without the wizard.
 
 No, the wizard is not designed to let you do this, it will only do the
 most basic of table creation tasks. Anything more sophisticated than
 that would require programming skills and be dependent on the
 functionality of the underlying database engine.
 
 Note also that despite the possibility to enter data directly into a
 Table View or Grid View (the terms often get mixed up together), the
 LibreOffice API is documented as only supporting Form based
 XBindableControls, i.e. there is no direct support for binding
 controls, conditional or not, directly to the Table View that users
 can use to enter data or when creating a new table in Table Design.
 
 Confused ? You should be. ;-)
 
 If you want an English book on programming with Base, look at Roberto
 Benitez' book :
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Database-Programming-OpenOffice-org-Base-Basic/dp/0557007585/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8qid=1345449641sr=8-11keywords=roberto+benitez
 
 Also check out Andrew Pitonyak's use of Basic with Base :
 http://www.pitonyak.org/database/
 
 
 If you can read German, I would suggest one of Thomas Krumbein's
 books :
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Datenbanken-mit-OpenOffice-org-Base-HSQLDB/dp/383621301X/ref=sr_1_4?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1345449757sr=1-4keywords=thomas+krumbein
 
 If you can read French, check out Laurent Godard/Bernard Marcelly's
 book :
 
 
 http://www.eyrolles.com/Informatique/Livre/programmation-openoffice-org-et-libreoffice-9782212132472
 
 
 The fact that most of the books/references above relate to
 OpenOffice.org and not LibreOffice is not a major obstacle, there have
 not been that many significant changes in the Base module behaviour
 since the creation of the LibreOffice project :
 
 - AOOo has moved its hsqldb engine to an improved version 2, whereas
 LO is still stuck on version 1.8 ;
 
 - AOOo has removed direct support for the mysql native connector due
 to licensing issues, it is still provided as a download for older
 versions of OOo, but is no longer being actively supported ;
 
 - LO no longer has any actively supported native mysql connector
 either, but for the moment, an attempt to not break the existing
 external extension is being maintained ;
 
 - LO has read/write native connector support for postgresql - this, I
 believe, is a major improvement over AOOo, which only had read
 support, and the postgres native connector is no longer even offered
 with AOOo due to licensing issues ;
 
 - both AOOo and LO support JDBC driver connections to postgresql and
 mysql databases ;
 
 - both AOOo and LO are supposed to support ODBC driver connections -
 however, this is very dependent on OS, bit version architecture
 (32/64) and buggy behaviours of the 3rd party drivers ;
 
 - LO support of MS Access databases on Windows is variable according
 to LO version and Access mdb/accdb version - one day it works with one
 version of LO, the next it doesn't, so your mileage may vary - I can't
 speak for AOOo here as I haven't tested that bit ;
 
 - Access databases are not supported in either LO or AOOo on other
 OSes (i.e. Linux/Mac), to my knowledge - these are usually dealt with
 by 3rd party programs.
 
 This is only a short comparison, I'm sure there are other points that
 could be mentioned, but on the whole, the basic DB functionality
 between the two is pretty much the same. That situation is likely to
 change with the switch to LO version 4 development, where it has
 already been decided that backwards version (ABI) compatibility for
 all functionalities of the LO suite will not be guaranteed. At the
 moment, I have no idea how that will affect Base, but it will almost
 certainly affect any extensions that are currently available.
 
 
 Alex
 
 

Thanks for all that information, Alex!  I'll look into getting one of
those books.

Tom

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Excuse me, but your opinion is simply unimportant. Start over and you can expect more of the same.

2012-08-15 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:13:01 +0200
Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:

 Am 14.08.2012 20:48, Marc Grober wrote:
 
  This (see the quote below) is simply unacceptable. In fact, with
  respect to the bug on which I received this little gem quite a few
  people had been at pains to clearly identify the problem and the
  potential solution, and neither having changed at all, there had
  been no changes to the bug report save angry responses everytime
  someone tried to close it because it had not been updated. What is
  Florian really saying?  It would appear to be either that the
  product is SO buggy we have decided to ignore all the bug
  reports OR that users are S stupid that we are going to ignore
  all bug reports  Thank you, Florian, for the vote of confidence.
 
 
 +1
 
 Today I got 16 such mails.
 
 LibreOffice is out of control. Everybody is free to fix things that
 are not broken. Like the supporters on this list, the QA testers do
 not know the software, let alone any new features added without 
 specification nor investigation on side effects. Some of the QA
 people are not even able to run a macro to check out an issue.
 
 I'm going to upgrade all our production systems to AOO 3.4.1 which
 works as expected with all the features I need.
 
 
 
 

Hi Andreas,
I am not trying to be critical but for the last 2-3 releases no email
message was received about NEED INFO.  That had been done in earlier
releases.  Is there a malfunction in the bug reporting system?  My
programming days are many years behind but it seems to me an automated
tracking system should send a message to the reporter when additional
information is needed.  Then if a response is not received within a
specified time-frame the report could be downgraded or closed.

Thanks, Tom

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[libreoffice-users] Numerical terms used in Base

2012-08-15 Thread Thomas Taylor

It's been way too many years since I did commercial programming on
databases and I've forgotten some of the terms (formats) for numerical
data.  I'm trying to create a simple database of local
facilities/doctors/stores with Base using the wizards. The formats that
are giving me trouble are:

Text[VARCHAR]- a variable number of type CHAR?
Text(fix)[CHAR]  - does that mean a fixed number of CHAR?
Integer[INTEGER] \
Numeric[NUMERIC]   How do these differ?
Decimal{DECIMAL] /

I looked in LibreOffice help but couldn't find the definitions.  Some
help would be appreciated.

For instance, which format is used for a telephone number?
(1.800.123.4567)?

Thanks, Tom

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Numerical terms used in Base

2012-08-15 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:53:33 +0200
Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:

 Am 15.08.2012 22:31, Thomas Taylor wrote:
  It's been way too many years since I did commercial programming on
  databases and I've forgotten some of the terms (formats) for
  numerical data.  I'm trying to create a simple database of local
  facilities/doctors/stores with Base using the wizards. The formats
  that are giving me trouble are:
 
  Text[VARCHAR]- a variable number of type CHAR?
  Text(fix)[CHAR]  - does that mean a fixed number of CHAR?
 
 Right.
 
  Integer[INTEGER] \
  Numeric[NUMERIC]   How do these differ?
  Decimal{DECIMAL] /
 
 There are tiny integers, small integers, integers and big integer 
 numbers. Decimal(8,3) has 8 digits, 3 of them behind the point.
 I don't know about Numeric. Never used that.
 
  I looked in LibreOffice help but couldn't find the definitions.
  Some help would be appreciated.
 
 Base is not a database program. It is a mere frontend. You may decide
 to wrap a HSQLDB backend into the frontend file which is a very
 unstable construction and should be avoided for production databases.
 The embeddable HSQLDB 1.8 is documented here:
  http://www.hsqldb.org/doc/1.8/guide/ch09.html
 
 
  For instance, which format is used for a telephone number?
  (1.800.123.4567)?
 
 
 That is text unless you want to practice some arithmetic witchcraft
 on phone numbers. A pattern control on a form can enforce the right 
 pattern of points and digits.
 
 
 

Thanks to both Jay and Andreas.  Beginning to make sense. 

Tom

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[libreoffice-users] Another question concerning Base

2012-08-15 Thread Thomas Taylor

When creating a table in Base with the wizard, is it possible to use a
boolean (yes/no) to control further input fields?  If so, how please?
my assumption is that entry conditional control must be done without
the wizard.

Also, can someone recommend a book about LibreOffice that gives good
descriptions and examples?

Thanks, Tom

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice won't save settings

2012-07-09 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Mon, 9 Jul 2012 09:12:46 -0700 (PDT)
Don d...@law.pace.edu wrote about [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice won't
save
settings:
Miroslaw,

Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I think I'm up to date on the
program since the first things I do every day are to use the Kpackage
Manager update feature and then run sudo apt-get update.

Do you know which files I would need to change the permissions on? That
seems from your message the simplest approach to try at this point.

Don

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Hi Don,
I don't use Kubuntu but will give an answer that SHOULD work. I occasionally
run
chown on my entire ~/ folder (/home/user/) just to avoid any problem with
permissions caused by backup/restore, upgrades, and additions.

chown -R username:users /home/user/
the -R ensures recursion through all that users sub-directories

Tom

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to install medical dictionary? - Envelope

2012-06-25 Thread Thomas Taylor

Hi Mfq;
I'm not sure why you think there should be an icon since there isn't one.  

For an envelope click on Insert, then select Envelope from the drop down 
menu.
That will bring up a dialog box where you can enter the address information.

Tom B)))

On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:00:16 -0400 (EDT)
Mqf mqfelt1...@aol.com wrote about Re: [libreoffice-users] How to install 
medical
dictionary? - Envelope:
 
  I did what you said.  I got my letter that I was requesting.  However, I 
 still do
 not know how to find the icon ENVELOPE.  I went to the FILE and thumbed down 
 to
 Print.  I was hoping that the envelope in the printer would be all that was
 necessary but it did not print as it should for an envelope.  Please help.  I
 admit I am plain stupid when it comes to computers but even though I am 85 
 years
 old, do manage eventually.
 


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[libreoffice-users] How to install medical dictionary?

2012-06-24 Thread Thomas Taylor

I have downloaded a medical dictionary (en-us-openmedspel.oxt) but can't find 
where
to put the file.

In LO 3.3 I would put it in /usr/share/lib64/libreoffice/extensions/language but
I can't find that directory in LO 3.5 (build 392).  I also haven't been able to 
find
a language folder in any of the paths.

Where do I put this file in LO 3.5 in order to access it when needed?  I looked 
in
the help section but found it rather vague about dictionaries, nothing about 
where
they are stored.

Any pointers or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Tom B)))

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[SOLVED]Re: [libreoffice-users] How to install medical dictionary?

2012-06-24 Thread Thomas Taylor

Thanks for the response Anthony.  That did solve my problem.

Tom

On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 01:39:59 +0200
Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com wrote about Re: [libreoffice-users] 
How to
install medical dictionary?:
 ok. you should of  installed it in the following way:
 
 Download the file
 Browse to where it is saved on your hard drive
 Right click on it and select open with - libreoffice
 
 LO will then automatically install it and you should be able to find it
 installed within the exstensions list that you can access from the start
 up menu
 
 Cheers
 --
 Ant
 
 On Sun, Jun 24, 2012, at 04:07 PM, Thomas Taylor wrote:
  I have downloaded a medical dictionary (en-us-openmedspel.oxt) but can't
  find where
  to put the file.
  
  In LO 3.3 I would put it in
  /usr/share/lib64/libreoffice/extensions/language but
  I can't find that directory in LO 3.5 (build 392).  I also haven't been
  able to find
  a language folder in any of the paths.
  
  Where do I put this file in LO 3.5 in order to access it when needed?  I
  looked in
  the help section but found it rather vague about dictionaries, nothing
  about where
  they are stored.
  
  Any pointers or advice would be greatly appreciated.
  
  Thanks, Tom B)))
  
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Changes oddity

2012-06-23 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 05:47:43 +0100 (BST)
Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote about Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 
Changes
oddity:
 Hi :)
 I tried 
 
 Alt Space-bar
 
 and that seemed to work.  It took me a while to work it out.  I was hunting 
 around
 the _ and | and that weird button just before the 1. Regards from
 Tom :)  
 
 
 
 
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 From: Thomas Taylor li...@comcast.net
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Changes oddity
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Saturday, 23 June, 2012, 4:59
 
 On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 11:01:15 +0200
 Nino Novak nn.l...@kflog.org wrote about [libreoffice-users] Re: Changes 
 oddity:
  Am 22.06.2012 07:57, schrieb Sandy Harris:
  
   However, the window that opens for Changes-accept/reject has
   gone to full screen and I cannot get it back so that I can see the
   text in order to decide on what to do with changes. It covers the
   whole text window.
  
  Two suggestions:
  
  1- click somewhere inside the Accept/Reject window so it gets active, then 
  press
  ALT+BLANK. In my setup this opens the window context menu, where you can 
  select
  Resize Window (or similar). Then resize the window with mouse or arrow 
  keys.
  
 
 ¿¿ what is BLANK ??
 Nothing like that on my keyboard.
 
 Tom 
  snip 
 

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[SOLVED] Re: [libreoffice-users] New brothers printer does not appear to print Landscape.

2012-06-23 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 13:14:16 -0700
upscope upsc...@nwi.net wrote about Re: [libreoffice-users] New brothers 
printer
does not appear to print Landscape.:
 On Thursday, June 21, 2012 04:56:29 PM Mieszko Kaczmarczyk wrote:
  W dniu 2012-06-21 14:55, upscope pisze:
   LibreOffice 3.5.3.2
   Build ID: 350m1(Build:2)
   
   Has printer administration been removed or the name changed in
   version 3.5.3?
   
   KDE applications print good with CUPS and LPR.
   
   
   Russ
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  What model of Brother do you use?  Which driver?
  
  I see you use 64bit version of system like me, but there is problem
  inside driver - the same configuration in 32bit works OK.
  I cannot print in landscape but also from other programs.
  
  In 64bit the LO print in landscape on virtual printer-PDF and other
  printer (HP) full OK.
  
  I have got printer DCP770CW.
  
  
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 My printer is a MFC-J6710DW. 
 Prints portrait ok. No landscape printing.
 
 Russ
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Thanks to the tip from Helen I can now print in landscape mode though a few 
extra
steps are required.  I'll get in touch with Brother about the fix.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Changes oddity

2012-06-22 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 11:01:15 +0200
Nino Novak nn.l...@kflog.org wrote about [libreoffice-users] Re: Changes 
oddity:
 Am 22.06.2012 07:57, schrieb Sandy Harris:
 
  However, the window that opens for Changes-accept/reject has
  gone to full screen and I cannot get it back so that I can see the
  text in order to decide on what to do with changes. It covers the
  whole text window.
 
 Two suggestions:
 
 1- click somewhere inside the Accept/Reject window so it gets active, then 
 press
 ALT+BLANK. In my setup this opens the window context menu, where you can 
 select
 Resize Window (or similar). Then resize the window with mouse or arrow keys.
 

¿¿ what is BLANK ??
Nothing like that on my keyboard.

Tom 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] New brothers printer does not appear to print Landscape.

2012-06-21 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 05:55:43 -0700
upscope upsc...@nwi.net wrote about [libreoffice-users] New brothers printer 
does
not appear to print Landscape.:
 LibreOffice 3.5.3.2 
 Build ID: 350m1(Build:2)
 
 Has printer administration been removed or the name changed in version 
 3.5.3? 
 
 KDE applications print good with CUPS and LPR.
 
 
 
 Russ
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 DDR3|GeForce 8400GS(NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.53)  
 

Hi Russ,
I have a Brother MFC-J6710DW connected via network which has this problem also. 
 I'm
exchanging email messages with Brother tech support (Linux Support
linuxsupp...@brother.com) but haven't found the source of the problem.  It 
does
apply only to linux driver, landscape printing is working properly under
windblows-7.  For me, it won't work in LibreOffice, Eagle PCB (board design), or
Okular (PDF view).

They say that it works for them.  They installed OS 12.2  and tested with
LibreOffice and say it works for them.

Please send screenshots, copies, or any other pertinent information to that 
address
and maybe we can get this resolved.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] New brothers printer does not appear to print Landscape.

2012-06-21 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 08:48:13 +1200
Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote about Re: [libreoffice-users] 
New
brothers printer does not appear to print Landscape.:
 I have to print to pdf and then print the PDF to get around this on my 
 Brother,
 printing is ok on my HP. Must be something to do with the brother driver 
 because
 Firefox won't print in landscaqpe either. steve
 
 
 On 2012-06-22 00:55, upscope wrote:
  LibreOffice 3.5.3.2
  Build ID: 350m1(Build:2)
 
  Has printer administration been removed or the name changed in version
  3.5.3?
 
  KDE applications print good with CUPS and LPR.
 
 
 
  Russ
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  DDR3|GeForce 8400GS(NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.53)
 
 

Printing from FF has been a known problem for some time.

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[SOLVED] Re: [libreoffice-users] Icons missing in LO 3.5.4rc2

2012-06-11 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 16:19:33 -0700
Thomas Taylor li...@comcast.net wrote about [libreoffice-users] Icons missing 
in
LO 3.5.4rc2:
 I have installed LO 3.5.4rc2 but apparently the icons either didn't get 
 installed
 or possibly a link wasn't created.  All of the LO programs just show a default
 empty document icon.
 
 Would someone please give me some pointers on how to install/use the color 
 icons
 for LO?  I've searched in /usr/share/icons but haven't found them there.  Of
 course that might not be their correct location.
 
 Thanks, Tom
 
 LO 3.5.4rc2
 openSuSE 12.2-ß1
 KDE 4.8.3
 
 

After re-installing KDE and rebooting the icons are now displayed.

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[libreoffice-users] Icons missing in LO 3.5.4rc2

2012-06-10 Thread Thomas Taylor

I have installed LO 3.5.4rc2 but apparently the icons either didn't get 
installed or
possibly a link wasn't created.  All of the LO programs just show a default 
empty
document icon.

Would someone please give me some pointers on how to install/use the color 
icons for
LO?  I've searched in /usr/share/icons but haven't found them there.  Of course 
that
might not be their correct location.

Thanks, Tom

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[SOLVED?]Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to import printed form into writer in Linux?

2012-06-03 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 22:42:41 -0700
Thomas Taylor li...@comcast.net wrote about Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to
import printed form into writer in Linux?:
 On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:41:41 +0200
 Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote about [libreoffice-users] 
 Re:
 How to import printed form into writer in Linux?:
  Le 01/06/12 09:32, Thomas Taylor a écrit :
  
  Hi Thomas,
  
   Are there any add-ons that would allow it to work with PDF files?  Is 
   there
   documentation related to this functionality?
   
  
  The pdfimport extension (if at all installed by default with openSuse)
  will only open the PDFs fed from your scanner as a bitmapped image in Draw.
  
  Your forms as scanned with your Brother MFC will usually be supplied in
  one of the following formats :
  
  - PDF
  - TIFF Group 4
  - JPG (2000 ?)
  - PNG (if you're lucky)
  - BMP
  
  
  All of those are bitmap formats. The only way your form can be
  transformed into something useful is through the use of an
  OCR/vectorisation programme.
  
  I don't know of any worthwhile, free, Linux-based solutions to your
  problem. Yes, there are opensource OCR programs for Linux, but on the
  whole, I have found them to be woefully lacking, and most certainly
  cannot handle form objects, tick boxes, and the like. It is just about
  all they can do to read text in English.
  
  There may be pay solutions out there, I don't know, and haven't looked
  in a while.
  
  As far as I know, you won't find anything that will work directly with
  LibreOffice, as in, transform your scanned form into something editable
  and changeable within LO, unless the PDF output you provide from your
  scanner/ocr application can supply PDF-conform embedded objects that can
  be read by the pdfimport extension, in which case they will open in Draw
  (which is OK, but not brilliant when you've got lots of text to edit
  since virtually each line appears in a separate text bounding box).
  
  Maybe others here can suggest something more appropriate/functional.
  Good luck with your search.
  
  Alex
  
  
 
 Thank you Jay, Tom, and Alexander.  Both Writer and Draw produce an error 
 General
 I/O Error when trying to import pdf, tiff, and png.  The PDF Import 
 extension is
 installed but has a problem, possibly in the SuSE version.
 
 I'm going to delete the SuSE version and build from scratch dirrect from
 Sourceforge.
 
 Again, thanks for your help.
 
 Tom
 

After further testing with the original PDF and a couple more that I scanned and
using two PDFs from other sources, it looks like the problem is with the PDF 
that
Xsane generates, not LibreOffice opening a PDF.  The two from other sources 
opened
properly (one read only due to password) but each of the PDFs from Xsane 
error-ed
out.

Consequently I've sent a message with attached PDF file to the Xsane maintainer
asking for his help in this matter.

Tom

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[libreoffice-users] How to import printed form into writer in Linux?

2012-06-01 Thread Thomas Taylor

Hi All,
I have several printed forms that I would like to import into LOWriter.  The 
forms
have fonts of various sizes and families on the same form with areas for 
entering
information (names, addresses, part numbers, etc.).

I have a Brother MFC printer that can scan the forms into a variety of formats. 
 I
don't currently have any OCR capability.  Looking in writer I couldn't find 
anywhere
to import a scanned image.

Are there any add-ons that would allow it to work with PDF files?  Is there
documentation related to this functionality?

LibreOffice 3.5.2.2
openSuSE 12.2 x86-64
Kernel: 3.3.0-2-default
KDE 4.8.1

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to import printed form into writer in Linux?

2012-06-01 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:41:41 +0200
Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote about [libreoffice-users] 
Re: How
to import printed form into writer in Linux?:
 Le 01/06/12 09:32, Thomas Taylor a écrit :
 
 Hi Thomas,
 
  Are there any add-ons that would allow it to work with PDF files?  Is there
  documentation related to this functionality?
  
 
 The pdfimport extension (if at all installed by default with openSuse)
 will only open the PDFs fed from your scanner as a bitmapped image in Draw.
 
 Your forms as scanned with your Brother MFC will usually be supplied in
 one of the following formats :
 
 - PDF
 - TIFF Group 4
 - JPG (2000 ?)
 - PNG (if you're lucky)
 - BMP
 
 
 All of those are bitmap formats. The only way your form can be
 transformed into something useful is through the use of an
 OCR/vectorisation programme.
 
 I don't know of any worthwhile, free, Linux-based solutions to your
 problem. Yes, there are opensource OCR programs for Linux, but on the
 whole, I have found them to be woefully lacking, and most certainly
 cannot handle form objects, tick boxes, and the like. It is just about
 all they can do to read text in English.
 
 There may be pay solutions out there, I don't know, and haven't looked
 in a while.
 
 As far as I know, you won't find anything that will work directly with
 LibreOffice, as in, transform your scanned form into something editable
 and changeable within LO, unless the PDF output you provide from your
 scanner/ocr application can supply PDF-conform embedded objects that can
 be read by the pdfimport extension, in which case they will open in Draw
 (which is OK, but not brilliant when you've got lots of text to edit
 since virtually each line appears in a separate text bounding box).
 
 Maybe others here can suggest something more appropriate/functional.
 Good luck with your search.
 
 Alex
 
 

Thank you Jay, Tom, and Alexander.  Both Writer and Draw produce an error 
General
I/O Error when trying to import pdf, tiff, and png.  The PDF Import extension 
is
installed but has a problem, possibly in the SuSE version.

I'm going to delete the SuSE version and build from scratch dirrect from 
Sourceforge.

Again, thanks for your help.

Tom

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Installation problem Windows 7 and LO 3.5

2012-05-29 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Tue, 29 May 2012 18:29:20 -0500
Emily Akin emilya...@live.com wrote about [libreoffice-users] Installation
problem Windows 7 and LO 3.5:
 I have tried to install Libre Office 3.5 multiple times on my Windows 7 64-bit
 machine. When I start the install, a message comes up saying to Clos e 
 LibreOffice
 Quickstarter 3.5. Nothing else is open. When I click OK. I get a message that 
 the
 install was interrupted with no choice but to End.
 
 I have Open Office on my computer. Could something about Open Office be
 interfering with the LibreOffice install?
 
 Emily Akin
 
 

Hi Emily :)
OpenOffice probably is listed in the windows startup list. You can change this 
by
(as administrator) click on the startup icon and in the run box entering 
msconfig. 
Go to the startup tab and delete OpenOffice.

Please, when you have a new subject, don't hijack an existing thread. Many mail 
programs use thread information contained in the headers, NOT the subject.  If 
your 
mail program shows threads you will observe that your message is in the middle 
of a thread about Alternate Method of Error Handling when Developing Basic 
Macros?. 
Just changing the subject doesn't start a new thread.

This would help you have a better chance of getting a good answer as more people
would see the subject where they skip over threads (with your message in the
midst) that don't interest them.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] select en-dash and em-dash characters

2012-04-18 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:10:18 +0200
Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Den 17 april 2012 22:32 skrev Thomas Taylor li...@comcast.net:
  On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:09:31 +0200
  Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Den 16 april 2012 22:36 skrev Séamas Ó Brógáin s...@iol.ie:
   Regina wrote:
  
   They are usually written via AutoCorrect. The simple hyphen is replaced
   with the en-dash or em-dash when the following word is finished . . .
  
   That is _not_ a good idea. The hyphen, en rule and em rule (dash) are
   distinct characters with distinct uses in conventional typography and
   typesetting. Their correct use cannot be predicted by context, nor are
   they interchangeable.
  
   You need to find out where these characters are in the character set you
   are using. This depends on your operating system, your language, and
   your keyboard layout.
  
   As Johnny pointed out, they can be entered with the compose key. If you
   use them so often that even this is too cumbersome you can customise
   your keyboard layout,
 
  That's actually what I did (called ”Sweden Johnny Rosenberg”,
  available on my computers only…), but I didn't mention it because I
  thought it could be a bit tricky…
  I have the en-dash at AltGr+- and the em-dash at AltGr+Shift+-. I also
  did a lot of other modification, like removed all my numbers from the
  first row (I already have them on the num pad to the right – why have
  them at more than one place?) and moved some Shift+number combinations
  so I don't need Shift for characters like ”!#%/” and so on. I even
  made labels to put on my keys, but most of them was worn out after a
  couple of weeks of typing…
 
  To change the layout (or rather add a new one in this case), you need
  to fiddle with three files (at least in Ubuntu):
  /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.lst, /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.xml
  and /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/the file representing your language,
  more on that another time…
 
  Ok, this was a bit off topic…
 
 
  Kind regards
 
  Johnny Rosenberg
  ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
 
  so that (for example) compose-hyphen gets you the
   en rule and shift-compose-hyphen gets you the dash (em rule). If you
   want to do this I will help you (but only if you use GNU/Linux!).
  
   You could, as Johnny suggests, create your own auto-correct sequences,
   but personally I would avoid all such contrivances. Auto-correct is
   _not_ your friend.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Hi Johnny;
  Out of curiosity, what is AltGr+ ? Alt is of course the Alt key on the
  keyboard but which key is Gr?  My keyboard (an old IBM windows model)
  doesn't have such a key.
 
  Thanks, Tom
 
 I saw that someone already answered, but I'll reply anyway.
 The ”+” does only mean that the key is hold. So Alt+Shift+x means that
 Alt, Shift and x is pressed simultaneously, or at least that no key is
 released before the other keys is pressed.
 The compose key doesn't work that way, therefore no ”+” sign: ”Compose
 --.” means ”hit the Compose key, release it, then type --.”.

 snip 

Hi Johnny ;)
The problem with the above is that in openSuSE  the compose key only allows two
(2) keystroke combinations, not three (3).  Compose -./-- do not insert
anything.  To me, this is just a point of education as I don't use dash m/n in
my writing.  Just trying to learn a bit.

Thanks for any further explanation. 

Tom

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Re: [libreoffice-users] select en-dash and em-dash characters (added)

2012-04-18 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:10:18 +0200
Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Den 17 april 2012 22:32 skrev Thomas Taylor li...@comcast.net:
  On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:09:31 +0200
  Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Den 16 april 2012 22:36 skrev Séamas Ó Brógáin s...@iol.ie:
   Regina wrote:
  
   They are usually written via AutoCorrect. The simple hyphen is replaced
   with the en-dash or em-dash when the following word is finished . . .
  
   That is _not_ a good idea. The hyphen, en rule and em rule (dash) are
   distinct characters with distinct uses in conventional typography and
   typesetting. Their correct use cannot be predicted by context, nor are
   they interchangeable.
  
   You need to find out where these characters are in the character set you
   are using. This depends on your operating system, your language, and
   your keyboard layout.
  
   As Johnny pointed out, they can be entered with the compose key. If you
   use them so often that even this is too cumbersome you can customise
   your keyboard layout,
 
  That's actually what I did (called ”Sweden Johnny Rosenberg”,
  available on my computers only…), but I didn't mention it because I
  thought it could be a bit tricky…
  I have the en-dash at AltGr+- and the em-dash at AltGr+Shift+-. I also
  did a lot of other modification, like removed all my numbers from the
  first row (I already have them on the num pad to the right – why have
  them at more than one place?) and moved some Shift+number combinations
  so I don't need Shift for characters like ”!#%/” and so on. I even
  made labels to put on my keys, but most of them was worn out after a
  couple of weeks of typing…
 
  To change the layout (or rather add a new one in this case), you need
  to fiddle with three files (at least in Ubuntu):
  /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.lst, /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.xml
  and /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/the file representing your language,
  more on that another time…
 
  Ok, this was a bit off topic…
 
 
  Kind regards
 
  Johnny Rosenberg
  ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
 
  so that (for example) compose-hyphen gets you the
   en rule and shift-compose-hyphen gets you the dash (em rule). If you
   want to do this I will help you (but only if you use GNU/Linux!).
  
   You could, as Johnny suggests, create your own auto-correct sequences,
   but personally I would avoid all such contrivances. Auto-correct is
   _not_ your friend.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Hi Johnny;
  Out of curiosity, what is AltGr+ ? Alt is of course the Alt key on the
  keyboard but which key is Gr?  My keyboard (an old IBM windows model)
  doesn't have such a key.
 
  Thanks, Tom
 
 I saw that someone already answered, but I'll reply anyway.
 The ”+” does only mean that the key is hold. So Alt+Shift+x means that
 Alt, Shift and x is pressed simultaneously, or at least that no key is
 released before the other keys is pressed.
 The compose key doesn't work that way, therefore no ”+” sign: ”Compose
 --.” means ”hit the Compose key, release it, then type --.”.

 snip 

Hi Johnny ;)
The problem with the above is that in openSuSE  the compose key only allows two
(2) keystroke combinations, not three (3).  Compose -./-- do not insert
anything.  To me, this is just a point of education as I don't use dash m/n in
my writing.  Just trying to learn a bit.

Thanks for any further explanation. 

Tom

After some trial and error I find that three key combinations work in some
applications but not in others.  They do work in LO but not when immediately
adjacent.  Thanks for your help.

Tom

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Re: [libreoffice-users] select en-dash and em-dash characters

2012-04-17 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:09:31 +0200
Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Den 16 april 2012 22:36 skrev Séamas Ó Brógáin s...@iol.ie:
  Regina wrote:
 
  They are usually written via AutoCorrect. The simple hyphen is replaced
  with the en-dash or em-dash when the following word is finished . . .
 
  That is _not_ a good idea. The hyphen, en rule and em rule (dash) are
  distinct characters with distinct uses in conventional typography and
  typesetting. Their correct use cannot be predicted by context, nor are
  they interchangeable.
 
  You need to find out where these characters are in the character set you
  are using. This depends on your operating system, your language, and
  your keyboard layout.
 
  As Johnny pointed out, they can be entered with the compose key. If you
  use them so often that even this is too cumbersome you can customise
  your keyboard layout,
 
 That's actually what I did (called ”Sweden Johnny Rosenberg”,
 available on my computers only…), but I didn't mention it because I
 thought it could be a bit tricky…
 I have the en-dash at AltGr+- and the em-dash at AltGr+Shift+-. I also
 did a lot of other modification, like removed all my numbers from the
 first row (I already have them on the num pad to the right – why have
 them at more than one place?) and moved some Shift+number combinations
 so I don't need Shift for characters like ”!#%/” and so on. I even
 made labels to put on my keys, but most of them was worn out after a
 couple of weeks of typing…
 
 To change the layout (or rather add a new one in this case), you need
 to fiddle with three files (at least in Ubuntu):
 /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.lst, /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.xml
 and /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/the file representing your language,
 more on that another time…
 
 Ok, this was a bit off topic…
 
 
 Kind regards
 
 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
 
 so that (for example) compose-hyphen gets you the
  en rule and shift-compose-hyphen gets you the dash (em rule). If you
  want to do this I will help you (but only if you use GNU/Linux!).
 
  You could, as Johnny suggests, create your own auto-correct sequences,
  but personally I would avoid all such contrivances. Auto-correct is
  _not_ your friend.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Hi Johnny;
Out of curiosity, what is AltGr+ ? Alt is of course the Alt key on the
keyboard but which key is Gr?  My keyboard (an old IBM windows model) doesn't
have such a key.

Thanks, Tom

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Re: [libreoffice-users] select en-dash and em-dash characters

2012-04-17 Thread Thomas Taylor

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:48:22 +0100
Séamas Ó Brógáin s...@iol.ie wrote:

 Doug:
 
 Using the compose key, the default settings are:
 
dash (em rule)  ---
en rule:--.
 
 
 
 
 
 

How do you do that if your system (openSuSE 12.1) only allows two (2) key
composition?

Thanks, Tom

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