Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre shouldn't warn during saving in doc

[V Stuart Foote]

On 2024-04-18 14:55, FARHAN ISHRAK Fahim wrote:
Today, I was saving a file to doc while working on libreoffice writer. 
It

showed a warning that if I save in doc format, it may break formatting.
Although there is an option to disable it, it shouldn't be popped up 
even.
It will frighten more people to use it rather than attracting people to 
use

it.


We warn users expressly because the other formats are export formats, 
not the default native ODF document model that LibreOffice supports.


The .doc format is a filter 'export' from our native ODF document model. 
Likewise OOXML of .docx format.
For greatest fidelity to a document opened into LibreOffice you should 
be saving to an ODF format .odt.


If you need to exchange the document with someone who needs old binary 
MS Word formats, or more recent OOXML formats, once you have
saved to .odt--you can conveniently also Save-as export to those 
non-native formats--but you'll have the original fully formatted ODF 
document on hand.


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Re: [SOLVED] Re: [libreoffice-users] paragraph style

[V Stuart Foote]

On 2024-03-27 10:10, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

...
Well, it seems I found a better, more elegant solution.
Only a few days I discovered "by accident" the tiny three horizontal 
bars in the upper right corner of the 'side panel'.
If you click on those, a number of options appear, the first of which 
is "properties".


HERE the funny attributes of the style (ONE incident!) that went 
haywire were displayed and could be changed!

That was all.
Isn't it funny, nobody ever mentioned this little trick?


That entire UI feature is known as the the Sidebar [1]. It hosts a 
framework of 'Decks' that can be collapsed or expanded.
And each deck can contain multiple 'Content panels'. Navigation to the 
Decks is via the vertical Tab bar--the top button is the 'Properties' 
deck.


A picture is worthwhile so see this Wiki image over to grasp the 
terminology and layout [2]


The Sidebar has several viewing modes Shown, Hidden, Collapsed to vert 
Tab bar, or undocked to float--controlled from the "hamburger" icon 
you'd clicked. Sounds like you'd had it collapsed to its vertical tab 
bar.


The 'Spotlight' checkbox mentioned earlier appears on the SB 'Styles' 
Deck, directly reachable via shortcut . While at present (24.2 and 
24.8 builds) the 'Character Direct Formatting' is only available on the 
main toolbar 'Format' -> 'Spotlight' menu.


But the associated UNO commands can be assigned via the menu Tools -> 
Customize to other Menu, Toolbar, Context-menu, or Keyboard shortcuts.

Relevant UNO commands are:
.uno:SpotlightParaStyles (since 24.2)
.uno:SpotlightCharStyles (since 24.2)
.uno:HighlightCharDF (since 7.6)

Also the SB delivers the 'Style Inspector' Deck, kind of a new feature. 
It follows the position of the Edit cursor in the document and lists the 
Paragraph, Character style applied at the cursor position. It also will 
list any Direct Formatting applied (to character or to paragraph).  
Unfortunately at present it does not provide the same colored visual 
hints as the 'Spotlight' widgets. But it is still useful especially if 
you get more advanced in working with styling your documents.


Stuart

=-ref-=
[1] 
https://help.libreoffice.org/24.2/en-US/text/shared/01/menu_view_sidebar.html?=SHARED=WIN
[2] 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LO-HIG_SideeBar-Terminology.png


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Re: [libreoffice-users] paragraph style

[V Stuart Foote]

Thomas, *

On 2024-03-26 22:29, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

Using: Libreoffice 7.4.2.3, Windows 10, the text is in English, but 
includes a few Chinese characters


-> Well, I know only the heading style and naturally the page style.
If there is something else somewhere, how do I find out what that is - 
and how do I correct it?


Project has implemented new Style visualization "Spotlight" for applied 
Paragraph and Character styling.

Also for text spans with Direct Formatting.

Reachable from the F11 - Style deck of the Sidebar (checkbox bottom 
right), and as menu entries via the main Format -> Spotlight


Available at the 7.6.0 release, so time to update. See the release 
notes: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/7.6#Writer


Regards,

Stuart

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Office bugs (Windows 10 pro PC)

[V Stuart Foote]

On 2024-03-26 12:41, Dyutimoy Dutta wrote:
Hi Dutta

Actually issue with HighContrast on Win10/11 is known problem with our 
Skia support for software based raster rendering mode. The Skia Vulkan 
GPU rendering is not affected, but many systems will not run the Vulkan 
mode rendering by default.


See tdf#160036 Bugzilla 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160036


It has been corrected for the 24.2.2 release and master builds against 
24.8.0.


24.2.2 should be available in the next few days.  Please retest with the 
updated build.


Regards,

Stuart

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Window size.

[V Stuart Foote]

On 2024-03-01 12:29, Dave Howorth wrote:


Ami/Chris

If the problem occurs with Thunderbird as well as with LibreOffice then
the problem is not with LO, but most likely in your desktop
environment. So you need to take your problem to your distro's mailing
list or forum rather than an LO mailing list.


Not necessarily, given that we do have tdf#125543 in and dupes in BZ 
kicking around for the Linux os/DE vcl backends.


Stuart

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Re: [libreoffice-users] e-mail to author of Libreoffice

[V Stuart Foote]

Hi Jarek,

copying from your cross posted note at @nvda.groups.io


Long known issue that there is limited structural navigation of the 
document, and that as available content is sounded, anything not visible 
to the screen buffer is not parsed for reading by an NVDA Say all.


This is NVDA issue 4119  and also remains open as tdf#91739 from 2015 
for the LibreOffice project to address, but will likely also require 
NVDA work on the IAccessible2 filter.


A clunky work around of scrolling to the bottom of the document, and 
then back to the top seems to deliver most of reasonable sized documents 
via Say all.



Stuart


On 2024-01-27 04:28, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:

Hello Libreoffice users,

I would like to write to libreoffice support because I have one problem 
that needs to be solved. In order to use Libreoffice, I have a screen 
reader installed. When I open a document saved in Libreoffice, it is 
read to me line by line, instead of to have it read to me from 
beginning to end. It's the same as if you only saw one line of text.Do 
you know a contact to the support of Libreoffice?


 Best regards

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Re: [libreoffice-users] disappearing impress.

[V Stuart Foote]

That sounds like issue of tdf#125543 [1], corrected for LibreOffice 
7.6.2 and future 24.2.0 release.


[1] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125543

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Typing the sign double upper qoute

[V Stuart Foote]

On 2023-12-27 09:18, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:
Hello, I like the Libreoffice program, but I have one problem in the 
writer and I can't move it. The thing is that when I try to type double 
upper quotes using alt+0147 keys, I get a accessibility check. Could 
you please tell me how to turn off the check? Regards

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That is current LibreOffice BZ issue tdf$158112 
(https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158112)


Meanwhile, rather than the 255 MS ANSI ALT Codes you can simply enter 
the Unicode value and toggle, that is type U+201C and use +x. Or 
+c for some locales.


Any Unicode BMP or SMP is available (with font fallback by os/DE as 
needed).  The LibreOffice Special Character Dialog has a character map 
that will help you to identify the Unicode.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] I paid for my Libre Office

[V Stuart Foote]

No shaming please...

The Document Foundation has posted Official paid versions (currently at 
7.5.8 build release) on both the 'Microsoft Store' $US 4.59 and on the 
Apple 'Mac App Store' $US 8.99 for those that prefer that delivery 
mechanism. They are full builds and supported by the Community.


Builds of current 7.6.2 (7.6.3 is due out in 2 weeks) can be downloaded 
from the project pages 
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download-libreoffice/ along with 
the localized off-line help installers for your os/DE of choice.  
Development builds of the next release 24.2.0 are also available for 
preview and testing.


Stuart

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Re: [libreoffice-users] shrink size and font size of styles sidebar

[V Stuart Foote]

On 2023-09-30 08:47, Eric Beversluis wrote:

Sorry. I thought I had included the whole thread.

I had received these instructions for the styles sidebar in LO Writer:
    Use Tools -> Options -> Advanced  "Open Expert Configuration"
    Search for "minimumwidth"
    Click the "Edit" button to directly toggle  'MinimumWidth' boolean 
value from  "true" to "false"

    OK out to apply.
    The Sidebar Deck can now be dragged as narrow as needed before it 
will collapse to show just the deck TAB Bar


My problem now is that the minimumwidth setting keeps (randomly, as far 
as I can tell) reverting to "true," and I have to go in again and reset 
it to false.


So does anyone know why that would happen, how I can get it to stay at 
"false"? It's not like I re-installed or even updated LO when it 
happens. I've got LO 7.4.6.2, build 
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=core.git;a=log;h=5b1f5509c2decdade7fda905e3e1429a67acd63d


running on Ubuntu 20.04 on Dell XPS 9315 using the Dell image that came 
with the computer.


==



Sorry you're having issues. But can not confirm, the value [false | true 
(default)] set for 'minimumwidth' is retained in profile with 7.6.2 
build and current builds of master against 24.2.0 release.


When set the stanza in the registrymodifications.xcu registry setting 
will be--
oor:name="MinimumWidth" oor:op="fuse">false


Only deleting that profile .xcu, or doing a profile reset (via UI) 
should cause loss of the the value. Otherwise with profile intact--it 
would require an intentional edit to toggle the setting back to 'false'.


If you actually see the value changing in an unexplained 
fashion--pleasse file a ticket in the project Bugzilla.


Stuart

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Fwd: [libreoffice-users] CVE-2023-36664 - GhostScript Vulnerability

[V Stuart Foote]

Hi Cody,

Thanks for asking. Have forwarded to the TDF security folks.

But off hand, LibreOffice does not build or install the ghostscript 
package. It just consumes it in several calls.


Users/sysadmins need only update their install of ghostscript from 
distro repo or from Artifex and ghostscript directly. The 10.01.2 build 
looks to have been patched.


https://ghostscript.com/releases/gsdnld.html

Stuart


 Original Message 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] CVE-2023-36664 - GhostScript Vulnerability
Date: 2023-07-17 13:01
From: "Gregg, Cody" 
To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" 

Good Afternoon

Regarding CVE-2023-36664 can you tell me which versions of LibreOffice 
this effects and if you plan on releasing a patch to fix this 
vulnerability?


Best Regards,

Cody Gregg
IT Systems Analyst
Life Care Centers of America
3001 Keith St NW
Cleveland, TN 37312
cody_gr...@lcca.com<mailto:cody_gr...@lcca.com>

Extension: 5826  |  Direct: 423.473.5826

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Re: How do I hire a developer for a bugfix (was Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Impress and Speaker's Notes With pptx Files)

[V Stuart Foote]

Further to Eyal's very on point write-up, two other avenues:

1. Install the Collabora Online product, or *better* persuade your 
company to invest in annual licensing of Collabora Online for users like 
yourself that are on non-MS supported platforms. Collabora is responsive 
to user suggestions.


2. over the years there have been a few attempts at crowd funding. See 
the TDF Wiki listing for state and contacts:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Crowdfunding

Stuart

On 2023-06-11 12:35, Eyal Rozenberg wrote:

LO is not exactly ...




On 11/06/2023 17:13, Thomas Cameron wrote:

Hey, all -

I finally got a response on my bug report. Seems like this bug has 
been

known for 11 years.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47825

Now, I get that LO is run by volunteers. I am not upset. But I would
definitely love to get this fixed. I see a BUNCH of folks on the bug
report who are affected. So my question is, other than subscribing to
the developer's list, does anyone know of any bug bounty program, or
even professional developers for hire I could pay to fix this bug? I
have received a TON of value from LibreOffice, and I am willing to pay
someone to fix this. It's the right thing to do.

So how would I go about finding a developer and funding their work to
fix this bug?

Thomas



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[libreoffice-users] blood pressure readings template

[V Stuart Foote]

[libreoffice-users]
Serena Clooney
Tue, 18 Apr 2023 18:01:50 +0100
Hi

I wonder if you could please help me.

We have been asked to record my 92 yr old mum's blood pressure readings 
at

home and to present the results in spreadsheet form to our GP.

Can anyone help with a Libreoffice template to help record these daily
readings,please?

Many thanks
Srena

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Have a look at these templates, either might work for you.

https://extensions.libreoffice.org/en/extensions/show/blood-pressure-weight-body-mass-index-tracking

or

https://extensions.libreoffice.org/en/extensions/show/body-parameters-monitor

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Office doesn't handle its own graphics?

[V Stuart Foote]

Further to Robert's response. You can also OLE object insert an ODF 
drawing document .ODG (main menu Insert -> OLE Object -> OLE Object...).


But will need to select the 'Create from file' radio button on the 
dialog. Will have to adjust the resulting OLE frame to your needs.
You can also choose to link to the OLE object (allowing changes to the 
original to update the insertion on its next edit session).


It is functional, but it is usually much more efficient to export from 
Draw in a raster or vector format, and then insert that image cleanly.


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[libreoffice-users] shrink size and font size of styles sidebar

[V Stuart Foote]

Sorry for the top post...

Use Tools -> Options -> Advanced  "Open Expert Configuration"

Search for "minimumwidth"

Click the "Edit" button to directly toggle  'MinimumWidth' boolean value from  
"true" to "false"

OK out to apply.

The Sidebar Deck can now be dragged as narrow as needed before it will collapse 
to show just the deck TAB Bar

=-=-=


Fri, 3 Mar 2023 16:26:09 -0500


How do I shrink the styles sidebar? Zoom works lovely on the main window--I 
used "optimal" most of the time, but that doesn't help if I can't shrink the 
styles sidebar.

I can drag to make it bigger but not to make it smaller than a certain size. 
And I can't find anywhere to change the font size. So, for example, if I need 
to shrink the entire Writer window down to share screen space I end up with the 
styles sidebar taking up half the window with large type even when the main doc 
window type is so small it's hardly readable.

There must be some way to do this. I just can't find it.

Thanks.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] "reverse solidus" not working in the find dialog box - update

[V Stuart Foote]

See tdf#108256 and its dupes...

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108256

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with find & replace.

[V Stuart Foote]

Dave, *

LibreOffice uses the ICU Regular Expression libraries. Full documentation is 
here:

https://unicode-org.github.io/icu/userguide/strings/regexp.html

While the projects documentation for its use is here:

https://help.libreoffice.org/7.3/en-US/text/shared/01/0211.html

https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/bs/text/swriter/guide/search_regexp.html

There have been a number of tweaks for handling new line/end of para that you 
can track in Bugzilla.

Stuart


From: Dave Barton 
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 5:21 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [libreoffice-users] Help with find & replace.

  **EXTERNAL EMAIL**
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Hi jomali,

Would you care to elaborate and provide links?

Dave

On 16/03/2022 22:04, jomali wrote:
> I just looked at LibreOffice help, searched for Regular Expressions,
> selected the list of regular expressions, and found all of the info you are
> looking for..
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 5:55 PM Dave Barton  wrote:
>
>>
>> Fantastic, but why does the LO project *_NOT_* inform it's users about
>> this *_HIDDEN_* option?
>>
>> Please provide links to the the TDF/LO Help/Documentation files that
>> provide this information to our users.
>>


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Cannot change Icon Style

[V Stuart Foote]

The WDM delivering a HC theme will always result in LO using the Sifr icon 
theme--that is hard coded and triggered by the HC mode.

Take windows out of it HC mode and you can change to other icon themes in 
LibreOffice.


From: emril 
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 9:05 AM
To: LibreOffice 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [libreoffice-users] Cannot change Icon Style


The LibreOffice icon style is Sifr. When I  select another one
and click Apply, it returns to Sifr. What's wrong?

Also, one thing I miss from OpenOffice is that it had a nice
high contrast icon theme. I wish they had something similar in
LibreOffice...


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[libreoffice-users] Re: [EXTERNAL] Special Character - checkmark

[V Stuart Foote]

Charles,

Well you could try the Unicode combining glyphs -- U+035F COMBINING DOUBLE 
MACRON BELOW

Enter "U+0059U+035fU+006fU+035fU+0075U+035fU+0072" and then toggle with 
+X, effectiveness will vary by font.

Alternatively, LO provides an artificial underline effect from the 'Format 
Chracter' dialog (Format -> Character on main menu) on the 'Font Effects' tab: 
Underlining decoration.




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Re: [EXTERNAL] [libreoffice-users] Special Character - checkmark

[V Stuart Foote]

Not even close.  Decimal 61,692 or hex F0FC would be in the Unicode Private Use 
Area--meaning it would depend on the font you were attempting to use.

In LibreOffice, with a specific font selected active you would enter U+F0FC on 
the document canvas, and then use +X to convert from Unicode to the glyph 
at the codepoint.  If not defined in the font, you'd get a generic undefined 
glyph.

Instead, try a known Unicode point for a check mark, and a known font (e.g. 
OpenSymbol).

Type U+2611 and then +X to toggle.  If you don't like the box, try U+2713 
and toggle.


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Re: [EXTERNAL] [libreoffice-users] Re: Adapting row height is slow

[V Stuart Foote]

As the sheet opens on the status bar at bottom of the Calc UI, a "Loading 
document" and progress bar appears, followed by the "Adapting row height" and 
its progress bar--when applicable to the spreadsheet.

Appearance is timer based, so high row counts and formatting being applied for 
large sheets trigger appearance of the progress bar. It often won't show for 
short sheets.

There is no manual control, nor other way to observe sheet loading directly.


From: Mike Flannigan
Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 6:42 AM


How do you view the progress and activities during the
opening of a large file?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc: Adapting row height is slow

[V Stuart Foote]

The other way is to open the ODF archive Zip and directly (e.g. with 7-zip) and 
edit the 'content.xml' file (gvim works well when set as the Editor for 7-zip).

Find and change the 'use-optimal-row-height="true"' to "false"; there should 
only be a couple of these style settings. Save the changed contentl.xml file 
back into the Zip archive.

A little more tricky, to open the archive and edit the XML directly, but less 
potential to make other changes to ODS Sheet formatting done like this.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc: Adapting row height is slow

[V Stuart Foote]

That is issue of 
tdf#124098 and 
caused by tdf#62268
 see comments at end of bug 62268.

Simple workaround is to get the sheet open and then remove the optimal row 
height by selecting all cells and setting a row height from Format -> Rows -> 
Height.

It will tweak the layout of the sheet but will restore reasonable opening speed.


From: David Lynch
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 4:04 AM

I have a large (10 by 100) but simple spreadsheet.

When loading and, sometimes, editing it appears to take longer "Adapting
row height" than the rest of the processing put together. I am happy
with the existing row height and do not want it adapted.

Is there anything I can do to eliminate or speed up this part of the
processing?

David Lynch

Version: 7.1.4.2 (x64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: a529a4fab45b75fefc5b6226684193eb000654f6
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19041; UI render: Skia/Raster;
VCL: win
Locale: en-GB (en_GB); UI: en-GB
Calc: threaded



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Re: [EXTERNAL] [libreoffice-users] Non-breaking dash/hyphen

[V Stuart Foote]

NPC -- Non-Printing Character [1]

The LibreOffice VCL canvas will apply "field" shading to a broad class of 
control and non-printing characters, we've asked to give them more distinction 
from fielded values [2]

=-ref-=
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_character

[2] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58434



From: John Kaufmann 
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2021 2:21 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [libreoffice-users] Non-breaking dash/hyphen

Excellent! (I was wondering what happened to U+2011 as I investigated the 
"General Punctuation" group.) So it's just a matter of the Liberation family 
not covering the U+2011 codepoint - but a replacement glyph is provided. Thanks!

You used a term I don't recognize: "NPC".  My search turned up that it is a 
popular abbreviation for "non-playing character" in domains like WoW, Runelite 
and lots of other things of which I know nothing, but fortunately I don't think 
you used it in that context. I suspect it is close to that textually -- "non" 
 "character" -- but I decided I had best ask: ?


On 2021-03-24 14:56, V Stuart Foote wrote:
> You've missed the one Unicode point that does exactly what you require, but 
> its use will depend on the font in use.
>
> U+2011 NON-BREAKING HYPHEN
>
> You can enter via LibreOffice Special Character dialog, or LibreOffice's 
> Unicode toggle. That is you can type U+2011 and then +X to toggle the 
> glyph.
>
> If the font in use does not "cover" the codepoint, you'll get a fallback 
> replacement or possibly the no glyph value for the font.
>
> When added to canvas the non-breaking hyphen character will receive NPC 
> highlighting.
>
>


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Re: [EXTERNAL] [libreoffice-users] Non-breaking dash/hyphen

[V Stuart Foote]

You've missed the one Unicode point that does exactly what you require, but its 
use will depend on the font in use.

U+2011 NON-BREAKING HYPHEN

You can enter via LibreOffice Special Character dialog, or LibreOffice's 
Unicode toggle. That is you can type U+2011 and then +X to toggle the 
glyph.

If the font in use does not "cover" the codepoint, you'll get a fallback 
replacement or possibly the no glyph value for the font.

When added to canvas the non-breaking hyphen character will receive NPC 
highlighting.



From: John Kaufmann 
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2021 1:31 PM
To: LibreOffice Users 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [libreoffice-users] Non-breaking dash/hyphen

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I had always thought that the difference between a "dash" and a "hyphen" is 
that the dash is a character (that is, will not break a character string), 
while the hyphen hyphenates (that is, breaks at the end of a line if the 
character string following the hyphen is too long to fit on the line).  So, 
needing a non-breaking substitute for that horizontal bar on my keyboard, I 
invoked:
Insert > Special Character
to get (what I would call) a dash.

LibreOffice has such mid-height horizontal-bar characters in three character 
groups:
"General punctuation", characters:
U+2010 (HYPHEN)
U+2012 (FIGURE DASH)
U_2013 (EN DASH)
U+2014 (EM DASH)
U+2015 (HORIZONTAL BAR)
"Mathematical Operators", character:
U+2212 (MINUS SIGN)
"Box Drawing", character:
U+2500 (BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT HORIZONTAL)

The five characters of the "General Punctuation" group mostly seem to just 
represent different widths of hyphen (despite three being called FIGURE DASH, 
EN DASH, EM DASH), in that in a character string each will end a line of 
characters if the string following is too long to fit. Only the HORIZONTAL BAR 
acts as a common character, such that the string of which it is a member will 
not break there; but it is very long to be used as a non-breaking hyphen.

The MINUS SIGN in the "Mathematical Operators" group has a special operation: 
It will break at the end of a line, but will itself move to the next line, to 
stay with the character following MINUS SIGN.

The BOX DRAWINGS LIGHT HORIZONTAL character acts like the HORIZONTAL BAR -- 
that is, as a true, non-breaking character -- but is also too long to be used 
generally as a non-breaking hyphen.

Is there a clean way to make a non-breaking dash/hyphen?

-John

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Graphics with Libre Draw or Writer

[V Stuart Foote]

Draw gives you what you'll need. But if your want simpler, have a look at the 
Dia project   . 




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[libreoffice-users] Re: OTM documents

[V Stuart Foote]

toki wrote
> How does one construct an .OTM document?
> ...
> 
> At this stage, I'd settle for a sample.otm.

Jonathon,

Just assemble one. It works as expected, if you need help perhaps see
Byfield's "Designing with LibreOffice"
pgs. 324 - 342

Stuart





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[libreoffice-users] Re: Java aches are back with LO7

[V Stuart Foote]

Luuk wrote
> On 8-8-2020 04:04, Marc Grober wrote:
>> Have had a working and regularly upgraded LO6.x for quite a while now
>> using Oracle Java 12 and now 14.0.1 (MacOS Catalina)

Two open issues:
tdf#135479 -- LO Complains about missing JDK when accessing any Java
functionality, despite recognizing JDK on macOS under Preferences
   tdf#135462 --
LibreOffice 7.0.0.3 does not recognise JRE installation location at startup
other than those in /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines
  

If  system is on default macOS Java path, then likely is the first...



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Re: [libreoffice-users] disappearing slider in impress

[V Stuart Foote]

Sounds like you've undocked the Slides pane.

Help article is here:  
https://help.libreoffice.org/6.4/en-US/text/shared/guide/autohide.html




From: anne-ology
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 10:37 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] disappearing slider in impress

   Having no problems until once again that slider on the left side decided
to disappear;

  then somehow it re-appeared, but now is only 1/2 the length size,
rather than extending the length of the space on the left side,
 it's 1/2 the size & is in a floating (?) rather than stable
position.

   Please explain what causes this to disappear; & please explain how to
get it back - & now how to get it back to its original size & into its
permanent, rather than floating spot.

   Thanks in advance,
   & keep up the good work,

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Insert Date - Special Characters - Scanning

[V Stuart Foote]

John Kaufmann wrote
> On 2020-06-29 13:46, Philip Jackson wrote:
>> 
>> The special characters listed are font dependent. For example, the symbol
>> you are looking for is not shown under mathematical operators in the
>> 'Liberation Serif' font but if you select 'Linux Biolinum O' font, you
>> will see it listed as hexadecimal U+226F or decimal 8815       ≯
>> 
>> Of course, you may not have Biolinum on your machine, but check under the
>> various fonts you do have.
> 
> Very nice, Philip. Do you know of a quick way to query which fonts in
> system include a particular character (that is short of manually testing
> each font)?

For Windows users, the freeware BabelMap utility (Andrew West's BabelStone
project) is helpful. Do this lookup from its Fonts -> 'Font Coverage...'
dialog.

Project page is here: https://www.babelstone.co.uk/Software/BabelMap.html



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Probem with LibreOffice 6.4.4 and Windows 10 2004

[V Stuart Foote]

ycollette.nospam wrote
> Hello,
> 
> I started Libreoffice in failsafe mode and deactivated OpenGL / OpenCL.
> After that Impress starts again to show the gui. But it was still freezing
> after a while.
> Then, I got into Tools -> Options -> Display and deactivated everything in
> "image rendering" (there was an OpenGL entry ...).
> 
> Now, it looks like impress is working again.
> 
> So, maybe something related to display driver was delivered with 2004
> which is not really supported by libreoffice ...
> 
> Thanks for the advice !

Please note that OpenGL GPU support has little to do with the OpenCL
features used in Calc, so you should be fine to reenable the OpenCL and
check.

Also, OpenGL is being deprecated in favor of a Skia Vulkan rendering--that
is already in place for the 7.0 release of LibreOffice where OpenGL is only
available via the Advanced -> Expert Configuration dialog.   There are
driver/GPU pairing issues still with Skia--and Vulkan vector engine may be
blocked, but driver support is more consistent.

Point is, when convenient take a 7.0 or 7.1 nightly build out for test drive
with Skia rendering support. Done with a "msiexec.exe /A" administrative
install of the MSI package.  Assistance here:  Installing in parallel on
Windows   



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Table toolbar

[V Stuart Foote]

John Jason Jordan-2 wrote
> LO 6.342 from the LO PPA on Xubuntu 18.04
> 
> I have a simple table with text data, no calculations or fancy stuff.
> Every time I put the cursor in a cell the table toolbars pop up, and
> usually on top of my work. I don't ever need the table toolbar. If I
> really wanted the toolbar I know how to get it to appear. How can I tell
> LO to cool its jets and leave me alone?

That is the "contextual" nature of the toolbar responding to UI navigation
onto a Table object.  

You can limit its annoyance by launching the toolbar (View -> Toolbars ->
Table) and from its context menu: select 'Dock Toolbar'.   Default position
will be at the bottom of the LibreOffice frame, above the 'Status bar'. But
it can be dragged to redock at any location in the frame.

And aside from simply docking the toolbar,  as Dave B. notes, if you uncheck 
View -> Toolbars menu entry while the toolbar is visible it will remain
hidden while navigating onto Table objects, or when creating new tables.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: calc import xml on open not working

[V Stuart Foote]

Dave Stevens wrote
> So I routinely need to open a .xls file. I'd prefer to use calc but it
> opens the sheet as a text file, showing me the xml. f I use gnumeric it
> defaults to displaying the sheet. I suppose there's a setting for this
> in Calc but I don't know where. Anyone else know?
> 
> D

This would seem to be an import filter issue.  There have been a few (last
the 4.3 release), but the filter handling always is dependent on what actual
file structure is being parsed against a .xls extension.

Meaning, we need to see an example of the .XLS file causing you greief, and
knwo the specifics of your LibreOffice build and operating system and
Desktop Environment.

Those details are best provided in the project Bugzilla instance--
bugs.documentfoundation.org

  
please submit there, and provide the issue  ID back to this ML.

Thanks!

Stuart



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Hot keys for LO programs

[V Stuart Foote]

@snowshed

Please don't hijack a mail thread like this. Open a new mail thread.

I've opened a BZ enhancement request for the native code that would be
needed to support this Windows 10 os/DE  feature.  Until then-this is
unsupported native Windows 10 code.

tdf#129870   


snowshed wrote
> I found a less than desirable design flaw, at least while using Task 
> Views in Windows 10.  Did anyone actually try it?
> 
> Have LO running in one view.  Have your browser open in another view. 
> In LO, press F1 to open the help file.  It opens in the browser in a 
> different task view, not in the view where LO is.  So you have to switch 
> views, disconnect the help tab, and move the new browser window to the 
> view where LO is.
> 
> What happened to the simplicity of having the help file simply open in a 
> dedicated window in the same view as LO?





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update availability not showing within LO

[V Stuart Foote]

Hi TIm,

No mystery. The signature string and version string has not been added to the 
update-check script which posts to:

https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/website/tree/check.php?h=update

It will get done eventually.

Meanwhile, you can look over the project archive builds and 'Mirror List' 
details including package HASH values any time at:

http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/

Stuart






From: Tim Deaton 
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 11:43 AM
To: LO users 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Update availability not showing within LO

I'm using LO Version: 6.2.7.1 (x64) on a Win7 (64-bit) desktop pc (all
updates applied).

LO v6.2.8 was announced nearly two weeks ago, yet no update icon appears
in the upper-right area of either Calc or Writer, and when I go to
|Help|Check For Updates| (in either one) I am still told that I am
up-to-date.

Am I mis-understanding something about how that is supposed to work?

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[libreoffice-users] Re: PaletteMaker v.1.0 is out

[V Stuart Foote]

@Jean-Francois.


Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote
> #2 is on its way (and already implemented in the v.1.5 I've got here).
> 
> For your suggestion #1, I can't find any API entry that would help 
> creating the RGB2HSV values. I guess I've overlooked something...
> Can you give any pointer here?

Hmm, you may have made a wrong turn here, likely my fault for not responding
sooner--sorry!

I just  opened the Macro in palettemaker_v1_1_0_0_en-2.ods and noticed
you're attempting a conversion of RGB2HSL ('L' luminance), we don't use
those values in the LibreOffice "Color Picker".

 We do use HSL values, but  just in a few places when we are adjusting
colors for the UI, or in image editing. 

For palette work the values are HSV -- 'V' value  (also known as HSB -- 'B'
brightness )  a much simpler algorithm to implement which LibO does in
bcolortools [1], as used by the "Color Picker" to during color space
conversions in the GUI [2]. 

The other thing I noticed--after enabling macros, if I import a large color
palette for editing the sheet holding the palette gives the count of colors
in the palette then truncates the sheet at 1100 colors.  Some folks like
really large palettes--is there a hard limit preventing the sheet from going
larger? 


=-ref-=
[1]
https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/basegfx/source/color/bcolortools.cxx?r=7ceee0f1#103
[2]
https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/cui/source/dialogs/colorpicker.cxx?r=51fa45c8#81


 



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Font size in Formula bar

[V Stuart Foote]

Heiko Tietze-5 wrote
> Now I found the patch: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/78140/
> Submitted on Sep/05 for release 6.4. The issue was reported on our
> bugtracker at https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127066,
> please comment if you think it should go into the next version of
> LibreOffice Fresh 6.3.2.
> 
> On 06.09.19 20:23, Heiko Tietze wrote:
>> This patch has been reverted recently.
>> 

@Heiko, I reopened the BZ issue as the patch needs backport to make a 6.3.2
release. Could you roll it -- Stuart



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Security Problema CVE-2019-9848 e CVE-2019-9848 and patch for Fresh not for Steel

[V Stuart Foote]

ANDREA   FERRARIS wrote
> Sorry for the wrong language, here You are the translation:
> 
> I think it's been known for weeks, published about a month ago and 
> rather serious because it allows the arbitrary execution of python 
> scripts without the user's knowledge when opening a malicious document.
> 
> The solution provided is the upgrade to version 6.2.5, which however 
> does not seem optimal, since it is the Fresh version of development,
> whereas if one wanted to remain on the production one, Steel 6.1.X, how 
> he should do?
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> 
>> Andrea Ferraris
>> 


CVE-2019-9847 , CVE-2019-9848,  and CVE-2019-9849 have all be corrected by
TDF for current "Fresh" 6.3.0 and "Still" 6.2.5 release builds. Follow the
TDF  Discuss mail list
   for any
security related issues.

Otherwise, sorry but the 6.1 branch is not supported by TDF, it is
End-of-Life effective  2019-05-29

The 6.3 branch was released 2019-08-08 and its 6.3.0 build is current
"Fresh" release

The 6.2 branch has now become the "Still" branch, with the patched 6.2.5
release available (and the 6.2.6 release candidate already built and
available for testing).

Meaning that  either users Linux distro must update their packaging, or
users must seek 3rd party support to continue to use a 6.1 or pre 6.2.5
build of LibreOffice.

But again this belongs on the Discuss mail list.






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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Writer 6.2.5 Reopen cursor fails to return to last point of prior edit

[V Stuart Foote]

MR ZenWiz wrote
> ...
> Is anyone else seeing this?

No. But have you verified that you have an entry made in your User Data?

Tools -> Options -> User Data panel, with some entry in the First/last
name/initials: fields.

If they are blank (clearing a profile) the reopening will not be associated
with the user, and you text cursor will not be where left on last edit.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Gmail Saving in Libre Writer

[V Stuart Foote]

charles meyer wrote
> Gotta' use webmail at work - not TB.
> ...

But, why try to move it?  Just push into archive in your Gmail account--that
retains the pretty functional search that Gmail implements.

Otherwise you can export/dump the mail using Google's Takeout services [1] ,
results in --mbox--formated mail archive, and then use a portable reader (no
install) to review.  Something like MBox Viewer as an example:

SourceForge - Windows MBox Viewer
  

Or there are more robust mbox file viewers that would require an
installation. Many free, but offering fee based advanced support.

Working in LibreOffice would probably require parsing the .mbox files and
loading to Calc cells, or better to SQL tables with a Base form--but search
will be an issue.  The Apache Tika project offers an mbox parser in Java to
extract meta from the mbox for fielded data loads.  But I don't think there
is anything turn-key for either Calc or Base.

Good luck... and let us know how it goes.

Stuart F.

=-ref-=
[1]  Google Takeout service    






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[libreoffice-users] Re: PaletteMaker v.1.0 is out

[V Stuart Foote]

Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote
> ...
> PaletteMaker can be donwloaded from my friend Ysabeau's web site, here:
> -- EN version
> https://numericoach.net/PaletteMaker-a-macro-that-makes
> -- FR version
> http://www.numericoach.net/PaletteMaker-une-macro-qui-genere-des-palettes
> 
> 
> Of course, any remark, criticism or suggestion is welcome.
> ...

Jean-Francois,

Very nice!  When ready would hope you will post the project Templates site:

https://extensions.libreoffice.org/templates

Two comments on its current state if I may:

1.) Rather than (or in addition to) the CMY value column, would suggest
provide an HSB (Hue-Saturation-Brightness) to match the rgb2hsv values
(https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/basegfx/source/color/bcolortools.cxx?r=7ceee0f1#103)
used in the 'Pick a color' dialog now. 

2.) possibly add a chart to show the working palette as it would be laid out
in our 12 column by X rows when used in the colorpicker palette GUI.

Stuart



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[libreoffice-users] Re: re: ​Convert .wps into Ms Word format

[V Stuart Foote]

charles meyer wrote
> ...
> 
> I visited the "official" Libre Office site but there's no listing for a 32
> bit version workable on a Windows 7 laptop.
> 
> Can you pls share the exact link to a download version of the most recent
> Libre Office usable on a 32-bit Windows 7 PC?

Archive of release builds
  , I'd
suggest the 6.2.5.2 -> win -> x86

You'll want the core install, and perhaps a localized Help pack.

LibreOffice_6.2.5.2_Win_x86.msi

Let us know if you are still stuck.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: "/" character disappears in Writer

[V Stuart Foote]

txemaclon wrote
> Hello,
> This is my first post, so greetings to everyone.
> After a lot of years using Microsoft products, i recently moved to Linux
> Mint and also to Libreoffice.
> I find a little problem using Writer. When i type "/" into a filesystem
> path
> (example: /home/user/) it disappears and the characters change tu
> italics. 
> How could i change this behavior? (I could not find it at "options",
> either
> searching at this forum).
> Regards;

You will find that in Tools -> AutoCorrect -> AutoCorrect Options
on the Options tab two check boxes (M - while modifying, T - while typing)
for the stanza "Automatic *bold*,/ italic/,- strikeout-,_underline_"

Just uncheck, and OK to apply. Remember to revert if you need the feature
otherwise.

Stuart




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[libreoffice-users] Re: insert non-breaking semi-space

[V Stuart Foote]

Luuk wrote
> Why did this option not get a 'reserverd place in the menu' ? together 
> with the shortcut-key reference (
> 
> +X) ?
> 
> An option like 
> 
> +C is only known to all people (more than 75 % ??), 
> because the shortcut key is next to it in the menu!

Hmm, interesting question.  The BZ tdf#73691 sheds no light, and I can't
remember any discussion of adding it to a menu. But it was prominently
advertised in the release notes for 5.1

  

The actual .uno:UnicodeNotationToggle command is available to assign in
Customization receiving default en-US name in Customization of "Toggle
Unicode Notation" and can be added to Menu, Toolbars, and Context menu. It
shows for LibreOffice globally as +x -- Command Name and the keyboard
shortcut are localized and configured by os.

 I could possibly see it assigned to the Standard toolbar, adjacent to the
Special character dialog button. 
But, I'm not sure how it could be ussed from menu, and which menu -- Insert, 
Format or even Tools -- would hold it. Checked, and it does _not_ appear on
any MS Office menus.

So kind of seems the enhancement of the BZ issue was fully implemented--with
no functional reason to add it to a menu just to expose the shortcut.

Stuart




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[libreoffice-users] Re: insert non-breaking semi-space

[V Stuart Foote]

Eric Beversluis wrote
> Thanks. Looks like I want to use “thin space” Hex 200A. Is there an easy
> way to do that from the keyboard? None of the ways I’ve used on Linux or
> Windows seem to work.
> 
> Eric Beversluis


Johnny Rosenberg wrote
> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/183045/how-can-i-type-unicode-characters-without-using-the-mouse
> Kind regards

More simply, if you know the Unicode point desired, U+200A --it can be
directly entered into LibreOffice and then toggled directly. The shortcut in
Windows, Linux is: +x.

If macOS we had to use a different shortcut:  CMD+Option+x 

(implemented in tdf#73691 as modified, macOS assigned internally in
LibreOffice source to use  X_MOD1_MOD2).

That should allow you to directly enter a known Unicode glyph, just be
mindful that if working with a font that does not define a glyph you'll be
dependent on font fallback and/or will receive an "undefined glyph"
placeholder on document canvas.

Stuart



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[libreoffice-users] Re: compose characters

[V Stuart Foote]

Thomas Blasejewicz-3 wrote
> ...
> All I ever get is a diacritical mark either left or right from the M.
> I would appreciate if someone could point me in the right direction.
> ...

It is not you, each font sets metrics for positioning the combining
diacritics--many get it wrong.

For example type "u+004du+0305", leaving the cursor after the 5. Then enter 
an +x to toggle--that will combine the glyphs, but position of the
overbar will vary by font.

Liberation Serif is just wrong. Dejavu Serif and Dejavu Sans are correct, as
is Linux Libertine G--but coverage is spotty.
 
Noto Sans and Noto Serif are about the most consistent.

For above marks -- U+0305, or U+035e
For below marks -- U+0332, or U+035f

=-ref-=
Wikipedia article  Combining character
  



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Interesting problem opening files in Libreoffice 6.2

[V Stuart Foote]

Musical Neptunian wrote
> ...
> So I opened up Libreoffice writer in Safe Mode. Then I dragged my docx
> file
> into it. Then it opens in Libreoffice and allows me to change textboxes. I
> am not sure though if this is a good outcome. Because the format is
> slightly different; the page reads straight down rather than 2 pages on
> the  screen at a time. But for the moment it is good enough.
> 
> ...

When you relaunch in Safe Mode you get a default user profile.

 Document view with default profile is "Single page view", your profile was
probably set to "Multiple page view", or pssibly "Book view"-- select from
the three page icons on the Status bar lower right of frame next to the Zoom
slider. 

Document formatting can change depending on settings in defaults compared to
customizations in user profile.

Personally, moving between major releases of LibreOffice, I would use the
Safe mode selector to clean up user profile--a complete flush back to
defaults is often the best approach (needing to recreate customizations and 
reinstall any extensions), but worth the effort for a clean UX.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: autotext? question.

[V Stuart Foote]

Oh sorry , I see now. I'm not sure how you've linked the text string  
"formula"  to be a macro to launch the standard autotext.  Not aware it 
can be within LibreOffice.

Set as an os/DE keyboard macro--outside LibreOffice--but calling the "FN"+ 
autotext?



From: Thomas Blasejewicz
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 11:23 PM
To: V Stuart Foote
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: autotext? question.

Thank you.
I just found that entry.
FN+F3 is fine by me, but how do I get rid of "formula"+enter.
I could not (yet) find a way to edit (delete) those standard entries.

Thomas


On 2019/04/16 12:49, V Stuart Foote wrote:
> That is the "Formula Numbering" standard autotext--shortcut is "FN".
>

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[libreoffice-users] Re: autotext? question.

[V Stuart Foote]

That is the "Formula Numbering" standard autotext--shortcut is "FN".  

Enter the shortcut, then apply the autotext with 

And, to review all the established entries, standard, template and any
custom set in profile, Open the AutoTtext dialog with +F3.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: how to reformat this?

[V Stuart Foote]

If you toggle the Formatting Marks on, with +F10, you will see that
each line is actually a paragraph.  You need to collapse the multiple lines
into single lines with the Find & Replace dialog.  But before that you'll
want to mark the actual paragraph endings with a unique text sequence.
You'll need that to split things back up after they're joined.

Select all of the Text you need to reformat.

Open the Find & Replace dialog, with +H, enable its Regular
Expressions check box.

Enter "$" in the Find field
Enter " " in the Replace field

Your choice then to Find Next / Replace, or Find All / Replace All

Then do the same against the  text marks you set. But here your replacement
is "\n".
 



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-users] Buttons/Icons missing from the form Formatting Toolbar.

[V Stuart Foote]

Believe display of the LTR and RTL toolbar buttons are dependent on the 
Language settings. Support for CTL (language can be none) must be checked 
enabled (Tools -> Options -> Language Settings -> Languages).  Then restart 
Calc.


From: Dave Barton 
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 10:16 PM
To: LibreOffice Users; LibreOffice Documentation
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-users] Buttons/Icons 
missing from the form Formatting Toolbar.

Hi Mike,

Thanks for checking. I thought it might be a Windows only issue.

I resolved my screen capture requirements by running the most recent
portable edition, where all 4 buttons appear on the formatting toolbar
by default.

In another email Ilmari indicated that he intended to consult the design
team, so I will hold off filing a bug report for the moment.

Dave

 Original Message  
Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-users]
Buttons/Icons missing from the form Formatting Toolbar.
From: Michael Manning 
To: LibreOffice Users , LibreOffice
Documentation 
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2019 10:51:00 +1100

> Hi Dave,
> I see exactly the same problem in my older version of Libreoffice (ver.
> 5.1.6.2) running on Linux Mint (version 18.3).
> The buttons appear for a fraction of a second when I turn these buttons on
> or off but then disappear.
>
> regards
>
> Mike
>
>
> On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 03:53, Dave Barton  wrote:
>
>> I am working to complete a chapter of the LO Calc 6.2 user guide and I
>> just need a couple of small screen captures to finish. I need to capture
>> the Formatting toolbar Text Direction and Text orientation
>> buttons/icons, but I cannot get them to display in Calc 6.2 on either
>> Windows 7 or 10.
>> Here 
>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediafire.com%2Fview%2F330vht9270jkaiv%2FMissing.png%2Ffiledata=02%7C01%7Cvstuart.foote%40utsa.edu%7C869d39c6594a42d029bb08d6b0d0824c%7C3a228dfbc64744cb88357b20617fc906%7C0%7C0%7C636890806965355332sdata=uE75RLR5BuMxgDxSMo3rYDLCFxS3gEhzGKb6F8JfIrM%3Dreserved=0
>>
>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediafire.com%2Fview%2F330vht9270jkaiv%2FMissing.png%2Ffilehttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediafire.com%2Fview%2F330vht9270jkaiv%2FMissing.png%2Ffiledata=02%7C01%7Cvstuart.foote%40utsa.edu%7C869d39c6594a42d029bb08d6b0d0824c%7C3a228dfbc64744cb88357b20617fc906%7C0%7C0%7C636890806965365336sdata=MXux%2BHebwTGjLKShiPlkyZcnE5H6KcApC8FSRq5bpE4%3Dreserved=0
>> is a capture of the failed customization dialog.
>> Maybe I have missed it, but I haven't been able to find a report on this
>> issue in Bugzilla.
>> Are any other Windows users experiencing the same problem with toolbar
>> buttons/icons not displaying in Calc?
>>
>> TIA
>> Dave
>>
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Draw changes font when opening pdf text file.

[V Stuart Foote]

The pdfimport was brought in from the Sun/Oracle extension. It was never
intended to provide PDF editing, nor does it! So, please keep in mind that 
LibreOffice is not a PDF editor.  

Otherwise, this is a known limitation of our pdfimport draw object filter:

see  tdf#101220   

When filter imported--reading the layout and converting to native SVM
objects--the embedded glyphs "subset" into a PDF receive replacement font(s)
within LibreOffice. This  is a practical mater as most PDF do not embed the
*full* font files needed to be able to "edit" a PDF.  Rather, the embedded
*subset* is just those glyphs composing the PDF--again not a problem as
LibreOffice is not a PDF "editor".

While not using the subset glyphs is potentially a filter implementation
issue--more likely it is internal to our font handling which requires
Unicode based fonts--but as most PDF is generated with glyphs assigned to
PUA and legacy "Adobe" code table mappings replacment font handling is
necessary.

Currently for PDFs that fully embed fonts, LibreOffice will not "install"
those fonts. Meaning it is incumbent on the user to ensure they review the
fonts composing a PDF and obtain them for use--or work with LibreOffice's
font substitution dialog to assign a metric equivalent replacement. 

Even then there can be font naming issues--the font name extracted from PDF
does not match the font name on system--so fallback occurs even though the
font is present. Use of the font-replacment dialog is necessary.

For high fidelity rendering of PDF,  the "new" ipdf filter uses pdfium (a
FOSS Google Chrome project) to render PDF to bitmap image on document
canvas.  That filter is evolving, to provide insertion of multi-page PDF.
And,  to improve the "break" action to bring improved fidelity to the
resulting text strings and eventually skia based draw objects--right now it
is a work in progress and font handling on break is a shambles.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Preparing a Manuscript

[V Stuart Foote]

Set up a template document holding the styles you need to apply to the
various pieces of your manuscript. Then adjusting one of the styles can be
modified and applied to the entire manuscript.

See the Byfield book --  http://designingwithlibreoffice.com it is pretty
comprehensive, and you'll get the idea of working with templates and styles
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Force documents to open with my default font color

[V Stuart Foote]

Simply done from Tools -> Options -> Application Colors

Change the "Font Color" swatch from Automatic to the color you prefer. You
can pick the preexisting palette or use the Custom color dialog. Choice will
be written to your LO user profile.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: I need some comments on this color palette extension

[V Stuart Foote]

Tim, *

krackedpress wrote
> ...
> Thanks.  Look at the "tonal" palette that came with the current 6.2.0.3 
> version.  Those empty spaces look weird, and reads weird when you mouse 
> over them.
> ...

No that is intentional, result of work on  tdf#80196
   the empty out
of gamut (sRGB) cells are placeholders for specific graytone saturations and
the swatches are held in correct relationship in our "new" 12 column color
picker.

Details are in the linked BZ issue.

Stuart




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[libreoffice-users] Re: I need some comments on this color palette extension

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krackedpress wrote
> I did not know you could split the listed colors so it makes a space 
> between the end of the LO colors and the start of the Resene colors. 
> ...
> 
> So how do you add the "extra lines"?
> 
> ...

Any 'text' editor, e.g. gvim or notepad++ on Windows, and insert a return.
Be sure to place it  the between the closing and opening bracket for the
stanza and not to clobber anything.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: I need some comments on this color palette extension

[V Stuart Foote]

krackedpress wrote
> I finally looked into creating the OXT file[s] for my color palettes SOC 
> files.
> 
> I would like some users to install it and see if it works with your
> systems.
> 
> ...

Hi Tim,

Testing on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit en-US with
Version: 6.1.4.2 (x64)
Build ID: 9d0f32d1f0b509096fd65e0d4bec26ddd1938fd3
CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0; UI render: GL; 
Locale: en-US (en_US); Calc: group threaded

The OXT loads without issue and the extension including the plain text XML
.soc file is dropped into the uno_packages for the current user %APPDATA

Extension installs for current user, no apparent way to adjust to install
for all users.

Removes without issue , and a cache cleanup after restart deletes the entry
in the uno_packages directory.

The .SOC file can be copied, and continues to work, to the default palette
directory in the install directory, e.g. C:\Program
Files\LibreOFfice\share\palette

The full palette loads into Draw's Color Bar once it has been set as in the
color picker run in another module. 

The XML looks fine, but I would probably split line #14 to get that block of
LO colors onto their own lines.  With ~1400 colors, the extra lines are no
big deal but it improves readability of the color table.

All in all, looks to be a functional extension, if overwhelming.

Stuart




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[libreoffice-users] Re: How to actually find something with Find in Calc?

[V Stuart Foote]

Knew this had come up, with open BZ issues to correct:

tdf#102506   
... add Expert configuration option to set search for cell Values in stead
of Formulas

tdf#102615   
... Have Find Bar (Ctrl+F) and Find & Replace (Ctrl+H) search Values by
default

Think issue was to not change defaults until they could be recorded to user
profile--UI or Expert Configuration

At the moment with the OpenGrok git reindex running for CORE I'm unable to
figure out what "Formatted Display" checkbox does.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: How to actually find something with Find in Calc?

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V Stuart Foote wrote
> Hmm, that's weird because it works  on Windows builds (6.1.4.2 and current
> 6.3.0 master)--finding against values, not formulas--when "Formatted
> Display" is checked enabled.
> 
> OS dependent somehow?

Bah, never-mind. Once I plugged in some formulas that calculate a
result--those results are *not* found on search from the Find toolbar. And
if the search string is a part of the formula it is found.

E.g.  cell value entry of 31.5, a fomula entry of =31.5*2 and a formula
entry of =63/2

The first two are found on search, the third is not.  The "Formatted
Display" checkbox has no affect.

Windows 6.1.4.2 and master 6.3.0



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[libreoffice-users] Re: How to actually find something with Find in Calc?

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drew-gmail wrote
> Well, just to be clear - tried this with the example spreadsheet here with
> version 6.0.7 and 5.4.7 and using FIND does not do what the original
> poster
> is looking for. It seems the only way to find all of those values is by
> using FIND & REPLACE.
> 
> Now I'm not sure what 'FORMATTED DISPLAY' actually does.

Hmm, that's weird because it works  on Windows builds (6.1.4.2 and current
6.3.0 master)--finding against values, not formulas--when "Formatted
Display" is checked enabled.

OS dependent somehow?



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[libreoffice-users] Re: How to actually find something with Find in Calc?

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@Johnny,

Unless I am really misunderstanding, the "Formatted Display" check box will
shift search results to match against the *values* as formatted to cell.   A
generalized implementation of the Find & Replace dialog's "Search in"
listbox selection.

Should give you your find results via the Find toolbar.





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[libreoffice-users] Re: edit autocorrection options

[V Stuart Foote]

The correction in the Replace table is ".*(C)" replaced with "©"

Meaning just an upper case (C) and not a lower case (c) will trigger the
replacement.

As noted simply delete the replacement stanza to remove the behavior.
Recreate it (or modify as needed) to restore.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Adding keyboard shortcut

[V Stuart Foote]

Rich Shepard wrote
>> The *delete* you want is assigned in LibreOffice via the "Backspace"
>> function, aka a *rubout*.
> 
>Not quite. The backspace key deletes the character to the left of the
> cursor's position while the Del key deletes the character to the right of
> the cursor's position. I want to make ctrl-d function like the Del key.

Yes sorry, that is correct. They are different deletions. The "Delete"
performs what is also called a "forward delete".
Have looked at the project source code.  The forward delete action is among
a class of actions directly implemented in the edit shell and assigned to
the keyboard (symkey) for the Delete key.

It is not  available to assign to additional Keyboard shortcut or menu
entry.

Doing so would require creation of an UNO commond to perform the deletion,
that would be available for use in UI customization.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Adding keyboard shortcut

[V Stuart Foote]

Rich Shepard wrote
> I want to add the Delete action to ctrl-d, preferably in all components
> but most importantly in Writer. When I use Tools -> Customize -> Keyboard
> there is no 'delete' action available to assign to ctrl-d. There are
> abundant
> delete-
> 
>  actions, but not the same action as produced by the Del
> key.
> 
>Please show me how I can make ctrl-d act the same as Del.

The *delete* you want is assigned in LibreOffice via the "Backspace"
function, aka a *rubout*.

In Tools -> Customize: Keyboard tab,  select the Ctrl+d key--then search in
the Functions field for "backspace", then click on Modify.  The Ctrl+D key
will drop double underline and take on Backspace.  Both it and the Backspace
key will now show that function.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: insert unicode char in writer

[V Stuart Foote]

Brian Barker wrote
> ... If your characters are sufficiently 
> unusual, it is just possible that any receiving system may not have a 
> font that includes them. This is where PDFs come in, since they are 
> different, incorporating subsets of required fonts. That's one of the 
> facets that makes them "P" (for "Portable").

Exactly, but would caution that while LibreOffice filter handling of PDF is
now *very* good when "inserting" a PDF as an image (it is pdfium based and
will use the embedded fonts correctly to render the PDF as image) but it
will perform exactly the same font substitution and fallback when the PDF is
filter imported and opened in Draw (default) or  Calc, Writer, or Impress.

LibreOffice's hybrid-PDF solves much of this, but folks should understand
that LibreOffice is not and can *never* be a PDF editor.

Stuart



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[libreoffice-users] Re: insert special characters

[V Stuart Foote]

Thomas Blasejewicz-3 wrote
>> Is that Alt+I, P?
> It is Alt+P.
> Since I do not recall having set this shortcut key, I believe it is the 
> default setting.

No, it is not a default "Short-cut" and never has been, rather it is an
algorithm assigned "accelerator" generated for the Insert menu--it will vary
based on locale.

So, here the accelerator would be  -> I  ->P,  for S_p_ecial Character,
and --accelerators have different scope than shortcuts, applying only
to the menu where shown.

However, you can set a Shortcut for +P (or any other unassigned key)
from the Tools -> Customize dialog. 

You would assign  a Keyboard shortcut against the "Symbol" function to
directly launch the Special Character dialog.  

At the 6.0 release the dialog includes a bar with recently used glyphs and
favorites.

At the 6.1 release the standard toolbar includes a hidden split button
Special Character popup for easy glyph reuse, you can show that. And the
split button will become the default for the 6.2 release. 




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Screen Readers and File Formats (was: How many of you deal with the Linux Users Group [Facebook]?)

[V Stuart Foote]

zahra a wrote
> hi.
> can someone please tell me that how can i use entire document in
> libreoffice?
> i wish that hear all of my documents, not only one line or one
> paragraph and use keyboard to continue reading.
> i use nvda screen reader on windows xp.

You can not and that is a well know issue with the accessible tree structure
exposed in LibreOffice  [1][2].  

It also affects the ORCA screen reader for Linux based users.

=-ref-=
[1]  tdf#91739   
[2]  nvda#4119   




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Call for testers - automatic migration of embedded hsqldb Base files to embedded Firebird Base files

[V Stuart Foote]

Alex Thurgood wrote
> If the back-out is complete, i.e. master has returned to the previous
> status quo, this is unfortunate for those of us who would like to test
> whether the migration works and report those issues to bugzilla...

The back-out is not complete--and LO base is actually broken judging from
last nights tinderbox build [1]. Seems like the Firebird driver support is
not being found to drive the migration which is still active.  Believe devs
are going to have to readjust Firebird to allow us to get back to testing
conversion--including new code to "offer" to do the conversion.


> Can one still test the automatic migration or not ?

At the moment seems not. 
=-ref-=

[1] Version: 6.1.0.0.alpha0+ (x64)
Build ID: 55e84652ae84bd2374462ee19afd359a8cc90b95
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0; UI render: GL; 
TinderBox: Win-x86_64@42, Branch:master, Time: 2018-04-13_05:08:28
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Call for testers - automatic migration of embedded hsqldb Base files to embedded Firebird Base files

[V Stuart Foote]

Italo Vignoli-5 wrote
> ...
> 
> So, any "radical" deprecation of features should be evaluated not only
> in technical terms, but also in marketing/communication terms. We cannot
> get rid of a feature without giving users a reasonable amount of time to
> migrate their data (and the fact that they are embedded in the zipped
> file is not a solution for most users, who are not even aware that files
> are zipped folders which include all document components).

Covered at the weekly ESC meeting [1]. With some discussion in gerrit where
the commit was backed out [2], and legacy HSQLDB support restored. Seems
conversion to Firebird would become optional at 6.1, and new Base data
likely being the Firebird engine.

 As of this evenings builds of master the FB3 driver is back to
experimental, so Tamás' request for Firebird data testing in Base is on hold
as this gets sorted.

=-ref-=
[1]
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-minutes-of-ESC-call-td4237769.html
[2]  https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/52731/





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[libreoffice-users] Re: Software Exception error on Windows 7 with Libreoffice 6.0.2

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Tanstaafl wrote
> ...
> The only option currently is to not run the Quickstarter. I'm wondering
> now just how much faster it allows Libreoffice to start and if it worth
> it to continue enabling it at all.

Not only not worth enabling, but best to perform a custom installation and
to not install it.  It has been removed from the Linux builds a LibreOffice
6.0

Microsoft dropped OSA at 2003 build of its Office products, and at Windows 7
they introduced the whole Jump List infrastructure with Jump List pinning to
Start Menu and Taskbar--elminating any advantage to enabling the
Quickstarter instance (and of pre loading a soffice.bin). 

In reality LibreOffice has had no need of it for Windows 7 onward--and as
you've experienced it can cause issues.

This reminded me to go ahead and poke the UX community with  tdf#116142 --
Remove Quickstarter from Windows builds
   which would
finally see this "anti-feature" go away.
  




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Writer: how to disable table's tool tips

[V Stuart Foote]

Just hit  to immediately dismiss the tool-tip. Otherwise the tip will
appear for 4 seconds.

We used to be able to control how long to wait (with mouse over action)
before displaying the tool-tip, but that looks a little muddled now in
source, and seems to default to 1 second.

And for Accessibility we can extend the length of time the tool-tip is
visible, from default 4-99 seconds.  Set in Expert Configuration.

The timer is global, so no way to isolate the behavior in Tables.  Again,
just  to dismiss the tool-tip.



 



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Version 6 and Support for Windows XP

[V Stuart Foote]

cpgeevan wrote
> Earlier, I recall reading that from Version 6, there will be no support
> for
> the Windows XP (deprecated by Microsoft). However, the release notes for
> V-6
> seems to imply that LibreOffice 6 can be installed on Windows-XP. Is that
> correct?

No, the Windows MSI installer will abort on XP or Vista systems. The 6.0
release notes [1]  clearly state:

Windows

Removed support for Windows XP and Windows Vista. The minimum supported
Windows version is now Windows 7 SP1.

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[1]  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/6.0#Windows




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Fixing 5.0 appearance

[V Stuart Foote]

Dave Barton-3 wrote
> On 22.12.2017 03:07, Virgil Arrington wrote:
> ...
> Even better if the day ever comes when we can have styles list undocked
> from the sidebar, in the same way as Navigator.

That is  tdf#85905
   /Allow
undocking of Sidebar decks/, which would allow each of type of Sidebar deck
to be detached and handled in its own frame (docked or undocked).

Meanwhile, check out the "new" View -> Toolbars -> Formatting (Styles)
toolbar as a "styles" focused alternative to the default Formatting toolbar.
   



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Fixing 5.0 appearance

[V Stuart Foote]

There was never a "Styles" toolbar--just the "Formatting" toolbar which
remains and can be undocked and floating.

The "Styles and Formatting" dialog has been pinned into the Sidebar deck
where it is one of numerous content panels accessed via a Tab Bar.  The
Sidebar deck can be undocked and floating, or docked to either side of the
UI. Either case you can select the Styles and Formatting content panel--and
at the 6.0.0 beta2 build the selected Sidebar deck will reopen when the
module opens.

Unfortunately through 5.4.4 the Sidebar deck will open to the Properties
content panels, but toolbars and Sidebar deck will be as placed.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Why are the people who answer users' questions are not getting counted?

[V Stuart Foote]

Mike, 

this is all yours ;-)

Stuart

From: Tim-L 
Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 9:56 AM
To: LibreO - Users Global
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Why are the people who answer users' questions are 
not getting counted?


On the "Projects" list, there is a link to the claiming of badges.

One thing I saw was the fact that people who help others in this list is
not counted for claiming badges. I do not use "Ask LibreOffice", yet,
that is the only place to help users if you want to claim a badge. As I
said, I do not use Ask LibreOffice, just the email list service. There
are a lot people here that help users.  I do not know how many of these
users are answering these questions over the ones who answering on Ask
LibreOffice.

If only the people using Ask LibreOffice get recognized for helping
others, it seems to me that people who help others on this list are not
counted as helping others.  Are these lists no longer the place to help
users and will be dropped soon? That is the only way I can get my head
around the fact that the helpers are not counted in the "badge page"
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Badges/2017-11

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Office 5.4

[V Stuart Foote]

You don't mention the OS or desktop you are working with. But if you are on
Windows, open the Task Manager -> Details and "end process tree" for each
instance of "soffice.bin".  If that does not clear--then repeat and use the
Help -> "Restart in Safe mode" dialog to clear your user profile (or do it
manually in the AppData/Roaming directory).




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[libreoffice-users] Re: ">Tools >Options >LivreOffice >Advanced >Open Expert Configuration

[V Stuart Foote]

Toki wrote
> ... is there anything that describes:
> # the configuration options;
> # what that option does;
> # acceptable values for the option;
> # the effect of each acceptable value;
> 
> For each item listed at ">Tools >Options >LibreOffice >Advanced >Open
> Expert Configuration"
> 
> If so, what documentation, etc am I looking for, and where can it be
> found?

Nope, why it takes an expert   ;-)

You pretty much must as you said try:

> * Reading the source code, and translating that into English;
> * Playing with the options, selecting randomly selecting values, and
> hoping I can pickup the effects;

Oh, and take notes, or you'll do it all again.  The majority of user
adjustable Expert Configuration stanzas are in *common.xcs* found here:

https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/officecfg/registry/schema/org/openoffice/Office

I find that sorting the Expert Configuration dialog by the Preference Name
field makes it easier to locate the corresponding source.  For some of the
more obscure  *value* settings (without comments in the .xcs) you have to
dig into the corresponding source.

As to the Help, this is all that has been done thus far for using the Expert
Configuration dialog:
https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Expert_Configuration
  

Or in the actual Help source, and a couple of the Help articles that explain
setting a value:
https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/help/source/text/shared/optionen/expertconfig.xhp

Disable Preview of styles on the Styles deck
https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/help/source/text/swriter/01/0514.xhp#50

Number of Undo steps
https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/help/source/text/shared/01/0201.xhp#47

MRU picklist size (and start center thumbnails) shown
https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/help/source/text/shared/01/0199.xhp#40

Documentation team is always happy for assistance, especially on a large
project like capturing all these would be.

Stuart



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[libreoffice-users] Re: automatic fractions

[V Stuart Foote]

The "conversion" is done in the AutoCorrect. From Tools -> AutoCorrect ->
AutoCorrect Options you can disable, or modify the  replacement table to add
the additional franctional forms, or remove them all.   Play with it a bit,
several ways to adjust.

A profile reset will restore defaults.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Install of 5.4.1 causes disappearance of text in LO Writer files

[V Stuart Foote]

LibreOffice Windows builds have ongoing issue with the change at LibreOffice
5.3 to more DirectWrite and Direct2D based font rendering.  tdf#112486
  . You can drop
back to 5.2.7 if functional for you.

Otherwise believe the issue you are having was resolved for most folks as
for  tdf#107166  
, with some _still_ requiring driver updates for their GPUs to correctly
render with DirectWrite.  

I expect you would benefit from driver update for the GMA 4500HD GPU as that
iGPU would probably not be capable of running LibreOffice in OpenGL mode. 
Unfortunately you would have to manually update the driver update as Lenovo
does not support it well.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: No icons in 5.4.1?

[V Stuart Foote]

Likely bug  tdf#108406
  

It has been corrected, but for now you'll need to select a different icon
theme from Tools -> Options -> View: Icon style drop list. The Helpimg icon
set is part of the help system and not a full icon set. Selecting it results
in labels only on the toolbars.
 



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[libreoffice-users] Re: the size has almost doubled

[V Stuart Foote]

TB24 for Android ARM build...

http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Android-ARM@24-Bytemark-Hosting/

Hmm, so builds through 2017-08-31 < 65MB, after 2017-09-01 > 124MB 

Nothing jumped out in looking at the build logs. But then, they are debug
builds

Tor, Kendy?



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[libreoffice-users] Re: ZoomText screenreader problem

[V Stuart Foote]

Both OpenOffice 4.1 and LibreOffice 4.3 onward expose accessible events in
IAccessible2 based assistive technology.

OpenOffice at ia2 1.2 and LibreOffice at ia2 1.3, neither implements MS UIA
so depending on reading support of ZoomText Magnifier/Reader for
IAccessible2 you may have minimal support.

The Java Access Bridge for Java Accessibility is not required.

As noted by Zarha, the NVAccess NVDA project is free and fully integrates
msaa/iaccessible2 API support into its screen reader.

Alternatively, the Linux GNOME project's ORCA and Magnifier are available in
that OS from various Linux distros. 

=-ref-=
http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/docs/html/




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Underlinng? easy. How do I overline?

[V Stuart Foote]

DavidBTeagueAt Comporium.net wrote
> Underlining is a common task in LO, and it is easy. Control U. But I 
> need to overline (also called overscore or overbar), some text, in my 
> case digits. Overlining is common in scientific fields, and I use it to 
> indicate a shift, a motion of the hand, on double bass music.
> 
> How do I do this? I'd like to have a font, not unlike the underline 
> font. (I hope I'm not missing something here.)

Two simple ways, results will vary by font.

A. this is artificial in that it does not follow the font designers intent,
but gives clean "calculated" overlines of various forms.
1) enter the text string
2) select what needs overline
3) context menu select "Character" dialog
4) in character dialog -> Font affects tab
5) "Overlining" drop list to select desired effect

B. this uses the font designers specification, OK for a symbol but does not
work well for words or sentences.
1) enter the text string
2) advance cursor over each character and enter +X
3) character will convert to its Unicode point, e.g. A -> U+0040,  a ->
U+0060
4) append the Unicode combining glyph to each character;  i.e. for COMBINING
OVERLINE U+0305, or COMBINING DOUBLE OVERLINE U+033F, or COMBINING DOUBLE
MACRON U+035e, or other from the Unicode block 0300-036F
5) merge the characters with another +X at the end of each Unicode
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Writer-Web editing - "a:hover" style removed on saving

[V Stuart Foote]

Tim,

Have a look at BlueFish editor project, I've found it to be a solid
replacement for Nvu/Kompozer

http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html

Stuart



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[libreoffice-users] Re: libreoffice 5.3.5.2 display issue

[V Stuart Foote]

A know issue of refactoring line height calculations [1] for tdf#55469.  

Open in BZ as  tdf#106111
   and related 
tdf#107249   
and  tdf#108891  
.

Needs some developer attention to resolve.

=-ref-=
[1]
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=34d7602954d4483b3bc9db700e7df2c15348947a





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[libreoffice-users] Re: Font rendering

[V Stuart Foote]

They should be stable now--our calculation of line heights for Windows builds
was changed to bring it in line with Linux and MacOS with  tdf#55469
   for the 5.3.0
release.

There is some potential this may still need to be tweaked but I believe it
is intended to remain as it is now.  The issue some folks are having is with
differing font metrics of fonts installed to OS or even between
distributions. 

But if the font metrics are the same--the line spacing will remain be the
same across

A few BZ issues suggest it has been an issue for some time and may not
exactly be correct now... but main concern should be the quality/consistency
of your fonts.

=-ref-=
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109235
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92502
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[libreoffice-users] Re: help note icons broken

[V Stuart Foote]

Confirmed but just 5.3.4.2 -> 5.3.5.2

The 5.3.4 and earlier builds placed the helpimg into the share/config 
.zip /res directory

And, at 5.4.0.3 the directory is present in the
share/config/images_helpimg.zip /media/helpimg where it is supposed to be
for the rework of the off-line help system. 

Filed as  tdf#98
  



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Releases

[V Stuart Foote]

krackedpress wrote
> "Master Branch"?
> This is the first time I heard of a master branch.  I know of "still", 
> "fresh", and "developer's" versions, but not "master".

Master is the current development git code base at each branch corresponding
to a release cycle the source tree is split/replicated.

 

Project uses tinderbox for test builds, this is list of current TBs building
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Releases

[V Stuart Foote]

krackedpress wrote
> ...
> 
> It would be nice to have the "still" description and link above that of 
> the "fresh" download and description.  That way, the "suitable for all 
> users" version is the first choice and the "recommended for technology 
> enthusiasts" listing would be second.  To me, that indicates the fact 
> that we feel it is "more important" to keep a version that all users can 
> use - from individuals to enterprises - and not stress the "enthusiasts" 
> version.  For me, I feel that the way it is shows LO/TDF is not for 
> businesses since you eye gravitates to the big boxed "tester version" 
> and you could almost overlook the link for the "business version link".
> 
> If we really want to promote LibreOffice as a office suite for 
> professionals, we need to have is shown first in the download page - 
> before any other version.  Maybe in the drop down menu, on the startup 
> page, could say "Business Version - Still" and then "Technology 
> Enthusiasts version - Fresh".  That will easily show the visitors which 
> version is for them.

That is a topic for the marketing folks, but I am comfortable saying no one
on the ESC sees it that way. 

For project health we need more users on the Fresh, or even the master
branch. BZ is clogged with newly spun issues against branches already EOL,
majority of them already fixed and stock QA triage response is going to be
test with a current build. Project development simply moves on.

Rather we don't get to stable status for builds without testing--testing
requires use of the latest branch with patches pushed back as uncovered and
where feasible.  For example OpenGL support, and HarfBuzz with DirectWrite
based font rendering on Windows is really only just becoming stable at the
5.4.0 release--the 5.3 branch remains wonky depending on GPU/driver
combinations. 

Issues would likely have been uncovered sooner if more folks had made the
effort to test against master in addition to Fresh builds. Installation in
parallel is trivial, so for folks invested in the project it is a low
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Unwanted Alternative Image Names

[V Stuart Foote]

There is another facet of this that is not being considered.  Accessible
documents.  That is for accessibility and support of Assistive Technology
tools we are required to provide the Alternate text and titles. 

Believe the default filters (import and export) are configured to facilitate
that. Additionally, within the UI imposing name for the images/objects is
displayed in the Navigator GUI--unnamed images/objects are not shown by
default.

Some coverage in BZ issues

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39558

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96355

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101193




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Releases

[V Stuart Foote]

krackedpress wrote
> ...
> Nowhere does it say what the 5.2.7 version is.
> ...
> 
> CAN this be changed?

It remains in the release notes as indicated and reads: "The mature "still"
version of LibreOffice, recommended for enterprises. As such, the version is
stable and is suitable for all users. Detailed release notes can be accessed
from the link below."

Believe it will change on both the download page and the release-notes when
5.4.0 is released, and 5.3.5 becomes the Still branch. For now the page is
in transition as the 5.2 branch is officially EOL.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Releases

[V Stuart Foote]

All releases are "stable".

5.3.4 is the latest "Fresh" release, to be followed with 5.3.5 which is in
pre-release.

5.2.7 is the latest "Still" release, when 5.4.0 is released the 5.2 branch
will be EOL for active project development.  5.4.0 will become the "Fresh"
release and 5.3.5 will become the "Still" release.

Current status is available from the release notes page here:

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes

The time based release plan provides scheduling:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan



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[libreoffice-users] Re: installing 64 bit Libreoffice

[V Stuart Foote]

DavidBTeagueAt Comporium.net wrote
> ...
> My question is, was it necessary to remove the 32 bit version? I found 
> no cautions about  upgrading a 32 bit version with a 64 bit version in 
> the notes.
> ...

You did it correctly.

Even though the install on 64-bit Windows will go to different locations, 
C:\Program Files (x86)\LibreOffice 5 for 32-bit vs. C:\Program
Files\LibreOffice 5 for 64-bit installs, with different HKEY branches in the
Windows registry--WOW6432node for the 32-bit--they will conflict. 
Especially because the default install includes setup of the Quickstarter.

They can be made to coexist (including /a "Administrative" install as
commonly needed for our QA work) but for the average user a "clean install"
when shifting from 32-bit to 64-bit is the best practice.  The installer
will not handle it for you in any sense.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: How to reverse a date format

[V Stuart Foote]

Wade Smart wrote
> This spread sheet has several columns of dates
> written MM/DD/. I need to reverse it to
> /MM/DD... 

You can not change the internal format of the dates.

If they are columns of Dates in an ODF spreadsheet they do not need to be
changed--actually can not be changed--rather you just need to change their
display format. Select the column, the Format -> Cells  and in the dialog
select Date and a format you need. The -MM-DD is predefined. Or you can
add a format code to use an alternate separator.

If the file is CSV, set it as date during import and set the display format
needed.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Input required -- font selection in the Math component

[V Stuart Foote]

John Pye wrote
>>>  * Did you notice that the default for LibreOffice is now to have
>>>lower-case Greek letters in non-italics, even though basically every
>>>academic publication you'll ever see has lower-case greek letters in
>>>italics, and this can only be changed to 'normal' behaviour using a
>>>hidden 'advanced' setting?
>>
>> Now there are two sets, one upright and one italic, so that you can 
>> write %beta and %ibeta and %BETA and %iBETA.
>>
>> There exists an advanced setting GreekCharStyle with values 0,1 or 2.
>> Value 0 means: Write Greek symbols literal, those from set "Greek" 
>> upright, those from set "iGreek" in italic.
>> Value 1 means: Write all Greek symbols in italic
>> Value 2 means: Write large characters of set "Greek" upright and all 
>> others italic.
>> You need to restart LibreOffice after changing the value.
>>
>> You can of cause force upright always with command nitalic, and force 
>> italic with command italic.
> 
> The default should be setting 2, consistent with normal publishing 
> practice. But on new installs, last time I checked, the default was 
> still 0 with is a poor choice for the default.

Mode 2 for italic lower case greek symbols has been set as the default, 
tdf#105483   
was resolved for 5.4 with
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=68155a68578a0f4066c1c566c2d378bbae05c216
 
but the patch to use value 2 by default was rejected for backport to the 5.3
release.

Until moving to a 5.4 build, users so inclined can set the "GreekCharStyle"
stanza with a simple search/edit in expert configuration.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: [Enhancement] writer: Footnote / Endnote Styles according to standards

[V Stuart Foote]

Johnathan,


toki wrote
> On 05/24/2017 02:42 PM, V Stuart Foote w
> 
>> Sorry, but the simple truth is that developing and maintaining just a few
>> of
>> the diverse range of defined styles is out of scope for LibreOffice
> 
> A Citation Style Language aware extension could, in theory, support all
> 8,000+ formatting styles that are in the CitationStyle.org repository,
> which utilises a CC-BY-SA 3.0 (unported) license.
> 
>>but is fully in scope for projects like Zotero and Mendeley--or the
commercial
> 
> Those two programs use Citation Style Language for bibliographic
> formatting.

Yes and both already offer fully functional _extensions_ to LibreOffice  :-)


> #
> 
> The simplest approach to rewriting the Bibliographic Component, is to
> abolish the one database for all citations approach that is currently
> used. Instead, have one database for every medium and format that is
> cited. This is to cover oddities...

That would be the framework to which I refer ;-)   

But we were not talking specifically about rewriting the Bibliographic
Component and not clear at all that alone is the best way to proceed in
supporting Citation Styles as it gets rather far into core.   Zotero and
Mendeley both hold the data external to the ODF document and depend on
fields and paragraph styles.

Stuart



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[libreoffice-users] Re: [Enhancement] writer: Footnote / Endnote Styles according to standards

[V Stuart Foote]

Ramon, *

RamonTavarez wrote
> ... we would be enhancing the LibreOffice capabilities, ...
> 
> About the extension:  What does not attract me it is that  the extension
> compels me to use another software out of LibO, and I believe that LibO is
> too good to need a third party to carry out a task as simple as the format
> to an information which we have in a database made with LibO.

Sorry, but the simple truth is that developing and maintaining just a few of
the diverse range of defined styles is out of scope for LibreOffice--but is
fully in scope for projects like Zotero and Mendeley--or the commercial
EndNote product.

Instead LibreOffice provides just the authoring framework for documents in
ODF--to the extent that framework can be extended to support industry
standards CSL (FOSS)  or ENS (EndNote) we should. 

Improving that framework to support schemes for fielded citation while
writing--supporting parenthetical citation, footnotes, endnotes, and
bibliograhy compliant with styles described in CSL or ENS is where our
development efforts should concentrate. Including collaboration with the
developers of the extensions providing the capability--but it should not be
core to the project.

Stuart



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[libreoffice-users] Re: [Enhancement] writer: Footnote / Endnote Styles according to standards

[V Stuart Foote]

Ramon, *

Using the existing Bibliography sample data base provides considerable
function already, based on Harvard style as I understand. 

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/2/23/WG4212-TOCsIndexesBiblios.pdf
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Referencing_Systems_in_LibreOffice

And frankly this is already well handled by 3rd Party extension--I'm a fan
of Zotero standalone (Windows) and cross-platform (via Firefox) . The
LibreOffice plugin(s) allows application of any .CSL and effective styling
of the parenthtical, footnote, endnote and bibliography. And have not used
it recently but the Mendely project is equally functional.

But always room to improve: have  open BZ enhancment for this in  tdf#94418
   and duplicate 
tdf#95315   .

Preliminary UX/Design team discussion ~Sep 2015 in
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IQ2_dFlWodb3NI9VFy1l4_ZmKpJgoyATYvOmB-0yUcY/edit

As to doing it fully ourselves (and maintaining it), IMHO we should
concentrate on providing  the style framework for those 3rd party projects
implementing the full set of .CSL--e.g. Zotero or Mendely rather than
struggle to provide just the few major styles.

http://citationstyles.org/
https://www.zotero.org/styles

Stuart






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[libreoffice-users] Re: Impress can't handle eps images

[V Stuart Foote]

Understand the appeal for not having to convert, but until a built-in
LibreOffice implementation-- tdf#67464
  --not dependent
on Ghostscript, ImageMagick, or pstoedit external packages is tackled--its
conversion or lousy quality.

But for starters, be sure the eps you are using does not have a preview
(TIFF or BMP), strip it out.  That forces a full resolution rendering to the
LO document canvas and on export to PDF.

Or better do a conversion to SVG (or other canvas, PNG if you're OK with
raster) . 

Personally, I prefer a combination of Ghostscript's "ps2pdf" utility:

   ps2pdf -dEPSCrop in.eps out.pdf

and Poppler's (from poppler-utils) "pdftocairo" utility:

   pdftocairo -svg out.pdf out.svg







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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Writer - special characters

[V Stuart Foote]

Dave-3 wrote
> That's interesting. If I try every possible combination of this method
> with Writer under Win 7, all I get is a lower case x. It this something
> peculiar to Linux or OSX?

Added for the 5.1.0 release. It works with all OS, see  tdf#73691
  , with some
adjustments for locale.

Just verified the +x  functions  as intended on Windows 7 sp1  (a Right
Alt key, will end up as AltGr on some keyboard mappings for some locals, but
the l-Alt should always work).

Try with a reset user profile.



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