Hi Tom,
Well, I'm translating it to brazilian portuguese. I know that there is an
libreoffice site available for Brazil, but since my time is really limited,
I'd rather to it in my pace than on any time shedule. Anyway, thanks for the
tip, I'll have a look at this international list and find
Hi :)
The international translator's mailing list is just starting to experiment
with translating the Published Guides, such as the Base Handbook, using
OmegaT.
OmegaT helps in many ways but just one of them is that it seems to track
(or identify) what has changed in a newer release of the same
Hi :)
The main man to chat with about OmegaT is Milos errr, i dunno his surname!
:( He has done a huge amount of work with them to set-up something for
LibreOffice.
It is good that you started translating by starting on the Base Handbook.
It means you really can work at your own pace because i
Hi Tom,
just for your information, the german Base manual is for version 4.4 of LO, in
other words hot new. Well at least is what is claimed on their table where
they list all manuals they have for Base (from 3.5 to 4.4). And best of all it
is complete (up to chapter 11 and there are also two
Hi :)
Yes, the German version is the original. There has been some very brief
discussion about whether all the different example databases are really
necessary or if some could be left out or if they could be consolidated or
something. It might be better to have a separate document with tons of
I guess Andreas is right in all his observations. I'll never expected LO or
similars to be an top Databse development front end (although if it would
reach filemakers level would be nice). What I expect, as a non IT person, from
such kind of platform, is to help me out to delevelop relative
Am 05.03.2015 um 18:36 schrieb SOS:
1. I cannot use
2. LO Base is missing options
LibreOffice Base is not a database development platform. It is hardly
more than a bridge between databases and office documents. Yes, there is
a limited set of form controls and yes, it comes with macro
Am 06.03.2015 um 16:06 schrieb Jaroslaw Staniek:
On 5 March 2015 at 17:32, SOS s...@pmg.be wrote:
Stefan ,
Macro's can live in any document so also in a Standalone form , better
is to place your macro's in the LO application, who makes is fast more easy
to Update and distribute for several
On 6 March 2015 at 19:32, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:
Am 06.03.2015 um 16:06 schrieb Jaroslaw Staniek:
On 5 March 2015 at 17:32, SOS s...@pmg.be wrote:
Stefan ,
Macro's can live in any document so also in a Standalone form , better
is to place your macro's in the LO
Tom, It is too obvious that you never use LibreOffice Base.
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Am 05.03.2015 um 19:38 schrieb Andreas Säger:
Am 05.03.2015 um 16:46 schrieb Stefan Geith:
Am 05.03.2015 um 16:21 schrieb Peter Goggin:
Macros are available from within LibreBase forms. I use them for
switching between forms etc,
Are Macros also available, if the form is saved as a
Regarding the interface to the big irons:
Base can not handle arrays field types.
Base can not handle binary field types. It crashes (possibly losing the
embedded database) when you load a form with many records having
pictures (normal size as in typical photos).
Form grids become unusable when
Just want to say this thread has been so helpful and enlightening, I have
learned a lot about base, mysql and databases.
Tom, thanks for all your input!
Howard
On 5 Mar 2015 21:29, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi :)
I have been told, off-list, that i am quite wrong about what i have
Hello again,
As was mentioned in a reply to one of my remarks: Yes, there are a
number of things missing in the
LO-Front end to databases: Just ONE little thing eg.: When selecting
tuples using the standard filter,
the selection criteria (max 3 in number) are too restricted.
Like -- eg. if I
Am 05.03.2015 um 16:46 schrieb Stefan Geith:
Am 05.03.2015 um 16:21 schrieb Peter Goggin:
Macros are available from within LibreBase forms. I use them for
switching between forms etc,
Are Macros also available, if the form is saved as a *standalone form* ?
I've heard, that not...
Ditto!!!
+1
It has cemented the decision I took last year to move to Base+MySQL -
which works very well indeed!!
IanW
Pretoria RSA
On 03/05/2015 04:08 PM, HBarr wrote:
Just want to say this thread has been so helpful and enlightening, I have
learned a lot about base, mysql and databases.
Hi :)
I have been told, off-list, that i am quite wrong about what i have been
saying about Base.
I'm not clear exactly which bits of what i have said are wrong. Almost all
of what i said was things i had picked-up from experts on this mailing list
or discussions elsewhere, rather than from my
Hi :)
Yeh, in attempting to clarify i did add an extra confusion! Sorry! The
HsqlDb version 1.8 is only a problem when using the internal version in
Base. However Base doesn't give you much choice about what to use as the
internal back-end. Just the heavily tweaked and broken version of 1.8.
Hello Noel,
Interesting! I will have a look at H2. The only issue for me at the moment
is that my provider has not got it installed and therefore I cannot use it.
Regards from Salzburg
Heinz
Marion Noel Lodge schrieb:
Hi Heinrich,
I've been reluctant to join this discussion, but you comment
Hi :)
I think Noel ( Marion)'s good experience of H2 being sooo much better than
Base is purely down to them moving away from the internal back-end in
Base. The version of HsqlDb mentioned by Noel is the 1.8 which Andreas
identified as being the version used as the internal back-end in Base.
Hi :)
One point that may have become muddled in translation is that it is only
the front-end that needs to be copied, or re-created on multiple machines.
The stable back-end could be on a server so that everyone is using the same
data. As one person adds data everyone else would be able to see
Hello Tom...
Maybe I misunderstand your remark below, but...
My database has for years been on a WAN-accessed MySQL
server. This is only an issue resolved through DNS or the hosts file .
I haven't experienced any difficulties/problems either in defining the
database, loading or backing up data
On 4 March 2015 at 11:25, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi :)
One point that may have become muddled in translation is that it is only
the front-end that needs to be copied, or re-created on multiple machines.
The stable back-end could be on a server so that everyone is using the same
Am 04.03.2015 um 11:03 schrieb Tom Davies:
Hi :)
I think Noel ( Marion)'s good experience of H2 being sooo much better than
Base is purely down to them moving away from the internal back-end in
Base. The version of HsqlDb mentioned by Noel is the 1.8 which Andreas
identified as being the
Much of the e-mails on Base have focussed on negative aspects. It is
worth remembering that for moderate size data bases (a few thousand
records, a dozen tables) it is perfectly adequate. I have now converted
all of my data ase applications for MS Access to run on Base with its
internal data
Hi :)
I don't see this thread as having been entirely negative at all!
Base is pretty fantastic despite having so few devs and being the most
unpopular module/program to work on out of the whole suite. The devs who
are working on it are fantastic and heroic imo.
The only real problems are when
Hi :)
Oops!! Sorry for the rant!
Also the tpyos in the 5th paragraph! (4th from the end!). I should have
deleted some of it (or the whole email tbh) down to;
Base neatly avoids ALL that nightmare by allowing database-designers to use
Writer or Calc to create Reports or Forms so that people
Hi :)
I am not quite sure what level of co-operation you are asking for. There
is always a potential for more, of course.
At the moment, and hopefully on into the future, they are independent of
each other and each has their own advantages and peculiar quirks. They
gain the advantages of
Hi :)
+1
One advantage of Base is that it can connect to such a wide range of other
database programs. It is kinda the default way of using Base. MS Access
can be twisted into using an external database but it's not as easy to
set-up that way as Base.
Kexi and other front-ends can be used
Hello,
I am an old DB-User in the real sense of the word (I am over 70!).
In the 90ies I got into DB2 as a systems engineer at IBM. Then, around
the turn of the millenium, I set up a database for the administration of a
50-piece wind band, using Lotus-Approach (DBase...). It was fine
but I wanted
Am 03.03.2015 um 16:06 schrieb Peter Goggin:
Much of the e-mails on Base have focussed on negative aspects. It is
worth remembering that for moderate size data bases (a few thousand
records, a dozen tables) it is perfectly adequate. I have now converted
all of my data ase applications for MS
Hi Heinrich,
I've been reluctant to join this discussion, but you comment about the need
to have ... a stable, scalable interface to REAL databases (with sometimes
millions of DB-tuples) ..., has prompted me to say that I believe one such
database already exists - it is called H2. See -
Hi Tom,
Interesting. Given similar, huge challenges, would you see areas of
cooperation with Kexi?
On 3 March 2015 at 14:33, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi :)
+1
One advantage of Base is that it can connect to such a wide range of other
database programs. It is kinda the default
Hi Peter
Noted on your comments and others
I can confirm that using the embedded DB in Base is a disaster - I
battled with it for a couple of years until I found out about using an
external engine - I use MySQL and have had _NO_ problems, (except my own
finger problems!!) since then.
Andreas ,
i must strongly confirm your vision.
We must see Base as a connector and a front end for any possible
database server
We have 100 users, using LO as a front end to a MySQL server without
any problems to use the MySQL data in Writer and Calc.
The front end itself is writen with LO
Am 02.03.2015 um 21:23 schrieb Tom Davies:
Hi :)
Apparently another great database program to use as a back-end is
Postgresql. Some of the Postgresql people worked with the LibreOffice
people to make a really good connector and then got that connector into
LibreOffice main trunk.
This is
Hi everbody,
although I am not an data IT person, I've been a long time user of
openoffice/libreoffice. I'll allways wanted to use LO as an official front end
for an database; first of all because I do not know how to program html (even
with all those facilities we have today) and also I don't
Hi :)
The way Andreas describes Base's internal back-end makes a lot of sense out
of what i have always heard about the internal back-end functioning so
badly. Trying to read/write into a file inside a zip-file is often tricky
and i just hadn't thought about that wrt Base.
However, i was under
I have read with interest the emails on Base. I have always regarded
the data base component of Open Office, Libre office as the equivalent
to the datbase component of MS Access. I have 5 data bases, originally
run under windows and MS Access which I have converted to run under
Libre Base.
Just a short note: Base can connect to a MySql database using a connector.
I even think, knowing not much about Base, that an external database for
storage is a very good way to go...Am 02.03.2015 16:54 schrieb Peter Goggin
petergog...@bigpond.com:
I have read with interest the emails on Base.
Am 02.03.2015 um 19:33 schrieb Florian Reisinger:
Just a short note: Base can connect to a MySql database using a connector.
I even think, knowing not much about Base, that an external database for
storage is a very good way to go...Am 02.03.2015 16:54 schrieb Peter Goggin
Hi :)
Apparently another great database program to use as a back-end is
Postgresql. Some of the Postgresql people worked with the LibreOffice
people to make a really good connector and then got that connector into
LibreOffice main trunk.
So, Postgresql has an advantage over MySql in not needing
On Sun, 2015-03-01 at 22:23 +0100, Andreas Säger wrote:
Am 01.03.2015 um 22:01 schrieb Jay Lozier:
What is the current backend for Base?
I remember at one time is HSQL 1.8 but one could install a later
version.
Jay
When you create a new database document without Java
Am 01.03.2015 um 22:31 schrieb Jay Lozier:
I have not kept up with Base, I tend to use MariaDB/PostgreSQL directly;
not through the Base front end. I vaguely remember some chatter about
replacing HSQL with something else.
Replacing an excellent database engine with another excellent
Am 01.03.2015 um 22:01 schrieb Jay Lozier:
What is the current backend for Base?
I remember at one time is HSQL 1.8 but one could install a later
version.
Jay
When you create a new database document without Java support, then you
get a directory of flat dBase files handled by
On 03/01/2015 02:03 PM, Andreas Säger wrote:
Without Base you give up the capability to print serial letters and
labels from lists.The vast majority of Base users are Writer users
creating a serial letter or sheet of labels. These wizards generate
Base documents in the background. In 99% of
Sigh!
Each and every aspect of OpenOffice, LibreOffice, Java and Base in
particular:
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74t=69896
Linux distros do not install Base because most people do not understand
this drunken cousin of a component anyway. Linux users can install the
On Sun, 2015-03-01 at 20:03 +0100, Andreas Säger wrote:
Sigh!
Each and every aspect of OpenOffice, LibreOffice, Java and Base in
particular:
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74t=69896
Linux distros do not install Base because most people do not understand
this
2015-02-17 8:58 GMT+01:00 Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com:
At 19:09 16/02/2015 -0700, Dave Kidd wrote:
I do not see an option to select/unselect which components to install.
Here is what the Custom Setup screen looks like for me when I run the
installer.
At 19:09 16/02/2015 -0700, Dave Kidd wrote:
I do not see an option to select/unselect which components to
install. Here is what the Custom Setup screen looks like for me when
I run the installer.
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4140349/components.png
As you will see from that
pranzar wrote (Tuesday, February 17, 2015, 12:19:32 AM):
For those that have Base working it on Windows 7 64-bit: when you go
to the LibreOffice directory in Explorer - default is
C:\Program Files (x86)\LibreOffice 4\program
Are you able to launch Base from an executable? I only have
Hello Stefan, sorry, I missed your message.
I do not see an option to select/unselect which components to install.
Here is what the Custom Setup screen looks like for me when I run the
installer.
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4140349/components.png
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2015-02-17 6:41 GMT+01:00 Annette aman_ml...@gmx.com:
pranzar wrote (Tuesday, February 17, 2015, 12:19:32 AM):
For those that have Base working it on Windows 7 64-bit: when you go
to the LibreOffice directory in Explorer - default is
C:\Program Files (x86)\LibreOffice 4\program
Are
Hello everyone, thanks for the help.
I have both 64 and 32-bit versions of Java installed, but still nothing
happens, no matter which one I select.
For those that have Base working it on Windows 7 64-bit: when you go to the
LibreOffice directory in Explorer - default is
C:\Program Files
2015-02-16 13:22 GMT+01:00 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com:
Hi :)
Congrats!! Nicely done! :)
Yeh, that surprised me too. I had assumed it would work the same way as
the Windows installer 'should' do.
Congrats and regards from
Tom :)
On 16 February 2015 at 12:17, M Henri Day
2015-02-16 12:48 GMT+01:00 M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com:
2015-02-16 11:57 GMT+01:00 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com:
Hi :)
On Ubuntu i have to install Base separately. I'm not sure what happened
when i installed the official one from the LibreOffice website. Can't
quite remember that far
Hi :)
Congrats!! Nicely done! :)
Yeh, that surprised me too. I had assumed it would work the same way as
the Windows installer 'should' do.
Congrats and regards from
Tom :)
On 16 February 2015 at 12:17, M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com wrote:
2015-02-16 12:48 GMT+01:00 M Henri Day
Hi :)
On Ubuntu i have to install Base separately. I'm not sure what happened
when i installed the official one from the LibreOffice website. Can't
quite remember that far back tbh. When i use a package-manager to isntall
the default one in the repos i can select all sorts of components and
2015-02-16 11:57 GMT+01:00 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com:
Hi :)
On Ubuntu i have to install Base separately. I'm not sure what happened
when i installed the official one from the LibreOffice website. Can't
quite remember that far back tbh. When i use a package-manager to isntall
the
Hello, thanks for the help.
I have Java 8 installed and it's being detected in Tools-Options as you
indicated.
I tried launching it directly (not via the startup screen) and there doesn't
appear to be any executable for it - only scalc.exe and swriter.exe
It seems that Base, Impress, Draw and
2015-02-15 2:21 GMT+01:00 pranzar davek...@gmail.com:
Hello, thanks for the help.
I have Java 8 installed and it's being detected in Tools-Options as you
indicated.
I tried launching it directly (not via the startup screen) and there
doesn't
appear to be any executable for it - only
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