Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/10/18 11:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/10/2018 11:30 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Redshift does give me that prompt, them I get a message that there was a permission issue with geoclue2 What is the exact error message and what are the permissions for geoclue2? It is acting weird a

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/10/18 11:02 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/10/2018 10:50 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: There doesn't seem to be a way to get them on separate lines.  I don't remember that being in the original request.  The 24 hour option seems to be broken, but you can do something like this: xclock -d -strftime "

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/10/2018 11:30 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Redshift does give me that prompt, them I get a message that there was a permission issue with geoclue2 What is the exact error message and what are the permissions for geoclue2? ___ users mailing

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/10/2018 10:50 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: There doesn't seem to be a way to get them on separate lines.  I don't remember that being in the original request.  The 24 hour option seems to be broken, but you can do something like this: xclock -d -strftime "%H:%M:%S %Y-%m-%d" -update 1 I know t

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/10/18 10:57 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/10/18 10:36 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Redshift does this and bombs with a message that geoclue does not have permission. (geoclue:23024): Geoclue-CRITICAL **: 22:34:01.971: Failed to acquire name 'org.freedesktop.GeoClue2' on system bus or

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/10/18 10:36 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Redshift does this and bombs with a message that geoclue does not have permission. (geoclue:23024): Geoclue-CRITICAL **: 22:34:01.971: Failed to acquire name 'org.freedesktop.GeoClue2' on system bus or lost it. The above with or with geoclue

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/10/18 10:00 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/10/18 7:32 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: systemctl start geoclue Anything special I have to do to it to allow standard users to start it? You don't. $ ls -al /usr/lib/systemd/system/geoclue.service -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 468 Oct 14 11

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/10/18 9:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/11/18 1:08 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/10/18 9:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/11/18 12:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: That is a good workaround.  Or just wait for the Xfce Policy Kit to prompt. But they should be able to be starte

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/10/18 7:32 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:     systemctl start geoclue Anything special I have to do to it to allow standard users to start it? You don't. $ ls -al /usr/lib/systemd/system/geoclue.service -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 468 Oct 14 11:59 /usr/lib/systemd/system/geoclue.servi

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/11/18 1:08 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 11/10/18 9:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 11/11/18 12:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >>> That is a good workaround.  Or just wait for the Xfce Policy Kit to prompt. >>> >>> But they should be able to be started under certain conditions >

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/10/18 7:36 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/9/18 10:16 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/9/18 7:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I need a data and time clock for my desktop.  Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. Time to go old school.  Install xorg-x11-apps and run

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/10/18 9:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/11/18 12:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: That is a good workaround.  Or just wait for the Xfce Policy Kit to prompt. But they should be able to be started under certain conditions by regular users  Saned for instance. I've not used that servic

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/11/18 12:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > That is a good workaround.  Or just wait for the Xfce Policy Kit to prompt. > > But they should be able to be started under certain conditions > by regular users  Saned for instance. I've not used that service.  But, 2 things I don't know

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Sunday, November 11, 2018 9:02 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> systemctl start geoclue >> >> Anything special I have to do to it to allow standard >> users to start it? >> >> $ ls -al /usr/lib/systemd/system/geoclue.service >> -rw-r--

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-10 Thread finn via users
Add that User to sudo group and then use `sudo systemctl start geoclue` because normal users can't modify system configuration. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, November 11, 2018 9:02 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > systemctl start geoclue > > Anything special I have

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/10/18 3:19 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: xclock -d -update 1 & Tried that. It give me a one live date and time. I could not figure out how to get the date and time on separate lines. Also the -24 switch did not work ___ users mailing list -- users@

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/9/18 10:16 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/9/18 7:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I need a data and time clock for my desktop.  Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. Time to go old school.  Install xorg-x11-apps and run xclock! (Use the "-d" option.) Tried that. It g

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/10/18 12:21 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: ToddAndMargo via users writes: On 11/9/18 9:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/09/2018 08:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop.  Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T You might try

How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, systemctl start geoclue Anything special I have to do to it to allow standard users to start it? $ ls -al /usr/lib/systemd/system/geoclue.service -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 468 Oct 14 11:59 /usr/lib/systemd/system/geoclue.service Many thanks, -T --

Re: OT: bash parameter substitutions

2018-11-10 Thread Mike Wright
On 11/5/18 12:54 AM, Tom H wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 7:51 AM Mike Wright wrote: There is such a thing as too terse. Can somebody explain what this cryptic snippet means? | | parameter | parameter | parameter| | | Set and Not Null | Set B

Re: off topic -- email hosting for biz

2018-11-10 Thread Germano Massullo
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Re: Plymouth/Graphical Startup Fails on F29

2018-11-10 Thread Tim Evans
On 11/10/18 3:12 PM, John Pilkington wrote: I don't have f29 experience, but if you have previously used a proprietary mVidia driver and want to use nouveau, I suggest reinstalling nouveau and trying again. Or install xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-410.66-1.fc29 from rpmfusion-nonfree, or similar. It

Re: Abrt deletes crashes from previous sessions – is this expected?

2018-11-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/10/18 3:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/10/2018 04:25 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: I don't think it's expected.  They stay around forever for me.  Maybe it's a disk space issue? I haven't had anything to  do with abrt in some time now, but it might be a configuration issue.  That is, are you abl

Re: Abrt deletes crashes from previous sessions – is this expected?

2018-11-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/10/2018 04:25 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/10/18 2:26 PM,  rugk wrote: I noticed that I only ever see one or two crashes in the abrt GUI. I strongly think it just deletes the crashes not only after bug creation, but also when I logout and login again. (That's maybe also why I almost never

Re: Authenticate not working?

2018-11-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/10/18 2:30 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: Brand new fedora 29 install. Brand new user created. Logged in to gnome3 session as that user. Searched for "users" in the app finder. Clicked on the users app it found. It pops up a dialog asking me to authenticate. I type in root password, it says it is n

Re: Cleaning up /etc/yum.repos.d

2018-11-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/10/18 2:22 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: According to the above link: Beginning with Fedora 29, all installations of Fedora will have modules available for installation and update. This will be done by merging the fedora-repos-modular sub-package back into the fedora- repo

Re: Abrt deletes crashes from previous sessions – is this expected?

2018-11-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/10/18 2:26 PM, rugk wrote: I noticed that I only ever see one or two crashes in the abrt GUI. I strongly think it just deletes the crashes not only after bug creation, but also when I logout and login again. (That's maybe also why I almost never see crashes in the "System" category.) Is

Authenticate not working?

2018-11-10 Thread Tom Horsley
Brand new fedora 29 install. Brand new user created. Logged in to gnome3 session as that user. Searched for "users" in the app finder. Clicked on the users app it found. It pops up a dialog asking me to authenticate. I type in root password, it says it is no good. I try it 3 or 4 more times, still

Re: Cleaning up /etc/yum.repos.d

2018-11-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-11-10 at 13:59 +, John Pilkington wrote: > On 10/11/18 12:42, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 11/10/18 8:32 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > My repos directory has accumulated a lot of cruft over the years, > > > things like unused COPR repos etc., so I wanted to clean it out. I have

Abrt deletes crashes from previous sessions – is this expected?

2018-11-10 Thread rugk
I noticed that I only ever see one or two crashes in the abrt GUI. I strongly think it just deletes the crashes not only after bug creation, but also when I logout and login again. (That's maybe also why I almost never see crashes in the "System" category.) Is this actually expected or is this a

Re: Cleaning up /etc/yum.repos.d

2018-11-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-11-10 at 07:47 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > My repos directory has accumulated a lot of cruft over the years, > > things like unused COPR repos etc., so I wanted to clean it out. I have > > a couple of questions: > > > > Do I need both fedora-* and fedo

Re: Cleaning up /etc/yum.repos.d

2018-11-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-11-10 at 22:16 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/10/18 9:38 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sat, 2018-11-10 at 20:42 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > On 11/10/18 8:32 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > My repos directory has accumulated a lot of cruft over the years, > > > > thi

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/10/18 12:18 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: ToddAndMargo via users writes: On 11/7/18 4:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And yet another one: Libre Office pulses at me https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 What exactly do you mean by "pulsing"? A very brief check doesn't app

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-10 Thread Doug
On 11/10/2018 03:21 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: ToddAndMargo via users writes: On 11/9/18 9:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/09/2018 08:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop. Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T You might

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-10 Thread Sam Varshavchik
ToddAndMargo via users writes: On 11/9/18 9:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/09/2018 08:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop.  Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T You might try TzClock.  I've found it satisfactory for seve

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-10 Thread Sam Varshavchik
ToddAndMargo via users writes: On 11/7/18 4:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And yet another one: Libre Office pulses at me https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 What exactly do you mean by "pulsing"? A very brief check doesn't appear to result in anything unusual. I started

Re: Plymouth/Graphical Startup Fails on F29

2018-11-10 Thread John Pilkington
On 10/11/18 18:24, Tim Evans wrote: Plymouth startup fails on newly upgraded (F28->F29) system.  Last console message says something like "starting Plymouth login screen." Then nothing.  (F28 was running fine.) journalctl shows: Nov 10 12:49:29 osprey systemd[1]: Starting Show Plymouth Reboot

"Failed unmounting /var" on every shutdown

2018-11-10 Thread Richard Shaw
I've been seeing this for a long time but it hasn't seemed to cause any issues so I've left it alone. Per this link: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/378678/why-do-i-get-the-error-failed-unmounting-var-during-shutdown It has to do with having a separate /var (common) and journald still t

Plymouth/Graphical Startup Fails on F29

2018-11-10 Thread Tim Evans
Plymouth startup fails on newly upgraded (F28->F29) system. Last console message says something like "starting Plymouth login screen." Then nothing. (F28 was running fine.) journalctl shows: Nov 10 12:49:29 osprey systemd[1]: Starting Show Plymouth Reboot Screen... Nov 10 12:49:29 osprey sys

heap now randomized in f29?

2018-11-10 Thread Tom Horsley
Did fedora 29 just start building kernels with heap address randomization turned on by default? I don't remember seeing random heap addresses in previous versions of fedora. Plays hob with debugging when you try to recreate problems from one run to the next and objects move around in the heap so y

Re: Cleaning up /etc/yum.repos.d

2018-11-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/10/18 9:38 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2018-11-10 at 20:42 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 11/10/18 8:32 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> My repos directory has accumulated a lot of cruft over the years, >>> things like unused COPR repos etc., so I wanted to clean it out. I have

Re: Cleaning up /etc/yum.repos.d

2018-11-10 Thread John Pilkington
On 10/11/18 12:42, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/10/18 8:32 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: My repos directory has accumulated a lot of cruft over the years, things like unused COPR repos etc., so I wanted to clean it out. I have a couple of questions: Do I need both fedora-* and fedora-*-modular repo

Re: Cleaning up /etc/yum.repos.d

2018-11-10 Thread Rex Dieter
Rex Dieter wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> How do I list installed packages from a specific repo? > > This may get you step in the right direction: > > rpm -q -f /etc/yum.repos.d/*.repo > > will tell you which packages own each .repo file Just occurred to me I misread your question, so

Re: Cleaning up /etc/yum.repos.d

2018-11-10 Thread Rex Dieter
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > My repos directory has accumulated a lot of cruft over the years, > things like unused COPR repos etc., so I wanted to clean it out. I have > a couple of questions: > > Do I need both fedora-* and fedora-*-modular repos? Depends on your definition of "need". On f29+

Re: Cleaning up /etc/yum.repos.d

2018-11-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2018-11-10 at 20:42 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/10/18 8:32 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > My repos directory has accumulated a lot of cruft over the years, > > things like unused COPR repos etc., so I wanted to clean it out. I have > > a couple of questions: > > > > Do I need both

Re: Cleaning up /etc/yum.repos.d

2018-11-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/10/18 8:32 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Do I need both fedora-* and fedora-*-modular repos? Oh, forgot to answer that dnf list available | grep fedora-modular Anything interest you? -- Fedora Users - The place to go to beat OT dead horses :-) :-) _

Re: Cleaning up /etc/yum.repos.d

2018-11-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/10/18 8:32 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > My repos directory has accumulated a lot of cruft over the years, > things like unused COPR repos etc., so I wanted to clean it out. I have > a couple of questions: > > Do I need both fedora-* and fedora-*-modular repos? > > How do I list installed

Cleaning up /etc/yum.repos.d

2018-11-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
My repos directory has accumulated a lot of cruft over the years, things like unused COPR repos etc., so I wanted to clean it out. I have a couple of questions: Do I need both fedora-* and fedora-*-modular repos? How do I list installed packages from a specific repo? poc

Re: App similar Winhex for Fedora

2018-11-10 Thread Joerg Lechner via users
Hi, filed Bug 1648532 according to this thread. Kind regards -Ursprüngliche Mitteilung- Von: Joerg Lechner via users An: users Cc: Joerg Lechner Verschickt: Fr, 9. Nov. 2018 18:20 Betreff: Re: App similar Winhex for Fedora Thank You Fred, have installed hexdump and study now

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-10 Thread Terry Polzin
xclock -d -update 1 & On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 2:27 AM Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > > On 11/09/2018 09:39 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > On 11/9/18 9:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > >> On 11/09/2018 08:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > >>> Hi All, > >>> > >>> I need a data and time clock for